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ENTEN: “John, that it began, but apparently, it is 44 days. You crack the numbers, you’ve run the numbers. All right, let’s take a look here. Think Trump did something illegal in the New York hush money case. I’ve been interested in whether or not these numbers will change at all during the course of this trial? Simply put, John, they have not. Pre-opening statements think Trump did something illegal, 46 percent. After the direct examination of Michael Cohen by the prosecution, look at where we are now, 46 percent. The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious in fact, dropped from 40 percent to a little bit more than and 35 percent during the course of this trial. So, yes, perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors, but when it comes to the larger American public, there has been no change, at least so far — John.” BERMAN: “Any possible reasons why?” ENTEN: “Yes, I think the question is, what is exactly cooking here? Why hasn’t there been much of a change? Well, folks like you and me, real news junkie might be paying really close attention to what is going on. The fact that most Americans don’t really care that much, so closely following news about economy inflation, that’s number one. It is 65 percent. Look at immigration, 52 percent; election legitimacy, 49 percent; abortion, 47 percent — all the way down on this list of issues tested by the Ipsos Knowledge Panel is Trump’s court cases at 42 percent. Significantly less than economy and inflation. The fact is, John, when we are looking at these numbers, what we see is Americans minds aren’t changing and a big reason why Americans minds aren’t changing is at this particular point, John, they are tuned out of the conversation.”

FAUKLNER: “Well, let me ask you about the three choices. And — and one thing in particular that this judge said that these jurors could do. He just delivered what is being called really the pinnacle of all of this, he said that there is no need to agree on what has occurred. They can disagree on what the crime was among the three choices. Thus, this means that they could split 4-4-4 and the judge would still treat them unanimously. What does that mean?” McCarthy: “Well, it’s really outrageous, because in a normal criminal case every statutory crime has what we call elements of the offense. Like in a bank robbery case, it’s you know, you have to rob, it’s got to be a financial institution, you have to show intent. Those are the things the jury has to agree on unanimously that were — that they were proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Here, what we’re doing is taking the element that actually makes this a felony — because remember, falsification of records is normally a misdemeanor in New York — what makes it a felony is that you’re concealing or committing another crime. And here the judge is telling them, they don’t have to agree about what the other crime is, under circumstances where that not only is what makes this a felony, what makes it a four-year potential prison penalty rather than a year or less, but it’s also what gets us into the courtroom. Because if this had been a misdemeanor, the — the time to bring this case would have lapsed in 2019. So the only reason they’re still able to bring this case is because it’s a felony, allegedly, and yet now the judge is saying, you know, you don’t have to agree on what the felony is.”

HAINES: “Well, Dr. Biden, the first presidential debate is less than a month away. And we’ve debated at this table, there have been people that have thought President Biden shouldn’t even debate President Trump just due to the fact that he — Donald Trump will gaslight. He overtalks.” Biden: “Yeah.” HAINES: “There are no guardrails. So —“ BEHAR: “He stokes.” HAINES: “Yeah. Well, I happen to believe it’s really important more than ever to have a debate with guardrails. What is the strategy that the president has going into this? Any tips you’d have for a debate that we could pull off where we could actually hear our candidates?” Biden: “You know, they build that in where they’re going to turn off those mics so that somebody can’t ramble or scream at somebody — you know, not that my husband would be the one doing that. And so that’s already been negotiated. And you know, I think — but I think the American people deserve a debate, because you need to see your choices. You need to see Trump and you need to see the president, and you need to see the differences. And my husband’s — and you’re going to see how smart he is, and the experience he has. And then you’ll see somebody who like you’re saying, I’m going to use Joy’s words can put a sentence together —“ BEHAR: “Right.” Biden: “— and everything is beautiful, and it’s wonderful.” BEHAR: “Tremendous.” HOSTIN: “Big league.” [crosstalk] Biden: “Yeah. Yeah. Tremendous.” BEHAR: “Tremendous.” Biden: “So, I think you deserve. The American people deserve to see the — the two men who are running for this office, because your choice is going to be clear.” HOSTIN: “Yeah.”

HUNT: “Do you think that it’s smart for the Biden campaign to be outside the courthouse talking politics. The Trump campaign criticism is that shows that the trial is political. On the flip side, I’m curious, do you think that the Biden campaign should be even more aggressive than that they’ve been considering the state of the polls?” COONS: “Well, I haven’t thought about this much, Kasie, but I’ll say this. For the last three weeks, literally 24/7 it’s been the only thing that’s been covered on this network. So I appreciate the chance to talk about Taiwan. I appreciate the chance to talk about other foreign policy concerns, the war in Gaza. But I suspect Robert De Niro, who’s a New Yorker, went to the trial, in part because there’s so much press there. If you look at the image you’ve got up on the TV right now, there are more microphones there than there are in the entire island nation of Taiwan. So I suspect he’s there because you’re there.”

Morgan: “What do you think of Trump?” QUAID: “I myself, I think — I think I’m gonna vote for him.” Morgan: “Really?” QUAID: “Yeah, in the next election. Yes, I am. I — “ Morgan: “Are you ready for the blowback that inevitably comes with Trump?” QUAID: “Well, I think this election — and everybody’s gonna — I think you have to take a side or whatever, but it’s — it just seems to — it makes sense. I was ready not to vote for Trump until what I saw is more than politics. I see a weaponization of our justice system and a challenge to our Constitution, us as Americans, I don’t think we’re gonna have. And Trump is the most investigated person, probably in the history of the world, and they haven’t been able to really get him on anything.” Morgan: “And this whole Stormy Daniels thing to me is so kind of pathetic. I mean, whatever happens, as we sit here now, we’re going to find out in a few days whether he’s guilty or not guilty, I don’t think it matters.” QUAID: “It doesn’t.” Morgan: “If anything, if he’s found guilty, it’ll probably help him more.” QUAID: “Yeah, even the way you just said it made it seem like that trial, guilty or not guilty, is about Stormy Daniels.” Morgan: “Right.” QUAID: “Which it’s not.” Morgan: “No, it’s not.” QUAID: “In fact, what is the crime? I still can’t figure it out. Neither can they, because they haven’t said what it is. They took a misdemeanor that had run out of its — run out of its time and turned it into a felony and — but they won’t even say what that is.” Morgan: “Do you have to like Trump to vote for him? Do you like him personally?” QUAID: “Well, look, you know, I was — in the last — in the last campaign, in ‘16 and in ‘20, I found myself going, ‘Oh, please don’t do that. Please don’t say that.’ You know, these things will come out of his mouth and — but, as president, I — the only thing I liked about Trump was everything he did.” Morgan: “Right.” QUAID: “What he did with Korea, with ‘Rocket baby,’ the way he defeated ISIS in three weeks, you know, people don’t even remember it, it happened so fast. How he stood up for us overseas and — and China, the way he responded to China. He stands up to people and that’s what makes him a leader rather than what I — I kind of compare it to what was going on in Jimmy Carter’s administration when we were trying to be everybody’s friend and pal, and there’s some evil people and bad actors in this world. And so, you know, people might call him an assh*le, but he’s my assh*le.” Morgan: “Right. No, I get that.” QUAID: “Because he’s — one true thing about him is that I really feel that he is working for the American people. That’s what he’s all about. And I do believe that to be true and sincere.” Morgan: “And is Biden simply too old? Is that the biggest problem for him?” QUAID: “I — I don’t feel he is at the helm.” Morgan: “Right.” QUAID: “I don’t feel he’s there. And I don’t — I feel that he says things to get votes, not that he truly believes in them.”

GUTFELD: “Last word?” CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: “Yeah, let the record show I totally agree with Robert De Niro, I’m one of those people who suffer from Trump derangement syndrome. I think he’s a threat to democracy.” GUTFELD: “Really?” CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: “I think that he led an attempted coup of this country. You know, he said he wanted to suspend the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election. At the least, that’s just not a patriotic thing to say.” GUTFELD: “I don’t believe that.” CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: “He absolutely said that on Truth Social.” GUTFELD: “I will look that up. He wanted to suspend the Constitution?” CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: “He said, ‘We should suspend the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election.’ He said it on Truth Social, then said he didn’t say it. So, I — listen, I read Project 25, I’m one of those guys that’s like, I don’t know if he would necessarily leave. I hope he does. As you said, I hope he does.” TYRUS: “I think this happens more with our presidents than I think — because now we can see everything in print. Trump made everything so transparent, because he was on TV every day and everyone was watching the camera. I’m willing to bet — and again, I’m not justifying the bad behavior of January 6, but I’m willing to bet every president, when he got the note when he was out, they were calling everybody like, ‘Can we fix this? Are we sure?’ And I think just given the fact that Biden’s biggest claim to fame was he got to be Barack Obama’s VP and it was — I voted for Barack twice, I voted for Trump, it looks like it’s gonna be three times now, but the point is, is, like, it was the greatness of Barack that helped him over. Now that there’s no more Barack, this is all Biden’s presidency, it’s been embarrassing. So people are like, ‘Are we willing to go back to a poor sport who at least was getting our taxes right, or a wandering fool who is letting the worst part of the Democratic Party get their stuff passed — “ CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: “Neither! We deserve better. The American people deserve better from both parties.” GUTFELD: “I’m not running, though. All right, we have to move on.” CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: “There would be no women in your cabinet.” GUTFELD: “I’ll have you know, I have lots of women in my cabinet.”

O’KEEFE: “So, how does this not violate the red line that the president laid out?” KIRBY: “As I said, we don’t want to see a major ground operation. We haven’t seen that at this point.” O’KEEFE: “How many more charred corpses does he have to see before the president considers the change of policy?” KIRBY: “We don’t want to see a single more innocent life taken. And I kind of take a little offense at the question. No civilian casualties is the right number of civilian casualties. And this is not something that we’ve turned a blind eye to, nor has it been something we’ve ignored or neglected to raise with our Israeli counterparts, including, Ed, this weekend as a result of this particular strike. Now, they’re investigating it. So, let’s let them investigate it and see what they come up with.” O’KEEFE: “But the president doesn’t have like, a personal limit to this?” KIRBY: “The president has been very clear and very direct about what our expectations are for Israeli operations in Rafah, specifically, but in Gaza writ large. We don’t support, we won’t support a major ground operation in Rafah. And we’ve, again, been very consistent on that. And the president said that, should that occur, then it might make him have to make different decisions in terms of support. We haven’t seen that happen at this point.” O’KEEFE: “Why not have him come out and say that himself?” KIRBY: “The president has been speaking to leaders throughout the region on a regular basis. He has been addressing you guys in various fora. You’ve got plenty of opportunities to talk to the president, including, I might add, in a press conference last week.”

Morgan: “What do you think of Trump?” QUAID: “I myself, I think — I think I’m going to vote for him.” Morgan: “Really?” QUAID: “Yeah. In the next election. Yes, I am.” Morgan: “Are you ready for the blowback?” QUAID: “Well, yeah.” Morgan: “That inevitably comes with Trump?” QUAID: “Well, you know, I think this election, everybody’s going to — I think they’re going to take a side or whatever, but it’s — it just seems to me — it just makes sense. I was ready not to vote for Trump until what I saw is more than politics, I see a weaponization of our justice system and a challenge to our Constitution. This is America that I don’t think we’re going to have. And, you know, Trump is the most investigated person probably in the history of the world. And they haven’t been able to really get him on anything.” Morgan: “And this whole Stormy Daniels thing to me is so kind of pathetic. I mean, whatever happens as we sit here now, we’re going to find out in a few days whether he’s guilty or not guilty, I don’t think it matters.” QUAID: “It doesn’t.” Morgan: “In fact, if anything, if he’s found guilty, it would help him more.” QUAID: “Even the way you just said it made it seem like that trial, guilty or not guilty, is about Stormy Daniels.” Morgan: “Right.” QUAID: “Which it’s not.” Morgan: “No, it’s not.” QUAID: “And in fact, what is the crime? I still can’t figure it out.” Morgan: “Well, they —“ QUAID: “Neither can they because they haven’t — (crosstalk) — a misdemeanor that had run out of its — run out of its time and, you know, turn it somehow, trying to turn it into a felony and — but they won’t even say what that is.” Morgan: “Do you — do you have to like Trump to vote for him?” QUAID: “No.” Morgan: “Do you like — do you like him personally?” QUAID: “Well, look, you know, I was — in the last campaign in ‘16 and, you know, and in ‘20, I found myself going, oh, please don’t do that, please don’t say that. You know, it’s like these things have come out of his mouth. But as president, I — the only thing I liked about Trump was everything he did.” Morgan: “Right.” QUAID: “You know, what he did with Korea, with rocket baby, the way he defeated ISIS in three weeks. You know, people don’t even remember, it happened so fast. What he — how he stood up for us overseas and — China and the way he responded to China, he stands up to people and he’s — that’s what makes him a leader rather than — what I, I kind of compare it to what was going on in Jimmy Carter’s administration where we were trying to be everybody’s friend and pal. And there’s some evil people and bad actors in this world. And so, you know, it might, people might call him an a**hole, but he’s my a**hole.” Morgan: “Right. No, I get it.” QUAID: “Because he’s — I’ll tell you one true thing about him is that I really feel that he is working for the American people, that’s what he’s all about, and I do believe that to be true and sincere.”

HURT: “— and how, you know, if a New York — if a New Yorker can’t fix this, nobody can.” PIRRO: “All right, Charlie and Ned, hold on. I want to bring in Laura Ingraham, host of The Ingraham Angle. She joins me now on the phone. Hello, Laura. I hear you’re at an airport or on a plane somewhere.” Ingraham: “Oh, yeah. Eight hours — friendly skies of the United Airlines. It wasn’t so friendly today, but that’s alright. Everybody was nice and patient. I’m so sorry not to be on tonight, there was just literally no way I could get to a studio in time given what happened on the airline with the weather and mechanical problems, but I followed everything that was happening today and continues to happen in Manhattan, Judge. And I know you have the bird’s eye view. What is going on in our country with the weaponization of the judicial system topped off with the spectacle of complete confirmation of what we, you and I have been saying all along, that this was political from the outset. Obviously, I heard you talking about De Niro. But we know this, but they’re so stupid. They just confirmed it for everybody today and then it’ll be confirmed again when Joe Biden speaks after the verdict is in. So we know this. We know this.”

DOOCY: “Are you guys here at the White House in full-blown freak out mode?” Jean-Pierre: “What are you talking about? What are you talking about?” DOOCY: “There’s a Politico story —“ Jean-Pierre: “Peter?” DOOCY: “It sounds like Democrats outside — the quote is: ‘Biden’s stubbornly, stubbornly poor polling and the stakes of the election are creating the freak out.” Jean-Pierre: “So again, I’m really mindful. I’m not going to comment on 2024 election. I will say this, the president has never forgotten where he comes — where he came from, who he is. He understands what the American people are going through as they’re sitting around the kitchen table. You talk — you hear the president talk about his time growing up where he watched his family having to sit around the kitchen table making incredibly difficult decision. And the president has always said he’s going to fight for communities that have been forgotten. And you see that in the policies, economic policies that he’s put forward. He’s going to continue to fight for the middle class. He’s going to continue to fight in every way that he can. You heard me at the beginning talk about junk fees, incredibly important. And he’s going to continue to fight and to make sure, you know, that corporation greed doesn’t continue to take hold. He is — that is something that he’s been very clear about while Republicans are doing the opposite. They put out a policy where they want to give a big tax break to the wealthiest among us, billionaires and corporations. That’s not what the president wants to do.”

Smith: “Leo, let me give you this update from Jonathan Turley at the courthouse right now, saying that the prosecution — Steinglass — just dismissed Cohen’s admitted to grand larceny and is justifying Cohen selling merchandise and making money off Trump. You can’t blame him, he says, because he has only this connection to sell. He’s portraying Cohen, Jonathan Turley writes, like he’s selling goods on the street to support his struggling family in their multimillion-dollar Trump condo. His struggles amounts to earning millions in attacking Trump. Leo?” TERRELL: “Sandra, he — he’s portraying Michael Cohen as a criminal Robin Hood. But let me be very clear, all our legal experts, we have to address one key issue. There are two lawyers on that jury, Sandra, and they’re going to neutralize this unfairness exhibited by the judge and this far-range discretion by the prosecution. Those two lawyers, not only have an ethical obligation to evaluate the facts, but they have an ethical obligation to make sure fairness takes place. And I’m telling you, unlike any other trial, you have two lawyers in there, and those two lawyers, if they do the right thing, they’ll see through this judge, they’ll see through the politics and they’ll do the right thing. Those two lawyers are the key to an acquittal or a hung jury.”

ANCHOR: “Camilo Montoya-Galvez spoke to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, who responded to the accusations of the administration encouraging migrants to come to the U.S..” [Clip starts] MAYORKAS: “That is — that is false. If we take a look at migration, not just at our southern border but in context, the level of migration throughout the hemisphere is unprecedented and throughout the world, it’s the greatest level of displacement of migration since World War II. I think there are about 73 million displaced people in the world. The reasons why people leave their countries of origin are those with which we are quite familiar.” [Clip ends]

DE NIRO: “Yesterday was Memorial Day. It is a good time to reflect on how Americans fought and died so that we may enjoy the freedoms guaranteed to us by a democratic government, a government that, as President Lincoln said, of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. Under Trump, this kind of government will perish from the earth. I don’t mean to scare you — no, no, wait, maybe I do mean to scare you. If Trump returns to the White House, you can kiss these freedoms goodbye that we all take for granted. And elections? Forget about it. That’s over, that’s done. If he gets in, I can tell you right now, he will never leave. He will never leave. You know that. He will never leave. What does that mean? Is that the country we want to live in? Do we want him running this country and saying, ‘I’m not leaving, I’m dictator for life?’ I hope this new ad campaign reaches outside the bubble to remind supporters of what a danger he is to our lives. This is not a threat, this is a reality. That’s why I have joined the Biden/Harris campaign, because the only way to preserve our freedoms and hold on to our humanity is to vote for Joe Biden for president. Really. We don’t have a choice. On January 6th, while Republican lawmakers despicably tried to keep the loser Trump — the loser Trump — in the White House, and Trump inspired insurrectionists storm the Capitol, brave men and women from law enforcement put their lives on the line to defend this country, our democracy. They are the true heroes. These guys are the true heroes. They stood and put their lives on the line for these lowlifes, for Trump.”

BOLDUAN: “Randy, what Michael’s getting at is the — is the burden of proof is an important one to remind everyone. It’s on the prosecution, right? They need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed that — that Donald Trump broke the law. And you think — after listening to all of this you think they fell short? How?” ZELIN: “They fell way short because let’s start with reasonable doubt. What is reasonable doubt? And it’s not simply a doubt based upon reason. Any time a human being needs to make an important decision in life, if you have enough information — for example, doctor says you need open heart surgery. Doc, go ahead and schedule. I don’t have a reasonable doubt. Conversely, if I say I appreciate it, but I need a second opinion. I need more information. That is having a reasonable doubt. There is reasonable doubt all over this case. Where is Keith Schiller? Where is Allen Weisselberg? How did Michael Cohen get away with stealing $30,000? Hold a pity party for him. Made $4 million on this. Thought he’d be chief of staff. He’s a fixer. If the plumber comes to my house to fix my leak, I could be home. That doesn’t mean I know how he’s doing it and what it’s taking to be fixed. Stormy Daniels — let’s hold a pity party for her. Why do we need to know whether or not the former president wore a condom or not? It’s simply about did the former president know that books — his records — false entries for legal fees. Michael Cohen was his lawyer. Did he intend to cover up the election or to protect his family? It’s everywhere.” BOLDUAN: “When Randy gets to whisper tones, I start getting concerned.”

DE NIRO: “Thank you. I mean, this is really — even these people over here are kind of — it’s kind of crazy. It’s really crazy. This thing, Donald Trump has created this. He should be telling them not to do this, but he is just — he wants to — he wants to sow total chaos, which he is succeeding in some areas and places to do. Anyway, beside all that, this is my neighborhood, Downtown New York City. I grew up here and feel at home in these streets. I feel comfortable. The Twin Towers fell just over here, just over there. This part of the city was like a ghost town, but we vowed we would not allow terrorists to change our way of life. And we started the Tribeca Festival to bring people back. I love this city. I love this city. I don’t want to destroy it. Donald Trump wants to destroy not only the city, but the country, and eventually he could destroy the world. But we vowed we would not allow terrorists — I owe this city a lot. That’s why it is so weird that Donald Trump is just across the street, because he doesn’t belong in my city. I don’t know where he belongs, but he certainly doesn’t belong here. We New Yorkers used to tolerate him when he was just another grubby real estate hustler masquerading as a big shot, a two-bit player lying his way into the tabloids, pretending to be a spokesman, a spokesperson for himself. He was calling it as himself for himself to fool the press and to inflate his net worth. A clown. But this city is pretty accommodating. We make room for clowns. We have them all over the city, people who do crazy things in the street. We tolerate it and it’s part of the culture. But not a person like Trump who will eventually run the country. That does not work and we all know that. Anyway, we make room for clowns. To each his own. But no one takes him or took him seriously. They take him seriously now, of course.”

HANDLER: “As you may have heard, there’s a man by the name of Harrison Butker, who’s talking more than I typically like for a male. He’s a kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs, and I learned that kickers rarely get tackled. So based on his misogynistic rant during a recent commencement address, I’m guessing this Bible thumper thumped himself a little too hard with his Bible and gave himself CTE.” [Clip starts] BUTKER: “Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. (...) And embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker.” [Clip ends] HANDLER : “First of all, Harrison, you’re a kicker, so so you have one important part of your body and it’s not your f**king brain.” [Clip starts] BUTKET: “I can tell you that my beautiful wife, Isabelle, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and a mother. (...) Isabelle’s dream of having a career might not have come true, but if you ask her today if she has any regrets on her decision, she would laugh out loud, without hesitation, and say, ‘Heck no.’” [Clip ends] HANDLER: “Isabelle, please blink twice if you need us to call for help. But the real kicker is that Harrison Butker’s mother is a renowned physicist, who has a degree in chemistry and a masters in medical physics. So who paid for all those youth athletic team fees and uniform fees and equipment fees when Harrison was a kid so he could grow up to have a career making millions of dollars for f**king kicking things? My guess is a working woman. Harrison, this is the first time I’ve heard about you and hopefully the last. After this I’m going to go ahead and do what your fellow teammate does and just pretend like you don’t exist.” [Clip starts] MAHOMES: “I don’t talk to Harrison all year long, man. I just let him do his thing. We sit right beside each other in team meetings and I don’t say one word to him.”

RUSH TRANSCRIPT: This is what I struggle with, Eddie. It’s do you try to reason with those people? Do you try to make some type of understanding of who they are when they’re built inherently on a hatred of others, of people who look like you and me, the black and brown people, because white America is what Trump tries to rally the people behind. So how do I as an individual if I’m looking to myself to lead, to not be lazy or not to be complacent, because it is easy to follow, as you say, what does it take for me to be able to have the mettle to feel I can make a difference in November? >> Right, so first of all, what Trump is appealing to is what Frederick Douglass talked about in 1852. He said there’s a horrible reptile in the bosom of the nation and that was slavery. It was a certain set of assumptions not simply about black people, but about the superiority of white people to own people. He said we must rip that reptile from our hearts. It’s the central contradiction. It’s the contradiction that eats at the entrails of the country, and Donald Trump is appealing to those grievances, those hatreds, those old ghosts, as President Biden says, the old ghosts that have the nation by the throat. So >> He says, we have to make a distinction between those people we must persuade and those people we must defeat. We often times spend a lot of energy trying to persuade people who really don’t accord standing. They are not interested in being persuaded. What you and I have to do is understand the problems right in front of us, not to think about this in some abstract way. I use this phrase over and over in the book. Let’s engage in our politics close to the ground. Let’s stop looking to D.C. Let’s look right where we are in the local communities around education and jobs and a decent wage and around basic municipal issues that face-off that can then be networked across the country. The problem is often right in front of our noses. Let’s not pan out too far. When we bring it close to the ground, that is when we can get about the hard work. It is not too much and we all have the courage and capacity and capability to do that work. >> Your book is powerful and the personal anecdotes are one that, for me, resonate the

PATEL: “And that’s — that’s what they wanted, because the judge in this case and the prosecutors know, they’ll never publicly admit, if they jail Donald Trump, he’s going to win overnight. If they — if they — if Donald Trump is found guilty, which, because it’s a rigged system, there’s a likelihood that he might, they are going to have to allow Donald Trump to stay out on bond while he appeals this bogus trial. Otherwise, this country’s going to go nuts.”

PSAKI: “I think for the Biden campaign, Molly, as you know, they’re thinking about the overall electorate and obviously how to get more votes. That’s how you win campaigns. But there is this risk, which I think they’re fully aware of, that if he does not say something that the kind of base of the party feels is strong enough when this case is resolved, that people will feel upset, disappointed, even more complacent. I mean, how do you strike that balance if you’re them?” Jong-Fast: “Well, look, I think that Biden has done well with he is a protector of institutions. Like, important institutions. Like democracy. Right? He should run as that, the keeper of democracy. It’s a flawed system but it works. And I would say, look, I still think if you look at these polls — I just wrote a long thing on the polls. And they really do — they take a lot of these voters that — Trump wins a lot of these voters that aren’t traditional voters. They’re sort of may show up. They’re the voters that showed up in 2016, but they don’t show up for other elections. So I actually think that that group of voters may actually be moved. They may be slightly less likely to come out. I’m not talking about the Trump base. I’m talking about the people, the number that Biden needs to win in swing states. And some of those people are just not traditional voters. And so, it’s not clear to me what will make a difference, but I think that Biden world certainly has an opportunity here to take back the narrative and to sort of change where things are going.”

Netanyahu: “Despite our best effort not to harm those not involved, unfortunately, a tragic mistake happened last night. We are investigating the case.”

ALCINDOR: “Fernand, I mean, Lanhee just said this could be all baked, but I wonder if you think, could there be an impact if he ends up running this election, running for president as a convicted felon here?” AMANDI: “Well, Yamiche, if you look at it from a polling perspective, that is what 20 percent of folks who are leaning towards Trump or voting for Trump suggests in study after study, that if he weren’t convicted felon, that that would be enough, that would be a red line that, if crossed, would cause them to reconsider if not outright withdraw their support for Trump. And we’re not going to know the answer to that question, Yamiche, until if and when he is convicted and then when the public polls start to come in within days or weeks of that event. But I think if you’re looking at this from the perspective of the Biden campaign and the DNC, the only conviction that they really are looking for is the conviction on November 5th when and if the voters reject Donald Trump’s run for the presidency because it could very well be that this trial either results in a non-conviction or some sort of Trump making the case that he was the victim of a weaponized judge and judicial system, which is what has been his unhinged posts over and over again. So I think the question really becomes will the voters react numerically, will we see that reflected in the polls, and that will lead up, of course, to the debate on June 27th. And if not, what does the Trump campaign do in response if they do not get convicted? Do they plant that flag and say, see, it was all about going after him and rigging the justice system against him?”

Tur: “I also think it’s important to question what kind of person, what kind of promises do they make to themselves or to Donald Trump, wants to be his running mate after the last guy, the last vice president was run out of town to chants of ‘Hang Mike Pence,’ chants that Donald Trump seemed to be endorse. Who wants to be that person this time around, and what might they be promising themselves or be willing to do to make it so that those chants don’t follow them. One other question. I know you don’t want Donald Trump to win. Do you see Joe Biden beating him as of today?” HORN: “I see there’s absolutely a clear and strong path for Joe Biden to beat Donald Trump in the fall. And we’re right at that turning point right now, too, Katy. It’s Memorial Day weekend, going into the summer, approaching the conventions. I have no doubt that the Biden campaign has a plan to start ramping things up, regardless of how the trial goes this week and next week, regardless of some of these weird, crazy Trumpian things.”

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LEMIRE: “So let’s talk about — give us a quick sense of the defense. And then tell us about the — the jury instruction process. For those of us who aren’t in your line of work, who who are not in a courtroom day-in. Day-out, what does that — what does that look like?” COLEY: “Well, starting with the defense, I think their — their strategy could really be summed up in four words, ‘Don’t believe Michael Cohen.’ And what we saw in four days of somewhat meandering testimony, cross examination towards the end of this trial, we saw them take a couple hits at Michael Cohen’s credibility. We now know, for example, that in addition to being a convicted felon, and a liar, we know that Michael Cohen, by his own admission is a thief. So I expect to see defense attorneys returned to those thematics. I think what I would worry about if I’m on the prosecution case, and I say this tongue in cheek, because I ran communications at arguably the largest law firm in the world, the U.S. Justice Department, I do worry that there are lawyers on this jury, and not one but two lawyers. And by my own experience, lawyers can sometimes be overly analytical, they can be hyper technical, and I do worry that the non lawyers on this jury may rely on the lawyers who, quite frankly, don’t have expertise in this area of law.” LEMIRE: “All right. MSNBC Justice and Legal Affairs Analyst Anthony Coley, thank you.”

RAJU: “Maybe they’ll help Trump.” MURRAY: “I mean, he has succeeded. Look, I think that it’s very likely this is the only trial that we are going to get before Election Day. And this case is not a slam dunk, which means that Donald Trump may very well not be convicted. Acquitted is the worst-case scenario for Democrats, because then its the only trial you have and Donald Trump gets to go out there and say, ‘Joe Biden’s prosecutors,’ which, again, not true, ‘came after me, his Department of Justice came after me, and they still didn’t convict me. I’m still innocent.’ I also think you could end up somewhere in this sort of muddy middle where you end up with a hung jury, a jury that cannot reach a verdict. And then this truly does just get kicked to the voters to decide. Look, we’re not going to have any kind of convictions here or nothing else could potentially go to trial. It’s up to you to decide if this is someone that you want to live with in the White House.” RAJU: “And how does Biden handle the ultimate outcome? Politico had some reporting about this just a couple of days ago, saying that Biden attends to address this if there is a verdict, according to people that they spoke to. If the jury convicts Trump, Biden’s team will argue the results show Trump is ill-suited for office and that the extremes that he would go to try to win again, they also say that they would prepare for a barrage of attacks from the GOP if he is acquitted. What are you hearing from your sources about how he plans to address this?” PARKER: “So what I hear, that — that lines up, from what I’m hearing from my sources as well.”