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John Thaler exposes the false criticism of his investigation 3-3-23
Michele Swinick the interviewer is a Maricopa County election judge and podcaster.
Thaler stresses this was never a call to convict anyone in the court of public opinion, but a call for people to demand their representatives investigate. "There were consistencies with documents found in the racketeering schemes and what we found in documents belonging to participants in the election."
"This is not just a matter of documents; and certainly not just a matter of deeds...
We have interviews with individuals, we have over 24,000 entries of cell phone records and text records, we have bank statements, we have employment records, we have a whole number of things: whatever we can legally obtain, we do.
So when we say somebody's got a problem, what we mean by that is we form analyses on crimes and when we see how a crime's committed, we see how it's done, how the money moves, we see how things change hands. We see what documents are used we see what people prepared them.
"When we look for other crimes or other criminals, what we're looking for is similar patterns in the things that we see: that could be text records, call records, things we see in bank statements and deeds, that could be filings with the AZ Corporations Commision, that could be in other public docs. There's a whole wide range of things that we look for before somebody's got what we call a problem, where there's a problem going on with a particular individual that we see in their records--not simply deeds--in their records that gives us pause and calls for further investigation.
"And what Ms Breger actually said in the presentation, which seems to get lost by everybody, is we don't have certain subpoena powers. We certainly don't have a grand jury. We don't have a team of investigators past a certain number. We don't have the resources to go further.
"What we called for, which is what's been totally missed in all this, was for further investigation of the allegations that we brought forth. (and instead everybody took sides)
"Everybody's yelling it's true it's false, rather than saying we need to investigate what happened. That's not our problem.
Our problem was to do what we did, get out there tell the people what's going on and then let the People tell their representatives what they feel should be done to get fairness for the state of Arizona and the people of the state.
"70 precincts' machines do not break down in the absence of fraud.. fraud occurred. Why there's still no answer to a single question as to how that occurred? ... All of a sudden we came along and said wait a minute, the emperor has no clothes."
To the accusations he "shoehorned" in election fraud as a ploy to make money with his book: f you take the hours that go into those book and preparing 3k docs and look at my hourly rate, it's not a winner for me.
Christine Reagan also spoke in this episode, about holding your legislators accountable. You can watch the clip here:
https://rumble.com/v2cf8nm-25-arizona-corruption-exposed.html
To take action with her group, find your state at
https://www.actforamerica.org/state-campaigns
#johnthaler #thaler #breger #corruption #racketeering
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