MZTV 1446: And Then RIIIIIIIP! Went The Temple Veil
The point where God temporarily rejected Israel was certainly not Acts 28:28. That has got to be the deafest, dumbest, and blindest line that has ever been concocted. The true line is so obvious it's nothing less than a miracle that ANYONE could walk past it.
A continuation here of the rebuttal of a book written by Clyde Pilkington claiming that every member of the body of Christ must die. I won't be on this topic forever but I won't be satisfied until this theory dies and stays dead.
Free at no extra charge to you: A history of Charles Welch and the development of the Acts 28:28 theory. Which came first, a fear of the snatching away or the Acts 28:28 theory? I certainly have MY theory.
ZWTF SPECIAL EDITION: A defense of the Expectation of the Body of Christ, Part 2: NEW TRUTH: https://martinzender.com/ZWTF/ZWTF4.21.pdf
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MZTV 1445: This Verse Proves That One Needn't Die to Be Together With Christ
Here is the long-awaited verse from Philippians proving that one needn't die to be together with Christ.
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MZTV 1444: We Are To Be Looking For Christ, Not The Coroner
We are told over and over again by Paul to be expecting the return of Christ and the transformation of our bodies. Yet there is a teacher in the body of Christ, Clyde Pilkington, who insists that we are “wasting our time” hoping for deliverance and that, instead of expecting Christ, we ought to be expecting the hearse instead.
It sounds like I’m joking, but I’m not. Clyde Pilkington, a teacher in the body of Christ, is encouraging us to expect only death, merrily insisting—without evidence, and in the face of anti-evidence—that “Christ will not return in our lifetimes.” In fact, according to Mr. Pilkington, Christ is not returning for us at all. Ever. Don’t believe me? Here’s the quote:
“Christ is NOT returning in our lifetime. The hope of His coming belongs to Israel.”
—Clyde Pilkington, Bible Student’s Notebook
You’ve been hoping for His coming? Silly, unspiritual person—that’s for Israel. If only you were an Israelite. But sorry, you're not. In YOUR evangel, the only coming for YOU is the coroner. To your doorstep.
Here’s another quote from the teacher who is expecting only the coroner and the embalmer in this life:
“Don’t waste your time imagining that you will be delivered away from your divine training ground.”
—Clyde Pilkington, Bible Student’s Notebook #488
So use your time wisely and pre-pay your funeral expenses.
I am not saying that WE are guaranteed not to die. I'm saying what Paul is saying, that there are a handful of body of Christ members, surviving to the presence of the Lord, who will not be put to repose (1 Corinthians 15:51). We could very well be them. Every member of the body of Christ from Paul onward is supposed to think this: “We could very well be them.” This is a happy expectation BUILT IN to the evangel of the grace of God. It’s part of it.
We are not so arrogant to assume that WE are the ones who will not be put to repose. We THINK we are, but no one knows for sure. We are not so selfish as to say that if it’s NOT us then we will abandon the expectation. The expectation is that SOME members of the body of Christ, at SOME time, will not have to experience death. We are celebrating THE TRUTH. We are celebrating the joyous miracle, the amazing secret disclosed by Paul that there will be a spectacular EXCEPTION to the grim work of the Grim Reaper.
So screw you, Grim Reaper!
Not everyone is happy about the Grim Reaper getting screwed in this life. Strange, yes? One has to wonder if maybe such teachers have some sort of kickback scheme going with the funeral directors.
MZ/IB Archive - WCCD Grace Café Series: Christ Reconciles All Creation to God (June 11 - Hr 1): https://youtu.be/lYA8RKRK3Aw?si=63-2NIoDUdhKDPc7
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MZTV 1439: God Prefers Us From the Beginning to Love Truth
Why are billions of people perishing for the eon? Because they have not received a love of the truth. Only God can impart a love of the truth, but nevertheless this is what distinguishes those who have eonian life from those who don’t: the love of the truth.
The main point of this episode of MZTV is to show you that God will cause both vessels of honor and vessels of dishonor to come to a PERSONAL realization of their spiritual disposition, that is, whether they have hated the truth or loved it. This is essential, for people must be convinced in their own hearts via incontrovertible evidence why they are either enjoyers of or missers of eonian life.
God does this by setting traps. By means of these traps, He snares the truth-haters, tricking them into exposing THEMSELVES, while at the same time using these truth-haters as foils for the truth LOVERS, who realize who come to realize their disposition via comparison (the “contrast principle”) with their truth-hating counterparts.
I know this sounds a tad complicated but this is because, um, God is a tad complicated.
MZTV 1093: Watch God Set the Eternal Torment Trap: https://youtu.be/ZgQE_-ScqII?si=0pVdlhw9AuE3eomj
MZ/IB Archive - WCCD Grace Café Series: A Detailed Study of "The Ages" in Scripture (June 10, Hr 2): https://youtu.be/FB4mDxN6Bec?si=nelkFqfrRlmiKmo1
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MZTV 1443: A Dread Fear of the Snatching Away
I have seen the contents of Clyde Pilkington's Book, "Will We Escape Death," in which he insists that all members of the body of Christ must die. This, in spite of Paul's contention in 1 Corinthians 15:51 that, "We all, indeed, shall not be put to repose."
This is the most deceitful collection of "proofs" I have ever seen. Rather than proof, the reader is presented with misquoted Scripture, circular reasoning, misrepresentation of other authors, purposeful avoidance of near context, cherry-picked Bible translations, and sheer outrageous statements dependent upon the gullibility of the reader for persuasion.
I could be wrong, but the only reason I can imagine for anyone adapting this absurd, Jules Verne-like teaching is if one's fear of being snatched away alive by Christ outweighs one's willingness to critically think.
Indeed, a fear of leaving the earth in so sudden a fashion may be the impetus for not only the "we-must-all-surely-die" theory, but also the Acts 28 and the "pre-millennial-kingdom" nonsense.
I daresay that a long life on earth ending with a hearty eulogy and weeping grandchildren may be the comfort zone of more people than we think.
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MZTV 1442: We Shall NOT All Die
The apostle Paul, addressing the body of Christ under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote that "We all, indeed shall not be put to repose." Yet our brother Clyde Pilkington, in a new book, claims that EVERY member of the body of Christ MUST be put to repose. What could cause a man to put his own teaching up against the apostle's inspired declarations and consider his own teaching to be superior? We investigate this phenomenon in today's MZTV.
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MZTV 1441: Martin Zender Answers Your Most Pressing Questions
If we are created in the image of God, why don't we have free wills? Even though we are justified, will we still somehow be punished for our sin? How can I I have a greater calling and a higher destiny than Peter? All these questions are satisfyingly answered in this edition of MZTV.
Additionally, I am publicly mourning over my brother Clyde Pilkington's assertion that every member of the body of Christ must and will die. This, in direct opposition to Paul's statement in 1 Corinthians 15:51, "We shall NOT all be put to repose." For me, this is a bridge too far. It's a slap to the face of inspired Scripture concerning the Body of Christ.
If this and other wild assertions from the Pilkington camp were based on sound scholarship, then we'd have to consider it. But they're not. When one sees how poor the scholarship actually is (I will point this out in detail in an upcoming show), one will once again be able to rest with confidence in Paul's declarative statement.
When it comes down to Paul Vs. Clyde, there IS a clear winner.
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MZTV 1440: When Occupying the Glorious Future, Could We Ever Forget Our Ignoble Past?
Why does God say in Isaiah 65:17 that the former heavens and earth “shall not be remembered”? Is God actually going to forget what He did in the past? And what about the EVENTS of the former earth? If our future bliss is based upon our former trials, how could we not remember the very things that provide for the contrastive experience?
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MZTV 1438: Des Moines Conference Q & A
From "Will we still be able to eat steak and wings during the millennial kingdom," to "Does Abraham have a celestial allotment?" I fielded all comers at the Des Moines, IA Conference last September.
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MZTV 1436: How to Explain the Rich Man and Lazarus to Crazy Christians Who Think It's Literal
Christians use the parable of The Rich Man and Lazarus to try to prove that eternal torment is true. What they miss—as always—is context. They like to say, "Nowhere is it called a parable!" Oh, but it is. But they have to go back one chapter to see that—but they're just not that careful or interested.
Next, they proclaim that this is what happens to people who die having not believed in Jesus. Really? Where in the context is faith in Jesus even mentioned? Uh oh. This point wrecks their little torture fantasies every time.
MP3: https://martinzender.com/MZTV/MZTV1436_How_to_Explain_the_Rich_Man_and_Lazarus_to_Crazy_Christians_Who_Think_It's_Literal.mp3
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MZTV 1436: This Small Christian Tract Contains World Record Number of Mistakes
Here is another of my talks from the Des Moines conference of last fall. While on my run one morning a week before the conference, I was ruminating to God about what subjects to bring the saints, when I looked down and I saw this track on the sidewalk. Wouldn't that be, like, a strong suggestion from God?
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MZTV 1435: The Work Paul Says We're Supposed to Be Doing; This May Shock You
Whenever we consider the word "work" (especially in the Scriptures) we imagine a grand effort aimed at improving our moral behavior. Well, take a look at what Paul calls "work" in the book of Ephesians. You're going to love this.
This video begins with an explanation of how a laborer in the evangel gets wages. This was inspired by the snarky comment of an antagonist on my channel who condemned me for attempting to "make a name" for myself and for not having "a real job."
I apologize for a couple of audio glitches in this show; not sure what happened but it's rare and fairly unobtrusive.
I love you all!
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MZTV 1434: Saved Without Fruit
In the gospel to Israel, fruit is required as evidence of belief. In the gospel of the transcendent grace of God (Paul's gospel; the gospel to the nations), fruit will naturally follow belief but is not required as evidence of it. Note the difference between fruit being REQUIRED and fruit naturally FOLLOWING belief.
The Israel gospel speaks of fruit as the offspring of a believer. Paul, however, speaks of it as the offspring of the holy spirit (Galatians 5:22) WITHIN a believer (1 Corinthians 3:16).
MZ/IB Archive: WCCD Grace Café Series: WAKE UP: An Urgent Call for Christians (June 10, Hour 1): https://youtu.be/lx9QmWFKbzw?si=RwN-K85mwhJS8MwO
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MZTV 1433: Christianity's God is a Sinner; the Sermon on the Mount Proves It
As many of you have discerned, I recorded this week of shows with new viewers in mind. Thankfully (and I knew this would be the case), you have appreciated this. Hearing again the bedrock truths of God's glory sears them even deeper into our minds. It does that for me anyway.
Today's show is old AND new. I spend the first six minutes comparing the gospel of the kingdom with the gospel of Paul, but then after that it's off to the Sermon on the Mount where an incredible discovery surfaces: The Christian god is a sinner. We always knew he was, but the words of Jesus Himself documents it. You're going to love this.
The First Idiot in Heaven: https://martinzender.com/books/first_idiot_enlarged.htm
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MZTV 1432: Remember in Genesis Where Joseph Turns His Brothers Over a Pit of Flame For Eternity?
Joseph is a perfect type of Christ, as God meant him to be. Jesus Himself read the account of Joseph and took comfort from it.
Remember the part where Joseph, wishing to wreak vengeance upon his brothers for selling him into slavery so many years before, put his brothers on a spit and turned them over a fire for eternity? You don't? Hm.
The account of Joseph can be found in Genesis chapters 37 through 50.
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MZTV 1431: Satan Speaks Through Sincere People
Satan loves using "squeaky-clean" pastors and other Christian leaders to preach the most evil message to ever infect the human race.
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MZTV 1430: A God Even Better Than Your Wildest Imagination
For those of us who grew up in the institutional religious systems (which is most of us), how could we have possibly known that God was gracious and loving and that His Son successfully completed His mission on earth: to take away the sins of the world? I was raised in the Catholic church and had to pray my way out of my sins every month with repetitious performances of "Our Father," "Hail Mary," and "Glory Be." How COULD I have known that the Jesus Christ we all supposedly worshipped had done all the work for me? I didn't know how that could be, seeing as how I was pressed into finishing everything that Jesus Christ apparently only started.
Other branches of Christianity are no better. Every division of the Christian religion has its own list of feats you must perform to stay in God's good graces.
In this video, I compare the Christian God to Santa Claus: he's made a list, checked it twice, found out who's naughty and who is nice. Santa Claus gave bad kids a lump of coal to find in their stockings on Christmas morning. The Christian God is far more diabolical, turning people INTO lumps of coal—to be eternally tormented in the fires of his inglorious wrath.
One has to wonder just what God's Son Jesus actually accomplished on the cross after all that suffering. Short answer from the halls of orthodoxy: absolutely nothing.
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MZTV 1429: Who Is Worse Off—An Occultist or a Christian?
While it seems incredible at first, the Christian world is worse than the world of the occult because, in the occult world the demons generally identify themselves. The occultist knows what he/she is working with. In the Christian religion, however, where the name of God is defamed through the teaching of Eternal Torment, and where the human becomes his/her own savior through the teaching of Human Free Will, the malevolent spirits disguise themselves as messengers of light. God is not generally defamed in the world of the occult, but His essence is warped beyond repair in the Christian assembly.
When a person enters the Christian world, he or she is thought to be safe from demonic influence. Such people receive positive reinforcement from the entire community, from their friends, their family, and certainly from the church leaders and attendees. Yet here they are in worse danger of honoring and worshipping Satan than in the world of the occult. But this is understating it. They are not only in danger of it but, simply by attending, are DOING IT. Because, again, Satan worship here is hidden behind appealing systems, an agreeable environment, and professional clergymen.
MZ/IB Archive - WCCD Grace Café: Christian Doctrines Turn The World From God (Day 9, Hour 2): https://youtu.be/iNOvvAUaKnE?si=MCg4gNjpaNTqlauU
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MZTV 1428: Christians Would Rob Us of Grace to Make Themselves Feel Better
Misery loves company, but we're not having it. Though Christians—trapped in their fleshly self-improvement programs—might be secretly jealous over our worry-free walk with Christ, they would rather that WE be like THEM. And so they set traps for us, hoping to rob us of our grace and freedom.
If this gaggle of religionists think that we're going to fall for their institutional seductions anytime soon, well, we've outgrown holy-roller rock bands and wall-sized lyric screens. We'll stick with sitting quietly at Christ's feet and basking in justification, thank you very much.
MZTV 943: Have I Ever Told Anyone to Sin?: https://youtu.be/r_boQQAwtIE?si=MnDVCOI2IPBsLpac
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MZTV 1427: Paul's Brilliant Boxing Word Gets Wasted in Every Translation
In 1 Corinthians 9:27, Paul employs a very colorful and precise Greek word that perfectly fits the boxing analogy he’s employing to describe how he brings his body into slavery to Christ. What does every single translation do, including the Concordant Literal New Testament? They ignore the hard work this beautiful Greek word does (hupopiazo) to help us grasp Paul’s boxing analogy (Paul loved that such a perfect boxing term existed for him), and translate with an English word that has absolutely nothing to do with the meaning of hupopiazo.
Translator#1: Paul is using a boxing analogy here to describe a walk in Christ.
Translator #2: Okay, then what?
Translator#1: Well, next he uses a word that, apparently, has specifically to do with boxing.
Translator #2: There is such a Greek word?
Translator#1: Yes. It’s hupopiazo.
Translator #2: Wow. What does it mean?
Translator#1: “To blacken with a blow that part of the face under the eye."
Translator #2: Right after a boxing analogy?
Translator#1: Yep.
Translator #2: Now let me see if I have this straight. We have a boxing analogy.
Translator#1: Yes.
Translator #2: Followed by a word that means, basically, “to strike under the eye.”
Translator#1: Correct.
Translator #2: Hm. Boxing, and then “to strike under the eye.”
Translator#1: Right. Boxing, and then “to strike under the eye.”
Translator #2: So...once more now...Boxing...and then a word that means, “to strike under the eye.”
Translator#1: Yes. That’s our situation.
Translator #2: I’ve got it! Let’s make it “belabor!”
Translator #1: Brilliant!
MZTV 943: Have I Ever Told Anyone to Sin?: https://youtu.be/r_boQQAwtIE?si=CswGl_eLsOH0rgZe
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MZTV 1426: This is Why There Are Exhortations Even in the Gospel of "Saved No Matter What"
Some believers lose their beans when Paul lists various sins and then tells people what they stand to lose should they chronically commit them. These believers who now have fewer beans can’t understand why Paul would do this after declaring believers justified, conciliated to God, and telling them to present themselves to God as if alive from among the dead.
I can understand this confusion and why people might tend to accuse Paul of reverting to the law of Moses—but in a sneaky way. And yet this is not at all what is happening. The bean-losers say to me, “We’re just going to ignore those verses. We don’t like them. There is no way we’re going back to ‘Do this’ and ‘Don’t do that.’”
I say to these folks, “Good! Because these verses are not FOR you. They are for the people with the potential to be helped by these exhortations, for whom these exhortations are a goad dissuading them from doing things that, although they could never imperil their salvation, could nevertheless screw up their lives, hurt those around them, and cause them a loss of certain wages at the dais of Christ.
I have noticed one thing in common with the complainers (or those, perhaps, who are merely confused about this—until this video, of course): These people are, to a man, leading mild and quiet lives. That is, they are not committing those categories of sins that could cause forfeiture of special blessings (above and beyond salvation) at the dais of Christ.
“I can’t read these verses!” say these people. To which I answer, “Then don’t! They're not for you! But don’t deny these verses to those whom they were designed to help.”
God has built into the evangel what I call “safety valves”—exhortations that serve as nudges to keep certain people away from worldly trouble for their own eonian benefit.
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MZTV 1425: Paul Puts the Sinner from Corinth in the Fast Lane of Deliverance
In 1 Corinthians 5:5 Paul delivers up a believer to Satan “for the extermination of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” Why did Paul think this was necessary? Wasn’t the “set-your-affections-on-things-above” method good enough for this man? Or was there some compelling reason to take care of the problem immediately for the benefit of the afflicted saint?
Note: Paul is exercising an apostolic gift here, a gift akin to the power required to resurrect the dead. We do not have this “emergency option” available to us today.
So please do not attempt to deliver your spouse up to Satan.
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MZTV 1424: Employing Reverse Psychology Against Passions and Lusts
In Galatians 5:24, Paul says to "crucify your passions and lusts." How does this fit with ignoring the flesh? Perfectly.
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MZTV 1423: Lay Giant Sheets of Thick Pink Insulation Between You and the Accusing Voice of Flesh
After Paul tells the Colossians in chapter three, verse 2 to "be disposed to that which is above, not to that on the earth," he tells them a mere three verses later to "deaden, then, your members that are on the earth." Don't you find it strange that a man who just told people not to mind things of earth tells them now to deaden their members that are on the earth?
It would be strange and, in fact, contradictory—unless the second use of "the earth" was the location of their members, and not where the Colossians, themselves, were to be disposed. In other words, the Colossians were to deaden these members on the earth WHILE setting their affections above the earth. But how can that be?
Does anyone imagine that Paul is saying here, "I know Jesus Christ put the old humanity to death, but now I want YOU to put it to death." Absurd.
This passage can only be a confirmation of what we've been discovering in Romans, chapter six: We deal with our flesh by ignoring it, not fighting it. It is BY tending to realms above earth that these troubling things ON earth lose their insistency. It is this loss of insistency that inspired Paul's use of the word "deaden." The flesh is deadened by a thorough and complete lack of attention to it. It dies by attrition, not demolition.
Why do you stuff large amounts of pink insulation into the walls of your house? To keep it warm? Certainly. But also to dampen (deaden) the noise without. Thus do our members on the earth become barely audible as we pack our "pink insulation" (the revelation of Christ Jesus' victory over Sin) between us and the constant nagging of our soon-to-be-disappearing flesh.
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MZTV 1422: No Longer Captives to the War Within
Even after his conversion, Paul admits that his flesh still warred against his spirit. And yet, at the end of Romans 7, he declares himself to have been delivered from captivity. If he was delivered from captivity and yet this war still waged within, just what exactly was he delivered from?
Caring about the war.
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