Germar Rudolf is a German chemist who wrote the Rudolf Report, which questions the use of gas chambers, as well as the Holocaust Encyclopedia. He was imprisoned in Germany for his beliefs, the charge being “inciting racial hatred”, and has active warrants in Europe today. He is the founder of Castle Hill publishers and until 2005 published the Quarterly Journal for Free Historical Research. His website is https://germarrudolf.com Michael G. Vann, Ph.D., is Professor of History at Sacramento State University, and undisputed “World’s Toughest French Historian”, author of “The Great Hanoi Rat Hunt: Empire, Disease, and Modernity in French Colonial Vietnam”, and lots of articles on violence, politics, zombies, and surfing at https://jacobin.com/author/michael-g-vann His book: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Hanoi-Rat-Hunt-Modernity/dp/0190602694 He also wrote the afterword to I Am Oum Ry: A Champion Kickboxer’s Story of Surviving the Cambodian Genocide and Discovering Peace (https://doppelhouse.com/i-am-oum-ry) Support the podcast by purchasing merch at http://fightbackpodcast.com Save 10% by using promo code FIGHTBACK10 http://MerakiMedicinal.com/fightback is the best source for methylene blue, and purchases also help us fund our free speech platform 00:00 Intro 00:28 Challenges in Finding Debate Participants 01:02 Introducing Michael Vann: Historian and Scholar 05:44 Introducing Germar Rudolf: Chemist and Revisionist 13:56 Debating the Holocaust: Initial Positions 33:39 Holocaust Denial and Free Speech 49:24 Soviet Reports and Death Toll Discrepancies 50:31 Historians Under Threat in Poland 51:28 The Wannsee Protocol and Deportation 52:10 Interpreting Historical Documents 53:50 Eyewitness Testimonies and Their Reliability 56:02 Torture and Testimony at Nuremberg Trials 58:05 Auschwitz Documentation and Contradictions 01:01:58 Mass Graves and Forensic Evidence 01:06:28 The Role of Propaganda and Historical Narratives 01:09:09 Challenges of Holocaust Revisionism 01:10:55 The Importance of Free Speech and Open Debate 01:34:07 Concluding Thoughts, Wrap Up