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Law Firms and Speech, Trump in Michigan & New York's Online Hate Speech Law
Good morning, #LALiens. It's Hump Day, as they say. But here on Law and Legitimacy it is yet another opportunity to aspire, to think, to speak with purpose, and to foster community with those who want some or all of the same for themselves. Welcome back.
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› The American Muslim Bar Association, the National Association of Muslim Lawyers, and regional bar associations wrote in a November 1, 2023, open letter that a number of top US law firms are contributing to an environment of "Islamophobia and anti-Arab sentiment."
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› Michigan Court of Claims Judge James Redford has ruled that President Donald J. Trump's name may remain on the state's primary ballot for the 2024 Republican Presidential Primary.
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› New York Governor Kathy Hochul wants New Yorkers to know that they are entitled to "feel safe" and that her administration is troubled by all the data her administration is collecting from the surveillance being conducted by the "Social Media Analysis Unit" relating to hateful online speech.
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The Will to Live, Tucker Carlson in Spain, and Jenna Ellis Testimony Against Trump
Good Morning and Happy Tuesday, #LALiens. If you ask Mike, Ye is getting back on the throttle. Will there be an awakening of the American spirit?
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Today, Norm and Mike discuss:
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› The United States Centers for Disease Control is reporting that data emerging from 2021 shows that life expectancy for men is nearly six (6) years less than for women. Meanwhile, Michigan's legislature has introduced a bill dubbed the "Death with Dignity Act," to legalize medically assisted suicide and joining a growing coalition of American states creating legal pathways for individuals to kill themselves under the supervision and assistance of the medical system.
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› Tucker Carlson is in Spain. Something about separatists. Something about taxpayer money being funneled to appease discordant groups. Something about pardoning separatists. But Tucker Carlson is in Spain and is marching with tens of thousands of Spanish citizens in opposition to what is crystallizing as top-down subversion of the country's laws and justice system.
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› Video footage of Jenna Ellis' cooperative testimony in the Georgia case against President Donald J. Trump made its debut yesterday and has gone viral. What is the role of a cooperating witness—or, "snitch"—in criminal prosecutions and how is one's credibility and motive effectively cross-examined by defense counsel?
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Harbaugh Suspension, Young Thug's Lyrics Admitted in Criminal Trial, Migrant Winter
Good Morning and Happy Monday, #LALiens. Welcome back to Law and Legitimacy (@LawPodDaily) with Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer.
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› Big Ten Commissioner Tony Pettiti suspended University of Michigan Head Football Coach Jim Harbaugh on Friday
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› Judge Ural Glanville will allow lyrics from rap artist Young Thug to be introduced by the prosecution in the criminal RICO trial set to begin later this month in Georgia.
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› The big city migrant crisis looks to further deteriorate as winter approaches in New York City, Chicago, and others.
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Vivek is Censored, Update on Biggs & Shroyer, & Free Will
Happy Friday! Norm and Mike showcase what really happened at the Republican Presidential Debate, talk about the respective confinements of Joe Biggs and Owen Shroyer, and talk about Salolsky's new book.
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Minnesota Judge Orders 14th Amendment Challenge to Trump 'Not Ripe' for Review
Good morning, #LALiens! If you missed yesterday's stream with @RonColeman, we commend that replay to you now.
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Today, Norm and Mike take on the following for Law and Legitimacy:
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› The Minnesota Supreme Court in an order yesterday ruled that the case filed against the Minnesota Secretary of State to preclude Trump's name from appearing on the primary election ballots in early 2024 is not ripe for adjudication.
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› Photojournalists or infiltrators? An article published by HonestReporting raises ethical questions about the role of American journalists embedded with Hamas forces in advance of the October 7th attacks in Israel.
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› 2024 Republican Presidential Debates: Vivek shines yet again.
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› Norm's visit to the Senate Committee afforded him several insights. He shares.
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Tracing the Architecture of Modern Antisemitic Discrimination with Guest Ron Coleman
Good morning , good Wednesday, #LALiens. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy (@LawPodDaily). Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer are live every weekday to test the limits of our common conception of rights and interests, and to advance a discussion about the challenges to the shared future for the citizens of a western nation when the legitimating features of its institutions are in a free-fall.
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Today, Norm and Mike are honored to have Ron Coleman join the stream. A meaningful and productive stream focusing on antisemitic discrimination was promised. We are here to deliver. This is not one you will want to miss.
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Trump Takes the Stand in Manhattan, Nashville Manicotti Pesto & Shroyer
That has to be one of the most creative titles in our long and decorated livestream history, right?
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Good morning, Happy Tuesday, and welcome again to Law and Legitimacy with Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer.
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› Donald J. Trump takes the stand in the Manhattan civil trial and performs as a presidential candidate should. What did we learn?
› Louder with Crowder's Steven Crowder monopolized the internet yesterday and was censored for his trouble—the events surrounding the Covenant School shooting have become more clear to the public through this quaint concept known as journalism.
› Norm is in D.C. for the Congressional Hearings and talks about Owen Shroyer's conditions of confinement since his entry into prison just several weeks ago.
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Norm is Going, Going, Back, Back to DC & Owen Shroyer Still in Solitary
The clocks fell back but we're live at the same time on this beautiful Monday morning. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy with Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer.
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› Norm is headed back to Washington, D.C., and he tells you why
› Owen Shroyer is still in solitary confinement
› The gag order imposed on Trump in the election interference case was lifted
› Question: what is wrong about Christian nationalism?
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Tucker Visits Assange, Fingerprints of Misinformation & Trump's Agenda 47
Good morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy (@LawPodDaily) with Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer. We extend the warmest of welcomes to those of you viewing for perhaps the first time by way of Norm's appearance yesterday with Jack Posobiec.
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› Tucker Carlson has gone to London to visit the incarcerated Julian Assange
› The Consortium for Independent Journalism filed a first amendment lawsuit against the federal government and NewsGuard Technologies claiming the cooperation between the two to label, stigmatize, and defame American media organizations which oppose or dissent from American foreign defense policy.
› President Donald J. Trump announces the New American Academy via "Agenda 47," aiming to establish parallel educational infrastructure for American families and students disaffected by the current institutional landscape.
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Tuberville's Stand, Infant Mortality Rises, an Overturned Primary Election
Good morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy. Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer meet every weekday morning at the intersection of sovereign power and the faith of the citizenry in the righteous use thereof.
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› Senator Tommy Tuberville is causing a stir in the Senate by continuing to block the confirmation of at least 61 military promotions.
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› For the first time in 20 years, infant mortality rates in the United States has risen.
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› The results of the Bridgeport Primary Election for Mayor has been ordered by a court to be set aside in favor of a new primary election.
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› Attorney General or Candidate for Governor? North Carolina AG Josh Stein continues to blur the lines.
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Does Trump Have a 'Double Jeopardy' Defense in January 6th Prosecutions?
Good Morning, LALiens. It is November 1, 2023. Christmas is finally here.
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Norm and Mike cover the following in today's stream:
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› Whether President Donald J. Trump has a viable defense in the form of 'double jeopardy' in response to the criminal charges he faces in connection with the events of January 6, 2021.
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› Owen Shroyer, Jake Lang are in solitary confinement. Is the Department of Justice playing games?
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› Self-titled "counterterrorism prosector" Will Rollins is running for Congress in California. And he really likes stuffing. Ask his grandpa.
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› Should society hold false accusers accountable for the harm that befalls the wrongly accused in the American justice system?
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The Exorcist (Almost) 50 Years Later + Texas, DHS & The Promise of Populism
Good morning and Happy Halloween, #LALiens! Norm and Mike have spared the tricks and indulge the treat that is the history of The Excorcist, nearly 50 years from its original release in 1973.
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› The New Criterion's Essay: "The Promise of Populism"
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› The Order granting a temporary restraining order to the petitioner in State of Texas v. Department of Homeland Security et al. The federal government must temporarily cease its destruction of Texas' property at the southern border.
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Noonan on Why to Show the Video, Tillich on Grace & Mile High Club
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The Gaza Strip, Tents for Migrants in NYC & a Democrat Challenger to Biden
Good Morning and Happy Friday! Norm and Mike convene to discuss:
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› Reports of Israel's ground invasion of Gaza, and the U.S. deploying more troops to the region
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› Migrants continue to flow into New York City and Mayor Adams has publicly considered providing tents
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› Minnesota Democrat, Congressional Representative Dean Phillips, is expected to announce his bid for President of the United States and to seek the party nomination over the incumbent, Joe Biden.
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Colorado Court Tightens Grip on Case Challenging Trump's Eligibility
Welcome to Law and Legitimacy! Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer livestream their discussion of Judge Sarah Wallace's denial of Colorado Secretary of State, Jena Griswold, and President Donald J. Trump's motion to dismiss the petition before it. That petition, of course, is one which challenges Trump's eligibility to have his name lawfully placed on presidential election ballots in the forthcoming 2024 presidential election pursuant to application of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution.
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With time, the duo also take a look at the lawsuits filed against Meta—parent company to Facebook and Instagram—by 41 states attorneys general. While the suits portend to represent the interests of children's mental health and well-being, the bigger questions appear still to be unasked.
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The State of Stand-Up in Los Angeles & Missouri v. Biden
Good Morning and Happy Tuesday! Welcome to Law and Legitimacy: the daily livestream tracing the contours of western institutions amid the decline of their collective resonance with the citizens for whom they were founded to serve.
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Norm and Mike take a few minutes for the former to download a few takeaways from his recent west coast wanderings, including his stint at a comedy bootcamp hosted by none other than Jay Leno and Adam Carolla.
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The duo then pivots to the case of Missouri v. Biden, for which the Supreme Court of the United States has granted certiorari. This case has all the makings of a landmark decision in those domains that matter most: speech, censorship, and the public-private coordination giving refuge to the patterned suppression of individual liberties.
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Madness Abounds and Convention of States with Mark Meckler
Happy Friday! Mike is joined by a friend of Law and Legitimacy and President of the Convention of States, Mark Meckler (@MarkMeckler), a nonprofit striving to call a Convention of States (@COSProject) under Article V of the United States Constitution to propose constitutional amendments limiting federal power.
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Mark appeared on Law and Legitimacy early on during our long-form days. The chance meeting between Mark and Norm is a great one. Mark appears on the heels of Mike's interview with Adam Ellwanger and the discussion of declining conditions at America's southern border, as federal policy is in direct contradiction to the laws, policies, and enforcement efforts of the state of Texas. Mike and Mark use that discussion as a launching pad to reintroduce LALiens to the promise of the tenth amendment and the concept of federalism.
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How to Turn a Cold War Hot with Guest Adam Ellwanger
Mike is joined by special guest co-host Adam Ellwanger, professor of English, political writer for The American Mind, fellow at The Claremont Institute, and editor of The Peerless Review.
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Law and Legitimacy frequent flyers might recall Norm and Mike's discussion from a couple of weeks back, which analyzed the deteriorating conditions at the United States' southern border through the lens of federalism—the federal executive applied immigration policy creating untenable conditions for Texas citizens and the rights guaranteed to them by their state and federal government. Adam wrote the main piece to which Mike made reference, "How to Turn a Cold War Hot." Adam is kind enough to join Mike as a guest co-host to take that analysis further.
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Garland's DOJ Appeals Sentences of Convicted Proud Boys
Good Morning and welcome back to Law and Legitimacy. Mike presses forward in Norm's absence, but certainly not without his impact. The Washington Post's reporting on the Department of Justice's move to appeal the court's sentencing behind the convictions of the Proud Boys convicted in the January 6th proceedings includes a spicy quote from Norm.
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UAW and the Big 3 are still struggling to find middle ground. Mike offers some perspective.
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Free-aky Speech Friday with Marc Randazza
Good morning, Happy Friday, and welcome to Law and Legitimacy (@LawPodDaily). Mike is joined today by a special guest co-host, first amendment juggernaut and trial attorney, Marc Randazza.
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The duo expands on yesterday's stream re: TikTok v. Montana, social media algorithms, free speech, censorship, and the age of consent a la beverage alcohol and tobacco purchases and sales.
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Dusk in the Age of Information — Jury Selection, Immigration & Consent
Good morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy (@LawPodDaily). While Norm takes a breather, Mike is doing the hybrid point guard-shooting guard thing: initiating the offense and creating his own shots. We had some fun yesterday in the open court, so let's run it back.
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Today:
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› TikTok, Montana, federal court, first amendment and the age of consent
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› Israel-Hamas' hot conflict threatens spill across the Atlantic
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› Special Counsel Jack Smith seeks to limit Team Trump's use of social media to nothing more than publicly viewable information in cross-examining potential jurors.
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Alex Jones to Plead the Fifth in Fulton County Trump Prosecution + Q&A
Good Morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy (@LawPodDaily)! Norm is traveling today, but he squeezed in a few minutes in the wee hours of the morning to share some of his vintage wisdom. Mike will cue that during this morning's stream!
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Politico is reporting that Alex Jones will refuse to testify as a witness in the Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' criminal prosecution of President Donald J. Trump. If so moved by the courts, Jones will assert his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination as he has done in the past.
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What is 'pleading the fifth'? Let Norm explain the nature of the underlying case against President Trump, the nature of conspiracy and R.I.C.O criminal prosecutions, and why Alex Jones' testimony is unnecessary to further the case in chief.
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Thereafter, Mike opens the floor for discussion with the live chat.
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Trump Motion to Dismiss in J6, Elon Sued by SEC, Hostages and Gaza
Before Norm heads off to the Wild West, he and Mike finish yesterday's analysis and update observations concerning the crisis unfolding in Gaza which is appears likely to metastasize in the West.
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Modern Warfare, Trump Moves to Dismiss & SEC Sues Elon
It is a somber Monday morning. Norm and Mike continue ahead.
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Domestic Terrorism, Formal Deprogramming & Texas Under the Scope
It's Friday, but it feels like Tuesday. That's because this is only our second stream this week. We cut the product by 60% and you're still here. Things we should all think about.
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Today:
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› Newsweek, The Blaze, and the FBI's monitoring of Trump supporters
› Hillary Clinton's appearance on CNN
› Adam Ellwanger's piece in The American Mind, "How to Turn a Cold War Hot"
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