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Liberty Safe, Department of Homelessness & Government Shutdown (September 7, 2023)
We're loving the crew. The #LALiens. The ones in the stream chat before we go live letting us know we've a job to do. Do it we shall. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy: legal analysis as raw as the poppy fields in southwestern Asia. Hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer.
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› Liberty Safe, the company that manufacturers objects in which purchasers place items of significant personal value under lock and key, has decided it does not like running a successful business any longer. Hey, we all make our own choices.
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› New York City has a Department of Homeless Services, affectionately referred to as the Department of Homelessness. Despite that totally legitimate arbitrage of public resources into the hands of unelected bureaucrats for allocation to important areas of homelessness—such as voter registration—Mayor Eric Adams is not confident New York City will survive the migrant crisis that sees 10,000 new migrants descend into the city every calendar month.
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› The Brewers Association has 'warned' its constituent breweries of the looming government shutdown in the face of a Congressional impasse on the budget. Mike has guidance for breweries that vow not to be helpless.
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Terrorism and the Trial Tax & Constitutional Law 101: A Map of the Constitution (September 6, 2023)
Good morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy, perhaps the clearest, most salient independent voice in legal analysis and institutional legitimacy available in the western world. Thank you for being here. We are grateful.
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› Terrorism and what is known in the legal field as the "trial tax." To draw comparison to the sentencing in the Proud Boys trial, Norm and Mike question how a DC jury can acquit a defendant convicted in a UN jurisdiction for terrorism for acts connected to none other than Osama Bin Laden.
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› Constitutional Law 101: A Map of the Constitution. Installment #002.
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› Senator Sheldon Whitehead wrote a letter to Justice Samuel Alito accusing the Supreme Court Justice of 'improper opinin.' Shut up, Sheldon.
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Separation of Powers, Tortious Interference, and Affirmative Action (September 5, 2023)
Good Morning and Happy Tuesday! We trust that the Labor Day holiday treated you well. Law and Legitimacy stayed true with Norm and Mike going live at the normal time. If you need a beat, take one and catch up on yesterday's discussion.
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› A new Georgia law, S.B. 92, creates an 8-member 'Prosecuting Attorneys Oversight Commission,' which will being accepting formal complaints on October 1, 2023. Fulton County District Attorney is among the first within the crosshairs, ostensibly due to the prosecution of leading Republican candidate for President, Donald J. Trump, and 18 co-defendants. Is this formation of such a body constitutional?
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› Elon Musk posted several times yesterday indicating an impetus and willingness to sue the Anti-Defamation League (the "ADL"), which he asserts is responsible for X's cratering advertising revenues. What legal bases might Elon have?
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› Reformer and modern legend, Edward Jay Blum, has filed two (2) new lawsuits seeking to strike at the heart of affirmative action policies in the private sector. Mr. Blum is the attorney responsible for the successful outcomes at the Supreme Court this term, having representing both plaintiffs in their respective cases against Harvard and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill for discriminatory admissions practices.
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Labor Day Stream & Signature Wins (September 4, 2023)
Happy Labor Day!
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› College Football, Conference Realignment, Deion Sanders and Signature Win Stories.
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› Update from the Proud Boys Sentencing.
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› Trump, 14th Amendment, Disqualification, and Dershowitz.
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› Ball & Legitimacy Fantasy Football Draft Scheduling!
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Joe Biggs, Zach Rehl, Vivek Ramaswamy & Trump Television (September 1, 2023)
Good Morning one and all! Welcome to Law and Legitimacy, the daily law podcast hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer. You've summited another week and you're here with us. We thank you for that.
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› Joseph Biggs was sentenced to 17 years for his conviction of seditious conspiracy related to his involvement in the events of January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol. Zach Rehl, a co-defendant and fellow Proud Boy also convicted of seditious conspiracy, was sentenced to 15 years for his part. Norm debriefs and discusses.
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› Vivek Ramaswamy: "If you can't smoke an addictive cigarette until you're 18, you shouldn't be able to use an addictive social media platform by the age of 15 or 16 either. Ban it." We'll have fun with this one.
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› Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee has directed that all proceedings in the State's case against President Donald J. Trump will be televised. This is good. But why not also in federal court?
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UAW and EV, Online Speech and Bailey, CUNY Loves Diversity (August 31, 2023)
Good Morning and a Happy Thursday to you all. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy, the daily law podcast hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer that traces the contours of America's institutions as they intersect with the declining sense of the common good from the American citizenry.
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› We pick up the Bailey v. Iles decision from the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which held that the content of an individual's speech on social media was erroneously used as a basis for his subsequent arrest.
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› We also pick up on the Supreme Court of the State of New York's ruling denying defendants' motion to dismiss a religious discrimination lawsuit in Lax et al. v. CUNY et al.
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› United Auto Workers ("UAW") is threatening to strike if a deal is not reached between it and America's Big Three: General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis, by the September 14th deadline. The major concern? Electric vehicles and the current administration's plans to force the American automotive sector into unknown labor territory in its push to 'decarbonize'.
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Proud Boys Update: The Waco Approach to 'Justice' + 5th Circuit & CUNY (August 30, 2023)
Good Morning and welcome again to Law and Legitimacy. It is Hump Day. Not that that really means much when one is due to be in a D.C. federal courthouse under certain and obvious headwinds. But for now you're here with us and we're here with you. We are grateful for and thank you for that.
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› Norm updates from yesterday's developments in the Proud Boys sentencing proceedings. We're calling it, "the Waco approach to justice."
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› The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit in Bailey v. Iles appears promising for those who believe in things as quaint as the first and fourteenth amendments.
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› Jane Coleman writes for Legal Insurrection regarding a religious discrimination lawsuit launched against CUNY by 5 of the school's Orthodox Jewish professors which has survived the schools motion to dismiss and will thus proceed forward.
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Biden 5000, Proud Boys Sentencing & Smart Cities (August 29, 2023)
Good Morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy! We begin this week on a Tuesday, as Norm has arrived in D.C. to carry on with federal prosecutors once again.
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› A June 2022 National Archives response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the Southeastern Legal Foundation reveals that then Vice President Biden may have transacted through pseudonymous email accounts on more than 5,000 emails.
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› Norm's trip to D.C. is to represent two (2) Proud Boys defendants in the sentencing proceedings behind their respective convictions on charges stemming from the events of January 6, 2023. Norm updates.
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› "Smart Cities," as they have been affectionately titled, appear to be emerging in real time. In Solano County, California, a group a notable Silicon Valley tech investors has secured all the available land around Travis Air Force Base with the intent of creating a new city from scratch.
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DOJ Sues SpaceX, Trump Arrest, Return of Covidtopia (August 25, 2023)
Well. We did it. Again. Together perhaps. And that is what is most important, right? We traversed another week of the rocky terrain of our shared reality. Together. Welcome back to Law and Legitimacy, where Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer discuss our common conceptions and right and common interest, and scrutinize the declining sense of legitimacy within American institutions.
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› The United States Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against Elon Musk's SpaceX, alleging employment discrimination on behalf of U.S. persons of the asylum and refugee varieties.
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› President Donald J. Trump submitted to his arrest in Fulton County, Georgia, yesterday. He has also made a change to his defense counsel in that case.
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› What Norm has affectionately called the "Return of Covidtopia," seems to be gaining momentum. Will Americans again avail themselves of emerging closures, mask mandates, distancing, tracing, and other measures that have rapidly evolved to define an hysteric era in American history?
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Reggie Bush, Mark Meadows, Debate Night & NYC Asylum Surge (August 24, 2023)
Good Morning #LALiens! Norm and Mike welcome you to Law and Legitimacy.
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› Reggie Bush to Sue the NCAA for Defamation
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› Mark Meadows' Emergency Motion to Preclude Arrest is Denied
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› Trump Appears on Tucker on X, GOP Debate Goes Exactly as Expected
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› 3,000 More Migrants Have Arrived in New York City
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Morris Brown, Climate Religion, & Globalism v. Our Constitution (August 23, 2023)
Things be happening, don't they? It is Wednesday—Hump Day—and we welcome you to Law and Legitimacy. Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer meet every weekday morning to discuss the metes and bounds of America's fleeting conceptions of moral right and common interests. If you are a free-thinker, a contrarian, or just unafraid of wandering beyond the Overton Window, subscribe to the channel.
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› Morris Brown College is making headlines for something other than losing its accreditation, although the outcome still seems like history repeating itself.
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› Bloomberg published an opinion piece co-authored by a couple of Ivy League 2L's, illustrating the salient religiosity and blind devotion to collectivization enshrined in modern American higher education.
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New York City & Saudi Arabia, Mark Meadows, Raleigh Flag Burner (August 22, 2023)
Norm recommended the book, "Camp of the Saints," to our viewers and listeners several times before. We want to know: should LAL make a play to grab the publishing rights? Welcome one and all to Law and Legitimacy: verbal volleys between two attorneys preoccupied with societal notions of common rights and interests in a world increasingly defined by a decline in pluralism. This is the definitive space for free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid.
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› New York City's migrant crisis appears to be reaching a tipping point, with protests becoming more robust and widespread.
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› Human Rights Watch reports that hundreds of migrants have been killed by Saudi Arabian border guards.
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› Former Chief of Staff to President Donald J. Trump has motioned to dismiss the indictment brought against him by the State of Georgia.
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› A cyclist caught on surveillance camera burning a Trump flag in the front yard of a Raleigh, North Carolina, area has been identified and is being prosecuted.
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ABA & Expression, 14th Amendment, Vivek as Intellectual President (August 21, 2023)
Good Morning #LALiens! Reality has curved Norm's path away from vacation, and Law and Legitimacy is locked in for another great week. Be sure to like this video, subscribe to the channel, and follow @LawPodDaily on X! . Today: . › The American Bar Association published a proposal that aims to mandate free speech policies at accredited American law schools. Why is this necessary? . › Will the sweep and force of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the United States constitution really work without a hearing by some court of competent jurisdiction? . › Vivek Ramaswamy continues his emergence. Norm posted over the weekend that he is all in on the 38 year-old candidate for President of the United States. Will America elect an intellectual as president? . › Mark Meadows has filed a motion to dismiss the indictment against him filed by the State of Georgia, arguing that he is shielded by the Supremacy Clause, and further that the first and fourteenth amendments otherwise apply to preclude his prosecution. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!
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Robert L. Peters, Parental Rights vs. Public Schools, Proud Boys, Trump (August 18, 2023)
It feels wrong to bid congrats for merely making it through a full work week. But it feels right, too. Welcome back to Law and Legitimacy, where old souls living in the new world discuss the ebbs of flows of western morals as seen through our dominant institutions. We're glad to have you. Please like this video and make sure you're subscribed.
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› Does President Biden have a pseudonym other than 'Brandon'? Chairman of the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, James Comer, sent a letter to the National Archives yesterday requiring disclosure of any information related to the President's use of the name 'Robert L. Peters'. Who knew?
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› The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals out of Maryland voted 2-1 in favor the Montgomery County School District in a case brought by parents of students in the district who sought to overturn the school's policy against informing parents of efforts to guide students through gender and sex change.
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› Sentencing briefs have been filed in United States v. Biggs, et al. Norm will be back in D.C. next week to finish his work with the Proud Boys defendants convicted of seditious conspiracy earlier this year in connection with the events of January 6, 2021.
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› Former President Donald J. Trump continues to dominate media. The LA Times has picked up the thread LAL streamed about regarding Section 3 to the 14th Amendment, Fulton County's Finest Fani wants to schedule trial in the Georgia case for March of 2024, and Trump himself has walked back his plan to disclose his information pertaining to election interference via social media on the advice and counsel of his attorneys.
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ESG Undercover, China's A.I. Strat, Young Judges & Nonviolent Alcoholics (August 17, 2023)
It's Thursday. You're thirsty. Are those two things related? Conspiracies certainly abound. Focus up, though. Law and Legitimacy is an on-time arrival with a crazy payload. Norm and Mike are out on the tarmac:
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› Patrick Bet-David's Valuetainment published an article describing that big financial institution with a color-geology combo name's efforts to take ESG brandless. How fashionable.
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› The PRC has begun implementation of an interim policy requiring that all artificial intelligence adhere to standards precluding development of technology in a manner calculated to subvert state power and overthrow of the socialist system.
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› Who is Judge Scott McAfee? We must admit: drawing the state's case against Donald J. Trump within six months of becoming a judge is a noteworthy feat.
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› A "nonviolent alcoholic" that sits on the couch and drinks too much beer has been charged for calling Judge Chutkan's chambers and communicating threats. Is the pot boiling, or is this a unique vantage on the same sort of hysteria in another recent context?
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Michael Oher, the DeSantis Paradox, & 1A for A.I. (August 16, 2023)
Good Morning #LALiens! It's Hump Day, but this ain't a Tim O'Brien novel. This is Law and Legitimacy: the daily livestream hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer, for the free-thinkers, the contrarians, and the unafraid. Welcome to the new viewers and welcome back to the crew.
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› Michael Oher, former NFL offensive tackle and subject of the cringe 2009 biopic starring Sandra Bullock and Tim McGraw, has alleged that his adoptive family conned him into a conservatorship and they owe him money, or something.
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› The DeSantis Paradox is in full effect. The Florida Governor dismissed state prosecutor, Orlando's Monique H. Worrell, late last week for incompetence. You know us. We love that. But how do we reconcile the sheer stupidity of DeSantis' campaign for president alongside his obvious attributes and efficacy as a state-level executive?
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› "Freedom of Speech and AI Output" is an article published by Eugene Volokh, Mark A. Lemley and Peter Henderson, which argues that artificial intelligence creators should be given first amendment protections. Norm and Mike discuss.
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Standing in Montana, Fani-ng Flames in Georgia, Vivek on the March (August 15, 2023)
Good Morning #LALiens! There is very little we can say here to hedge against the rising tide of insanity, so we won't hedge. Things are insane. Top off your coffee, hit the thumb-up on the video, and share the link with a friend before we get started.
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› Held v. Montana is a Gen-Z masterpiece of astoundingly stupid proportions. Has the judiciary in Montana ever heard of standing?
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› Super-serious, extremely capable Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has charged President Donald J. Trump and a caravan of political namesakes in a criminal indictment stemming from 2020 election. For real this time. To the unredacted jurors, we salute.
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› Vivek Ramaswamy appeared on the Candace Owens Podcast late last week and really brought perspective to the meaning of professional performance. One might imagine a high school gym teacher trying to guard a young Allen Iverson's crossover from the top of the key. "I was trying to make him go left," O'Handley might say during the aftermath.
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Harbaugh, More Fourteenth, Vivek on Candace Owens Podcast (August 14, 2023)
Good Morning #LALiens! We trust you had a relaxing but productive weekend. We welcome all new viewers and listeners. Thank you for being here.
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Norm and Mike get right into it:
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› The NCAA's Committee on Infractions has rejected Michigan Head Football Coach Jim Harbaugh's negotiated resolution as previously discussed on LAL. What now?
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› More on Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution — How do allegations of rebellion and sedition portend to affect Donald J. Trump's candidacy for President of the United States?
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› Republican Candidate for President Vivek Ramaswamy appeared on Candace Owens Podcast to answer questions posed by prominent online figure, Rogan O'Handley (aka @DC_Draino). Mike watched and listened. Twice.
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Vivek Ramaswamy, Craig Robertson, 3rd & 14th Amendments (August 11, 2023)
Good Morning and Happy Friday #LALiens! Thank you for being here. If you're new, welcome. Don't be shy. Join the chat, bang that thumbs-up button, and make sure you're subscribed.
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Today, Norm and Mike discuss:
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› An emerging sentiment from the political right that Vivek's message is too on-the-nose
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› Video footage of the FBI's killing of Utah man, Craig Robertson, emerged on X yesterday. The contents of the arrest warrant on more important now than ever.
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› New law review article from William Baude and Michael Paulsen, "The Sweep and Force of Section Three, from the University Pennsylvania Law Review was published on August 9, 2023.
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Andy Ngo, Henry Ruggs, FBI in Utah & Jack Smith (August 10, 2023)
Good Morning and Happy Thursday, #LALiens! Welcome to all of our new viewers and listeners. We are grateful to have you us.
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Today, Norm and Mike discuss:
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› The outcome of Andy Ngo's civil trial against Antifa;
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› Henry Ruggs, III is sentenced in the fatal DUI incident;
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› The FBI served an arrest and search warrant in Utah, resulting in the death of the target of the warrant;
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› Jack Smith executed a warrant for Donald J. Trump's Twitter direct messages, and Elon Musk was fined $350,000.00 for his attempt to preclude the same.
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Target Shareholder Lawsuit, MKULTRA, & Jersey Swaps (August 9, 2023)
Good Morning and Happy Hump Day, #LALiens! Welcome—contrarians, free-thinkers, and the unafraid—to Law and Legitimacy with Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer.
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› America First Legal announces a shareholder lawsuit against Target Corporation putting DEI in the crosshairs.
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› Norm reviews his latest read from Tom O'Neill, "Chaos: The Truth Behind the Manson Murders." What as the CIA up to with MKULTRA?
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› Politico reports the political party changes that have occurred within elected leadership across the country during 2023. Even if one were to concede an element of political opportunism, are the partisan jersey swaps not a valuable sign of the times within the American republic?
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Trump & Lauro, Schiff, AB InBev & Tilray, Happel v. Guilford County (August 8, 2023)
Law and Legitimacy for Tuesday, August 8, 2023:
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› Trump's new legal counsel in the January 6th prosecution, John Lauro, appears to be publicly distancing himself from his client on the topic of pursuing recusal of Judge Chutkan. Norm gives his initial assessment of what such early discrepancies in the media foretell for Lauro's representation of Trump moving forward.
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› The Wall Street Journal is mad at Adam Schiff on the topic of a televised trial in United States of America v. Donald J. Trump. But is Schiff right?
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› News broke late yesterday of a fairly major deal between Canadian cannabis company, Tilray, and AB InBev—maker of Bud Light—for the latter's sale of eight (8) craft beer brands to the former. Mike has done some early stretching and is ready to climb atop the craft beer soapbox.
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› Happel v. Guilford County Board of Education is percolating in North Carolina's Court of Appeals. What sort of constitutional claim is ripe for the parents of a minor who was vaccinated against the coronavirus without the required express consent?
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NCAA, Lies & Fraud in the First Amendment, Vivek on PBD (August 7, 2023)
Good Monday morning to you all! Norm and Mike convene for another week of Law and Legitimacy:
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› Conference Realignment Version 2023: The Pac-12 becomes the Pac-4, Big Ten and Big 12 emerge as super-conferences. What gives?
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› United States of America v. Donald J. Trump portends an unprecedented case in American jurisprudence for several notable reasons. Chief among them, however, is the question of who decides the "truth," and what sort of legal standard will the Department of Justice ask the court to arbitrage in its favor?
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› Republican candidate for President of the United States, Vivek Ramaswamy, appeared on Patrick Bet-David's podcast, which turned out to be a live town hall. What did we learn?
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Televised Trials, Politics of Trump Indictment & Jury Nullification (August 4, 2023)
Law and Legitimacy with @PattisNorm & @MichaelBoyer_:
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› Televised Trials — Pros and Cons
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› The Politics of the Trump Indictment — What Happens When the Law is an Ass?
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› Jury Nullification — Is It the Mechanism that Will Save the Republic?
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LAL — Lebron & Education, Trump & Mens Rea, College Football Realignments (August 3, 2023)
Law and Legitimacy is live at 8:00 am eastern with Norm Pattis & Michael Boyer to discuss:
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› Lebron's School Performance & Primary Education in America
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› Trump Indictment: How Will ‘Mens Rea’ Impact His Defense?
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› Collegiate Conference Realignment: Media Markets at War for Streaming Revenues
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