Why you should shame Christians YouTubers who ask for money
What is the best evidence that christian YouTubers have a right to ask for donations for their ministry? In other words what does the Bible say about christian YouTubers asking for your money to pay their bills so they dont have to go labor to support themselves, so they can devote themselves more fully to making more videos to help you and others.
1 Corinthian 9:11
“If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more?
“Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.”
Therefore christian YouTubers who spread the gospel have a command to get paid doing so.
Open and shut case, If that were all the Holy Spirit had the apostle Paul write on the matter.
But it was not. If we look at The apostles Pauls words inbetween and after those conclusive phrases, they should cause some hesitation to the conclusion that youtube christians have like a divine right of kings taking taxes from their loyal subjects
christian YouTubers have a divine right to get paid from the people the get to pay attention to them
These are the words that might cause the hesitation they come from inbetween & after the justification for people preaching the gospel should receive their living from the gospel
Back to
1 Corinthians 9
“If we sowed spiritual things in you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? If others share the right over you, do we not more? Nevertheless, we did not use this right, but we endure all things so that we will cause no hindrance to the gospel of Christ.”
If a christian YouTuber says im preaching the gospel and thus commanded to earn my living in doing so, ask them how come the apostle paul who wrote those words did not earn his living from just preaching? was paul in sin for refusing to do so?
Do christian YouTube’s have more important things to preach then the apostle paul? If the apostle paul was able to work to support himself in addition to preaching & teaching for free why can‘t Christian YouTubers? Maybe their ministry is more important than the apostle Paul’s?
Silly me I forgot the book of acts teaches it is right for the more important christians to ditch physical serving like waiting on tables to focus on the word.
In. Acts 6 the 12 apostles took the easy way out & decided to ditch serving tables to work on ministry of the word,
So if the 12 apostles ditched beneath them labor to focus on the word ministry so should christian YouTubers.
Later on in the book of acts paul had to rebuke peter for refusing to eat with gentiles, so not everything the 12 apostles did in the book of acts was right.
Jesus told the 12 this
In mark 10:42
You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles Lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve
But the apostles quickly chose they were above serving tables. I’m not sure they made the right choice. The Book of Acts tells us what they did, not necessarily that it was right.
their justification to get out of serving tables was so they could devote their time & energy of ministering the word.
yet who did God have pen most of the books of the New Testament. Not any of the 12 apostles but the apostle Paul
Paul on purpose broke the command that you most earn your living from preaching the gospel, unless u want to argue that paul is a bad example keeping in mind the Holy Spirit inspired the apostle paul to write immate me.
so why would christian YouTubers do the opposite of paul and seek to be paid to preach
if Christian youtubers didn’t have to waste time & energy on regular job to pay their bills, they could have more time & energy to preach, if their ministry took in enough money they could now hire people to edit and help spread their videos.
It makes sense to me. But I’m hesitant to fully agree when I see the apostle did not agree and did not adopt this mindsight, and lets just reread Paul’s own words
in preaching the gospel I may offer it free of charge, and so not make full use of my rights as a preacher of the gospel. Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.”
The apostle paul did not ask the people he was teaching to pay his bills and neither should christian youtubers
Teaching gods words isnt something Paul did instead of labor
its something he did in addition to
Why would it be right
what paul told us for free,
we now pay someone
to retell
us for a fee
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Christian Nationalism is closer to idolatry than ideal @AD
Christian nationalism is a Joel Osten message with a less of smile and therefore should be taken more seriously but it’s just as worldly
The verse for it aren’t that good
There are lot of verses to be concerned with doing it.
Im making this on the eve of the 2022 midterm elections
this is arguably the Stupidist time not to hop a ride the Christian natioalist bang wagon
If you’re a Christian nationalist, Or leaning that way, i am not here to tell you to vote left, i probably vote the same right way as you everytime & I don’t foresee myself ever not voting as right as i can
I see christian nationalist say they are only critiques from thr left or from liberals i am not a liberal or progressive
You might think liberals wont toughen up to the true gosple but i think you wont toughen up to the real message and thats once you proclaim Jesus Christ as lord its a death sentence where I see the christian nationalism crowd as
Thinking proclaiming the gospel is just an alternative lifestyle choice
Probably where we differ the most, is I take it literally when Jesus says don’t try to save you life in this world, that he means it’s a death sentence like he actually died, what i’m accusing you is taking losing your life to only be it’s a high minded abstraction alternative lifestyle choice, that you are no threat of literally dying just you volunteerily stop only living to sin & for the flesh.
1 John 5:19-21
If Paul & John write that the devil rules the world & blinds the minds of unbelivers it’s hard to see the utility in setting up a booth in the devils crooked carnival & thinking he’s going to let you stay long. The devil had Jesus killed, Peter & Paul & if the christian history is correct all the apostles except for John were killed. It’s one thing to go evangelize at the devil’s carnival, to be on the move like Jesus or later paul but to think you can sit put set up a government seems to be out of step with Jesus & the apostles.
Jesus did not tell his his diciples they would be successful in getting everyone to believe and obey his commands, didn’t he say something like the road is narrow & few find it? Jesus did not tell his diciples to run for public office, or start mega corruptions, or start their own island nation. Jesus never said you will get everyone in the world to obey me, then I will come back and say great job with the world, you guys got it all swept & clean & polished, now lets all have a great eternal life. Every foretelling of Jesus’s return to earth, is he’s not happy with the state of the world, & he’s coming back to crush the beast ruling it.
Even if you argue, the founding of America as your crown jewel example. If Romans 13 means all government is of god & to never rebel, than the George Washing really messed up by rebelling against England. If You’re not to rebel & all government is on it’s face the authority established by God, than you should be content with whatever political party is in the White House, or the house or the senate. You should not oppose North Korean or Chinese or any Islamic Government authority which outlaws or persecutes or kills christians since they are the authority esatablished by God, to rebel against them is to rebel against God.
Of coarse I have a lot of problems with Romans 13, I think it’s more complicated than straight forward all governments are always good, and they only attack the bad. Because Jesus, Peter, & Paul, where killed by the Roman Government which was bad. The mark of the beast will be bad. The mark of the beast system will kill those who refuse to accept it, refusing it is good. You get 1000 years to regign with christ in the millennium kingdom on earth.
I bring up Romans 13 because i heard that as one of the key arguments for Christian Nationalism, & I think it’s not good reason to desire to take over politics.
1 Peter 2:18-21 NIV
Peter says honor the emperor, submit yourselves to your masters the good & the bad. Peter was most likely killed by the emperor.
If Roman 13 means all governments are good, & to always obey then why are you worried who runs the us government? Who ever it is, it’s god ordained & to oppose them would be to oppose God. I say that to show you, you can’t take a lazy copy & paste approach to that verse to show god approves of all governments & therefore Christians should aspire to work in the government. If anything Romans 13 is sign to stay away or out of governments, or don’t worry about it.
When Paul talked to government officials he never asked for a job, or gave them advice on how to rule, he instead tried to persuade them of the gospel, & we should follow his example.
Philippians 3:13-21
Colossians 3:1-4
1 john 2:15-17
James 4:3
Matthew 6:19-21 /25:34
John 12:25-26
Matthew 10:38-39
Matthew 16:23-27
Luke 9:57-62
The end of Matthew is not the only side of the story we get about Jesus’s giving his final instructions. In The beggining the books of acts
Acts 1:7-8 NIV
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how can Jesus’s arrival be at the end of the millennium? @Canon Press
The post millennium view states Jesus comes back after the millennium
The verse that most clearly talks about the millennium is this
Revelation 20:4 NIV
“I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”
The millennium can’t happen until
1 the mark of the beast system is up & running,
2 people are dying for not taking it,
3 Jesus returns defeating the beast,the false prophet & their Armies.
4 And then Jesus resurrects those who died refusining the mark of the beast. & they reign with him,
The millennium can not even begin until Jesus is on earth so it is impossible that Jesus returns only at the end of it. Thus post millennium makes zero cents. It’s like a cheeseburger, with out any cheese.
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Reacting to Andrew Tate talks Alex Jones @Rob Moore
There will be a novel argument but first agreement.
Andrew Tate said was asked about alex jones, & i agree with everything Andrew Tate said to Rob Moore about alex.
Andrew ended his points about alex that alex is in the second stage, of how the elites deal with a problematic person, tying you up in legal matters, & the third stage is death.
Where I differ from Tate here, is just a hypothetical. I have no evidence of what I’m saying. What if alex isn’t just being neutralized by the elites, and being an example to others who would speak out against them, while that most likely is true, what if God is turning something meant for evil to use for some good. Like Joesph with multi colored coat being sold into slavery by his envious brothers. Not that God is going to use alex, to go all the way to the Supreme Court to win a historic free speech decision. But god is trying to get Alex to discipline Alex. To get him to re-examine some his beliefs. What if God is trying to get Alex to repent. That Alex was wrong thinking The answer to 1984 is 1776. That’s wrong. Worse Alex has used his gifts to spread this message, & Jesus wants him to Alex to know the answer to the mark of the beast that is coming, the beast that will wage war against the saints and overcome them, no amount of supples from the the infowars store will help you survive. Our savior isn’t Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Alex Jones, Donald trump, or Ron desantis but jesus on a white horse descending from the clouds with sword coming out of his mouth. There is no shame in being killed by the beast, there is a great 1000 year reward for willing refusing to worship the beast, & being beheaded for it. Sandyhook was Alex’s biggest tactical mistake, but his biggest stragetical mistake was thinking Christian’s could ovecomer the beast, all that said I have learned more from alex than many pastors or teachers & who tip toe around how evil the Bible says the world is, i think alex was trying to expose it & i have nothing but support for him doing that, but I think he overstepped by thinking he could or should do more than that.
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concern about @Marcus Rogers recent messages
Marcus Asked for help to sue instragram but this is the best help i could come up with if he were ever to see this,
I know you get alot of attack and you might dismiss this as attack from a gummy bear christian trying to tame your spiritual side and put you in denomination box
What i have liked from watching you is, is when you do come out boldly against gummy bear christians, or christians who are politically correct, who it looks like they’re just trying to game the algorithm to hustle money and make christian lite content as alternative to getting a secular Job, but they leave out the spirit of God, that when someone actually puts the card on the table that it leads to persecution, if they have no cross to on their back, can anyone take them seriously?
I also like that you draw peoples attention to this is the ends times, whether it is or not for another 100 years, it doesn’t matter, the only view you can have from the Bible is all christians regardless of when they lived, from the time the apostles till now, should always have lived as though Jesus could return like theif that night..
I like seeing that you don’t just make videos, and talk, but to see your walk, what you have done getting fire house going, and that you minister & deliver people in person.
Those are some things I like about what you are doing.
What I want to caution you about is several things in a row, that I heard from you recently. Since you got back from you social media fast.
I’m list them all now then address them individually
The call to kayne that god wants to be a prophet,
The announcement that you might appear to be prideful for now on, but so what
The annoucement that you want a bigger building and you want to have these businesses that can have their own island economy,
Wanting to sue instragram
About kayne. I think Ye’s taking a lot of steps in the right direction, and I’m glad to see how he is willing carrying a cross, and getting more vocal about views he knows would cost him. I hope Kayne keeps going.
What about does concern me, is the book of James chap 2 says we
I’m not saying you were only showing favoritism to Kayne and that you aren’t helping the poor, but i think telling kayne god wants to use you as mega prophet, more than a some obsecure Christian is not right. I don’t think god would use a celebrity more than someone who has been overlooked by the world.
The other thing with kayne, is although he is making some right steps, much more than he was 10 years ago, it seems like he isn’t sold on the idea that he can’t love this life, or fix this world, that his hope is even 90 percent in jesus coming back to right the world, but kayne thinks if he implements bibical principals he can save the world. So that disqualifies him as being useful for god, if he ignores all the verses about
Colossians 3:1
The announcement that you might appear to be prideful for now on, but so what David probably was proud that’s not a good attitude or excuse.
I am not all criquing when you get into the spirit or when you get firey about worldness & sin
1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 NIV
I am just concerned if you get into even a seemingly prideful spirit, not just for you but Don’t give those who oppose you easy ammo by going Marcus is way off he’s even know excusing his open pride.
Because you should as paul wrote to Titus
“sound in speech which is beyond reproach, so that the opponent will be put to shame, having nothing bad to say about us.”
I can read many verses about pride & humility but this one sums it up
James 4:6.
What concerns about you declaring the Abraham decree over the bigger building you want, even though you want it for good intentions is this.
i think it could become an idol or a distraction to you getting people ready for the terrrible end times, that instead of focusing on the
Titus 2:12
Even if you got this building, & you do good with it, & that i hope that you do, I would caution that you don’t think that building or even bigger building could shelter you & the people you minister to from the beast
Revelation 13:5-10, 15-17 NIV
No getting around it, the world only gets worse for christians, there will be no safe haven, nor should we seek it, if we’re beheaded for not worshipping the beast the good news is we get to live 1000 years with jesus during the millennium kingdom. if you hype people up to weather a storm, that they not going to able to, nor should they want to, that it could cause more of them to loose faith when things only worse, and worse, and they are more tempted to take the mark, because they trust the voice of jesus less & less.
No suing Instragram. i get the wanting to bring attention to people who are using you likeness to scam people, but I could care less how many followers you have or subscribers. I don’t care about how many people like you message, I just want you to get back on the true message in boldness.
Philippians 3
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Reacting to @Antonio Brown @Valuetainment heated interview
clear example of someone being ruled by the devil. Pointing at the fault of everyone, and everything else while claiming no sin, and I’m of the light.
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eternal life sounds terribly boring
I hope it’s really boring and repetitive. Like Being mind controlled to worship god, and just repeating non stop how great he is.
In the new earth which Jesus & the father well dwell with us, if we could imagine how good it is, it wouldn’t be right.
Paul wrote “what eye has not seen, and ear has not heard, and what has not entered the human heart what God has prepared for those who love him.”
1 Corinthians 2:9
It would be like having the best time of your life, & hoping it never ends.
God will not be as imaginary as the atheist pretend.
Revelation 21:
God will live with us, wipe away every tear, no more death or mourning, wailing or pain.
It will be a giant petting zoo too. Every creature will just eat all the carbs they want.
Isaiah 11:6-8 Then the wolf shall be a guest of the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat
The calf and the young lion shall browse together, with a little child to guide them, The cow and the bear shall graze together their young shall lie down; the lion shall eat hay like the ox. The baby shall play by the viper’s den and the child lay his hand on the adder’s lair.
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God forbids free thought, or just evil thoughts?
Christopher hitches said god is like celestial North Korea dictator, or like big brother,
Other atheist will complain about god being so controlling or restricting on their freedom?
feel the boxed in pressure of this controlling prison warden god, who is watching everything we do, & wants us to obey his commands,
Makes me wonder what Are things you get upset that god forbids,
Is it being prideful
Not being humble
Being mean?
Gossiping
Lying
Greedy
Anger, that’s hard i want to be able to kick my dog is peace and not have to worry about how god is get revenge on me for punting my dog across the room,
To show even more that god is not agaisnt free thought consider this
Philippians 4:8
“Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.”
So you can have free thought just, not about evil things, but if it’s true, right, pure lovely, excellent God say dwell on that. Freedom in christ, just not to use your freedom for selfish lust. That’s whole rabbit trail would be the hardest commandments even for belivers struggle with that about lust that they try to say is love. Most would agree murder, theft are out right wrong but if were the devil I’d try to pry your souls open with the sin that’s on the surface the hardest to see the trouble underneath the ice. two consenting adults or more. Is adultty if they are in an open relationship its love how is that wrong
That would be whole separate complicated topic.
Or multiple topics.
I don’t know why i brought it up or didnt delete it in the editing
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The apostle John contradicts himself with loving the world
Does the apostle John contradict himself about love & the world?
In the gospel of John, chapter 3, he writes God so loved the world
In his first letter, second chapter verse 15, he writes do not love the world.
How can God love the world, but if you do, the love of the father is not in you. Why did God so love the world he sent his son to save the world, but we can’t love the world?
In the gospel of John, the word world, means people. God loves the people of the world.
In the letter of John, the word world, means stuff. God doesn’t want us to love the temporary stuff of the world. If God wants us to love even our enemies I think it’s safe to love the people of the world. John did not intend to write do not love the people of the world, just do not love the stuff of the world, which would by in agreement with Jesus, saying where your treasure is, your heart is. If you love stuff, stuff will perish, people can have eternal life.
““For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.”
John 3:16-17 NASB1995
https://bible.com/bible/100/jhn.3.16-17.NASB1995
“Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.”
1 John 2:15-17 NASB1995
https://bible.com/bible/100/1jn.2.15-17.NASB1995
loving the world makes you an enemy of God, but Jesus said love even your enemies
Before I got confused about hearing the phrase don’t love the world, or I’d be an enemy of God. But we were to love our enemies? I thought or was incorrectly taught James 4:4 verse means you have to be willing to be a little mean, to let the world know you don’t love it.
I think James 4:4 is talking about not loving the things of this world, the pleasures. James is not talking about not loving the people. The word world is the confusing part. Got loved the world that he gave his son to die for it. Of coarse God wants us to be loving to the people of the world, but resist the temptations of the world. To not place our worship in the things of the world, rather than God who is not on our world currently in bodily form.
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God is worse than Big Brother
Bible says Jesus wants to be your brother.
Athiest say , god is worse than big brother.
Doing everything this petty, insecure, control freak wants would be more tortourus than the lake of fire, no escaping this self obsessed naracisst who just wants obeying groupies, who willing either are mind controled or pretend to be zombies out of fear of his abuse.
God is worse then big brother from 1984 because he wants to break you down forever, that you willing love his nonsense, and say 2 plus 2 equals 5, and sure Jesus can walk on water, and feed 5000 people with 5 fishes, and of coars god is loving and merciful even though he planned on barbecuing most people who wouldn’t go along with saying how much they loved big brother and his mustache
Who wants to woship this guy no matter how attractive that all sounds forever, how egotisgal is he & how boring does that sound. God will either torture forever in the lake of fire, or torture you by having to be his Stockholm syndrome prisoner in his new earth.
God is not big brother, he is letting people mock him, and curse him, and he is remaining silent, and letting you speak against him. He is going to let you kill his people who do try to be loyal to him, and won’t take the mark of your beast. All the things god wants us to do that the atheist cries fowl over, is to be kind to others, to be greatful to god for giving us the gift of life. Adam & Eve walked with God & there was no hiding until they sinned. When jesus was asked what’s the most important commandment, Jesus did say first love god, that’s it, only god matters, no he followed it up with second love your neighbor as yourself. So God doesn’t just want all the love, he wants us to also all love each other, how is that awful and evil. That is not Godt trying to damn up all the love to himself, but making sure the current of love flows out to everyone.
If you take god up on eternal life, it’s in the new earth, were the Bible says God will put your face in a cage with Hungary rats, and if you disobey him, he’ll open the door separating the Hungary rats to eat your face, no the Bible says God will wipe away all your tears, their will be no more death or mourning, wailing or pain, God will be our dad, and Jesus our brother and friend.
If we are friends and siblings i don’t think we will be hands and knees worship ing but acting like friends and family.
God could have said he most valued in his family strength, intelligence, or skill, but God chose that what he values most from his kids is for them to be loving.
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