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Jared and Chris Review Jordan Peterson's call for Christian churches to reach out to young men, we talk about some disagreeableness and then we get to taking a closer look at an exmo life coach.

Flip, Jared and Chris finish up reviewing divinity school gnostics and some of their views and ours on Peterson, Harris, Islam, Mormonism and Huwhite Evangelicals. I apologize again for the language and crassness. We ran long and got tired and annoyed.

Jared, Flip, and Chris review Tik Tok theology. Again, this one is a bit R rated in language and themes.

Jared and Chris and later Flip go over the strange workings of some Divinity Skool scholarly academic super scholars and their modernizations and postmodernizations of Mormonism. Deconstucting in house deconsrtructors. This is actually deconstruction, not weird exmormon definition. This will probably be 3 parts and it should be much much more. I'll add in links and timestamps if I leave it up. I apologize that this episode is more salty and R rated than most.

Kevan and Chris discuss agency surrounding some videos released by Bednar some years ago and Mormon Stories this week about the LDS claims around agency. We cover the Midnight Mormons saying "atheism is stupid," the logos, moral axioms, atheistic solidarity with christianity, collective spirit and egregores, tyranny and safety as well. Links Thinker of Thoughts - Elder Bednar: Mormon Moral Agency - You Are Not Free To Do What You Want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmErOV9oQZ8 Mormon Stories Podcast – Mormon Church Telling Young Men They No Longer Have a Choice About Serving Missions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiknvBvVRG8 New Discourses - The Process of Marxist Consciousness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cAo41pQFd4 Benjamin Boyce - Is U.S. Headed to National Divorce? | with King Crockoduck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttanrCiFsIQ Benjamin Boyce - Liberal World Disorder | with Auron MacIntyre & Wokal Distance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WcKtV83W6k&t=3514s Paul Vanderklay - The Day of the Lord, Our Hunger for God, and the Parasitism of the Demonic: Pageau, Vervaeke, Hall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCACaFAMxjc&t=392s Auron Macintyre - False Assumptions of Liberalism w/ Carl Benjamin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxj2UHwEH0k Auron Macintyre – Spengler and the atheism of collapse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXcct0DI0D4&t=208s Midnight Mormons - Atheism is Stupid and You Can Prove It Empirically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIP_WdTIlI&t=928s

Final episode of Jared Chris And Flip being edified by a modern day prophet who goes full meltdown. 0:00 salt lake, Garden of Eden, mecca 2:48 type 2 errors 3:01 Ezra Taft Benson and Matt Harris Book 4:52 Martin Luther King 12:43 LDS incursion groups 13:04 excommunicating therapists vs Bundys vs Tyler Glen 15:26 intel that they are going to up disciplinary councils 15:56 Rob Porter and other republican Mormons 17:16 Ibram X Kendi displayed in Deseret Book now 19:24 Risk Aversion becomes totalitarian 20:00 Eyepatch McCain attacked at the Texas GOP convention 22:15 Illegitimate President is Fighting words hypocrisy 23:21 Jan 6 Show trials 24:47 now the church is only out for money and doesn’t have convictions 25:25 No answers 26:33 Capitalism Boogeyman starts 27:36 Socialism and calculation 29:25 we start pumping through points faster to round up for Flip needing to leave Efficiency, Spencer Cox is a shill, 32:02 John laments a democratic republic giving power to minority voices. 33:23 capitalism railing again communists don’t know how 36:31 capitalism works with self-centered incentives 37:07 Michael Shellenberger Broken window Theory 42:23 crap triage and tradeoffs 44:26 The purity meltdown 54:07 Dismantle the system is the answer 55:07 nuclear power where is the talk? 58:51 suddenly John says beware dichotomous thinking after 2 hours of dichotomous thinking 59:08 Carah says all ex Mormonism is rooted in fighting injustice 1:01:00 John says we gotta become Christian and take back mormondom and Christianity through entryism 1:02:48 Jared and Chris continue to review a few clips from attached videos that are general rebuttals to John’s doomsday claims. Ryan Chapman - The 60s and the New Left https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHYpcXWCkUM John Stossel - In Defense of Capitalism Reason TV - Population Control Isn't the Answer Capitalism is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkXjj6dalM PowerfulJRE -Michael Shellenberger and the Homeless Problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsTDA2DT72k&t=585s PowerfulJRE -Michael Shellenberger Climate Alarmism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hatkGFTPyUE&t=235s TEDtalks -Michael Shellenberger Renewables can't save the climate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yALPEpV4w ReasonTV - Alex Epstein We can survive Global Warming, not without Fossil Fuels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms427GD8zDQ&t=810s Jordan Peterson - Bjorn Lomborg What is the cost of our current climate change strategy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ZsD3fL4_0&t=188s Modern Wisdom - Chris Williamson and Patrick Moore Extinction Rebellion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5K5i5Wv7jQ&t=4082s

Chris Flip And Jared Listen to the words of a modern day climate prophet and are edified. Youtube clips below. Times were from the predownloaded video so they maybe slightly off that had a southpark clip. I will see if I can correct them. Intro Getting into the nitty gritty about the Lake 0:38 Glenn Beck Noticed the sudden attention on the Lake too. 2:29 John starts in on the stats of the lake. 3:58 Flip’s Magical Mystery Son of the Salt Adventure 5:51 Saltaire Palace of the Bryne Pixies 6:23 Carnival of Souls 7:31 World Economic Designs on the Utah Port Authority 8:36 ESG Environmental Social Governance, Corporate Control through climate 15:56 deseret News and Klaus Schwab and the WEF 18:15 Utah Port Authority Video 19:58 Population and SLC 20:22 Climate Layman question 22:03 Doomsday predictions 25:10 Coof Predictions 26:44 There are no solutions only tradeoffs 28:00 Buy Local Vs Import Lamb and the UK 29:15 Efficiency 29:59 Climate Narrative Doubters 31:41 The elect never have to answer for what they get wrong 32:30 Claims that the conservative government doesn’t care 32:55 Victor Davis on California’s Water Issues 40:25 ZeroScaping 40:48 Smiles about hardship 41:15 Lake Owen and the Aral Sea 42:58 SOUTHPARK CLIP FORCIBLY EDITED OUT BY COPYWRIGHT CLAIM Replaced by EPA announcement by scotus today to not mess up time stamps. Randy is offered money for his water rights on a farm 44:05 Tragedy of the commons and Corporations pushing out the little guy. It does increase efficiency decreases care for the land and community. 45:02 Captain Planet used to show polluters as polluters for the fun of polluting. 45:46 Mormons care about pollution 47:07 Hunting community conserves wildlife 48:40 Caricatures and caring about unfair representations 49:45 John Larsen is a Prophet 53:25 Worst case scenario and a bet 54:32 A clip of one of many things the New York Times gets wrong on climate 56:04 when prophecy fails 58:27 This is happening NOW says john. Short clip about Al Gore with Bjorn Lomberg 59:47 Foreshadowing the next episode about capitalism and innovation 100:44 Dehlin quoting Marx 101:41 College Freshman takes 102:55 If god real, why he no fix climate change 103:58 John Claims religion can be ok but it can be violent Reason TV shows eco-anxious and extinction rebellion get violent too. 105:01 Apocalyptic fundamentalism 105:51 Carah gets deepity deep 106:59 signalling to what the 3rd part will be about, Blaming Mormons for climate problems and Melt Downs 107:46 Chris has a hunch about name dropping Jon Huntsman Glenn Beck How Biden is using CRISIS to further FASCISM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPqBoXi5oT0&t=540s John Stossel – The Socially Responsible Scam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syVgn6snM2I Vivek Ramaswamy on CNBC I don’t want to link to them, they’ll copywright. Reaason TV Covid Exposed the Truth about the CDC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TftgZ0WCAc Victor Davis Hanson recommended watching Hoover Institution – Victor Davis Hanson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilqKqh-J1hk California Insider – How Corporations Replacing Family Farms Changed Cali https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7pJIHyIre8&t=680s Democast - Two States of California Victor Davis Hanson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1eNcuGcPW4 Tony Heller – Intended Consequences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd2MLxvQUMs Tony Heller – Climate Fraud at the NYT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo7U_yfCyeU Reason TV – Population control isn’t the Answer to Climate Change, Capitalism is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkXjj6dalM

Running in to copyright issues in processing. More will come out soon. Enjoy this little teaser. In fact, maybe I should start editing much more this way. DaN cReNsHaW wAs AsSaUlTeD! Claims Mormon Stories

Jared Flip and Chris review Mormon Stories Climate change episode with John Larsen. Mormons and the Lake. We only get through the first 20 minutes of preambles on this episode The preambles included ideas like punching/down, "woke" can't be defined, and John's definition of fascism. Mormon Stories 1614 - Mormons and the Lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McZgkjXRlw8 Freedomtoons - Leftism in 30 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzMXQGd5Ppc Ill get dinged for linking to Gervais, Chappelle and Kinison. Intro Climate Change is never the top of people's lists 2:00 coming out to your mission president, Mormon no More 6:00 trying to watch MS in good faith 6:55 Mormon Expression used to be good 9:00 everything is political now 10:10 obligatory prefaces 12:05 awkwardness between dehlin and carah, dehlin is the reasonable one here. 14:11 motivation of busybody exmos 15:40 its intelligent people that can come up with best construal and can dodge the best, irony. 19:30 rn from people who make dichotomies 20:07 Nuanced Nuance 20:55 Bullying 22:30 a good intellectual only punches down 24:05 setting up the chess board so your white cis opinion cant count 25:35 they asked for criticism 26:30 Ricky Gervais is an A hole for punching down 29:18 Trans ppl are murdered 31:00 who can punch up and down. Is punching down never funny? 33:08 past Mormon expression episodes about Mormons and comedy 35:05 John is not a bully. But we are. 37:00 the church is the bully for excommunicating dehlin. Sure guys. 39:20 activists dont represent who they claim to. 41:37 Not funny to make fun of people LOWER than you. 46:44 Carah NPC and Chappelle's attacker was stabbing up. 49:30 They now say conservatives have lost their power. Foreshadow for Fascist think their enemies are both weak an powerful as John claims. 53:09 SlIpPeRy sLoPes 54:55 Comedy from Carah 57:34 Gervais and Chappelle make points on which way they are punching. 1:05:35 More disclaimers for naighty words. 1:06:43 Dehlin claims no political affliation. The Newsroom Famous clip lying about bipartisan 1:08:48 Dehlin thinking he is objective and we get called narcissists, Q anon and mormons. 1:10:10 Unaware of biases or lying? 1:11:20 struggle sessions and marcusian about pushback. 1:12:10 the openness of apologists vs exmormons has flipped. 1:13:30 disclaimer we will be politcal but we will be ObJeCtIvE an dBiPaRtIsAn 1:15:15 John cant believe he needs a disclaimer, how dare they police HIS language. 1:19:18 LDS dont get to divorce themselves from Warren Jeffs 1:20:06 What if there was a word for all people with XX cromosomes? Why wouldnt you want them to divorce themselves from it's worst aspects. Do socialists get to divorce themselves? They wouldnt let mormons repent anyway. 1:23:22 socialist mysticism and Marx trying to correct that. 1:25:00 anything progressice is wokeism claims dehlin. 1:27:15 John claims "woke" has no meaning. 1:32:20 we show the definition of "woke" 1:34:40 Aral Sea and the commies. 1:35:51 John tells you how to spot a fascist and tries to give his definition. 1:39:10 we give definitions of fascism, including Mussolini's definition of fascism.

Chris, Flip and Jared Finish up the convo with an eye turned towards some exmormons and Pride. Disclaimer that should be unnecessary: We all believe all consenting adults are free and fine to do whatever with other free and consenting adults. Zelph on the Shelf – Pride Q&A Lovestream 🏳️‍🌈🍸 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8bJCO9GnvE&t=2486s Thoughtful Faith - Exmo Lex: A Case Study In LGBTQ Social Contagion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bGrHKIdu90&t=233s New Discourses - Gayle Rubin's "Thinking Sex" Part 2: Erasing Boundaries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xQlvfzn1GE Podcast of the Lotus Eaters – Pride and Drag Queen Statnists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roUeAbsfFXs&t=212s The Glenn Show - What You Can't Say in the University | Glenn Loury & Jonathan Haidt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWwLbZHXFwI&t=115s GrassRoots Community Network -Applied Postmodernism: How "Idea Laundering" is Crippling American Universities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeXfV0tAxtE&t=1113s Rob Henderson Videos Having a GAS™ with... - Rob Henderson Explains Luxury Beliefs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsgCBpwojZ8 VCP shorts – problem with poly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UisG8QarvYc Alex Kaschuta - Sex & Mating During The End Times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zNkhPd_r1c Rat Utopia Fredrik Knudsen - The Mouse Utopia Experiments | Down the Rabbit Hole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2o Kyle Talks Money - The Doomed Mice Utopia Of Universe 25 (Explained) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO65I5aWaBI

Flip, Jared and Chris keep talking crap on Dehlin's jag about PoStCoLoNiAlIsM of the LDS Church. I apologize for language in these. But I don't think I'm stress much about cussing much anymore. We say what we say. Mormon Stories - 1605: Responding to Mormon Apostle David Bednar's National Press Club Conference - Pt 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4qwgPepbLs&t=4870s Jared's Channel Saint of the Pyre - Googling Nonsense 3: The Masters Tools https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BdpthKO36I&t=264s

Chris and Jared and later joined by Flip get back to looking at the past few week in stupid in exmormon vlogger world. Mormon Stories - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyLe4mWvTKA&t=2075s 1598: Overcoming Religious Shame and Scrupulosity - Marc Oslund Mormons Stories - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4qwgPepbLs&t=5433s

Jared and Chris get caught up talking Dan Reynolds after he appeared on Lex Fridman's podcast this past week. Covering Imagine Dragons, the Believer documentary and some of his answers responses. This is a reupload after it was blocked by the schmaily schmow for a week. Maybe a little editing and not referencing them will help get around it. Lex Fridman - Dan Reynolds: Imagine Dragons | Lex Fridman Podcast #290 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGZkf87aCs Todd in the Shadows - POP SONG REVIEW: "Thunder" by Imagine Dragons vs. "Feel It Still" by Portugal. The Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=024W1BxcIys&t=595s

Flip n Chris Talk Guitars, Johnny Depp Trial, Duluth Model, and other Received Opinions Mormon Stories John Larsen and the Tower of Babel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoCnEWbmquY&t=3540s Nuancehoe - All The Things Ex-Mormon Q & A Stream!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW0SXBlOm8M&t=3040s

Kevan and Chris start a deep dive into the dissident or postmodern right. We plan on getting deeper into the ideas in order to pull back out after and look at how similar concepts are being used in the mo, exmo, apologists bolgo/vlogosphere and other technocratic, world-resolving, philsophical and theological sooper thinkers that see into the future and plan to save us all….or those who would be saved. The Distributist - A Gentle Introduction to Mencius Moldbug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6LUjUbikkk&t=2896s Sisyphus 55 - Accelerationism, The Dark Enlightenment & The Strange Life of Nick Land https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJISIwit0tk&t=226s Transhumania - Nick Land and Accelerationism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-5iTcV-aDU&t=3688s IdubbbzTV - Getting Away with It https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jTdu3FI7vo&t=2607s Keri Smith Deprogrammed - Depp/Heard & The Law of Public Opinion with Jared Bauer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnNr0pwks74&t=3263s Benjamin A Boyce - Understanding Power | with Curtis Yarvin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z6AyddEveU&t=6078s Lotuseaters Dot Com – Critical Based Theory Series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_2wqZ7jy20 Lotuseaters Dot Com - The Dissident Right Goes Mainstream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7-4EeY7jA&t=191s ShortFatOtaku - The Nature Of Progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyxk320Btdc

Chris, Kevan and Jared (Saint of the Pyre) review Zelph on the Shelf Mormon Diet video. We then get in to capital C critical theory as devised by Adorno and Horkheimer to show how it has become common hat whether people know it or not. Then we question their cynical take on the Culture Industry. Andrew Klavan Reviews Peterson Saga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx3QW8hEud8&t=539s Zelph on the Shelf - Mormon Diet Culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMP4ltS6Aws&t=525s Plastic Pills - The Culture Industry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQeHs4YVeug Captain Fantastic Clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXE6ZafkRMI&t=89s Horkheimer Quote https://youtu.be/OBaY09Qi-w0 JJ McCullough - Nostalgia Art https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcCTnCP91bo 80s Soviet Synth Pop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6wl-EyhXl0 Wokal Distance/Jack Posobiac - Pizza Hut Twitter Thread https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1523472099104284674?s=20&t=_9oRzqaNKDrcOuxBpKSHcA

Chris and Jared rip off "This Week In Stupid" or meme review format to just do a quick round up of all the things ignored by your average Post Mormon vloggers. For the half dozen of us that don't fall right in line with "tHe MeSsAgE"

Flip n Chris Review more of Carah’s exit from Mo Stories then review Mo Stories’ interview with Cara Santa Maria who interestingly was the clean-up podcaster when Rebecca Watson left Skeptics Guide to the Universe after laying waste to the New Atheist Convention Movement with the Elevator Gate incident. Cara Santa Maria Mormon Stories 1576 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ZEO03pkTg&t=6645 NuanceHoe has a meltdown and gets fired from Mormon Stories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnS3M6-Urvc Roasting my husband converting celebs in his Mormon comedy career! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNy_v4knMWc&t=131s The Rise and Fall of New Atheism (Four Horsemen, Elevatorgate, Atheism+) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW_1UmAD_JI&t=5s

Flip n Chris talk about Nuancehoe leaving Mormon Stories. We review the 'splanation. We go over some verboten News Stories surely not allowed to be acknowledged by a proper exmormon, Kyle Dunnigan - What's my talkin about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cvbT7oCRfU Nuancehoe - I left Mormon Stories and here's why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_dqupfF3SI Dave Smith Roast Pork - Part Of The Problem #844 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKauv3qiXSk&t=2863s Ricochet.com - No Dumb Questions Victor Davis Hanson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpTpJ2S_zKc Triggernometery - Leaving Mumford & Sons - Winston Marshall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w7TY3k3Zz8 Stossel - Solution to Children's Propaganda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg7i7f31hgk Sonya's Prep - How I Cover My Hair As A JEWISH Woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ4DgJ0MCaE Rubin Report What Everyone Is Afraid to Say Out Loud | David Mamet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhEk0Mg_79Q&t=18s Review of Mormon Fiddler on the Roof https://forward.com/culture/484448/byu-fiddler-on-the-roof-mormon-jewish-latter-day-saints/?fbclid=IwAR0xfqTjL0HsqRKN_yK1NCjmmJ3e2E4rr1AdKNE-YnkT-nVgg_HLQoznLVY

Chris and Kevan review some recent Hollywood style revisionist "history" for another examination into how "The Message" messes with truth. We then talk about how the similar sensibility pushes into academic style "deconstructions" and "new historicism" and how the same desires for supposed justice has started messing with STEM. Julia Episode 1 HBO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj4PZak-GFk&t=2396s Julia Child flipping a Potato https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6s6rVAkFrE Julia Child on Letterman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT4z2iZIOuA&t=3150s The girl from Plainview Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-RadqZ-A3o The Dropout Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7rlZLw9m10&t=24s Spencer Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WllZh9aekDg Benjamin A. Boyce: When Research Goes Awry | with Abby Nissenbaum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddJ-msBLP-s&t=1503s