Porchtime

More stuff keeps happening. We will stop when stuff stops. Black Face Apologist, Testing Dan Mac, Contrapoints makes so many contrapoints, molesty buddhists, Budlight is trad again.

Hodgepodge of stuff to go over. Catastrophizing Hawaii Speech, Advertising, Wood Tools/Steel Tools, Sabbaticals, Platforming Harm Causers, Cancelled professors. Maybe none of that, Maybe All of that. Always a thousand things in "our little, itty-bitty, corner of the internet." Whatever comes up!

Gonna chat the news, Dillahunty run in with Jacob Hansen, Shroomy Missionary work on Mormon Stories.....Maybe some Nashville Happenings.

Small Clip of "Selma Envy" that animates so much slacktivism along with Flip melting it all down.

There is too much to report in the world of Exmormon Blue Church preaching this week. We watched it all and we will try to cover a fraction of it. Plenty going on in the rest of worldwide conversion effort as well.

Back to review more Machiavellianism, Narcissism and Sociopathy. All the Dark Triad is representing in Mo/Exmo/religio/politico dystopia.

Marti from Mormon Discussions, Seth from Transcendent Philosophy, Christopher from Before the Crows Nest and Connie from Cali all continue to review John Vervaeke's series "After Socrates" as an examination of the series as maybe useful for the LDS and people leaving the LDS church or the people in our lives who may be facing "meaning crisis." After Socrates Episode 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOYTkFPK04Y&t=4387s After Socrates Episode 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQQaOMfGsu8&t=5208s Vervaeke explains his project more thoroughly on Meaning in the Middle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgeQeFmpx_s&t=143s Vervaeke comparing Eastern Orthodox with Neoplatonism with Bishop Maximus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AxtZbth-I&t=6s Channels of the panelists: Marti Where Will You Go? Interview with John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ed2jGy2Zsk&t=3s Seth Transcendent Philosophy: https://www.youtube.com/@transcendentphilosophy Christopher at Before The Crow's Nest: https://www.youtube.com/@beforethecrowsnest

How to science your way to being better than all others.

SEC Filing. Woke exmo not slowin its roll

Chris along with guests Marti (Where will you go? - Mormon Discussions Inc) Seth (Transcendent Philosophy) and Christopher (Before the Crow's Nest) take a look at Vervaeke's attempt to provide a large tent unifying framework for all "western" thinkers." We review it as fans of philosophy and charitable listeners to the 4 horsemen of meaning and as people earnestly giving it a chance to be a placeholder for something like Mormon Church we were raised in. We promise to both be charitable and to not pull punches. Jared Flip, and Kevan may all also give their reviews of this series either with this group or at other times. Any others wanting to join in the review hit us up. This episode loosely covers episodes 1-3 of Vervaeke's After Socrates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aeD1-brsdc https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuj6q5NP_fXjBzUT1p_qYSCC Marti Where Will You Go? Interview with John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ed2jGy2Zsk&t=3s Seth Transcendent Philosophy: https://www.youtube.com/@transcendentphilosophy Christopher at Before The Crow's Nest: https://www.youtube.com/@beforethecrowsnest

Gonna try to start with a simple premise of talking about entertainment and current-day religion shoehorning and trojan horses.

Kevan and I talk about atheism, pragmatism idealism blah blah blah. A clip with Jacob Hanson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWuNc4XVrMw&t=4s How Dawkins got Pwned by Mencius Moldbug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihiqIcHV7d4&list=PL1a38XXThqSZTAKBxv8i0wmFvBTcHrvIM The Distributist “Do Leftoids dream of reactionary sheep?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ii2Uqf3ZHY&t=1381s Gad Sad on Sam Harris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoc7dT1tkHo&t=844s Hicks on Hegel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dJZeHhz4Qg&t=31s Intro: Philosophy is “well-grounded” mysticism. 10:02 Why not always focus on nasty pasts? And Pragmatics and Truth Claims 21:34 larger existential threats can become bigger than squabbles over truth claims. So Says Sam Harris. 26:07 Analytic Philosophers. And AI for answer. AI IS Us. 34:43 Knowing arguments against yourself. How Dawkins got Pwned 38:52 Latter Day Skeptic Evangelical for M.42. Platonism and Vervaeke’ Neoplatonism. 50:22 Leftist Philosophy Religion and Rousseau, Captain Fantastic. 53:10 Noam Chomsky Day . Maoist Kids. Khmer Rouge apologist and BioPower pusher. 1:01:53 Leftist Utopia always looks Amish. 1:10:44 New Atheism oversteps it’s supposed single claim that they lack belief in god and that’s all. 1:19:06 The French Revolution the Cult of Reason. 10 Day super Smart Calendar 1:27:32 Man and his Technic. Pronomian vs Antinomian Societies. 1:33:34 John Vervaeke trying to find a cure. Holding on to our cultiure.

Adding thoughts to a vid Kevan and I already recorded, because a lot of things came up in the livestream between. Varieties of Privileged Experience Live Stream, Oughtism 1 and Oughtism 2 are in reverse chronological order. I swear if I had more time and skill, I would edit these better and make them more concise, but alas I don't. These are just spattering of ideas. I know there are also many pushbacks on the metaphysical danger of only viewing humans as evolutionary beings.....and I agree with it. Viewing humans as more than that, sincerely viewing humans as more than that......makes huge differences. Is/ought Gap Mew Pragmatism, Idealism, Atheism and Naturalistic Nuke. 13:06 MLk and Liberal religious meta ideas. 19:53 Idealist Philosophy Similar to Religious belief and theologies through the ages. 30:36 Go all the way atheists, clean up scientism. 33:02 How Dawkins Got Pwned, France is not Real 47:56 Christian Atheist, Calvinist Atheist, Mormon Atheists. 57:37 Genealogy of the Parasite we are stuck with. Gad Saad Shellenburger. Hubris of Harris. 1:12:37 Peterson and Victor Davis Hansen. 1:19:35 I rely on an abstraction that could be called not real and never really was real too. NIETZSCHE: How the Real World Became a Myth (Twilight of the Idols) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVCwIg95ZrY&t=39s King Crocoduck Nuking Social Construction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sp0y_USBk MLK’s Sins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5WQnPWx94o&t=1123s Pageau and Eastern Orthodox Symbolsim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Ibs67ke6c&t=403s How Dawkins got Pwned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihiqIcHV7d4&list=PL1a38XXThqSZTAKBxv8i0wmFvBTcHrvIM Shellenburger and Gad Saad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_7OMuJwlo&t=2392s Victor Davis Hansen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUC2Xk2YW9M

Shootin the crap.

A group of loosely edited videos to Dehlin's insistence that the mound-builder myth is a dagger for condemning colonial raycisists. Reviewed in the livestream

Talking more Dehlinite church. Possible Subjects: Hogwarts Legacy, Mound builders, Raycisicism, Community and Secularism, Lefty Hypocrisy Actual Subjects: Whatever the hell weird things Flip read on Wikipedia.

Flip, Chris and Jared attempt to crap on the touchiest subject of our times because it's on the menu. We look at the worst possible place for answers. Mormon Stories. Intro: Sorry Reel 3:48 Claims that have some truth and also Strain Credulity. Actual White Supremacists in Utah? 12:45 Contesting Mass Murder Numbers 19:02 Erol Morris 22:25 Lex Fridman Reading List, Our Reading. 34:06 Back to MrOmRoM Storieses, Its sacred, ignore all trolls and naysayers; SURVIVORS 41:22 Mormon Stories the White Savior Episodes. Sorry A Thon 58:43 Going over the Projection. Interest Convergence. Every micro-infraction carries all the weight. 1:03:46 The same racism is here only its hidden. 1:06:29 Love Bombing To Get people into your group and oppressed Democrat Voters. Needing to Fix wrong thinkers 1:11:36 White is equated with good. 1:14:46 Difference between Racism and White Supremacy. 1:17:52 Dehlin Concerned About Grooming. Don’t take abuse from stupid people. These guys aren’t the answer. 1:21:18 Racism Splaining White Supremacy Vs Racism, Deconstructing Entitlements. Black on Black Crime 1:33:51 Joanna Brooks and White Supremacy 1:40:53 Apologetics with FAIR. Postmodernism, Axioms. Shmliphosopy 1:50:35 Back to racism splanation. Mound Building is super racist?? 1:53:54 Sam Harris can you name an objectively bad thing? The ones who walked away from Omelas 1:58:46 You cant leave who you are benefiting from. Democrat Party? More Malcolm X Those In Poer Do the Training. 2:02:46 People Splain to you in life. Get over it. White Privilege is knowing the white guy is just an a jerk. 2:07:46 Kamala Harris Sucks. Overstating Black Famous Person Hate is only skin related. Serena Williams, Megan Markle. I can give some defense to Kamala. 2:18:39 Ma’am given the death penalty. Talking down and acting Superior is bad. Ok White Savior John. 2:22:45 Mormon Stories Doesn’t Know How. Dehlin’s Dumb Elon and J.K Rowling Post. Branding is god.

Discussing recent goofiness brought to us by Very Smart People

Chris Jared and Flip talk liberalism vs leftist encroachment and right wing iron fists. Then we mess around with an AI chat bot, asking it about communism, to write us stories and armadillo cat poems, and then ask if it is taking over before Dan Maclellan does. Intro We thought Mormonism was what Jacob Hansen says Mormonism is. 5:00 We got Dan Maclellan to give some dumb answers in a live Q&A 7:25 Excommunication Julie Hanks and Dehlin 11:42 After 20 years, Mormon Stories is covering the Book of Abraham. HOT new stuff off the presses. So Fresh. 18:49 Flip arrives, Dehlin self-conscious a little about reveling in General Authority Naughty affairs. Old Biblical Wisdom. 24:55 Trump NFTs 28:59 John Larsen Clip of the week. 37:43 Learn to not be overly proud or ashamed of your ancestry. Who invented the airplane? Doug Stanhope. 50:24 Asking Dan Maclellan about his biases. 53:29 Getting into authoritarianism. Left wing religion, Right wing authoritarianism..Elon’s Banning. 1:06:27 the ideal version of tolerance and pluralism. 1:13:04 Michael Knowles authoritarianism Italian elite theory. 1:27:18 the mechanism of liberalism. 1:34:55 Idealisms searching for utopia. Liberal Pluralistic society was as close as anyone was gonna get. 1:40:21 Jared plays us some Zelda. Jag into Video Games. 1:44:59 Some Rockin Bible Rock 1:49:00 Weird Mission Food Stories and Pictures. 1:59:32 We spend the whole last bit screwing around with ChatGPT asking it to tell us about Marxism, write us songs about armadillo cats, and try to decipher for us how Dan Maclellan can be so dang smrt and correct and have the objectively correct politics always. This is all frivolity but pretty wild to watch ChatGPT in action.

Chris Flip and Jared talk about the waves of feminism and the exmormon podcasts seemingly ideologically captured by the ideas. Intro: Last of Us race swap 7:17 We were asked why we don’t like Femineminism. Flip and Jared give off-the-cuff initial answers. 19:10 First Wave Feminism. Janice Fiamengo and Studio Bruhle. 24:42 Second Wave Feminism. The New Left 35:05 Third Wave Feminism. Intersectionality and postmodernism. 50:18 The biggest podcasts in ex-Mormonism all smuggle in this crap epistemology. We prefer pre-modernists. 56:42 Hoaxes for justice. 107:30 Empiricism for thee not for me. Famous ex-mo podcasts can’t not show allegiance to woke ideology even at their best 3 examples. First Bill Reel. 1:11:48 Mormonism Live Must apologize for manliness instead of staying on topic. 1:37:44 John Larsen completes the neoliberal virtue signal triforce of still signaling during otherwise ok episodes. 1:46:20 NPR and Ex-mo podcasts that try to be NPR are making fools of themselves. 1:52:30 Dallin Oaks Calling for musket Fire, Simpsons. There are no Sexes…. and You better believe or else. Who is doing the witch hunting?

Livestreamin the holiday

Chris, Flip and Jared continue to watch Mormons Stories react to the LDS church recognizing ideological activism has gotten "extra." Intro, Being offended for getting kicked out o f the Club you hated. 4:59 ATC, MLK The New Left Reform Vs Revolution 15:36 Wokeism is a white supremacist movement. 16:41 Whataboutism 19:13 The church cant like MLK 21:20 The ERA The Draft Shlafly 25:29 Activism Abortion Satanism 29:39 unfairness real or imagined. Imagined Dragons if you will. Michael Scott Actisvism. Hoaxes 39:35 Only Activism causes change 40:01 Poker will test your atheism. Punished with Poker for Leaving Mormonism. 43:22 Can the church change on the gay issue? What activism did work? 49:39 The Godmakers 51:39 Activism works sometimes some times it doesn’t. Christ doesn’t, but they really know Christ. 1:00:00 activist stirring all this up is necessary 1:03:00 Critical Race Theory Tenant example. “Nothing has changed only silenced.” 1:04:28 Stories of active members daring to talk to leadership. Wild Wagley. 1:07:47 Sam poo poos the constitution. Jon Adams and 3/5ths 1:13:33 The alternative would be utopia. The Vote and Men 1:17:41 Virtue Signaling to Christian nationalists. “Not too get too political” 1:20:52 John is threatened by the doctrine of christ. Government Pressure Saves. 1:22:33 ATC is a cult tactic. Cult Jargon. 1:26:01, Leaving before too deep into adulthood. 1:27:15 John only wants cause less harm, no destroy churchy. 1:19”16 What would it take to go back to church? Redo the whole thing. 1:29:47 What would make exmormons come back? 1:33:12 Too reductive to call us tools of satan. 1:35:00 John advocates for making religious speech illegal. 1:39:11 What did jesus say according. Evil John 1:41:21 Hammer is not the right tool. NAACP shouldn’t associate. This guy isn’t black right. Driving While Black. 1:47:26 More telling us all what change is needed. They know Jesus 1:49:47 Tokenization again. You cant not stick your foot in your mouth with Woke. 1:53:06 Praise John, In the Name of Activist Jesus Amen. 1:56:17 Population Games. Canada Bigotry.

We recently talked about the origins of this channel on Thinker of Thoughts podcast and in some of our recent episodes. One of our main goals has been to show the ideological capture of ex-Mormon communities. Notice we aren't even making much of a value judgment or critique of it here. We are simply showing that they are doing what they deny they do.....or play dumb to doing. The ideology we go into detail parsing out, "Wokeism," is the new ideological substrate of Mormon Stories and a large swath of ex-Mormons and ex-religious alike. Ideological alignment with Mormon Stories is a conversion to a new puritanism not a deconversion from an old one.