61 Mech & Smokeshell

Marco speaks to us about his time at 61 Mechanised Infantry – an elite armour group that came to great fame during the South African Border War. He took part in Ops Sceptic where his armoured vehicle (Ratel) was shot out with many casualties amongst his friends and comrades. He, wounded, then moved to another armoured vehicle (Ratel) which was soon after also shot by enemy 14.5mm anti-aircraft guns. Marco was now seriously wounded… A fascinating conversation that continues with Kelvin Luke, 1 SAI & 61 Mech telling his side of the same events. If you have questions for Marco and Kelvin, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. Links: Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org

Chris Turner served as a G5 Gunner at Ops Hooper and Excite with 14 Field Artillery Regt and 61 Mech during 1987. Here he tells his story to Nicole Dickson. One of the great Legacy episodes. If you have questions for our guest, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. Legacy Conversations records the memories of South African Security Forces Members of all ranks, units and races. In two years, more than 500 videos were recorded and made public. We need your assistance to carry on. If you so wish, become a Patron for $5 per month which will give you access to exclusive content: - PATREON link - https://patreon.com/LegacyConversationsPatreon Donate via the PayPal link - PayPal.Me/LegacyConversations Email Nicky for interviews - nickydickson@mweb.co.za Links: Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations

Denis Coyne served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as a Ratel driver. He tells his story to us from the end of national service to doing camps including Ops Packer (a major operation). We also look at his problems since leaving the service and how he found salvation. If you have questions for Denis, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Denis's business and details: www.capelumbermarketing.co.za www.celebraterecovery.com Contact details for Celebrate Recovery. Denis Coyne – 0713534261 Mac – 0823314272 Email – macadien@me.com Email – deniscoyne3@gmail.com DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations

Denis Coyne served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as a Ratel driver. He tells his story to us from enlistment to the end of national service ending when returning to South Africa after Ops Sceptic & Smokeshell. In the next episode, we will look at his camps and much more. If you have questions for Denis, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations

A great group discussion between veterans of Operation Sceptic about the lead-up and attack on the Smokeshell base. Insight given for the first time, by the commanding officer, ret General Johan Dippenaar, discussion with leaders and soldiers injured during the battle, those involved in moving the injured out of the immediate danger zone and a Puma pilot involved in the Casevacs. One of those that you do not want to miss... If you have questions, leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. Legacy Conversations records the memories of South African Security Forces Members of all ranks, units and races. In three years, more than 650 videos were recorded and made public. We need your assistance to carry on. If you so wish, become a Patron for $5 per month which will give you access to exclusive content: - PATREON link - https://patreon.com/LegacyConversationsPatreon Donate via PayPal link - PayPal.Me/LegacyConversations Why we are leaving YouTube video https://rumble.com/v50akq5-why-legacy-conversations-are-leaving-youtube.html The Walter Vice Tragedy https://rumble.com/v503kr9-astra-zeneca-vaccine-ruins-airline-pilots-life.html For those who are unclear - the videos on YouTube will stay on YouTube (they are on Rumble also) but new videos to be published after 16 August will only be on Rumble. This will be the same for you - you click the link and go there. The Rumble videos will be announced on YouTube to give you the links. OR subscribe to our Telegram channel where all new videos are posted with their links - Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Koos Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations

SADF Ratel IFVs attacked an enemy base called "Smokeshell" during Ops Sceptic on 10 July 1980 in Southern Angola. Three vehicles were shot out almost immediately and a running battle for survival started. Two medals for bravery were issued but there were many more soldiers unrecognised. In this episode, 61 Mech Veteran and Legacy Host, Andrew Whitaker, who was also at Smokeshell Base that day, investigate and speak to the survivors in an attempt to give credit where due. If you have questions for our panel, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Andrew Whitaker, Legacy Host and 61 Mech Veteran has a few words and information on a coming event on 10 JUNE 2023 in Bloemfontein. Please attend if possible. Subscribe and click the "bell" to stay informed. Links Andrew's contact details - +27711880202 Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

SADF Ratel IFVs attacked an enemy base called "Smokeshell" during Ops Sceptic on 10 July 1980 in Southern Angola. Three vehicles were shot out almost immediately and a running battle for survival started. During March 2023, at The Mills Bomb Shell House, Durban, HP Ferreira, spoke of this attack and his struggle since then. He was wounded and thought to be dead, spending three years in military hospital with almost 100 operations on his wound since then. If you have questions for our guest, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

SADF Ratel IFVs attacked an enemy base called "Smokeshell" during Ops Sceptic on 10 July 1980 in Southern Angola. Three vehicles were shot out almost immediately and a running battle for survival started. 32Bn was there in the background and in this episode two members, Peter Williams and Gavin Myburgh tells their side of the events to 61 Mech Veteran and Legacy Host, Andrew Whitaker, who was also at Smokeshell Base. If you have questions for our panel, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

61 Mechanized Battalion was formed in 1979 and disbanded in 2005. It was a South African, fully operational battle group, and was actively involved in most cross-border military operations. The young men are now grey haired and their children assisting with fundraising efforts. One such initiative (with all profits going to the Back A Buddy Fund) is a clothing line called BORN OF 61 MECH. This is the background story. If you have questions, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to 61 Mech Causes: https://www.backabuddy.co.za/champion/project/61-mechanised-battalion-group-veterans Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

61 Mech attacked Smokeshell Base (Ops Sceptic) in July 1980. Three Ratels were shot out and many SADF members died and or were wounded. One, HP Ferreira, who served with 1 SAI, 61 Mech, was shot by a 14.5mm anti-aircraft machine gun. Since then, 1980, he had 96 operations and lives in constant pain. This is the story of the VETS visiting the scene of the attack 42 years later. A deeply moving testimonial to the horrors of war. If you have questions, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to HP's Cause: https://www.backabuddy.co.za/champion/project/61-mechanised-battalion-group-veterans Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Alternative Channel https://odysee.com/@LegacyConversations:8 Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Colonel Jan Malan served with 1 SAI, 61 Mech, and as Commander of 8SAI. During Ops Hooper he was the 4SAI Commander and is Staff qualified. A fighting soldier of note, he gives a lecture here on the South African designed and manufactured RATEL IFV - a vehicle that became famous in the Bush War and commanded by Jan Malan. It is an episode not to be missed. If you have questions for Col Jan, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations

Andrew Whitaker served with 1 SAI, 61 Mech, and took part in the attack a Smokeshell Base besides numerous other camps he attended as a rifleman despite being a chartered accountant in civilian life. He is heavily involved in Veteran Affairs and a most welcome addition to the Legacy Team. This is his background story. If you have questions for Andrew, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to HP Ferreira's Cause: https://www.backabuddy.co.za/champion/project/61-mechanised-battalion-group-veterans Book Links for Print on Demand inside South Africa: https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2969/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-1-college-days https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2970/mean-streets-life-in-the-apartheid-police-book-2-the-mean-streets https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2971/oath-of-evil-the-war-on-protestantism https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2944/code-name-butterfly https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2943/code-name-wrangler https://burbleonline.co.za/p/2942/code-name-angelique Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations This video was made possible by the donations of the SARP Special Task Force Association and Others - Thank You - https://sarp-special-task-force.co.za/

Evan Davies served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as as a mortar bomb specialist. On August 3 1982, during Ops Meebos, under command of Company Commander Capt Jan Malan, and platoon commander, Lt Pierre de Jager, Evan flew with SAAF Puma helicopters north to ambush an enemy log convoy. They left their Ratel IFVs behind operating as infantry. What followed became one of the most successful ambushes of the war. Evan later wrote a book on his time in the Army, "Teenage Safari." If you have questions for Evan, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Evan Davies book can be found at: Teenage Safari: A South African Conscript in the Border War in Angola and Namibia: Davies, Evan: 9781911512936: Amazon.com: Books https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Safari-African-Conscript-Namibia/dp/1911512935 Teenage Safari: A South African Conscript in the Border War in Angola and ... - Evan Davies - Google Books https://books.google.co.za/books/about/Teenage_Safari.html?id=9WIxxQEACAAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

HP Ferreira served with 1 SAI, 61 Mech, and took part in the attack a Smokeshell Base where he was shot by a 14.5mm anti-aircraft machine gun. Since then, 1980, he had 96 operations and live in constant pain. This is his story as well as those helping him. If you have questions for HP and mates, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to HP's Cause: https://www.backabuddy.co.za/champion/project/61-mechanised-battalion-group-veterans Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations

Paul Louw served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as a platoon commander. His Ratel IFVs attacked an enemy base called "Smokeshell" during Ops Sceptic on 10 July 1980. Three vehicles were shot out almost immediately and a running battle for survival started. One of his men, Gareth Rutherford, won the Honoris Crux as an ops medic in the next few hours (see SADF playlist for Gareth). Paul, as the local commander, tells his side of the story to us in a way that is both fascinating and endearing. If you have questions for Col Louw, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Pierre de Jager and Jan Malan served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as platoon & company commanders. On August 3 1982, during Ops Meebos, Jan Malan took Pierre de Jager's platoon and flew with SAAF Puma helicopters north to ambush an enemy log convoy. They left their Ratel IFVs behind operating as infantry. What followed became one of the most successful ambushes of the war. This is their story. If you have questions for Pierre and Jan, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Reg Walkerley served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech. In this episode, he tells us about the "Dogs of War" - A Veteran Motorcycle Riders Association that does tremendous things for veterans. Most, 90% of the bike members are veterans themselves. If you have questions for Reg Walkerley, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: www.thedogsofwar.co.za DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Gareth Rutherford served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as an Ops Medic where he won the Honoris Crux medal for bravery. He tells his story to us in a way that is both fascinating and endearing. A man that is a living legacy of courage and hope. In this second episode, he goes into more detail on life and dealing with life, the good and bad. If you have questions for Gareth, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: Contact Gareth at rutherfordgareth@gmail.com for speaking gigs. DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Gareth Rutherford served with 1 SAI and 61 Mech as an Ops Medic where he won the Honoris Crux medal for bravery. He tells his story to us in a way that is both fascinating and endearing. A man that is a living legacy of courage and hope. There will be more episodes. If you have questions for Gareth, please leave them below. Subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. LINKS: DONATE to Legacy - https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/LegacyConversations Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org Legacy on Telegram - https://t.me/legacyconversations To Advertise on Legacy https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rCaM8ytISNxOG9QESp_AXq4Kf73hFtWN/view?usp=sharing

Ons praat met Majoor Generaal Roland de Vries, 61 Meg en heelwat meer senior posisies. Hy is ‘n SAW legende. Roland praat oor die Ratel IFV en dan oor na die veiligheid situasie in Suid Afrika en wat gedoen moet (nie kan, moet) word om te oorleef. Moenie die episode mis nie. Dis belangrik dat soveel mense moontlik bereik word met sy boodskap en kennis. Teken in asb om ingelig te word van nuwe episodes. Merk die klokkie vir outomatiese opdatering. Dankie. Links: Koop “Veiligheid vir Gemeenskappe” dmv Tertia Swart by +27 78 648 8616 f gaan direk na www.naledi.co.za. Die boek kos R295 afgelewer in Suid Afrika. Sy ander boeke, bv “Eye of the Firestorm” is aanlyn by https://www.helion.co.uk and https://www.warbooks.co.za. Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org George M James – www.georgemjames.com Legacy Conversations – www.legacy-conversations.org

Major General Roland de Vries speaks to us about his time in the South African Army (1964- 1999). In this episode, he gives us the background to himself and a brief overview of his distinguished military career besides what happened after he resigned as Deputy Chief of the Army. He tells us about his current community safety projects which are essential to everyone living in South Africa or who have family there. General de Vries gives an overview of where South Africa stands from a security viewpoint. The situation is serious, and you need to be prepared for what is coming. Don’t miss this episode, it will save lives. Spread it as far as possible. A fascinating conversation. If you have questions for the General, leave them below. Please subscribe and activate the bell to be informed of new episodes. Also, look at the links below where his books can be ordered. Links: To buy “Veiligheid vir Gemeenskappe” contact Tertia Swart at +27 78 648 8616 or order directly at www.naledi.co.za. The book costs R295 including courier costs The other books, including “Eye of the Firestorm” are available at https://www.helion.co.uk and https://www.warbooks.co.za Sponsor - www.georgemjames.com Website - www.legacy-conversations.org