The Goal Post with Robert Brockway and Vernon Meigs

Took a break last weekend due to busy schedules. Also apologies from Vernon - running on 3hrs of sleep or less and was very easily distracted and exhausted. A common theme among most of the subjects today was governmental bodies being untrustworthy and making constantly bad decisions. 1. Surgical castration in Louisiana, with reference to the subject of chemical castration. 2. Koori Courts - a special court for indigenous Australians. We speak on the problem of ethnic courts such as this. 3. Vernon speaks about inappropriate tweets about and texts to a 12 year old male backup dancer in 2019 by Takemura Kiriko (best known as Kyary Pamyu Pamyu) and the fact that the general response to it was a small fraction of what it would have been if the sexes were reversed. 4. JK Rowling doesn't appear to see the problem in itself of UK law defining rape as commited by men only. 5. Trump assassination attempt on the 13th, and questions about SS performance. 6. Additional clarifications and nuance on misunderstood differences between West and East regarding taboos. 7. Zoe McLellan

Subjects for this episode including but not limited to: 1. The Old State Saloon and "Heterosexual Awareness Month" and free beers to heterosexual men. 2. Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavior in Victoria - we urge men to leave that state. 3. Bionca Ellis stabs 3 year old boy to death in a random attack 4. Political violence against: Nigel Farage and Senator Fraser Anning 5. Physical comedy being just as valid as "wit-based" comedy 6. Pointless erratas to Magic: the Gathering cards.

We talk about how it's been 10 years since the Elliot Rodger shooting and how that incidient has been used to malign MRAs even though the perpetrator was in every respect an anti-MRA who killed more men than women. We then speak about the attention given to an altercation between two minors Kaylee Gain and Maurice Declue highlighting the ever-inescapable reality that women can definitely be violent. We speak a little on how bad Hollywood movies have become, and a few of the differences of Hollywood actors then and now. We speak more about conscription and selective service, and make more arguments for how it should be applied as a both or neither situation, and how women who revert to "trad" roles while having been feminists hold men in nothing but contempt and are not in fact anti-war. We also talk a little about retirement of Takeru Kobayashi from the world of competitive eating, which somehow leads into a discussion about roundabouts (?!?) All in all, we get a lot on this time.

We have a short episode today discussing the "Two women a week" false notion in Australia, and then we talk about the silliness that is the "bears" discourse in social media nowadays. We talk a little about something related to mothers' day, and some thoughts on the rebranding of the Boy Scouts and a tangent about female spaces hypocrisy. We forgot this last bit again, even after we said we'd say it at the end: "As of February 2024 a warrant is outstanding for the arrest of Zoe McLellan in relation to charges of kidnapping, child stealing and child custody deprivation. McLellan was reportedly residing in an apartment in River Ridge, Louisiana in April 2021. McLellan has wealthy family in Louisiana and may still be residing there. Prior to disappearing McLellan was known to use the alias Sarah Chandler. Anyone with any relevant information should contact the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office."

We trade some thoughts regarding democracy, on the possibility of a non-vote or abstention being a vote or statement in itself, the fact that you are actually obligated to vote in places like Australia, and how democracy is supposed to be a tool for a civilized society and not the be all end all of such a society itself. We have some dialogue on politics, in particular the difference between the often conflated notions of proactive immigration and open borders. We talk about tertiary education, and how men are (wisely) opting out of it.

Rob starts off talking about the Father Tongue Hypothesis, in which children are more likely to take on their fathers' language than their mothers', which leads into a discussion about how sons and daughters take on the political leanings of their parents. We talk about the sordid state of Star Trek, with ST: Enterprise the last series we can actually call good Trek, and we make the case that Trek is, in fact, dead, and can't be resurrected. We then close off with a discussion on the anti-woke Left, which is known to actually exist.

Rob starts off talking about the unfair treatment Peter III has had by historians as well as the undue praise of his wife the usurper Catherine II ("the Great"). We speak more about the inanity of "matriarchy theory" and how neither matriarchy or patriarchy was ever a thing like feminists and in turn, the tradcons claim respectively. Vernon talks about Gad Saad whose has gone on to make clear his feelings about male genital mutilation, that is, how it is *not* equivalent to female genital mutilation and claim anybody who does rightly equate the two as "imbeciles". We react.

Today Rob talks about historical female mystics under the context that they were taken seriously into consideration in political life and most of them were active enough in politics, again contradicting the notion that women in history were the oppressed class who can do nothing. Vernon also talks about his gripes with the concept of altruism, and we discuss the Victorian Fallacy which is Rob's work in progress book and the notion that the Victorian era was what it all seemed to be. Rob wants to include this last bit because we often forget that he has to say it at the end of each video! "As of February 2024 a warrant is outstanding for the arrest of Zoe McLellan in relation to charges of kidnapping, child stealing and child custody deprivation. McLellan was reportedly residing in an apartment in River Ridge, Louisiana in April 2021. McLellan has wealthy family in Louisiana and may still be residing there. Prior to disappearing McLellan was known to use the alias Sarah Chandler. Anyone with any relevant information should contact the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s office."

In today's episode of The Goal Post Rob talks a bit about the case of Lord Lucan and the murder he was accused of committing but with pieces not adding up. We also talk about a list of women who were historic examples of women working alongside men that throw a wrench into both the feminist and tradcon notions of "Women were always stay at home moms and didn't have to do any work like the men did" and "Women were prevented from working due to male oppression" respectively. We speak a bit about draft policies in nations, in particular that of Israel in which women can check a "religious" status to become exempt from the draft whereas the men cannot, and how the lid is being blown off of it recently.

We apologize again for the delay in getting a new episode out - Rob was sick again last week after his vacation. Rob talks about Robert Heinlein and his uncanny declaration of what he called "the Crazy Years" but we tend to call "Clown World", we speak about people who speak of if not espouse Red Pill ideas without being Red Pillers (and often not without disparaging Red Pill in the same breath anyway) and we make clear once again that if you talk about Red Pill, you have to talk about us in the actual Men's Rights sphere, not PUA types who pretend to be Red Pill. V rants about Carl Benjamin ("Sargon of Akkad") and his tirade against men who rightly expect women to "bring something to the table" as well as his remark that the transactional element in relationships is a millenial phenomenon, which we respond and say that historically it never wasn't, and is not even undesirable. Rob talks about female supremacists and documenting their words on Wiki4Men.

We're recording in the same time zone today! Rob talks about his time touring DC here in the states, then we briefly discuss the trend over the past few years of feminists sites dropping off and disappearing. A good sign, or should we not rest on our laurels yet? We warn about the impending alliance between traditional gynocentrists and feminists united against their manosphere boogeyman, and we critique "former MRAs" that are so on the basis of religion. We address the often-lobbed accusation by tradgyn grifters that "Red Pill and the Men's Movement is just the male version of feminism", and we have point by point counterarguments. Listen, and be enlightened.

Has Vernon been giving his all in this show? He worries otherwise, and wants to be as active as he can on this show! Rob talks about some updates to the Zoe McLellan situation including allegedly policy-based censorship and restrictions by Wikipedia on the actress's article there. There have been shenanigans on "X Twitter" with women being triggered on "X Twitter" from Charlotte Proudman to Shoeonhead. Other subjects include the Stay At Home Mother Complex, we mention International Men's Day and how more will be done from AVFM in the future with it, and Vernon shows off a new game he recently got into.

Short episode today, as we are both tired folk. Rob came back from the New Zealand Menz Summit this year and talks about his New Zealand visit. We also mention the Lucy Letby conviction and possible retrial and the horde of defenders saying she didn't commit the infant murders, and a few other subjects!

In Episode 25 we talk about countering the common narrative that physical labor by men is the reason that civilization is what it is. Instead, we argue that man's drive to make things more convenient, in other words man's capacity to innovate and enable automation, is the real masculine driving force of civilization. We also talk about why men do these things (hint: it's not to impress and serve women!) We also talk about some details about Zoe McLellan, an actress who has been wanted for a few years for kidnapping her son (his father has sole legal custody of the son) and would like to raise awareness. We mention that Rob has tried to include information on Wikipedia however that information kept getting taken down.

(Note from us at The Goal Post - Some problems with the recording today caused the audio, particularly on Rob's side, to be much rougher than usual. You can still hear and understand him but the quality is such that no amount of audio editing will really make it better, so the full audio is presented as is. Depsite this we hope you enjoy this episode for what it is) Hold your judgments regarding the title folks - there is a context for this. In today's episode we talk about the question "Is Society F***ed" and try to come up with some answers. Lots to unpack here, we discuss the loose definition of "society" in this case whether it means the immediate community, the nation, "The West", or the world over; we talk about what exactly it means for society to be "F***ed" and who gives what kind of solutions and what motives, and a possible conclusion we entertain is that regarding societal collapse, there are no victims only volunteers, so therefore if society does collapse, it chose to (hence, Society Can F Itself) but it absolutely doesn't have to and isn't doomed to (hence, Or Not). We also talk a bit about revisiting Gillette's shares after their early 2019 woke ad and how they've never realistically recovered from that, as well as Japan's problems as a society and how they very well are capable of F***ing themselves.

Today we talk about how we found that the SPLC had de-listed AVFM from their list of "male supremacist hate groups" practically because Rob is now the leader of AVFM, however we do mention what's taken its place. We get the Lauren Southern stuff out of the way because we've put it off for too long and talk about her and others who cry "woe is me" when they think about the consequences of their own activism. All this and more, tune in and enjoy!

We talk about women's suffrage, the vote in general in the political sense, some (like H. Pearl Davis) who opine that women shouldn't have the vote, and share our thoughts on that as well as our own opinion regarding that. Robert talks a little about demographic collapse, as well as the notion of men and women "having it all" or "getting it all".

We confront the mentality that uses mixed and inconsistent definitions of 'the Patriarchy' and those who still insist that men's spaces aren't a real concept.

We are back on this new episode to discuss a perplexing yet sadly not too surprising phenomenon of men in disbelief that that their own (male) spaces have been invaded for a long time, women's ease of access to those spaces historically, and also Robert rattles through more feminist-established falsehoods and premises, some of which feminists have even admitted to being nonsense, and some which conservatives and even some other anti-feminists buy into.

In today's episode we talk primarily about the phenomenon of 'women only' places whether it is in transport, spaces like hotels, concerts and various others. We point out the irony in the fact that men have made possible their infrastructure and operation, and also that perhaps men should stop lending a hand to build things that are meant to exclude and unperson them as men. We speak on gynocentrists' unintentional(?) attempt to conflate femaleness with disability. We talk more about "What Men Do" and revisit examples we've spoken about and also some new ones. We give another reminder that mere anti-feminism is never enough; it is long past due that we graduate from only talking about feminism and move on to anti-gynocentrism across the board.

We talk in this episode about a recent profile piece made against Paul Elam by the SPLC accusing him of being a "male supremacist" and other unfounded claims, also a bit about the a certain list of words that are being watched for on a list that can put you in suspicion of being a violent incel or something to that effect. Robert has more things to say about casual misandry in this world.

Rob goes through some important facts that are essential for new MRAs to know, that may not come as a surprise to seasoned MRAs but may be surprising to anyone outside the movement that is listening. A standout is the historical fact that women did, in fact, work in the past in contrast to the "feminine role" expectation of many tradcons in which they practically laze about and parasite off of their men. Others include the oft-visited subject of prisons, disparity in grading equally performing boys and girls in schools (can you guess in which favor?) and more.

In Episode 16 we talk about how a school in Belgium (Koninklijke Atheeneum) forced the male students to stand while they females got to sit, and we draw comparisons to Australia's Brauer College (https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Brauer_College) as well as the oft-seen trope of men going on their knees/bowing before womankind. We talk about the very existence of women's sports and whether sporting itself is meant to be a male realm or not, and ask the questions - are women in sports an intrusion into a male space altogether, are there women's sports worth watching for any reason, and why conservatives are so defensive of women's sports all of a sudden nowadays. We discuss an academic paper that cites material from many in the men's movement including both of us. To that we say - thanks for the publicity! We trade thoughts on environmentalism and talk about the professional complainers (e.g. Greta Thunberg) vs people who actually do something productive regarding it (https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Boyan_Slat). She gets the Nobel Peace Prize; He didn't.

We start off with a very brief mention of Esther Vilar, who was physically attacked back in the day for blowing the lid off of gynocentrism: https://avoiceformen.com/featured/heres-what-happened-to-esther-vilar-after-she-angered-feminists/ Thanks to Peter Wright for publishing the article. We then spend a great deal of today's episode talking about the murder of a social justice warrior and we lead up into the subject of crime, corporal punishment, capital punishment (note: Vernon confuses the two at first) and the psychological implications of imprisonment, also related subjects such as feminists' desire to eliminate women's prisons. Just a heads up, we plan on talking about the subject of transmaxxing in our next episode and get a guest on from that community to speak with! https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Transmaxxing