Theory Underground

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

We dedicate this work to the current president of Boise State University, Dr. Tromp. We hope that it being made accessible to the busy faculty and administration of today's hectic "modern research university" will mean it is more likely to be heard and taken to heart. If you wish to listen to this in dialogue with others who are reading, writing, lecturing, and having conversations about the Idea of the University, then join our course today: https://theory-underground.com/courses/TIOTU The Van Goghified School of Athens thumbnail was made by Dave.

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

Karl Jaspers' The Idea of The University is a POSITIVE critique. How is that possible? Find out from three educators who have a vested interest in bettering social institutions committed to education for its own sake, beyond profit and politics. Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching The Idea of the University. This primary work is short, relatively accessible, and absolutely essential. What better way to kick off the new year than by beginning and finishing a short work?” Starts next weekend! Sign up here https://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu/ ABOUT / CREDITS / LINKS Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

Žižek came under harsh criticism this week. This happens every couple years. Usually the theory people in academia just tuck their heads down and keep on trucking. But not us. The Young Žižekians assemble to set the record straight. Not because we think he needs us to, but because we, as four vocal supporters doing public and independent philosophy, feel the need to make sure anyone new to theory doesn't get our reasons or interest twisted. We love Žižek, but that does not mean he is beyond criticism. It is just a sad reality that the "criticism" aimed at him is not of quality. Whether you are working a wage labor job, working out in the gym, playing video games, driving, or whatever, join us for this livestream. It's going to be a riot. If you missed the last time we did a stream over on the Que Vuoi channel, you can go watch that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO4ztWebQEE&t=9s ABOUT / CREDITS / LINKS Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

Week in review. What you need to know. Keeping it short and to the point.

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

As a way of launching 2023 Theory Underground is publishing short episodes on introduction to Lacan and Žižek. These conversations are between Michael Downs and David McKerracher AKA Mikey from The Dangerous Maybe Blog and Dave, who formerly went by Theory Pleeb. Consider this a refresher for the upcoming course Mikey is teaching with Dave on Žižek's For They Know Not What They Do: https://theory-underground.com/courses/FTKNWTD Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. We want to honor quality questions, not bury them. We want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

ABOUT: Internet etiquette, expectations, boundaries, and critical media theory about attention economy platforms and the toxic dynamics they normalize, especially the ones that make us feel responsible to Respond-On-Demand, i.e. Heidegger's concept "enframing" is brought up to talk about how we are made into a standing reserve for the pseudo recognition industry. Welcome to the Theory Underground. Theory Underground aims to make challenging philosophical and theoretical work accessible, not by summarizing, but by aiding those who seek to engage in this work as a way of life. The website will be seeing big time improvements every day. If you want to help out, you can try using it and give me feedback at theorypleeb@gmail.com If you take a course or join a discussion, there will be a group with dedicated forums on the website. Because fuck Discord. I want to honor quality questions, not bury them. I want to honor people who actually read as opposed to staying glued to their phones all day, so we aren't going to become reliant on a "community" app that is so attention-demanding. Forums give people time to think and come back later to ask questions or add to discussions. Help beta trial this at https://theory-underground.com/ Check out the courses, patron tiers and books, as well as events listed at these links: https://theory-underground.com/courses https://theory-underground.com/support https://theory-underground.com//events Also the Theory Underground instagram and TikTok are both where it's happening: https://www.instagram.com/theory_underground/ https://tiktok.com/@theory_underground MUSIC CREDITS Logo sequence music by https://olliebeanz.com/music https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

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Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.

Dave is releasing an audiobook chapter of Karl Jasper's The Idea of the University each day until Christmas! If you find this work interesting and would like to go deeper, then sign up for the course Dave, Bryan, and Ann are teaching at http://theory-underground.com/courses/tiotu The course begins January 14th, 2023 Credits: Songs made available by FMA: Audiorezout - Winter Morning Scott Holmes Music - Silent Night 🕯️❄️ Everything else was recorded, edited, and produced by Dave.