Meet Chicks on the Right, a Conservative Podcast Duo who Share Culture Insights and Common Sense
Chicks on the Right, a politically conservative duo known on the air as “Daisy” and “Mockarena,” speak about culture, parenting, and liberty. Visit their website and listen to their podcast here: https://chicksonright.com/
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[EWALT]: Welcome to the First Right podcast, a weekly conservative news show brought to you by Restoration of America. I'm your host Jerry Ewalt Chief Marketing Officer for Restoration of America. And today we are blessed to have a refreshing pair of guests known collectively as the Chicks on the Right. Their names are Amy Jo Clark, otherwise known as Daisy and Miriam Weaver, known as Mock. They have a freewheeling style that is not the norm in conservative politics and we are excited to hear their thoughts on a range of issues. Chicks welcome to the show.
[Clark]: Thanks. Hi. Thank you. Great to be here.
[EWALT]: It's great to have you on. So, so for the audience, if you can just explain who you are and how you got started and then I'll have some individual questions for each of you. But let's start with intros.
[Clark]: Okay. You want me to go first? Mary? I'm Amy Jo Clark, otherwise known as Daisy on the site. I'll make it short and sweet. You had mentioned that you were in corporate America for a long time. I actually have a background in medical and technical communications and I was an adjunct professor for a while and spent a long time in corporate America. That's how Miriam and I met. And then the idea came about for Chicks on the Right when we worked together in corporate America. And she is really good at telling that story and a reader's digest way. So I will let her kind of encapsulate that for us.
[Weaver]: Okay. And I'm Miriam Weaver, otherwise known as Mock on our website and all of our platforms. And I came from corporate America like Amy Jo said specifically recruiting and HR and benefits administration and all of that. And so at some point I hired Amy Jo to work at the same company and we became instant best friends. And that was shortly after discovering that. And, and this had nothing to do with the way that we met, but we had discovered that she and my husband grew up about seven houses away from each other in Atlanta, Georgia. And so just a hugely small world story. And after about four months or so of five months or so of working together in corporate America in the same company every single day during the summer of 2008 and forward, that was right when Obama got elected. And we found ourselves, even though we were not political beforehand, we found ourselves talking about nothing but politics. And she had this idea at the end of 2008 that maybe we should start a website and we did in February of 2009.
[EWALT]: And here we are. Daisy's best hire ever is what I just heard from you.
[Clark]: My, my best hire ever. Yeah, that's right. Not best, I guess, I guess. Or best hire. Yes. Yeah.
[EWALT]: Yeah. That's awesome. So, so tell me about the, so what is, what is Chicks on the right? What is it?
[Clark]: Oh my gosh. I I guess it's, gosh, how can we encapsulate that like a really quick, I've never been out like Anele. I know we've never really done the el the elevator speech for chicks on the right, but it's, it's, it's giving conservatism a makeover. We saw a need 14 years ago to sort of, not, I don't wanna say reinvent, but sort of rebrand conservatism cuz there are a lot of old white, stodgy dudes in conservatism in the Republican party. And we are not that. And so we knew that there were other women, other people, other people that didn't look like just white dudes that were like us, that were Republicans
[EWALT]: Like me. Yeah, no, yeah.
[Clark]: Well that were just, that were Republicans that didn't look like what the media portrayed Republicans as looking like. And so we were like, that's us. And so, and we were talking about it in a way that wasn't buttoned up and you know, very pundit-like. We were talking about it in a way that was like two chicks talking over chips and salsa at lunch and, and we wanted to, we wanted to talk about it in that way in a funny, fun, you know, more miniskirt, less three piece suit sort of way. And so that's how we start, that's how we approached it. And that, that's where Chicks on the Right was born.
[EWALT]: You're you're making me want to take my tie off, but I won't. You're welcome too. Loose it up. I love it. So I'm, I'm gonna go each individual here now. So, so Mary Jo, first question for you, you are known as Daisy. Why Daisy?
[Clark]: Well, we had to pick monikers cuz we knew we would probably get death threats, which we, we did. And so I, I just picked a daisy cuz that was my favorite flower at the time. And so I, it was just, and I have a tattoo of a daisy and so I thought I'll just pick Daisy cuz that sounds good. And so, and it, since then it stuck.
[EWALT]: Fair enough. But I do have a second question for you, for you Daisy. All right. So on your website you put in here that you used to believe that Chucky cheese was the direct portal of hell, but it is now certain that it's most definitely Twitter. Yeah. So you have to, first you have to explain why is Chucky cheese the portal of hell for, have
[Clark]: You ever been here? Have you been to Chucky cheese? Like seriously as a mom of three, like I've been to Chucky cheese several times for birthday parties and whatnot. And if you've never been to Chucky Cheese, you just spend a Saturday afternoon there and you'll understand what I mean by being the portal to hell. And then Twitter used to be the portal to hell. Like if you spent any time there, at least to me it was cuz the vitriol and the hatred and all the awfulness that is on, on Twitter. Although now I'm kind of enjoying it a little bit since Elon took over. It's kind of fun.
[EWALT]: That is such an interesting comparison, right. I I, you know, we're gonna talk a little bit about Gen Z in a bit, but they, the Gen Z have this video video game called Five Nights at Freddy's. I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's literally the animatronic version of Chucky cheese and they go out and they drag you to hell. So like, I think other people think this is true because there's a very popular video game on this and I know that cuz I have some Gen Z children at home. And so I think the analogy is great, but I guess there is a light at the end of the tunnel for Twitter is what you're, what you're saying right now.
[Clark]: Yes, yes, definitely. Awesome.
[EWALT]: All right. Mock over to you. I have to first know, and I'm probably gonna regret asking the question, but why do we call you Mock?
[Weaver]: Well, it's not that exciting of a story actually. I had a, a personal blog back in the mid two thousands, late two thousands that was dedicated to just mocking aspects of pop culture, celebrity culture, political culture. And I had, when I started it with some friends, I had asked my husband for help coming up with a, a, a pseudonym or a moniker and I said, I want it to be, I want it to be related to, to mocking pop culture. And he said, well how about Mock-arena? And I thought that is perfect cuz it kind of mixes the ridiculous song, the Macarena, with actual mocking. And so I, I took it and then like Daisy said her name did it just stuck.
[EWALT]: That is great. I love that story. That's fantastic. And I, I also looked at your bio and I, I can relate to this cuz I have a lacrosse player as well, but one of your sons plays lacrosse, he's funny. He's impossibly handsome teen who mercifully has avoided being indoctrinated so far in the public school system and has a solidly conservative head on his shoulders. I mean, that's truly amazing and I guess he would attribute all of that to lacrosse.
[Weaver]: Well I think team sports certainly is a great thing for kids to participate in. I don't think it was the lacrosse that made him conservative as much as it is him just, you know, by osmosis being in the same household as me hearing our, my show with Daisy every single morning whether he wants to or not. And then often my husband and our, our conversations lean towards politics quite a bit because we talk about that over dinner besides, you know, lacrosse and what our kids doing in school. So I think it was just really easy to make sure, particularly in light of the fact that now there's so much of a spotlight on schools and how they do indoctrinate. It was hyper on our minds to make sure that he was not subject to that. So we basically just made sure to tell him, you're going to hear buzz words like this, like critical race theory, like, you know, whatever all the buzzwords are, you need to know that there's another side. And so when you hear those buzzwords, a we wanna know about it and b we're gonna tell you what the other side of the coin is. So it's been good so far.
[EWALT]: Yeah, I love that. It sounds a lot like my family. They, my kids also play lacrosse and they hear a lot of conversations from my wife and I on these, these topics. So I I can, I can definitely relate. Fantastic. Well let's get, let's get into the interview and I, you guys did a fantastic podcast just recently that talked about the midterms and the effect that Gen Z had on the midterms. So I'd love to hear just maybe a little bit of a snippet of that. Like what, what happened in the midterms and how did the Gen z that generation have such an impact on the, on the outcomes?
[Clark]: Well the, the left has had a strong hold on the culture for years. We've seen it for 14 years and I, we, you know, so many people leading up to the midterms were saying, oh, we got this in the bag, it's gonna be red wave, it's gonna be a tsunami and mostly mock. I, it's weird cause usually she's the one that's Miss positive pants, but leading, but leading up to the midterm, she was like, I don't feel good about this. I just don't, I'm not sure about this. I don't have a good feeling. And, you know, she was right and we were both a little bit more negative than a lot of the other pundits out there and we just weren't, cuz we've seen it in the past, you know, we've seen people on our side get so gung-ho about an election and then, you know, it just didn't turn out the way that we thought it was gonna turn out.
[Clark]: And this was no exception. It's, and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they have got such a stronghold on our young people. It's the young people, you know, this one, Obama did it and it's when we first started 14 years ago, it's precisely why we started our site is because it's like this, this trance that they have young people under. And it's because they have pop culture, they have social media, they do all the things that they, that they, they know where the young people live and they do it so well. And we frankly have really stunk at it for a very long time. And it's like we're not doing it better even after 14 years. And it's really discouraging for a lot of us cuz we're like, ugh, can you not learn? You know, like watch, look at history and don't repeat it, you know, when we're not doing well make sure that you do that better and we're not doing it maybe just a tiny bit but not, not nearly as good as we should be doing it. And we've gotta do better. We have to, it's imperative that we do better in those realms.
[Weaver]: And I would just add too, that one of the problems that I, I see this a lot in our own audience, right? So anytime that Amy Jo and I focus any attention whatsoever on celebrity news or gossip or pop culture or things that conservatives tend to snub their noses at, the problem is is that they remove themselves from the culture by poo pooing it essentially. They'll decide, I'm too good for that. I don't wanna know anything about these people. These people are horrible. So instead of knowing they ignore it. And that is why, that's what I think contributed to this idea by so many people that there would be a red wave cuz they're not seeing day to day the stuff that I'm seeing on liberal TikTok on social media platforms that are overwhelmingly, you know, based on young people and what they're doing, we're paying attention to that.
[Weaver]: And so I i I don't think you can have a head in the sand attitude about it. I think that gets us into a lot of trouble.
[Clark]: Right. And I think that's why the daily, the daily wires of the world are doing such a great thing by, by jumping head first into pop culture and creating content. Cuz they're like, we have to become part of it. Andrew Breitbart wanted to do that back in the day. He was a big proponent of that. It's like, we have to take it over. You can't just shun it, you can't just say that it doesn't exist because you know, you hate Kim Kardashian, which we hate, we hate her too. You know? But you have, but the thing is that you have to jump headfirst into that, that area. You know, you can't just say, oh, it doesn't exist, we hate it, so we're just not gonna pay attention to it. Those entities have a grasp on your kids. Yeah. Your kids know who the Kardashians are, so you have to know about it too. And you have to talk about it. We do.
[EWALT]: Yeah. Mock, I actually thought you were gonna say just play more lacrosse, it would be fine, but obviously that's not the case. So that that was actually, your, your explanations was perfect. Right? What you're saying is you can't ignore it. Right? This is the culture, these generat this generation cares about the culture a lot more than they probably care about politics. So when you start to see, and I, my mind keeps going back to the midterms and, and we saw a lot of the Democrats running for office doing these really embarrassing TikTok videos that was going viral. And I'm like, that is so embarrassing. But I realize like, it wasn't that, you know, the, the, the generation, generation Z probably looked at and said, this is fantastic, right? That's what Kim Kardashian does or whatever, take your pick. And they, they were able to connect. So then how do conservatives connect with Gen Z or these young people? How do they connect with then
[Weaver]: They have to beat them at their own game. Right?
[Clark]: Right. They do have to be them. And also, you know, one of the things that I've noticed too is, you know, I'm involved a little bit more in Texas politics here and I notice that when I look around, when I go to meetings and stuff like that, there are no young people. It's all older, older people. I'll sit in the back of the room and it, it breaks my heart because there are no young people where I know, I'm pretty positive that if I went to, you know, one of the democrat political meetings here in town, there would be more young people. And so one of the things we have to do as parents, as grandparents, as aunts, uncles, whatever, we have to start getting more young people involved in local politics. We have to, it's, I mean, it's just a must because old people die. You know what I mean? It's like we have got, we have gotta get these kids more involved and understanding of, okay, come to these meetings with me, start understanding how the process works. Just small town politics and then state politics, they just, we are a dying breed. And that concerns me. And so it's, it's our responsibility as older people to get these kids because it's not like they learn civics at school, you know, and they're not learning it from Kim Kardash Kardashian. They learn it from parents, they learn it from aunts, uncles, grandparent, whatever, from sisters brothers that. So we have to do that. We have to teach them and we gotta drag them to some of the stuff and help them have fun and make sure that as people who are involved in local politics or whatever, to make some of the stuff more fun for kids for, you know,.
[Weaver]: It reminds me, it reminds me a little bit about, I mean, do you guys remember we're, I mean we're at least close enough in age, I think all three of us that we can remember when we learned about how a bill gets passed through like the school of, like the school rock, what was it? Schoolhouse Rock, school
[EWALT]: Of Rock,
[Clark]: Right? And so I think about how innovative that was at the time, but now when we have all these different social media platforms there, it can, you can make civics and you can make conservatism fun. It just takes creative people to, to reach out in ways that resonate with today's youth, where they are, which is on the social media platforms. Yep, yep, yep.
[EWALT]: Yeah. And how, how have you guys done it? Cause I mean, look, I, I'm, I'm, I'm having a blast here interviewing you guys and you're definitely fun, right? So this isn't a very slow type of interview. Have you guys, is your audience, do you have young people tuning into you guys? How, how does that work?
[Clark]: We do, and I'd say we have some young, we do. We get the young people. In fact, we get parents who will have their kids. We, we will be inappropriate sometimes. Sometimes we'll be like, oh my gosh, we're so sorry we said that in front of your kid. You know? Cause I've got a 12 year old and then older kids and then Mock has, you know, a kid in high school. So I mean we're, we can be somewhat inappropriate, but, but they still will bring like their teenage kids to come see us whenever we do meet and greets. Or they'll have, they'll invite them to watch our show because our, our show is fun. We try to make sure that, cuz one of the big things that we always have said that we wanna do is make our content engaging and fun. And so, because politics can be a big downer sometimes, especially a lot of the stuff that goes on in the world, it can be not so fun.
[Clark]: And so we try to make it, we try to make the content as engaging and fun as possible so people have a good time and they feel like they have a sense of camaraderie with people who are there listening to the content. And so I think teenagers and college age students and 20 somethings, they like that they, they're like, okay, well this is cool. They're like my cool aunts, my cool older aunts is how they see us, right? And so we get that a lot. And so they feel engaged with the community. And I, and I think that, you know, we're starting to get more and more young people. Don't you think, Mary? Don't you think?
[Weaver]: I think so. I mean, I, I, you know, it's, it's certainly not a secret. I don't think that most of our audience tends to be in that 40 plus age group, right? Because that's where we are, that's where we live. And I think a lot of our audience sees us as friends. And so, you know, they relate to us because we all, you know, we're going through the same things. We've got kids around the same age and that kind of thing, right? But I think, I think what we do differently than a lot of other political shows is that we keep it very, very conversational and not at all about a lecture. And we try to make things, even when we're talking about really tough issues that negatively impact us all, we try to always end on a positive note. We try to bring humor and levity to every single show because we don't want people to feel just completely mired in yuck. You know? And it's very easy to do that in the world right now. Very easy, right?
[Clark]: Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's just very conver, it's just very conversational. And I think kids can relate to that. Kids feel like they're sitting down. It's like we've always said, we want it to feel like you're sitting down and having a conversation at lunch and, you know, kids, teenagers, 20 somethings, they can relate to that. They just feel like they're, it's more you're talking with them and not to them, if that makes sense,
[EWALT]: Right? They wanna be treated as an adult. They don't want you lecturing to them. And so having to have the conversation. So it's, it's a great lead in then to the next question, right? Because there are a lot of serious issues out there, right? So, you know, I, I'm, I'm famous in my family for running around talking about, you know, the world's on fire, we gotta stop this immediately, right? That sense of urgency. And sometimes it's overwhelming, right? So, so when we have things that are happening, let's call it the post-truth movement, right? Where we have transgenderism, we have cri, critical race theory, even all this climate hysteria, and you can probably name a bunch more. These are all serious topics that are having impacts on Americans' lives today. How do we frame that up so that we can work with the youth so that they truly understand the impact of that stuff and what it's having on, on their future.
[Clark]: Huh? It's heavy, you know,
[EWALT]: See I did it. I went, I went to the heavy area. Exactly.
[Clark]: That's heavy. I mean a lot of it is just good parenting, right? It's just day to day, you know, consistent parenting. Cuz that's a lot of what I like. I have time in my car with my 12 year old every single day. Cause we do a lot of driving here in Texas, cuz Texas is a big state. We are in the car a lot. And so I just spend a lot of my time in the car. We just talk about a lot of issues, like what's going on with her, what's going on with her friends, what's going on with the world? What's that? And it's just a lot of discussion time and it's just time because, you know, you can't put a lot of heavy stuff on a 12 year old. But, but that, that it's just, just open dialogue, constant open dialogue. I think that's what's so important. And a lot of kids nowadays are just so heads down in their phones and a lot of parents are too, frankly. And so I think it's just good old fashioned communication to keep that dialogue open and talking to them about what is going on in the world, what does that mean to us as a family? What does that mean to you as a person who is growing up in this world? And what, what is it gonna mean to you in five to 10 years? You know? And just not anything that's scary, but just making sure that they understand the ramifications of things that happen in the world around them.
[Weaver]: And I think a really good way to do that is to mock what mock the absurd, right? And so, so much of the narrative that is so carefully manipulated by the left is, is it's all about shaping the narrative. And I think the more that, that we can mock fun of, make fun of it, and show the absurdity on in a way that kids are like, oh my God, that's really dumb that Greta Thunberg is out there screeching about capitalism using her, her iPhone, you know what I mean? Like whatever it is, we have to be able to show kids that are paying attention to other kids what the other side is. And we can do that in a way that really shows the absurdity of the left. Because so much of what they're complaining about and trying to shape is so ridiculous.
[Clark]: All of it is so ridiculous. Yeah. And that absurdity is not pointed out in the media. We have to point it out. Yeah. You know, parents have to point it out. And older pe they we're, they're counting on us to point it out because, you know, Lord knows nickelodeon's not gonna do it. You know,
[EWALT]: Def definitely not. Yeah, no, I, I, so, you know, to summarize, you know, dialog, right? Treating them as adults, dialoguing with them, but, but also introducing some humor into that, right? So calling out that hypocrisy in a way that kind of gets that reaction, that emotion out of them so that they can see what's actually going on and what's happening in the world around them,
[Clark]: Right? Absolutely. Exactly. Yep.
[EWALT]: Now how, last question. So how, how do you help your audience find truth, right? Because it's, it's very difficult in the mainstream media. It's, there's such a bias and, and, and we catch them lying all the time and they just push it to the side and they move on to the next narrative. How do you help your audience find sources of truth? Yeah.
[Clark]: How do we help them find truth? I mean, I, we're just, I don't know. I think we, yeah, go for it, Miriam.
[Weaver]: Well, I know my rule of thumb is that if I see a story or a headline, right? Like on Twitter, this actually happened today where I saw someone that I follow a fellow conservative post, a photo of a headline that was written by Titanium McGrath and their reaction was to be like, completely, you know, to mock the headline, to just show the stupidity of the left. I don't even remember what the headline was now, but Titanium McGrath is a very popular satirist. So she and who, and it's really a character created by a man. She wrote something so absurd that it, to make fun of the left, but it also is so similar to what the left already says, that people just think, oh yeah, that's just another crazy take by the left. So what I always tell people is, check your sources, right? Like, if you think if you, if you see something that's truly outrageous, double check to other sources, at least two other sources that you trust, whether it's, you wanna see if Fox is carrying it and CNN is carrying it. And so, and I always recommend that people look at all sides. Like, if you're hearing something from Fox News, go look for that story on MSNBC and I bet you the truth is somewhere in the middle.
[Clark]: Yeah. And don't, and don't check it. Whatever you do not check in on Snopes because that's like, that's like two people with like their cats, you know? Don't do that.
[EWALT]: Well, and I, I think that's, that's important that you mentioned that, right? Because it's, we always talk about the left having a narrative and agenda and so on and so forth, but the right can get sucked into that too. So you wanna make sure that people are holding each side accountable regardless of what side you, you lean towards. You gotta hold 'em accountable and, and make sure you double check the facts and, and make up your own mind. That's a critical thinking skill that seems to be lacking in our culture today. Oh my
[Clark]: God. Yeah. And then teach and teach your kids how to think critically. Like don't just take things at face value and question everything. Question your teachers question, your parents question everything. That's right. You know,
[EWALT]: It's okay. Wait, wait a minute. It's question your parents. No,
[Clark]: I'm good. It's ok, it's OK to do that, but I mean, but make sure you do the right research, you know, it's okay for sure to question for sure. Yeah.
[EWALT]: Well, well this is, this has been great. I really love what the two of you're doing. I mean, what, what an inspiration too, right? So working in corporate America then leaving and starting your own podcasts and now you have the Chicks empire coming up here. So how, how do we send more people to, to, to see, hear your great words of wisdom?
[Clark]: Our website, first of all, chicks on the right.com, right Mary?
[Weaver]: Yes, absolutely. And then of course we're on all the socials at Chicks On right on Twitter, parlor Getter, truth social Rumble, YouTube, I mean, anywhere that you can, anywhere there's a social media platform, chances are, we're on it with the exception of Telegram and Gab, I think are the ones that we're not on. But everywhere else you can find us at Chicks on Right. Yes.
[EWALT]: That's great. All right, well thank you so much for joining today. It was a pleasure meeting you and talking with you.
[Clark]: It was great for having us.
[EWALT]: Yeah. We'll have to have you out again. You guys are hilarious. I love it
[Clark]: First. Sure. We loved it. Thank you. Good.
[EWALT]: Thank you. Good. All right. Have a good day. Merry Christmas. You too.
[Clark]: You too. Merry Christmas. You
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