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The April 4 Wisconsin Supreme Court race is one of the most important elections in the country, and Dan O'Donnell of News/Talk 1130 WISN Milwaukee explains why. It's a tight race between conservative Dan Kelly and soft-on-crime Janet Protasiewicz, and liberal groups and media are up to their usual tricks. Wisconsinites can keep both their courts and elections fair if conservatives get out and vote. Watch now to learn why everyone is talking about this race and why you, your family, and your friends need to VOTE NOW! Want daily news without the liberal slant? Subscribe to First Right here: https://www.restorationofamerica.com/first-right/ (MACHINE GENERATED) Doug Truax: Welcome to the First Right Podcast, a weekly conservative news show brought to you by Restoration of America. I'm Doug Truax, founder and president of Restoration of America. Today we were blessed to have a return guest from the all important state of Wisconsin. His name is Dan O'Donnell, host of a popular morning talk radio show on Milwaukee on W I S N 1130. Hey Dan, thanks so much for coming on the show. Dan O'Donnell: Well, the pleasure is all mine. Doug Truax: All right, good. So big stuff in Wisconsin. All right, big race. Everybody's talking about it. So just as a starting point, since we get this out around the country also in in Wisconsin, but around the country, just give the viewers a quick rundown on why everybody's talking about this race in Wisconsin. Dan O'Donnell: Well, because this is for control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, there was a conservative justice, former Chief Justice, Patience Roggensack, who decided not to seek another 10 year term because she's 80 years old. So she's taking a much deserved retirement and that's opened up a seat. Now as things stand now with Roggensack's retirement, there are three conservatives and three liberals, the race that will be concluded on Tuesdays between a former justice named Dan Kelly, who's an ardent conservative. He unfortunately lost his seat on the court in 2020 and he's running against an Uber liberal Milwaukee County judge by the name of Janet Protasiewicz. And the reason that this is considered to be such a big race because it doesn't just impact things in Wisconsin. You might not know this, but there is a presidential race next year. I think people are starting to talk about that a little bit. Wisconsin, of course is and probably always will be considered one of the key swing states. Well, Wisconsin, with the conservative Supreme Court majority that we've had for about the last 15 years now has been able to pass under former Republican Governor Scott Walker, voter id. The Wisconsin Supreme Court with its conservative majority just banned ballot harvesting in the state of Wisconsin, just gave a definitive ruling that ballot harvesting is illegal. If conservatives lose the court on Tuesday, mark my words, voter ID will be gone. By the time that Americans are casting their ballots in 2024 ballot harvesting will again be legal. We may even have a challenge to Wisconsin's electoral maps, which could mean that the control of the United States House, if we lose two Republican Congressmen, Brian Steil and Derrek Van Orden here, that that Republican majority, which is razor thin as it is, could be gone. It, it's not just enough to say that Wisconsin is at stake. I don't think it's any hyperbole to say that the future of the country is at stake here. Doug Truax: Yeah, how about it? And Chuck, another one up. Lemme just put an ad in here. For Republicans doing a much better job as we go forward on advanced planning and being proactive as we see these things come because the left, they're all over it. They got the long-term plan, they got the organizations, they're working it. We're always a little late. I think we're doing much better in this race than we've probably ever been doing, but we gotta get better at this side of it and there's gonna be more super important races down the road. I couldn't agree with you more. This is, implications on this thing are huge. So, so when you talk about the race and, and the polling and, and there's a lot going on, I think Pro Seitz is pretty, when it all started, she was pretty far out front, but there's been other polling going on. Give us your sense of what you're seeing on the ground for the polling and not just the polling, but how you feel this is turning right now. Dan O'Donnell: Boy, anybody who thinks that anyone is going to win a race in Wisconsin by more than about five points nowadays is nuts. The last time we had really a, a runaway statewide winner was when Tammy Baldwin ran for reelection. She won by about I think eight or nine points in 2018. Outside of that, pretty much every statewide race in Wisconsin is within four or five points. The very good, very conservative senator Ron Johnson just won reelection by the skin of his teeth over a radical leftist, our former lieutenant governor. So I think this is going to come down to turnout. I I, I hate to sound cliche, but this is really anyone's race. And if you take a look at the, the sort of ads that Pro Seitz is running here in Wisconsin, especially in the Milwaukee and Madison media markets, the two biggest cities where she absolutely has to run up the score, she is not sounding like a candidate who thinks she's up by a lot. And what's telling me that she's a little nervous is that she's not pounding the table with abortion. Now of course, she's promised to be the deciding vote to legalize abortion again here in Wisconsin, but she's essentially with her advertising in the last days of this campaign, accusing Dan Kelly of being corrupt, like literally using the word corrupt to describe Dan Kelly in her advertising. That's not something to me that someone does when they think they're way ahead, when they bring out these wild allegations like this. So I think this is really anyone's race. My guess it's two points either way, but honestly this is the first time in a long time. I really don't have a sense of which way this one is going. Doug Truax: Wow. That's, that's surprising that you don't have that sense cuz you're the guy that usually does. And that just goes to show that, like you said, this is, this is always tight and you know, just it's an April election. There's a lot of nuance here around the turnout in general. It's, you know, potentially a low turnout race, but then now you have all this attention. So that's, so we're gonna see how that all those factors are gonna play in here in a couple days. And, and so, so thanks for, for sharing that. We're obviously pulling for all those, those republicans in Wisconsin that are getting the vote out and making sure everybody knows to go vote. So, so I wanna talk to you about the, about the media and, you know, their ability to ignore stories. You know, you've, you've broken a lot of good things over over time here. The vote buying scheme possible. Yep. Possible illegal registration, voter registration going on. And so tell us a little bit more about all that and, and where you think that stands. Will we get any traction on those issues now? Dan O'Donnell: Well, about a month ago I broke a, a scheme by a former member of the state Democratic party who has come up with what appears to be a scam pack called Wisconsin Takes Action. And what they're doing is paying people in the form of digital gift cards in order to text their friends and families about voting. And if you text 60 people, you get $60. So they're essentially paying a dollar per voter that you contact. Well, the problem with this is under Wisconsin's statutes, this falls under election bribery. It is illegal in Wisconsin to pay anything to any elector to cast a ballot to induce any other person to vote. What they're doing is a clear example of election bribery. I can tell you that there is almost certainly at least one investigation that's going on right now into this activity. But as far as how effective it is, let's face it, you know, your, your average liberal 20 something who is being targeted with this scheme isn't going to take the time to text 60 different people. I think you have to text them four or five different times right up to and including on election day to make sure that they voted in order to get like 150 or $250 in gift cards. It just seems like a lot of work in terms of what I believe to be unlawful voter registration. It seems like Milwaukee Public Schools, the state's largest school district is actually sharing student voter registration data with the League of Women Voters and other various third party liberal groups. Now, I just got an email back three weeks after I broke this story from Milwaukee Public Schools saying, no, we, we aren't doing anything illegal. Okay, well why did you wait three weeks before getting back to me after you've clearly done all of your get out the vote drives. So the status of that is a little less clear. I haven't heard if there are gonna be any lawsuits or anything about that. But what I have been using my platforms to do here in Wisconsin is to encourage conservatives to do the exact same thing to text friends and family about voting to now I obviously can't pay them in gift cards or anything like that, but to get out, out and vote early. Remember in 2022 in November the the places where conservatives where Republicans made big gains or in New York and California and of course Florida, all places were early voting and ballot harvesting are essentially being done as a matter of chorus. So the quicker that other conservatives in other states like Wisconsin hop on board, I think the better off that we're going to be. Doug Truax: Yeah, that's the one thing I keep saying a lot is that we actually, going forward now we have to have two thoughts in mind. We have to do everything we can to win and whatever that means, as long as it's legal, you know, the voting early, helping people get their ballots in all those types of things are different in different states. But if it's legal, let's do it to the best of our ability. Yep. And then when we win and we're back in power, then we can have that conversation about, okay, we need to go back closer to election day and fewer ballots in the mail, all those things that we wanna like, get it back to the way it should be so that there's less opportunity to cheat. But we gotta do, we gotta do both things. Dan O'Donnell: And, and the other thing, I'm, I'm sorry to cut you off, but this is the most important point that I'm stressing. If we can beat liberals at their own game of early voting and mail-in balloting, they will be begging us to change the law back to just election day. I promise you the best way to return to election day from what we have now, which is essentially election month, remember we're like the only first world country that does voting this way, where you essentially just, you know, send in your ballots like it's American idol for goodness ex every other country doesn't do mail-in balloting because of the potential for fraud. If conservatives master mail-in balloting, if conservatives start winning elections consistently using mail-in balloting, I promise you the left will want to return to one day only voting excuse only early or absentee voting and we'll get a victory without actually having to change laws over the objections of Democrats. Doug Truax: Yeah, no, that's a great point. You know, just gotta get good at it. You're right. And then they'll be like, ah, we can't do this anymore. We're getting beat. And cuz I think, you know, it's still a center right country and I, I think we just have to do a better job of getting our folks out and making it happen. It's just not been one of those things that we've been, you know, great at over the years is the voter registration drives and all these things that they're just killing us at now, but we're like waking up to it. One other thing I was gonna ask you about though too is like, you see all these things, like you're talking about the gift cards and the bribery and everything and you know, we're, we're very frustrated on the right with the lack of, it's just, it's just lawlessness and then there's a lack of enforcement. And so I think we're probably gonna start seeing, you know, I can get your opinion on this, start seeing more and more people that now have standing because their vote didn't count cuz somebody got bribed to vote over here they have standing filing, filing li civil lawsuits against these people on the ground ground that are actually doing these things because, you know, is is anybody, is any law enforcement official gonna go after 'em? I don't know in this environment. Probably not. It's super frustrating. They should, but if they don't, they'll take it in their own hands and get, get, you know, I hate to say it, get the lawyers out right. And go after some of these Dan O'Donnell: People. Well, yeah. Oh absolutely. Absolutely. That's what I've been telling people. Yeah. If you do believe you have standing, we have a great organization here in Wisconsin called Will the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty. I'm willing to wager that there are other groups in states that our viewers might be watching us in that do fundamentally the same thing that will take up lawsuits like this. If you believe you do have standing to sue over something that you believe was unlawful or something that might have in fact in essence disenfranchised, you absolutely get lawyers involved. Make sure that any sort of election irregularity is tied up in the courts. Try to get an injunction, at least a temporary injunction to stop it before election day. I mean, this is what the, the left has Mark Elias, who is a former Clinton lawyer, and he has been doing this sort of stuff for years. Every time Republicans try to put any sort of check on, you know, voter ID or anything like that, trying to verify who it is that's actually casting a ballot, Elias and the various law firms that he's been with will sue conservatives need to learn to play the left's game and play it better than them. And if we know anything about liberals is that as soon as you beat them, they will whine, they will cry and they will demand that the rules are, excuse me, that the rules are changed. Doug Truax: Absolutely. Yeah. Gotta go back at 'em as hard as we can. And I would just encourage all of our viewers too, if you know out there conservative lawyers who are willing to fight it out, praise them, encourage them, because this is another area too. I think that, you know, we, we don't wanna do frivolous things and we don't want lawyers get in trouble because they put out stuff that just has no real, you know, value or standing to it. But I do admire now these conservative lawyers around the country, they're like, you know what, we gotta fight this out. We gotta go after 'em. Because to your point about all Elias, I think they have a lot of their own people besides Elias that are willing to do this. We just have to go and, and and do it. Our our guys have to do it too. It's just a super heated environment, you know, the media's after you and everything else, but we just have to recognize this is what it is and, and we gotta be willing to fight it out. So yeah, those, those guys that will are, are great. So Totally agree. One last thing I want to ask you about. So on Restoration News, we, we've been reporting about Janet Zeitz is light sentencing and, and we've got this Perez case and the the most recent this murder, it's a terrible thing, all this stuff, and it plays into what's going on with the campaign and her light sentencing of this guy who may have done this thing, but they don't want to cover it. So, so talk to us a little bit about how the, you know, it looks like the media's in full lockdown mode to try to help her get over the finish line in spite of her light sentencing problems. Dan O'Donnell: Well, not only that, they actually, today the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel put out a story in which one of the victims of a rape in which protasiewicz give a whole lot of prison time to the defendant, to the rapist actually came out. She wasn't identified because she is a sexual assault victim, but she came out and blasted the use of her case as a political ad. So not only is the Journal Sentinel and the Wisconsin State Journal and TV stations and radio stations, Wisconsin Public Radio here in Wisconsin refusing to cover these light sentences, you now have the media actively seeking out a victim so that she can blast associates and allies of Dan Kelly for daring to highlight how lenient Janet protasiewicz I myself have broken at least four or five of these stories, these cases. I mean, there was one where a man raped his unconscious cousin, protasiewicz actually praised his character during the sentencing hearing, gave him 14 months after accepting a plea deal when he went from a maximum sentence of about 40 years in prison to 10. I, I mean, it is just case after case, after case after case, all saying the same thing. The media doesn't just refuse to report on it, but will actively attack anyone who daress to bring this sort of thing up. What this does tell me, however, is that pro se what's in her allies, i e the media think that this is an issue on which she is extremely vulnerable. You don't do a story like this unless you believe that the stories of what we are now calling her no jail Janet has been doing while on the bench in Milwaukee. You don't do these unless you believe that the no jail Janet nickname and the whole theme of her just being incredibly lenient is having an impact. I think it is. And that's why I think we're seeing this organized press blackout, which actually is kind of amazing. It, it, it, we never used to see this where the press would just pretend that something didn't exist. They would cover a story and try their best to minimize it. Now we're just seeing if there is a story that doesn't fit their narrative, it's gone. You just, you do not see it. For example, let me, let me, let me ask you this. Did you know that protasiewicz former stepson accused her of violently beating his father, her former husband who he, she was married to back in the 1990s when she was 34 and he was 70, and also he accused protasiewicz of using the n word to refer to people who came before her when she was an assistant district attorney. I'm willing to wager none of your viewers ever heard of that because the media simply refused to give it any oxygen after it was initially reported by a great website called Wisconsin right now.com. Doug Truax: Absolutely. No, I I I know what you're talking about, but you're right, it's not out there very much at all because they don't wanna talk about it. And it is the strangest thing now. I mean, it's a natural outcome. We kind of saw this coming, right, because it moved from what you said. Well, let's just, let's talk about it, let's put it on page six and let, let's put that there and don't talk and, you know, you kind of think it through. Well, if that's not working for 'em, they're just gonna go full lockdown and not even talk about it. I mean, there's, they're just total Democrat operatives and Oh yeah, yeah, they got a built in, they got a built in PR system that's working for 'em. So, yeah. Well, we're fighting back. And so I do have one more thing I wanna ask you. So what do you think Dan Kelly needs to do in the final days here to pull this off? Dan O'Donnell: Just keep encouraging people to get out and vote. And not only that text, like 10 20 of your right-leaning friends. I was actually shocked when talking to people who are actually making phone calls on behalf of Kelly at how many people in rural, northern and western Wisconsin don't even know that there's a Supreme Court race. Okay, you need to, if you are in Wisconsin, you're watching this, you're listening to this, whatever it is, text as many people as you know and make sure they vote. And don't just vote, vote early. We've got a couple more days of in-person absentee voting. There's still time to get your mail-in ballot back. Make sure you get out and vote. Don't leave it to chance by waiting for election day on Tuesday. Get out and vote now. Doug Truax: Yeah, amen. Gotta do it. We gotta tell each other what's going on, especially these small ra these off cycle races. Totally. We gotta let everybody know. Yeah, I, I see that too. It's, it's a little discouraging, but I do think there's enough heat on this whole thing and there's enough ads and there's a lot of money going into this, into the state right now. I think the awareness level's going up, which then goes back to center, right. People, people in the middle, they don't want to be attacked by somebody got a light sentence. I mean, you know, it starts to turn into like, well, this could happen to me. It's not just off someplace else. Right? So they're thinking, I gotta, I gotta do the right thing here. So I, I, you know, I'm always the eternal optimist. It's gonna go our way, but we'll see what happens. So, hey Dan, well thanks so much for all that you do and your courage and reporting all these things and breaking these stories and, and hang in there and let us know what, what we can do to help you out there. Okay? Dan O'Donnell: Absolutely. Doug Truax: Have a good one. All right. That's our show for today. 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First Right welcomes Steve Friend, FBI agent and SWAT team member who was suspended for sounding the alarm on January 6. Steve exposes the politicization of the FBI against conservative Americans and shares truth about the FBI's handling of the J6 investigation. Listen to his firsthand account on FBI injustices happening now. Support Steve and other brave FBI whistleblowers by donating to their legal fund at https://www.givesendgo.com/KyleSeraphin) All funds will be used to support and defend the Constitution through legally guaranteed rights afforded to FBI Whistleblowers under 5 USC 2303. Want daily news without the liberal slant? Subscribe to First Right at https://www.restorationofamerica.com/first-right/ Machine Generated Transcript 00:00:11:10 --> 00:00:29:13 Doug Truax: Welcome to the First Riight Podcast, a weekly conservative news show brought to you by Restoration of America. I'm Doug Truax, founder and president of Restoration of America. Today we were blessed to have FBI whistleblower, Steve Friend, a brave patriot who's exposing politicization of the FBI against conservative Americans. Hi Steve. Welcome to the show. 00:00:30:10 --> 00:00:31:21 Steve Friend: Thank you very much for having me. 00:00:32:00 --> 00:00:39:05 Doug Truax: All right, so before we get into details, just give the audience a quick overview of, you know, what drove you to go to the FBI and your career and things like that. 00:00:40:16 --> 00:01:30:11 Steve Friend: Well, I was a police officer in Savannah, Georgia for a number of years. Eventually applied and was taken on by the FBI in 2014 because of my law enforcement background, I was assigned to Indian reservation work in northwest Iowa, northeast Nebraska for the first seven years of my career, which is really great. It's a small niche in the fbi. Got a chance to do a lot of case work, opened up about 200 cases, arrested, about 150 violent criminals, eventually transferred to Florida in the summer of 2021 with the understanding that I was gonna be working child exploitation, human trafficking cases. But after a couple months was reassigned to work domestic terrorism issues on the joint terrorism task force. And, and that point is when I was introduced to the January 6th investigations and, and some of the, the rule violations that have been going on with the fbi. 00:01:30:17 --> 00:01:50:13 Doug Truax: Yeah, so get into that a little bit more though. So what were you starting to see that really drove you to the point, I mean, you get there, you got good intentions about everything, you know, I, it's not a perfect organization, but I'm sure you had, you know, a favorable view of the FBI and then you start seeing certain things and then it drives you to this point. So help us understand what it was you were looking at that got you to the, got you to this point. 00:01:51:17 --> 00:02:38:02 Steve Friend: Well, the FBI has a rule book, essentially. It's called the diag, the Domestic Investigation Operations Guide. And it sort of spells out how to carry an investigation forward. I was very familiar with it, having done all the case work that I've done before, and that by, if you follow those rules, January 6th should be one case from Washington DC run by those agents. And if they need work done in the field, they would cut leads, essentially request work to be done by other agents, but the decision was made instead to open up separate cases for each individual person and spread those cases around the country and to assign them to the offices where those individuals lived. That is within the rules of the fbi. It's very atypical. But once that decision was made, the agents that had those cases and the offices that had those cases were solely responsible for bringing those cases forward. 00:02:38:07 --> 00:03:28:08 When I started to look at the January 6th cases though, and talking to my colleagues who had been doing it for a number of months, they were answering to Washington DC even though they were the case agents on those cases. So the question I asked was, why, what's the benevolent, benign reason for that? And they were told that it was to get buy-in from the field. And, and that could mean one thing being that the FBI doesn't believe its workforce is capable of taking on cases with the great gusto that's necessary unless their name's on it, which is kind of hollow. And the other reason could be because the FBI wanted each individual field office to meet its predetermined metrics on domestic terrorism for the year and create a statistical narrative that makes it look like domestic terrorism is on the rise around the country, when really all of those case numbers are stemming from one four hour incident at the capitol on January 6th, 2021. 00:03:29:11 --> 00:03:46:13 Doug Truax: So talk to that a little bit more in terms of this, it, it looks like this effort to inflate numbers around domestic terrorism. Like how does that, what does that look like typically in, you know, before January 6th and what is happening now that is, is starting to skew it at least as much as you know? 00:03:48:08 --> 00:04:50:10 Steve Friend: Well, in my experience, and, and I think anybody who's, who's a consumer of the news knows that the, the demand for domestic terrorism vastly outstripped to supply. I think that the, the focus on national security since September 11th has transitioned from potential threats to the homeland abroad to then transition to potential homegrown terrorists with sympathies to potential outside threats. And now we're digging into homegrown domestic terrorism, which have a certain ideology which is convenient for the administration that tends to be in ruling power. And in this case, they're pinning that on domestic terrorism of white nationalism. But if you actually examine the, the, the number of cases that are righteous versus all the cases that are sending from January 6th, which again should be one case, but is now a thousand if not Growing to 2000 cases, it just creates this false dynamic. It moves the Overton window over to the point where now we're saying half the country that votes for a particular candidate for president is a potential terrorist. 00:04:50:12 --> 00:05:24:19 Doug Truax: Yeah, yeah. So it looks like, so what is happening then is typically to your point, there's a lot of like decentralization based on geographies for the fbi, you know, makes sense, right? If the case happened here, this office handles it, things like that. But if you get to this place, we're the people that are overly politicized at the top of the FBI and out in DC and they want to drive this narrative that all the domestic terror is increasing so they can use it politically. This is the way to do it. You just get together and say, Hey, why don't we spread this out and just make all these new numbers, and then it supports what we're after, right. That's what's going on. 00:05:25:11 --> 00:05:56:04 Steve Friend: Yes. And, and the FBI has the reputation of being the, you know, the uniform aggregator of all statistics around the country are pertaining to crime. And it has that, you know, that FBI logo on there that gives it their righteous, you know, label. So everybody takes it with, you know, without having any sort of skepticism that, that anybody that's parroting those STA stats is, you know, taking them in good faith and that they're honest and, and in fact they're, they're really not. They're manipulative and they're creating this false impression and it, it's, it's just not honest. And, and folks need to be aware of 00:05:56:04 --> 00:06:48:02 Doug Truax: It. Yeah, absolutely. And, and so sad to watch this happen, you know, when I grew up and when you were growing up, everybody's like, oh, you know, the FBI integrity, we feel we felt good about it, but the longer this kind of stuff goes on, it's like you said, half the country for sure is going, what the heck has happened here? And the trust in the organization in general, it's getting to a really low level. And so I don't, you know, who knows what the future of portends here for the fbi, but, but this is really tough stuff. And also, I was gonna ask you about, you know, we watched these, these SWAT style raids on these, you know, Roger Stone and obviously Mar-a-Lago, but then just people that are just out there associated with January 6th and like possible misdemeanors and entire FBI SWAT looking team shows up at their house and does a raid. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Does what's the, what's the take over there at the FBI amongst the people you've talked to that, don't they see that that's just completely over the top? 00:06:50:00 --> 00:07:34:03 Steve Friend: Yes, and it's, it is derivative of a couple factors. One, I was on a SWAT team when I was in my assignment at the Omaha division, so I did for five years. I'm a believer in the, in in swat. I, I think it's a, a good tool in the, the tool belt for law enforcement, but the FBI's, a professional law enforcement organization prides itself on using the least amount of force necessary to bring somebody into custody safely. What's gone on though with these January 6th individuals and, and with folks, you know, that were preying outside of abortion clinics and when we're being arrested is the punishment is the process now at this point. So you can, there's a subjective spectrum for when it's appropriate to use swat, but it's pretty loose. You can, you can sort of contrive a way to use it. And I think that that's being used as a weaponization. 00:07:34:20 --> 00:08:33:03 And, and I also think that there's pressure to use SWAT because there's a, there's budgets attached to it. If, if it's a tool you have and you're not using it, your budget gets cut. And then, and the FBI is also fond of, of bringing everything that it possibly can to bear. You know, we'd rather have it, not need it than need it not have it. So, so many times on these arrests you'll see, you know, 30 agents when four would suffice just because, you know, we, we want to have that, that resource available if it's there. And a lot of these agents are brand new, they're probationary agents and they have to check the box on certain things in order to be, you know, a alpha probation and a regular agent. And if you work in a skiff and you work in national security and counterintelligence, you're just not gonna have the opportunity to participate in a lot of arrests. So a lot of times when there is an arrest, a lot of these new folks jump all over it and they're just walking around with their blueray coat or their, their brand new kit and that, and that's why whenever I see these videos, you can tell who the new agents are because they have the brand new kits that have no dust on 'em or anything like that, hasn't been sitting in the back seat of a car for very long. 00:08:33:03 --> 00:09:13:24 Doug Truax: Right, right. It's like at the end of the football game when they bring everybody and it hasn't played all season, right. It's like, ah, let those, let those guys, they get on the field. Right. So, but that's, that's interesting. Yeah. Right. So that, but that's a great point. I mean, I, I, I remember this before all this politicization happened that it was part of, with the fbi, it's like they were, you guys were always good about not losing any agents, you know, and, and operations because of this concept right here, here just, you know, you got the stuff, bring it with you, make sure there's no situation where you feel outgunned or whatever else. And so, but that was all well and good when it was just like, Hey, they're going after the criminals and that's important. But then you get into this politicization thing and they keep doing this, what they're doing, it turns into it makes everybody really nervous, like, what are these guys up to? 00:09:13:24 --> 00:09:47:01 So it's, it's totally get the concept, but yeah, using it this way is, is is scary stuff. And I was gonna ask you too about, about the January 6th in general. So, you know, we're kind of watching things, looking as much video as we can and stuff, and you see, so you see people being let through barricades and people say, Hey, you know, come over this way and go in here. And then there's the Ray Eps thing, and I mean, what, what's your take on the actual day and, and what you know about it now and, and as, as your thinking changed, as time has gone on based on some new evidence that maybe you're seeing? 00:09:48:21 --> 00:10:32:14 Steve Friend: Well, I've had conversations with some people that who were there and, and really their, their futures in jeopardy and, and worse for people that were not even entering the building as we found out a week ago, there's gonna be another thousand cases coming forward from the doj. They're gonna charge folks that were standing on the lawn outside the capitol. And, and I think that releasing the 14,000 hours of surveillance footage and allowing essentially a, you know, we're gonna crowdsource watching that, I don't think any individual's gonna be able to sit down and watch it all. But, but I think that a lot of insight as to what went on that day will, will come out and, and certainly it's the people's house. We should have access to that. That's not a, a security issue. Nobody's under any delusions that the, the, the US Capitol is not under surveillance at all times from all angles. 00:10:33:06 --> 00:11:15:14 And, and in talking to folks, you know, who, who were there and, and got permission from police officers to walk in it, it's, it's definitely, it, it raises my, my spider senses quite a bit. You know, I was on the, the take down aspect of the Gretchen Whitmer case and, and I saw the Venn diagram of that case as it's come out with a lot of overlap with the January 6th case. So I, I think that, you know, sunlight is the best disinfectant. There needs to be radical transparency with this. If it's the largest and most important case in the history of the fbi, as leadership has continued to hammer home in the media, then, then the full show should be seen. We should pull the curtain back. America should see, you know, all the details of it so we can all, you know, inform an in intelligent and, and informed decision on that's what's right. We went on that day. 00:11:15:16 --> 00:11:42:12 Doug Truax: That's right. That's so true about so much of what's going on in our country. We just need transparency. You know, we're not gonna take anybody's word for it right now, it's just the time we're in, in this country. You just gotta lay it all out there, especially if you think it's that important, like what you just said. It's just, they gotta put it out there. So. Well, hey, you know, I, I can speak on behalf of our audience. Thank you so much for your bravery and your courage in doing this. I understand you're still technically with the fbi but not getting paid. Is that right? How's that working right now? 00:11:43:10 --> 00:12:16:13 Steve Friend: Yes. Technical, I'm indefinitely suspended. My security clearance was suspended. They're doing an investigation, which from what and speaking to my attorneys, it's basically a process where they drag it out as long as as possible in the hope that you'll resign. My security clearance was suspended for, for basically raising the alarm on January 6th. And then also they told me that I improperly accessed the employee handbook. So it's securing whistleblower protection laws by weaponizing the security clearance revocation process. So that's an whole nother issue for maybe the new upcoming church committee to look at. Yeah. When they, when they finally convene. 00:12:16:21 --> 00:12:38:07 Doug Truax: Yeah. Yeah. Well, like you said a minute ago too, it's gonna be, I think your role going forward is gonna be even more important because like we see what you said, there's a thousand people standing on the lawn on January 6th that they're gonna come after, so this is only gonna get worse going forward. So really appreciate what you're doing. Is there someplace we could go to like help fund your deal? Like is a website or anything you got working? 00:12:39:01 --> 00:13:16:06 Steve Friend: Yeah, right now, you know, I've, I've sort of pooled my, my intellectual resources with Kyle Serafin, who's the, who's the other outspoken FBI whistleblower and a few others who have been anonymous. And we have opened up a, a Gs send go for folks who want to contribute. And all those go to wi other whistleblowers, not myself, we're collecting. And that's Kyle Seraphins Gs Send go page and people can follow me on social media. I'm on Twitter at real, Steve Friend, I'm on through social at real underscore Steve Friend, but it looks like I might be shadow banned on Twitter, so you might have to go directly to my page to see the content. 00:13:16:11 --> 00:13:59:09 Doug Truax: Shocking. Shocking. Well, you know, I think that's so important. I, I bring that up with giving you some, getting, getting you and the other guys some money because you know, often in this world we're living in, it just does come down to you get canceled. They come after you, you take, they take away your livelihood, right? And that's, that's a brutal thing to go through with, you know, you got a family, you got all these things, we all have our responsibilities. So it's super important that if people are brave like you and great patriots love the country more than you love anything else at this point in terms of your career, you come forward. The rest of us have gotta step up and, and help you get through it, and there will be a better day. Because being on side of truth is always better than anything else, man. So appreciate all you're doing and you hang in there, Steve, and we'll keep watching. Okay? 00:14:00:04 --> 00:14:02:24 Steve Friend: I will won't give up the fight ever, ever. God bless you. 00:14:03:00 --> 00:14:17:08 Doug Truax: All right. God bless you. All right. That's our show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in and for supporting conservative media. Don't ever forget that by working together and staying diligent, we conservatives can bring our country back to true greatness. Until next week, let's all keep praying that God will continue to bless America 00:14:20:07 --> 00:14:40:20 First Right A new kind of new summary without the liberal slant Every morning in your inbox, always free subscribe by texting first right to 3 0 1 61. That's FIRSTRIGHT All caps one word to 3 0 1 61.

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