I will not be reviewing the whole video as Smokey destroyed himself immediately and the debate was over as soon as he answered the first question. But I will review a little more than that. And we'll also look at a couple of ChatGPT summaries of the debate. https://youtu.be/c7iBgyJXIN0?si=AZSzH0Y3R5a_l_fT

Kevin and I did a review of a debate between Free Gracers and Calvinists. In the side chat were Charles Jennings (who was one of the two Free Grace proponents) and C Jay Cox who is Lordship Salvation but not in the debate. Kevin and I reject both extremes and consider ourselves moderate Lordship Salvation (which in my opinion overlaps with moderate Free Grace). Here is our review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy8WVsUuk0s. I'll be starting from an hour and 9 minutes as I don't see any interesting comments prior to that.

The problem with the term "Free Grace" is that is describes a number of different positions and is essentially a "false dichotomy" argument that is trying to distinguish itself from "Lordship Salvation" which is also a broad umbrella term that is not a unified position. Scripture presents a more complex situation than either of those two positions generally acknowledge. Today we will listen to a self-described "Free Grace" proponent who is rejected by many others who claim the same title. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_MA7MBrk06k&list=WL&index=1&t=3538s&pp=gAQBiAQB - starting at 29 minutes in.

What does this mean, especially in relation to Lordship Salvation vs Free Grace etc. 1 Peter 1.5, 9 Jud 1.24 (and whole chapter) Heb 10.23, 38, 39 And maybe John 10

What does this mean? We'll look at this is Matthew 7 and a few other passages. This will be partly in response to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoEcMVzFBRc which has the description "In this video I will go over numerous passages with Max such as Matthew 7.15-20, Luke 6.43-45,Matthew 3.7-10 & Galatians 5.22-23. What is the fruit? Can Christians have bad fruit?

Why is there controversy about the gospel that Ray Comfort preaches? Is repentance necessary for salvation? Yes. Does repentance mean to "turn from sin"? Yes, but only in your mind. The change in life is later. What does the word "repentance" literally mean? It is a translation of the word "μετανοια" which means "another mind/thinking" and is used to mean "a change of mind". We'll investigate these and related topics. I apologise for the poor recording. I hope you can figure out most of it. Please ask questions, not just about the gaps in recording but any confusion and objections to what we say.

Jamie says that trees don't necessarily produce fruit and so it's not guaranteed that a good tree will produce good fruit. Lack of fruit does not prove lack of a good tree. God says the opposite, it seems to me. Matthew 3:10-12 KJV And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. Luke 3:9 KJV And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Luke 3:16-17 KJV John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Matthew 7:17-20 KJV Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Free gracers like to limit this passage to the "false prophets" who are mentioned two verses before this and then limit the meaning of "false prophet" to only leaders. But everyone who says something incorrect is prophecying falsely by the definition of prophecy! It just means to proclaim, to speak, to announce. And the context after this passage is applying it to everyone! Luke 6:42-49 KJV Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye. 43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. 46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

God requires us to love Him with all our heart and mind and soul and strength. That is His standard. If you are not doing that, you are worshipping the devil because there are only two kingdoms. Anything not done in worship, love, service and trust of God, serves the kingdom of darkness and therefore the devil. However, we cannot do that perfectly, so God accepts imperfect, incomplete faith Jesus Christ as being sufficient for Him to gift us with the imputed righteousness of Christ which covers our sins. Clip from https://rumble.com/v6qidh2-reviewing-the-anti-calvinist-side-of-youtube-is-so-cringe.html

I want to hear Kurt's testimony, not just of how he came to Jesus Christ and but what God has taught him since. What is the good news (gospel) that moves someone from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light but also the good news of how to live in the kingdom of light. I'd also like to question Kurt on his misuse of "heretic" as though it is a joke and the apparent justification of division in how he uses it https://www.youtube.com/live/YKDRow53uF0?si=fxGKVIkblR5kVr0w&t=254 And also his variable definition of free grace - https://www.youtube.com/live/YKDRow53uF0?si=xq69pbLZCyAdru7l&t=614 (and then gets in to the history of opposition to his or Ryrie's strawman of "Lordship Salvation") - then not repent of sin at salvation, opposite Acts 17, and conflating "repent of all SINS" with "repent of SIN" and accusing jmac of saying you have to "MAKE Jesus Christ Lord" - I like to hear quotes of Jmac saying those words. I've never heard them. Then he accuses Matthew of being Old Testament instead of Jesus's words for HIS constitution for HIS kingdom. So I shouldn't follow Jesus??? Then accuses jmac of adding works to salvation. Repentance is a work?? then a redefinition of Free Grace - https://www.youtube.com/live/YKDRow53uF0?si=kDZDeXxcGOlLtU5z&t=851 rejection of any guarantee of works (illogically calls it "irresistible grace"

Charles Jennings says that the work God has begun in us is to share the gospel. How is sharing the gospel a work IN us? What work did God begin in us?? I will refute Charles' eisegesis with exegesis. He runs away from Philippians 1.6 to defend his heresy. He does nothing to establish his claims logically or exegetically. From https://www.youtube.com/live/SvWbUogArHA?si=jrFQO4B42xZFTwjq&t=3206

Will the Holy Spirit change you? There are many "Free Gracers" who reject the sanctifying power and work of the Holy Spirit and they call it "backloading works" onto the gospel. They hate righteousness and submission to God and His law. They are rebels who want to freedom to serve the flesh. In this video, Kevin and I show that scripture guarantees that the Holy Spirit will be at work in and on you and will change you into the image of Jesus Christ if you are His. And not just in glory, but you will be changing in this life, unless you do not belong to Him.

https://www.youtube.com/live/gfreeA5QFI8