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Meet Lacie and Krissie. Lacie tells us about her daughter's autism and other struggles, how that inspired Lacie to higher learning, and how a sudden incident that brought on noise induced seizures with an onset of Tourettes affected their family. Learn what happened and how to protect your family from a similar incident. A special thank you to our sponsor Neural Balance with Anandanol. Anandanol is a patented herbal/mineral/vitamin blend that helps support natural calm, focus, and sleep for people on and off the Spectrum. You can learn more here: www.neuralbalance.com 00:00:00:03 - 00:00:00:08 Speaker 1 Thank you for joining us. We have a great guest today. 00:00:03:13 - 00:00:16:29 Speaker 1 one of the main reasons I asked Lacie on was she had a pretty tragic incident happen with her daughter, Krissie, at a place that you normally wouldn't expect something like that to happen. 00:00:17:01 - 00:00:46:06 Speaker 1 And something that occurs all the time is what triggered it. So we're going to talk a little bit about that today, too. My name is Gabriel Williams and I'm the CEO of Spectrum Research Group. We are the makers of Neural Balance with Anandanol. Anandanol is a patented herbal mineral vitamin blend that was created to help kids with calm, focus, sleep, anxiety, sensory overload, things like that. 00:00:46:06 - 00:00:49:28 Speaker 1 So we'll talk a little bit about that today. If you want to learn how Anandanol 00:00:49:28 - 00:01:06:26 Speaker 1 works, you can just check out our website Neural balance dot com and click on the How it Works tab. You can also, of course, learn more about us on Facebook. And if you want to interact with other parents, get some support. Find out what strategies they use to help their children flourish. 00:01:06:26 - 00:01:27:19 Speaker 1 And maybe if you have a strategy that you can share yourself, check out our Facebook group, Neural Balance Support. You can check out the Spectrum Report TV on YouTube. And of course, if you want to head over to Rumble, we do have a page there that has some uncensored content stuff that would get us in trouble on YouTube or Facebook. 00:01:27:19 - 00:01:31:29 Speaker 1 What we think might be helpful to you. So you can check us out there. 00:01:31:29 - 00:01:49:19 Speaker 1 And I would like to introduce now Lacie to the show. She's going to tell us a little bit about her journey. Her daughter, Krissie, as I mentioned, a particular incident that happened to them as they were just out enjoying a weekend 00:01:49:19 - 00:01:49:29 Speaker 1 00:01:50:01 - 00:01:58:14 Speaker 1 We're going to talk a little bit about like about that. And without further ado, I would like to introduce Lacie. Hi, Lacie. How are you doing? 00:01:58:14 - 00:02:00:08 Speaker 2 Hello. I'm good. How are you? 00:02:00:10 - 00:02:15:10 Speaker 1 I'm doing all right and looking forward to this. So thank you for being willing to talk with us. Now, you you've been a long time user, Chris. He's been using neural balance now for about five, five and a half years. Usually half. 00:02:15:10 - 00:02:15:23 Speaker 2 Years. 00:02:15:29 - 00:02:18:06 Speaker 1 Okay. And how old is she now? 00:02:18:08 - 00:02:22:08 Speaker 2 She is a little over seven. Her birthday was in September. 00:02:22:11 - 00:02:46:09 Speaker 1 Okay, So I guess I'll ask you kind of tell us your story like or how did you why did you seek a diagnosis? How did you figure out that she needed extra support? Kind of bring us up to speed. If you were meeting another parent for the first time and you were kind of given her your background so you could give her some support, let us know. 00:02:46:12 - 00:03:10:17 Speaker 2 When Krissie was born, her sugar didn't register at all on any device in the hospital and she was a limp rag doll. Nobody could tell me what was wrong besides that her sugar was too low. So we were in the Nick u for I think it was 14, 17 days, something like that. And she had stopped breathing at one point. 00:03:10:20 - 00:03:31:02 Speaker 2 She still didn't really cry very much. Nobody still could explain anything to me and once they got her sugar up and going, we were able to take her home with proper training and CPR classes. And we also had to have a heart device that we took home with us to stay with us for a while. And I thought it was really weird. 00:03:31:02 - 00:03:59:03 Speaker 2 When I got her home, she slept all the time. I would have to wake her up to feed her every feeding. It was like she was never hungry. She didn't ever have any issues. She didn't move very much. And that continued her whole entire infant life. And no doctor could explain anything to me why she was this way, that it was probably just because of the sugar issue. 00:03:59:05 - 00:04:34:19 Speaker 2 And Krissie had all of her jabs throughout her whole infancy. And when she was she was just almost 12 months old. And I took her in to the doctors to have those done. And when I took her in, my child at 12 months, almost 12 months old, was walking, saying words. She could walk up stairs, she could hold her own bottle like she was doing decently well. 00:04:34:21 - 00:04:50:28 Speaker 2 And I took her in there. She had what she needed to have, and I had to carry my child out of the doctor's office. And she just didn't respond. 00:04:50:28 - 00:05:18:06 Speaker 1 I'm curious because something that I hear a lot is when they brought their child in for those certain milestone visits where they do get certain jabs and things like that, I hear often The perfect storm is my child is already sick and I had been on antibiotics and when we got in there they said, well, we're going ahead and do this. 00:05:18:06 - 00:05:45:29 Speaker 1 It's safe, but we'll give them some acetaminophen, acetaminophen to bring down any fever, discomfort and those three things together. I hear often from parents that say, like you did, my kid was different from one moment for the next, one day to the next. Everything changed and those three things occurred often together. Is that the case? What you're seeing here? 00:05:46:02 - 00:06:10:22 Speaker 2 At the point when I had taken her and Krissie had only ever been sick one time, and it was just an inner ear infection and it was probably about three months before that. It was the only time I ever had to take her in for anything before this issue happened. And at that time she was like, I try to do as much even before we found out as natural as possible, even in my life. 00:06:10:24 - 00:06:36:04 Speaker 2 So I didn't give her Tylenol and Advil and a whole bunch of things, even when she was teething, because, you know, I just I did more natural frozen fruits and those little teethers and stuff. And it worked okay for her, but the jabs didn't work. Okay. But afterwards, I found out that there's a thing called the heifer gene. 00:06:36:07 - 00:06:52:19 Speaker 2 And if I would have known and she could have been tested, I would have known that it's not a good idea to get the MMR vaccine along with all the others when you have the empty heifer gene. 00:06:52:22 - 00:07:13:06 Speaker 1 so I knew that there was a correlation between how their body breaks down and utilizes B vitamins B in particular. But I didn't realize that the MTA for gene mutation also had a problem in relation to the jabs. 00:07:13:08 - 00:07:55:12 Speaker 2 Yeah I, i. I will never. And when I explain everything to people, I will never be somebody to say jabs cause autism because I know that's not the case. But I will say they amp things up, they bring on some symptoms and my child is absolute proof that that happened. And if during the whole time before that second place, before that, if a doctor just would have informed me that they could have tested her for MTA fr, I would have already been researching it and I would have known this stuff before I took her in. 00:07:55:14 - 00:08:08:18 Speaker 1 Do you know what's the alternative? So if you have your child tested and you find that they do have the MTA for gene mutation, do they do things differently? Do they spray amounts them? 00:08:08:18 - 00:08:23:26 Speaker 2 Yes. You can space the MMR vaccine with I think it's influenza and one other one, you have to spaced them out within an hour. 00:08:23:29 - 00:08:26:21 Speaker 1 So she got the MMR at 12 months. 00:08:26:23 - 00:08:31:00 Speaker 2 They gave it to her and then they got mad at me. 00:08:31:03 - 00:08:32:11 Speaker 1 Why? 00:08:32:13 - 00:08:54:01 Speaker 2 Because I wouldn't take her back in for any others. And they dropped me as a patient and they even I asked them not to. At the time. My other daughter was 15, 14 years old and I had asked them not to give her that jab and I had taken her in for another one that she had needed at that time. 00:08:54:03 - 00:09:11:20 Speaker 2 And they actually gave her the MMR jab and she passed out cold on the doctor's floor. And right then, right when they gave it to her, she just passed that. And she doesn't ever they were like, kids do that all the time. And I was like, No, she doesn't. 00:09:11:22 - 00:09:14:05 Speaker 1 And kids might, but she doesn't. 00:09:14:07 - 00:09:15:29 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:09:16:02 - 00:09:20:27 Speaker 1 And did she have any long term after effects that you're aware of? 00:09:20:29 - 00:09:48:16 Speaker 2 I think now she she's she'll tell you she's a little off sometimes after that had happened she she forgets things a lot and we'll joke back and forth because you know in our household the things we deal with daily is autism and ADHD and things like that. So sometimes I'll look at her and I'll be like, Maybe you need test it. 00:09:48:18 - 00:09:57:29 Speaker 2 Like maybe we just need to see and she'll laugh it off and I'll laugh it off. But you know, it's a reality. Sometimes people don't even know that they have it. 00:09:57:29 - 00:10:07:14 Speaker 1 And I think that's the case. And a lot of a lot of it, especially when you get into the realm of what we would call high, it's hard to 00:10:07:14 - 00:10:22:18 Speaker 1 it's hard to know what the correct terminology is this week. But. Right. I know we're we're not seeing Asperger's anymore. Now. We say high functioning. But then I've also been told that high functioning, low functioning can be a potential problem. 00:10:22:18 - 00:10:53:00 Speaker 1 So I don't know. But I think a lot of times the people who are very smart and a little quirky are often on the spectrum high functioning and and maybe just don't realize it. So it might be more prevalent even than people realize. Right. But that's why we do things like this, though, because, you know, when I first started working with this company, Rainman was about the extent of my understanding, and that's nothing, you know? 00:10:53:01 - 00:11:13:15 Speaker 1 So we want to do everything we can to bring awareness to not only people who are dealing with it, but people who don't know about it, but might have the opportunity to be helpful to someone or something like that. So so they what was the recovery like after that? I mean. 00:11:13:18 - 00:11:15:25 Speaker 2 You guys were my recovery. 00:11:15:28 - 00:11:18:25 Speaker 1 you started with Neural balance. Like right away. 00:11:18:29 - 00:11:54:08 Speaker 2 She was about a year and a half old when I started because nobody could give me any answers. Nobody I knew a week after probably what the issue was and what I needed to start researching, she became completely nonverbal. Like she she didn't even really make very many noises and all textures had started bothering this child while she was eating like mashed potatoes and yogurt and cottage cheese, which were things that she absolutely loved. 00:11:54:11 - 00:12:24:25 Speaker 2 And I, before Chris even came along, I had previously worked in an autism school, which was absolutely crazy that my past had tied into this. I had actually babysat an autistic little boy when I was in high school. I had at the time that Krissie came along, I had my teaching degree already and I went through some special education classes, so I knew what I was looking at very fast. 00:12:24:28 - 00:12:52:15 Speaker 2 And when no doctor could help me out, I mean, the county that we live in, in Michigan isn't up to date. I guess will say their special needs things in the county. And so I just started researching everything that I could, and I don't even know it had to have been on Facebook or a Google search that I did or something. 00:12:52:15 - 00:13:23:16 Speaker 2 And I found you guys and I watched almost every video you guys had on your page, and I cried along with the other parents. And I took the jump and I said, We're going to do this. We have to do this. This is hopefully going to change our lives forever. And it besides the big storm in the beginning, it has been absolutely wonderful. 00:13:23:18 - 00:13:36:26 Speaker 1 So, you know, when you first started, then I don't even think we have the capsules yet. So if she had suddenly become such a picky eater, was it difficult for you to get her to drink the drink powder At first. 00:13:36:29 - 00:13:59:16 Speaker 2 No, because, Kristie, she's her entire life. Besides, when she was a baby taking bottles, the only thing that she'll drink is juice. And still, even though she's seven, I water it down with like three quarters water and a quarter juice. So when I would put that into her juice, it kind of just I can take a drink of it and I can't even hardly tell that it's there. 00:13:59:18 - 00:14:38:21 Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, a lot of people like it just mixed with water because it kind of tastes like a fruit punch or whatever, but good clean stuff. So. So how have you and how do you reintroduce different textures of foods and different things like that to her? I mean, that, that I mean, your whole life changed overnight. So lately there was and, you know, other parents I talked to, they see gradual changes or they the way that their child is developing from the get go, things are a little different, a little quirky or whatever. 00:14:38:21 - 00:14:53:06 Speaker 1 But the overnight change that you experienced, I do hear that as well sometimes. And the the common thing that I hear is that it's just such a jolt. I mean, everything literally changes. You have a different. 00:14:53:06 - 00:15:18:13 Speaker 2 It was insane. We couldn't listen to music anymore. No more movies on TV. I have to. Well, now she knows how to spell some words, so I have to change the word. She can't watch people cry o can't hear people cry. So to find a show on a TV that has no singing, no music, no loud noises, no fighting, no crying, we don't watch TV, right? 00:15:18:16 - 00:15:37:16 Speaker 2 She can't deal with any of that. We're really lucky if she finds a song that we like on the radio. So like, Mama only gets to watch a movie or listen to the radio if Krissie stays with Grandma and then Krissie can't be away from me for more than about 3 hours without having a complete meltdown. So I. 00:15:37:18 - 00:15:43:12 Speaker 2 It's me and Krissie, right? Single mom and, yeah. 00:15:43:15 - 00:16:08:01 Speaker 1 They're doing a great job, so yeah, you're doing a great job. So what what kind of changes did you see in her? Because when you started giving her neural balance, you were also doing other things. So I don't want anybody to think that, you know, neural balances is the cure or it's the end all, be all. It's part of many things. 00:16:08:01 - 00:16:12:12 Speaker 1 It's there's a lot of moving parts to having an autistic child. And we knew it was a. 00:16:12:12 - 00:16:29:08 Speaker 2 Huge part in the beginning, like it was my one of the first things I say, I will say the whole tumor or two week storm, you guys talk about and I'll ever tell anybody any different. That is the most trying time in your life. 00:16:29:10 - 00:16:29:21 Speaker 1 Right? 00:16:29:22 - 00:16:50:10 Speaker 2 And I cried probably every single night. She cried every day. We stuck it out. I wasn't going to stop because I knew that it just had to get better from there. There was no way that we were going to go down, right? So I just kept giving it to her. I mean, she she had days and days where she would hardly sleep at all. 00:16:50:13 - 00:17:19:00 Speaker 2 And then she would sleep all night long. And I'd be like, yes, finally she's sleeping all night long. And then, you know, she would like things would change off and on. The first thing that I seen that I knew I couldn't give up was she started walking up steps again and her coordination was kind of coming back. She couldn't after that day of the jabs, there was no stairs involved in this kid's life. 00:17:19:00 - 00:17:23:22 Speaker 2 We had to carry her up and down them for months. 00:17:23:24 - 00:17:28:23 Speaker 1 Was she unwilling or unable or like she kind of forgot how to navigate them? 00:17:28:27 - 00:17:55:27 Speaker 2 It was almost like when she would look down, she would get vertigo and she'd go to try to step up the steps and it was like her feet wouldn't even work. She was anchored naked and clumsy. She was so clumsy. We had a teacher. I actually have videos of her at her one year birthday party, which was about a month afterwards, and we're clapping and rejoicing because she's learning how to walk again. 00:17:55:27 - 00:18:19:28 Speaker 2 She literally stopped walking. So it was it was a big, big deal that when I seen her take a couple of steps up the stairs, I knew that it was working. It was helping her because we weren't doing anything else besides teaching her sign language and using Neural balance for probably the first six months. 00:18:20:00 - 00:18:25:06 Speaker 1 And so that's how you open the lines of communication with her. Again, that's our. 00:18:25:09 - 00:18:26:16 Speaker 2 Language as a family. 00:18:26:24 - 00:18:51:04 Speaker 1 That's outstanding. I read that often parents who have a deaf child don't even learn sign language. So that's I mean, that's awesome that that you guys did that. The lines of communication are important and they the kids need to Yeah that's it's it's a shame so that's neat that you all did that so the whole family learned. 00:18:51:06 - 00:19:28:18 Speaker 2 Pretty much my mom I mean there really isn't very many of us at that time when we found out about Krissie. Well, I already knew, but my husband was still in the picture, and then once we definitely knew what was going on, he decided that that life was not for him and took off, which I know a lot of people are going to be like, what a but I would rather now, looking back on it, being the bigger person in the situation, I'm glad that he had that in him to let me know that he couldn't do it. 00:19:28:20 - 00:19:33:08 Speaker 2 Then it wasn't for him. Instead of sticking around and making life miserable for. Right. 00:19:33:10 - 00:19:34:08 Speaker 1 Right, right. 00:19:34:10 - 00:19:48:11 Speaker 2 So, I mean, I'm okay. I'm happy. Krissie's is happy. We're doing great. You know, it's it's just what happens. There's some people that can't deal with it. And I completely understand. It's hard. 00:19:48:13 - 00:20:13:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. I hear that a lot. I have a lot of respect for autism parents. And when single moms, especially because it's I was a single parent for a while and I my child, you know, my children didn't have autism. And being a single parent as tough as it is, but then all of the additional support that they need is definitely wears on you. 00:20:13:08 - 00:20:26:12 Speaker 1 So what? Okay, so you you saw that she was making progress. She was starting to walk upstairs. How was she? What other ways that you kind of see Krissie coming back? 00:20:26:15 - 00:20:52:08 Speaker 2 She would I think she started saying mom, which was not a new word. I mean, she was saying mom before it all happened, but she was saying mom again. She was calling everybody mom instead of just me. But I was still happy that the word was coming out. We started noticing that it was almost impossible for her mouth to form the words that she needed to form. 00:20:52:10 - 00:21:17:24 Speaker 2 And you could tell that she wanted to talk and she was trying to talk and she was making more noise, but it wasn't coming out and she'd get really, really frustrated. So that's when we started with the sign language and I think the sign language took away a lot of her insecurities and her frustration, and I think it opened the door for a lot more things to come through. 00:21:17:24 - 00:21:40:16 Speaker 2 And I think it helped the neural balance in a way because there wasn't so much held in frustration in this child's body that she was trying to fight with every single day. And we didn't go with a pick system or anything like that because at the time, with her being as young as she was, she just she didn't get a lot. 00:21:40:18 - 00:21:43:06 Speaker 2 This is being recorded, right? 00:21:43:09 - 00:21:44:08 Speaker 1 Yes. 00:21:44:10 - 00:21:46:12 Speaker 2 Can we pause this? She's screaming for me. 00:21:46:14 - 00:21:48:26 Speaker 1 yeah, sure. Go for. 00:21:48:29 - 00:22:16:14 Speaker 2 All right. We made a lot of things easier. The next thing after her walking upstairs, I remember this like it was yesterday. And I just I couldn't even believe it because at that time, she couldn't take off clothes, put on clothes like she stopped everything. And I had walked into the living room after making her her lunch and she was sitting on the floor trying to put her socks on. 00:22:16:14 - 00:22:38:08 Speaker 2 And she had had one on halfway on her foot. And I just like started jumping up and down and screaming and telling her, yeah, that she was a big girl because it was like her hands. She lost everything, all form of it was it was weird. She couldn't even she didn't even nod or shake her head anymore. Two questions. 00:22:38:10 - 00:23:04:09 Speaker 2 So when I see her putting her socks on, I knew that, you know, we just we had to continue with the Neural balance, obviously, because I absolutely refused to put my child on any form of medication. We haven't had her on any medicine at all for anything besides Neural balance. And at this time, still, doctors weren't listening to me. 00:23:04:11 - 00:23:34:25 Speaker 2 Nobody was seeing her. And they said, you know, that she was just a slow learner, that things would get easier for her. So I had taken it upon myself and I had contacted our local special education school, if that's what she would like to call it. And that is the and they had sent out an occupational therapist to my house to start working with Kristi. 00:23:34:27 - 00:24:10:11 Speaker 2 And after she had been there for so long, telling me that, you know, well, she's just developing slower than most children and she'll get the hang of it and everything like that. They had brought in a speech therapist and Christie at this point, I don't know. We were like to probably maybe a little bit over two years old and they both of them had told me that I needed to stop teaching my child sign language. 00:24:10:13 - 00:24:23:28 Speaker 2 And that sign language wasn't going to get her anywhere in life. And their exact words to me were, How is she ever going to order anything at McDonald's if she doesn't know how to communicate? 00:24:24:01 - 00:24:50:11 Speaker 1 I think that's probably the least of your worries at the time. Right? McDonald's food that is. Yeah, that that doesn't make any sense to me. It seems like the ability to communicate would be one of the first things. Right. Right. And that's going to open the doors to everything. I mean, really, that just doesn't make sense. Well, and, you know, that goes along with you. 00:24:50:11 - 00:24:56:22 Speaker 1 You didn't just settle for this is life now. You're like you're like, how do I push her? How do I teach her? How do I helpers? 00:24:56:22 - 00:25:18:12 Speaker 1 And that's huge because have I mean, we've gotten blowback from people who are like, you shouldn't try to do anything. The people who are autustic are who they are. We need to love and embrace that and not tell them they're they're less than or other than and and I'm like, we're not telling anybody they're less. 00:25:18:15 - 00:25:46:17 Speaker 1 But if you're so crippled with anxiety that you won't leave the house, then how can we come alongside you to help you and support you? I've never run into anything like this in my life except for honestly, the some of the autistic community because you wouldn't tell someone with cancer or with gangrene or, you know, a myriad of other things you wouldn't say, Don't treat that. 00:25:46:17 - 00:26:15:06 Speaker 1 That's just who you are. It is part of who you are. And it's not it's not to be ashamed of, but if if it's keeping you from flourishing and thriving and enjoying life to the fullest, then how can we come alongside support? So I'm, I very much respect that you took the initiative to learn sign language because you realized communication is going to be key as we help her work past all of this. 00:26:15:08 - 00:26:17:13 Speaker 1 How did she take to sign language? 00:26:17:15 - 00:26:40:08 Speaker 2 She learned so fast. It was absolutely amazing. Within one day she was doing the sign for more and eat and drink and using them correctly. That was the big thing. She just wasn't running around. And to tell me that she loved me, she was signing more like she completely understood it and I was blown away. Yep. And you're still doing the sign Right now? 00:26:40:11 - 00:27:08:21 Speaker 2 We don't communicate that much in sign language. Now because Kristi has flourished so much. But at the time, sign language was our main thing. And when they told me that, I kicked them both out of my house that second, like I told them that I didn't need them with Kristi anymore and they could leave my house and I was going to continue to do what I wanted to do and I was going to figure out a way to do it better. 00:27:08:23 - 00:27:25:17 Speaker 2 So I got my degree in special education and I went to college and I started learning. And I have been Krissie's teacher for five years now because I refused to take no for an answer. 00:27:25:20 - 00:27:28:01 Speaker 1 That's great. And she's doing great. 00:27:28:04 - 00:27:30:22 Speaker 2 She's doing a lot better now. 00:27:30:25 - 00:27:39:07 Speaker 1 Yeah, so are you. So then you're homeschooling, plus you're doing like an ABA. Is it ABA type therapy? 00:27:39:07 - 00:27:42:11 Speaker 2 I actually got my ABA license. Okay. 00:27:42:14 - 00:28:08:26 Speaker 1 And that's another thing too. I had no idea that that was such a controversial thing. And then, of course, I hear I hear some what I find often happens is it's a good system is only as good as the worst people that use it. Right. So I've heard some of the things that have occurred in the name of ABA, and I thought, well, that's garbage, but that's not really ABA either. 00:28:08:26 - 00:28:39:00 Speaker 1 So I mean, you just you take any kid and you teach them so that they can function in the world and be happy and get along with people. And it's not. And for me, I just don't understand all the pushback. No, I do understand if someone's being oppressed or abused or it's going too far. Sure. But if you know that that you can expect more from this person, then you're going to try to push them in that direction if you want them to succeed. 00:28:39:00 - 00:28:49:07 Speaker 1 So I really respect that you took such initiative. I mean, you became an ABA specialist so that you can help your daughter. That's awesome. 00:28:49:10 - 00:29:24:04 Speaker 2 A lot of people have the issue because they feel that your teeth are you're treating the child like a dog. I mean, ABA, you are rewarding them with a snack, a treat, a reward for doing that to trick you, ask them to do, right. I mean, I'm not not treating my kid like a dog, but I do tell her and you heard me in the beginning of this before we started recording, If you're good and we can get through this and Mommy can finish, I'll give you a cookie when we're done. 00:29:24:07 - 00:29:50:19 Speaker 1 Which doesn't sound that different from many parents. Right. But I mean. Right. That's where I guess some people are looking to be offended or some people only have that view that they've heard where it was taken too far. I don't know. But it seems to me that you want your kid to be more resilient. You want them to learn as much as they can and be able to function and even be around people and be a joy to be around. 00:29:50:19 - 00:30:12:23 Speaker 1 So people want to be around them. It just makes sense that that's what you would want for your for your child. So I do commend you for all the work that you've put in and the love and the support that you've given her. And I'm happy to hear that we were a positive part of that. I'm I didn't realize what a need there was for a product like neural balance until I started working with this company. 00:30:12:25 - 00:30:15:29 Speaker 1 And it's getting it's more and more prevalent too 00:30:15:29 - 00:30:36:01 Speaker 1 there was an incident that happened this was last year, right? Was it as far back as September? Okay. And I was very surprised by it. And it was what the parade was kicking off the fair. Yeah. So this was a pretty big deal. And it was something that just totally blindsided. 00:30:36:07 - 00:30:37:02 Speaker 2 Huge thing. 00:30:37:08 - 00:30:42:16 Speaker 1 Yeah. Explain to us what happened to you and Krissie that day. 00:30:42:18 - 00:31:16:25 Speaker 2 Okay. So the day before was Krissie's birthday, and it was while her birthday party. And it was the first time that Krissie had ever, ever had a birthday party. And there were children there. And I had invited all of my friends that had autistic children to come to the party and play with Krissie. And I bought this huge bounce house and we had water beads in a pool and the kids just had a sensory filled day that was a lot of fun and there were no meltdowns at the time. 00:31:16:25 - 00:31:51:10 Speaker 2 Everything was great. Now that I think back on it, I mean, I might have made a wrong decision in filling two days in a row full of sensory and too much for her, maybe. But the following day the fair in the county that we live in was having their parade to start the fair off. And Christie had been to a parade and I think only one other time. 00:31:51:10 - 00:32:14:13 Speaker 2 And she was little. She was in a stroller. And we made sure when we went to that one that we were far out enough that it wasn't right downtown where all the noise and the fun stuff was happening. This time we had taken headphones because she has just gotten over putting headphones on her ears because ears are her big thing. 00:32:14:13 - 00:32:49:12 Speaker 2 You can't touch them. It's hard for the doctors to look in them like her ears are huge issue. And we finally got some headphones and she had agreed to put them on and things were going good and I had heard and so had everybody that the county that we are in had agreed from now on at parades and things that they were doing that sirens and horns and all of that stuff, it wasn't going to be a thing anymore. 00:32:49:15 - 00:33:18:09 Speaker 2 They were going to do sensory free with that kind of stuff because of children like Krissie. And I was like, Well, we can take her. She can see the horses, she can see people walking and the floats and the band, and we'll have her put her headphones on. And we were there and Krissie was loving it and a huge one of the big fire trucks. 00:33:18:09 - 00:33:43:18 Speaker 2 Not not just like the ladder truck. The huge, huge fire truck came around the corner where we were. We were on literally we were downtown on the round part of the curb where the two roads came together, sitting on the curb with our feet on the road. And this fire truck, the only there was a ton of fire trucks and didn't have one issue with any of them. 00:33:43:18 - 00:34:21:14 Speaker 2 And he come around this corner to turn I this man was so close in the fire truck to us, somebody probably could have spit on the fire truck. And he didn't do the honking fire truck horn. He did the shrill loud whistle that like I thought I'd gone deaf for a minute. And as soon as it happened, I looked at my kid and her eyes were rolling back in her head and she started having a seizure. 00:34:21:17 - 00:35:00:03 Speaker 2 And I just I froze. And he kept this noise up. And everybody that was around us, babies were crying. Little kids were running adults. Like I thought my ears were bleeding and Krissie couldn't come back. So I grabbed her and my mom and I started walking away from everything. And Christie was walking at this point, but she was twitching and making like these really weird Tourette's noises with, like, vocal stims. 00:35:00:03 - 00:35:21:00 Speaker 2 She has never done anything like this entire life. And we get back to the vehicle, which was because so many people were parked. The vehicle was, I would say, at least a half a mile away from where we were at. So I had to get my kid back to the vehicle and she's still twitching, still making vocal stims. 00:35:21:00 - 00:35:48:05 Speaker 2 I'm like, This is completely messed up, my child. And I thought it was just a sensory overload, like people say. And I was like, I'm going to give her some time. We took my mom back home. We went back home and she kept it up. And I have videos upon videos of this child making vocal stims and like she was repeating like Tourette's. 00:35:48:05 - 00:36:09:21 Speaker 2 People do things that I was saying and noises that were happening outside. And this was just that day. So I put her in the bathtub. This was an hour after we got home from it, and I put her in the bathtub and I used, you know, lavender Epsom salt and tried to calm her down and use some essential oils on her. 00:36:09:21 - 00:36:32:04 Speaker 2 Like I was trying everything I possibly could and nothing was working. And she just she went she didn't have an epileptic where she was thrashing around. She ended up having an absent seizure and I was watching her and she just was completely zoned out and I couldn't get her attention. I was right in front of her face trying to talk to her. 00:36:32:06 - 00:37:04:11 Speaker 2 When she finally came to, she acted like absolutely nothing had happened and started playing again. And I took her to our emergency walk in clinic and I get her in there and I'm telling them what happened and she's in there doing the vocal tics. And I am a complete mess because I know that some autistic children, they do do vocal stims and they do, you know, Twitch and Krissie handclaps. 00:37:04:11 - 00:37:34:00 Speaker 2 That's the only thing she's ever done in her entire life is slapping her hands and like, humming. She'll hum when she does it. But what my child was doing, I think, was Tourette's, 100%. It was crazy. So finally, the doctor that was in there, thank God for this woman, Doctor Nye. She looked at me and she said, Do you know what a noise induced seizure is? 00:37:34:02 - 00:38:14:24 Speaker 2 And I was like, I have never. And she says, You know, a lot of children with autism have seizure tendencies. And it's very, very well known that children with autism can have seizures at any given time, and especially ones that are brought on by lights and loud noises. And what now has has been diagnosed. And she has noise induced seizures and the noise induced seizures and the noise from the firetruck has also now brought on Tourette's. 00:38:14:26 - 00:38:43:10 Speaker 2 So we deal with her autism absent seizures and Tourette's at times. And I still don't have all the answers. We still haven't got into a pediatric neurologist. I just there's not enough I feel there's not enough care for children like my child. And we're taking this one day at a time. I'm trying to take this one day at a time. 00:38:43:10 - 00:39:07:05 Speaker 2 As you can tell, I'm still very emotional about the whole thing and I guess as soon as I can get in to a pediatric neurologist that wants to take me seriously instead of thinking like most of them have, since I have talking to them that my child is just doing what autistic children do, then I'll find somebody that cares and we'll get to the bottom of it. 00:39:07:07 - 00:39:35:07 Speaker 2 But until then, we mostly sit at home because I'm very afraid that when or if I take my child out to do something, that there's going to be an ambulance or a cop car or anything at all. And I don't have answers and I don't know how to prevent things. And, you know, when gets really stressed now or, you know, something loud happens under something that she doesn't like. 00:39:35:10 - 00:40:12:09 Speaker 2 The Tourette's amps up like crazy. And she since September, I have noticed. I mean, obviously she's not in my sight. 24, seven. But I have noticed since September she's probably had, I would say, 6 to 8 of the absence seizures. And after she has one of those, the tics and the vocal stims are really, really bad. They're facial tics and like her eyes will blink a whole bunch and her mouth all kind of twitch around and her head will jerk side with It's it's crazy. 00:40:12:11 - 00:40:13:08 Speaker 2 It's absolutely. 00:40:13:08 - 00:40:47:01 Speaker 1 Crazy. And this is all new that new behaviors that began that day. Yeah. Yeah. So it's hard I guess, then to determine did she have this before and the fire truck triggered it or the fire truck triggered it and that's when it began. The whole sound induced because it sounds now like she's more prone to seizure based on certain external stimuli than she would have been before. 00:40:47:03 - 00:40:49:01 Speaker 1 So, yeah, you know what I mean? 00:40:49:05 - 00:41:12:25 Speaker 2 Like the doctor told me, you know, that autistic children are more prone to seizures than other people. I get that because I know that a lot of autistic children do have seizures, but I had no clue that this was even a thing like you don't hear. I have never in my life heard. 00:41:12:25 - 00:41:48:28 Speaker 1 This is the first I've heard of it. And I've talked to hundreds, if not thousands of parents and heard their stories of, you know, how the how they've adapted to help support their children and things like that. And I've never heard of it either. That's why I thought, you know, I'd like to get you on to raise some awareness about it, because if you know what's going, the thing that's heartbreaking hearing this story is you're so excited about being to do this thing right, this thing that you have not been able to do. 00:41:49:00 - 00:42:14:25 Speaker 1 Now you're able to do it. Go to a parade. You're thinking all the precautions have been taken care of, Right. The city has said we're going to make things a little more sensory friendly. But, you know, and so it sounds like you had someone who probably was well-intentioned and want to just give everybody a party but something that loud can affect kids that aren't autistic. 00:42:14:25 - 00:42:15:26 Speaker 1 I would assume. 00:42:16:00 - 00:42:16:11 Speaker 2 All the. 00:42:16:11 - 00:42:29:11 Speaker 1 Kids around us. Right. Well, are hearing issues. I mean, I would assume that a sounded do seizure would not be exclusive to a person with autism. 00:42:29:13 - 00:42:30:16 Speaker 2 For other people, too. 00:42:30:18 - 00:43:01:19 Speaker 1 Right. So you have you people, someone in the audience with epilepsy or whatever. I mean, so so for parents, that's one thing they have to think about is the environment that they're going into. You can never be too safe because when it comes to certain triggers, potential triggers. So you may have somebody worried that this is going to be more sensory friendly, but you also have to come into it with a plan or. 00:43:01:19 - 00:43:19:20 Speaker 2 Right. So I had actually called the fire chief when I found out what was going on, and I explained it to him and I was crying, bawling on the trying to get this out. And his words were, Well, I'm sorry this happened. I don't know what to tell you. What are you going to do about it? 00:43:19:23 - 00:43:20:29 Speaker 1 Both? 00:43:21:01 - 00:43:25:00 Speaker 2 And I was like, I'm doing this so that I can educate you on where. 00:43:25:00 - 00:43:28:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, be aware of it. Tell your people that. 00:43:28:06 - 00:43:31:17 Speaker 2 I'm sorry that it happened. 00:43:31:19 - 00:43:55:05 Speaker 1 See? Well, and that's the that's the. That's the spot that also people are at in today's litigious society. If you say I goofed, then you're potentially opening yourself up for liability. So if he were to even say to you, Thanks for making me aware, I'm going to make my guys aware so we don't do that again, potentially. You know, he's assuming liability because he admitted that they did something wrong. 00:43:55:05 - 00:44:15:13 Speaker 1 Right. So I can in a way understand, but not so much. He should have then more kind with you and certainly more willing to ask, you know, how can I communicate to my guys so that we can avoid this in the future? Because that's really I'm assuming the only reason you were calling anyway was to make them aware of it. 00:44:15:13 - 00:44:18:24 Speaker 2 Hey, this is a possibility. I didn't know it was. 00:44:18:27 - 00:44:39:12 Speaker 1 So a day at the fair and that was the kick off of it, Right? So you guys probably had a whole day planned and that really threw her for a loop. So now it's, gosh, it's five months later and you're still experiencing some of the additional symptoms that it. 00:44:39:15 - 00:45:00:01 Speaker 2 So pretty much diagnosed with Tourette's now. Okay. So officially seen the pediatric neurologist because nobody's seen me yet, but the behavior actor has said that they that her diagnosis would be noise induced seizures with an onset of Tourette’s. 00:45:00:03 - 00:45:10:02 Speaker 1 So has the behavior escalated or plateaued or decreased or where do you think you are in this? Is it do you think it's something? Well. 00:45:10:05 - 00:45:30:08 Speaker 2 It depends on our day, Right. Like, I know if I was to take her to a fair today, we would probably have huge problems with it. So we try to sit home, stay calm, do because I don't know what to do. Nobody. Nobody has told me what to do. No neurologist has agreed to see me because of this. 00:45:30:10 - 00:45:39:00 Speaker 2 No. And because of this and me being a single parent, I am on state insurance. So it's even harder. 00:45:39:02 - 00:46:00:13 Speaker 1 Right. And now you have to also be conscious of the it could if if she's this much more prone to seizures now, then you also have to think about the lights and flashing lights and things like that could potentially be a problem. So this is just adding a whole other layer to things for you. 00:46:00:17 - 00:46:19:12 Speaker 2 Yeah, I, I was joking, you know, with my mom, but deep inside of me, I wonder if I'm joking because I'm like, what am I going to have to get licensed in now so that I know what I'm doing? Right? I kept bettering myself for her and I thought that I had gotten to the point where, I can I can do this with ease. 00:46:19:12 - 00:46:37:14 Speaker 2 Now I know what I'm doing. And now that this is added, I'm like, What other classes do I have to take and what else can I do to make my child's life even a little bit better? And I just we just stay home pretty much now after this. 00:46:37:16 - 00:46:44:28 Speaker 1 Does she are you able to like does she like to play outside, get out and get in the sun, or is that too much stimulation service dog? 00:46:44:28 - 00:47:07:29 Speaker 2 So we take the dog places we went we had a park day the other day and it was during school, so I knew a bunch of kids wouldn’t be out, people went in and everything and we went to five different parks and she ran around and then, you know, once all the kids started coming out, we had home because, you know, they bring on a lot of anxious feelings for her. 00:47:07:29 - 00:47:14:00 Speaker 2 And I don't need her having a seizure in the middle of a park playground. So. 00:47:14:03 - 00:47:20:23 Speaker 1 So would you say she's fairly up to speed verbally now for her age? No. 00:47:20:25 - 00:47:45:19 Speaker 2 But but if she sat here with me right now and tried to carry on a conversation with her, you probably wouldn't understand anything. But. Well, some things you might, but I understand it because I know her words. But she doesn't just carry on a conversation like you have to initiate stuff and then like, you have to almost tell her what to say. 00:47:45:20 - 00:48:09:16 Speaker 2 Like yesterday she turned around to me and she was just like she said, change it. And she kind of stopped there for a little bit. So I had to walk over to her and I was like, How do you say this better? You know? And you have to walk her through it and there's sounds. She can't bs these PS K's C's like she can't pronounce them at all. 00:48:09:18 - 00:48:33:29 Speaker 2 We're getting better because I didn't even think that it was this fast. And I actually seen a memory on my Facebook of a year ago and we were just like starting to say ABCs And she whizzes through ABCs now and she counts and she can, which she wrote her name for the first time like three weeks ago. 00:48:33:29 - 00:48:40:14 Speaker 2 And I cried. And so we're we're getting there a little bit at a time. 00:48:40:16 - 00:49:04:00 Speaker 1 Well, you are like I said, I can't say enough. You're doing a great job. I it's very impressive what you've gone through yourself and everything that you've put to learn more so that you could be more effective for her. The love and the patience autism. Moms are a whole different breed now, so that that kind of makes me wonder. 00:49:04:03 - 00:49:11:14 Speaker 1 So like, I mean, what do you it sounds like you don't have any time for yourself or to recharge for yourself or like, how 00:49:11:14 - 00:49:43:25 Speaker 2 Well, the whole thing is, is that on top of her and her autism and her issues, I have fibromyalgia and lupus and shorten syndrome and Hashimoto's these. So we're both just struggling all the time. Right. And I just have to step it up and ignore how I feel and get the job done for her. And then even though I'm tired when she goes to bed at night, Mama stays up till 4:00 in the morning because I don't ever get time for myself. 00:49:43:28 - 00:49:56:10 Speaker 2 So, you know, I'm up until 4:00 in the morning scrolling Facebook or reading or, you know, getting in the bathtub. That's like the dream of all dreams, if I can actually get a bath in that. 00:49:56:12 - 00:49:56:17 Speaker 1 Right. 00:49:56:19 - 00:50:10:06 Speaker 2 So that's what we do. I mean, she has it right now. At this point. Her and I haven't been apart for probably a month. 00:50:10:08 - 00:50:15:18 Speaker 1 So is she. But she sleeps through the night now. Okay. And all of that. 00:50:15:21 - 00:50:33:22 Speaker 2 Most of the time I mean, there's times that she'll wake up four or 5:00 in the morning and she'll holler for me because she she's scared so she doesn't get out of bed, which is a wonderful thing. And she'll holler for me and I'll go get her and she'll come into my bed with me and we'll fall back asleep. 00:50:33:22 - 00:50:40:01 Speaker 2 And but for the most part, yeah. You'll come into my room, But for the most part. yeah. 00:50:40:10 - 00:50:46:16 Speaker 2 That's good for her farm animals and mama. Yeah, she does. 00:50:46:17 - 00:50:48:20 Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah. 00:50:49:13 - 00:51:12:09 Speaker 1 So cute. It's so you're one of the other autism moms that I’m friends with. I asked her the same question. What do you do for self-care? And she said, Suck it up, buttercup. Yeah, that was that. And so I and I kind of hear that a lot. And I know to laugh about it more impressed by it than anything. 00:51:12:09 - 00:51:25:04 Speaker 1 There's just this resilience and and like, you don't have a choice. What you know, what do you, what are you going to do? You got to do it for your kids. So you do. And I'm impressed by that. 00:51:25:06 - 00:51:51:22 Speaker 2 Well, now, I had found out also from teaching her sign language and everything. One of the main reasons, I mean, well, one of or two of the main reasons she doesn't have all of her jabs. So obviously, you know, they're going to turn us away. But another reason why she's not in any kind of schooling is because I have not found even special education, schools, autism schools, anything where anybody can communicate through sign. 00:51:51:25 - 00:51:58:17 Speaker 1 Really. I mean, sign language is pretty prevalent in the autism community. From what I understand. 00:51:58:20 - 00:52:02:07 Speaker 2 There's none they want to do. The system always now. 00:52:02:10 - 00:52:04:02 Speaker 1 So what is that? 00:52:04:04 - 00:52:11:05 Speaker 2 That's what the picture. Krissie Hey, go get your go get your schedule with arts and crafts on it. Go get it. 00:52:11:05 - 00:52:29:05 Speaker 2 Yeah, get it and bring it here. It's a system that uses little pictures and when they want something, they just pull the tag off. somebody would say to me, You're not even trying to teach my kid to talk, right? 00:52:29:05 - 00:52:36:08 Speaker 1 That's not really. I mean, it is a form of communication. But it's very simple. I mean. Yes, useful. Yeah. 00:52:36:10 - 00:52:51:21 Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, we have one because obviously there's words that sometimes she'll get so frustrated with me and I'll look at her and I'll be like, I do not know what you're saying. Is there something in the house that you can show me that's like this? Do we have something? Is there a book that has this in it? 00:52:51:21 - 00:53:17:22 Speaker 2 Because I try to go over everything. She gets so frustrated with me. Can you go put it back, please? Thank you. And I get it for some things. But now they even have pick systems and playgrounds around here so that they can just pull an adult over to the board and point at something. And then their communication is that. 00:53:17:22 - 00:53:42:26 Speaker 1 It can't be the end all, be all. That's the thing. I mean, I'm okay with, I guess that in some limited rapacity you can use it alongside, but the more advanced kids that can handle it, they should that you should teach them sign language because right. It's just I mean, you're not relying on having the right table or whatever, you know, to communicate. 00:53:42:26 - 00:54:10:21 Speaker 1 So I yeah, I think more people should learn sign language. And my my son and I my youngest is 19 and he's talking about one when they're when he has kids, one day he's going to teach them sign language. He's not hearing impaired. But he just said, I think it's such a valuable thing to be able to to use sign language and communicate with people who aren't used to just meeting someone randomly. 00:54:10:21 - 00:54:42:10 Speaker 1 They can communicate with them and that he thinks that more for. And, you know, he had a good idea, too. It would be neat if there was just a universal sign language rather than like American Sign Language or this or whatever. Because if you're learning sign language, you're you're learning a new language, right? So whether you're French or German or American or whatever, if you all learn the same sign language, then everybody that knows sign language can speak to anybody else in the world who also speaks sign language. 00:54:42:13 - 00:54:48:10 Speaker 1 And I just think that that would be a very helpful tool for a lot of reasons. 00:54:48:10 - 00:54:52:15 Speaker 2 But the ABCs are the best to learn because everybody uses the same. 00:54:52:18 - 00:54:53:17 Speaker 1 Right? Okay. 00:54:53:21 - 00:54:54:24 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:54:54:26 - 00:55:20:08 Speaker 1 Yeah, it doesn't. And like we talked about earlier, it doesn't make sense to me parents that have hearing impaired kids that don't. So why your doctors would be, especially when you're teaching or that you're using your brain, you're exercising it. We're always told, you know, it's like a muscle. You got to use it right? So now they're dissuading you from teaching her something that would help her communicate more effectively. 00:55:20:08 - 00:55:21:18 Speaker 1 It makes no sense. 00:55:21:20 - 00:55:37:26 Speaker 2 Yeah, I would have her when she was younger, when she was learning the signs, I would do the signs, say the word and then do the sign in the word together. And then when she would sign it, I would at least make her make a noise so that she could attempt to say it at the same time, right? 00:55:37:29 - 00:55:39:04 Speaker 2 Yeah. 00:55:39:06 - 00:56:10:27 Speaker 1 That makes sense. So I to ask you too, about this here. We're recording this on the last day of February 29th, leap year. And so this is still about a month away, April Autism Awareness Month. But I've also learned that people have strong opinions about that. Some people do. Some people are pretty indifferent. But I always thought it was a great idea because during that month, many companies are focusing on autism awareness. 00:56:10:27 - 00:56:31:01 Speaker 1 So people that normally wouldn't give it a thought now are exposed to some of the ideas and hopefully given some more understanding. But then other people just hate it altogether. So Autism Awareness Month for April Do you love it or do you hate it or do you care? And if so, why? 00:56:31:03 - 00:57:06:06 Speaker 2 I mean, I have to care because it's my life. But I don't feel that even though is autism awareness Month, that there's really any awareness to people that are not affected with it every day. If everybody and I don't want anybody to take this wrong because my brother had cancer and I, I get it. But everybody knows the cancer ribbon knows, you know, cancer awareness, knows everything. 00:57:06:08 - 00:57:42:04 Speaker 2 And then you get people that don't even have a clue about autism. And even though there's an Autism Awareness Month and a Down's Syndrome Awareness Month and Muscular Dystrophy Awareness Month only, I think it's only mostly important to those that deal with it. And even though some companies try to push it and you see your friend post something on Facebook about wearing blue that day or so, it's not it's not thought of. 00:57:42:06 - 00:58:08:20 Speaker 2 It's not after after the month's over with. And everybody's tired of seeing the blue little puzzle pieces all over the place. Nobody bats an eye at it again. And the education for for autism I think is almost nonexistent, especially to people that have no clue. I mean, I've had people in the store say hi to my child and I have to look at them and tell them that she's nonverbal. 00:58:08:27 - 00:58:35:21 Speaker 2 And then adults look at me and they're like, she's a mute or the like. I've had a man. After I told him that she was nonverbal, get down in her face and clap his hands in her face. So I know I can't get mad because they don't know anything. You know, you don't see people that have cancer saying, I have cancer. 00:58:35:21 - 00:59:02:09 Speaker 2 And then somebody, you know, clapping their hands in their face like people get it and they know what that person's going through. But I don't think very many people understand and I don't think very many people most of the time now want to even understand, because it inconveniences them or their lives. And they just they just don't want to hear them make noise or have a meltdown in public. 00:59:02:09 - 00:59:25:25 Speaker 2 And they don't want to acknowledge that, you know, it's it's part of them. Instead, they want to look at the parent and be like, well, can't you just tell them now? Can't you, you know, disciplining your child can't? You and I, I don't think autism awareness helps them very much except throwing the blue puzzle piece out there. I hate to say that because I really wish it did. 00:59:25:28 - 00:59:53:23 Speaker 2 And I wish that it did more than what it does right now. But if I didn't have a child with autism and just like you said, you only knew of like Rainman at the time, that's probably what most people don't have to deal with autism in their daily lives, even think of now is Rainman and, you know, Temple and like that, because it's not in their face, it's not in their lives, it's not in their family, it's not anywhere. 00:59:53:23 - 01:00:19:00 Speaker 2 So they don't have to be aware of it until they need it face to face in the store and then they make the wrong decision. I think that maybe even us that have loved ones with autism need to probably strive a little bit harder to spread awareness and education about it. I try to all the time and sometimes most of the time falls on deaf ears. 01:00:19:03 - 01:00:39:25 Speaker 2 But I don't shut up and I don't care how controversial it is. And I most of the time don't care if somebody else has a different opinion than me because I'm the one that's going through it. And I will I will answer any and all questions. You know, if I tell somebody that Christie has autism in the store and they're like, can she talk? 01:00:39:27 - 01:00:58:00 Speaker 2 does she have a learning disability? I will be more than happy to answer any question that anybody has about it anytime in my entire life. But when a man gets down in my child's face and claps his hands, I just got to grab my kid and walk away. And I don't think that's fair I don't think it's fair to me or Christie. 01:00:58:03 - 01:01:08:14 Speaker 2 And I think that maybe a lot of autism awareness companies and places could maybe do a little better. 01:01:08:17 - 01:01:43:08 Speaker 1 Well, there you go. I and that's one of the complaints that I hear about it, is that I it's not it's not enough. One month is not enough, really, to truly raise awareness. And, you know, that was one of the things at our church. I it just kind of occurred to me, you know, there's probably a lot of families that would like to go to a worship service and they feel like they can't because either they're embarrassed or they're afraid they'll bother someone or somebody will be mean or the reasons are so many, right? 01:01:43:11 - 01:01:51:26 Speaker 1 Yes, the self doubt. So I started asking and I found that there were a lot of folks who wanted to 01:01:51:26 - 01:01:58:09 Speaker 1 wanted to start going back to church again, and they felt like they weren't able. So we started. 01:01:58:12 - 01:02:16:05 Speaker 2 We have a church actually right down the road. There was a man down there one time in a car and Chrissie has wanted to see we've never been to a church and she wanted to see the inside and we walk inside and she was just in awe. But I was telling the guy, you know, because he was like, you can come to church. 01:02:16:12 - 01:02:35:18 Speaker 2 And I'm like, Yes, but you guys sing, You're loud. The bell rings, the, you know, there's babies crying. I can't have a baby crying around my kid ever. Like 0% chance of christening me with this. And I was like, I know that this is part of your life, but I can't have it be part of mine. And it sucks. 01:02:35:20 - 01:02:54:28 Speaker 2 But we walked up those stairs and everything and she seen the cross and she seen him hanging out and she knew who he was. And she pointed it out and she said the word. She prays every single night with my mom over the phone. They say their nightly prayers and she always wants to go to church. And I know she can't. 01:02:55:00 - 01:03:19:18 Speaker 1 Right. I'll have to send you a link. She can watch ours on livestream, maybe, but yeah, and what we ended up doing. So my question was, how can we make this more friendly? And one of the first things I thought was setting up a separate place that's a little quieter. We can live stream into that room and the lights can be down and it wouldn't be as loud. 01:03:19:20 - 01:03:53:01 Speaker 1 But then I thought, you know, there's more to it than that. That's great for the families who would want to retreat to something like that and still be part of a body. Like after the service is over, you come out and you're around people and everything. If if your kids can handle it. But another piece of that I thought was the ones that don't need to retreat but want to be in the main sanctuary, we need to educate also our congregation to be patient, to be understanding, to be supportive, to be loving. 01:03:53:01 - 01:04:16:29 Speaker 1 And because, you know, this is might be a new thing that we're we're going to go through. And we we did present that we do have a little boy who sometimes gets loud but he sings and he's vocal he stims vocally and things like that. And we just have learned to love it. I mean, we'd rather that he's there than not right? 01:04:17:01 - 01:04:41:20 Speaker 1 He's part of a beautiful family. He's a great little kid. So that's that's why I think that's why I kind of wondered about the autism awareness thing. Like I can see it being good on a certain level, but that's the biggest complaint that I've heard, is it doesn't go far enough. It's kind of lip service. And now, like everything, it's become a marketing thing. 01:04:41:27 - 01:05:01:18 Speaker 1 So companies can throw that up and make a little donation and be seem like they're part of the community. But the month is over and they're done and they're not talking to anybody with autism or any of that. So I can see where it's also become a ploy. So more needs to be done, I think, every everyday level. 01:05:01:20 - 01:05:15:25 Speaker 1 So I do appreciate you meeting, meeting me, being on the show, telling us your story. You're you're pardon my French badass. Thank you. Appreciate you some of these. 01:05:15:25 - 01:05:17:25 Speaker 2 I don't feel like a bad ass, but. 01:05:17:27 - 01:05:24:12 Speaker 1 You just have to remember that you are, you know, because that's what badasses do. They just get back to it. 01:05:24:12 - 01:05:26:12 Speaker 2 So I don't have a choice. 01:05:26:15 - 01:05:35:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, well, we're glad that neural balance has helped. Did you mention that you've taken it, too? Have you ever tried to just. 01:05:35:14 - 01:05:56:03 Speaker 2 Tried her drink? I wanted to make sure that it didn't taste funny and didn't. Right, Initially. I still try it sometimes if I like switch juice to make sure that it's not. But I also use one of those coffee. Frother the milk Frother. Okay, so like we really, really blend it up because I have noticed that sometimes it's filling little balls. 01:05:56:06 - 01:05:57:12 Speaker 2 Yeah, floating around and. 01:05:57:14 - 01:06:17:25 Speaker 1 There's a little trick to that. Like

Join my guest Jennifer Kozek as we talk about depression in younger kids and teens: How to recognize the warning signs and what to do about it. Masks and mandates and the first installment of Fauci's Follies. Link to our sponsor Neural Balance: www.neuralbalance.com/pages/reviews-calm-focus-sleep For more information about Jennifer Kosek and her award winning books and other resources: https://www.healingwithouthurting.com/ Our Facebook Support Group: www.facebook.com/groups/neuralbalancesupport Our Facebook page: www.facebook.com/neuralbalance Our YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/c/TheSpectrumReportTV Don't forget to subscribe to our uncensored Rumble channel to be alerted when we post new content. https://rumble.com/c/c-1160531 00;00;00;19 - 00;00;16;24 Unknown We have a great show today, we're going to talk about depression in teens and kids and how it's become more prevalent. We're going to talk about how parents can recognize it and what they can do about it. 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So if you are watching us today, make sure you subscribe to our channel so you'll be notified when we're putting out 00;01;30;20 - 00;01;55;12 Unknown new content. OK, so today's guest is Jennifer Kosek. She's a mother, wife, board certified psychotherapist and internationally recognized blogger, advocate and national speaker. Jennifer has seen the anxiety and the autism epidemic unfold in her private practice and has watched the harmful impact of medication on many young clients. 00;01;55;26 - 00;02;23;16 Unknown The ADHD epidemic turned personal when Jennifer's son was diagnosed. She plunged into the world of safe and natural healing modalities outside of the pharmaceutical model. She is the author of a five time award winning book, Healing Without Hurting Treating ADHD, Aproxia and Autism Spectrum Disorders Naturally and effectively without harmful medication, and has also released a children's 00;02;23;16 - 00;02;50;10 Unknown book, A Healthy New Me and ADHD Free. She's also been featured in the Heal documentary, on many podcasts, news stories, and her articles appear in many publications. Jennifer consults and blogs with thousands of moms through social media to teach them about alternative and natural solutions to receive more info on how you and your family can overcome ADHD 00;02;50;10 - 00;03;08;19 Unknown Aproxia, or anxiety and more without medication, you can visit Jennifer's website. There's also a link there to the Heal documentary, and we'll put a link there in the description of the video. So without further ado, I would like to welcome Jennifer to the show. 00;03;09;05 - 00;03;23;03 Unknown Jennifer, thank you for being here. You're welcome. Thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure. I think this is your third time. We had you on before to talk about each of your books. You're always a great guest, great information. 00;03;23;03 - 00;03;38;02 Unknown And today's show is something that has it's been weighing on my heart as I have a teenager, you know, his friends, the talk and things that we see in the news. So we I definitely appreciate you being here. 00;03;38;10 - 00;03;52;23 Unknown Anything new in the works or anything you want to tell us about before we get started? Yeah, not really. I mean, I've been continuing my blogging, my Healing without Hurting Page. I try to write articles, updates, things that are going on, but that's pretty much it. 00;03;52;23 - 00;04;12;28 Unknown I always talk about wanting to do another book, but maybe when things kind of calm down and my therapy practice has been really, really crazy. And I guess that's why you had me on today because of the amount of teenagers, actually, that I'm starting to see in my psychotherapy practice and sadder and sadder cases of kids that 00;04;12;28 - 00;04;34;00 Unknown are literally, you know, very, very depressed and very anxious. And there's it's it's exploding. And actually, yeah, and that's one of the reasons why we want to talk to the last year and a half has been hard on everybody, but we have a tendency to sometimes forget about how this stuff impacts our kids. 00;04;34;00 - 00;04;57;14 Unknown They hear us worried their lockdown, their school disruption changes. one of the things that I've pointed out recently is there are kids that, you know, they went to school in eighth grade. They went on spring break. Now they they didn't come back to school until they're in high school and in many of them started the school year 00;04;57;14 - 00;05;15;27 Unknown , their first year of high school. Virtually, you had seniors who missed out on all the great milestones that we all look forward to, the reason you worked so hard to get that, you know, high school diploma, your senior year prom, homecoming graduation, all that they really missed out on a lot of stuff. 00;05;15;27 - 00;05;37;04 Unknown So it's resulted in greater depression, anxiety, panic, all you know, all kinds of adverse effects have been noted to teens and even small children who typically didn't have to struggle with all of these things before. So there's definitely been an increase in how has that affected? 00;05;37;04 - 00;05;48;21 Unknown What have you seen as a result of this last year and a half? Well, you know, I see it first with my own kids because my kids, 13 and 15, my son just started high school. They lost, they lost. 00;05;48;21 - 00;06;07;26 Unknown He lost the whole year and a half of his junior high middle school experience. He is my son who is on the spectrum, and he had even a harder time because he, you know, basically we had to hire a tutor to help him with academically because he didn't have a paraprofessionals and other support team around him. 00;06;07;26 - 00;06;28;23 Unknown And he also, you know, he just, you know, socially, he's a social kid and for a year and a half. So I was watching this on my own, in my own life. My daughter, you know, is typically very happy go lucky child and about in lots of activities, loves to go to clubs and activities. 00;06;28;23 - 00;06;39;16 Unknown And she couldn't do that for a whole year and a half, so we had to almost artificially create social environments for her. Luckily, I had a couple other families that were sort of in the same boat I was. 00;06;40;08 - 00;06;50;27 Unknown There was so much hybrid going on and kids getting pulled out and pushed in. We just decided to keep our kids home. We didn't want the in masks for the entire time. I heard they were acting like robots in school, basically. 00;06;51;02 - 00;07;02;07 Unknown They weren't even allowed to sit with their friends. They weren't a lot of high five each other in the hallway. I mean, these are the reasons we go to school. So, you know, we started to see, you know, even in my own family, we start to see what was going on. 00;07;02;07 - 00;07;15;17 Unknown And then I started getting more and more children, adolescents and younger kids coming into my practice for the same reasons because even if they were going to school, it was more like jail than it was school for a good year and a half. 00;07;15;17 - 00;07;29;01 Unknown I mean, it's a little better now, but even outdoor sports with masks on in some states, I mean, my state's, you know, completely all about the masks, but yet we can go to a restaurant, we can sit down and with 100 people in the restaurant, that's OK. 00;07;29;15 - 00;07;41;19 Unknown So apparently as soon as we sit down in a restaurant, I think it's the height, right? It's the height. And that's it. You know, you're right. I was not the best student, but I still looked forward to going to school when I was a kid. 00;07;41;19 - 00;07;56;11 Unknown And, you know, after summer vacation or spring break? Well, maybe not so much spring break with summer vacation, I was ready to go back to school when it started back up. There's such a big social aspect of it, and I know a lot of these traditions are American traditions. 00;07;56;11 - 00;08;13;02 Unknown But you know, these kids have grown up looking forward to prom and all all these different things. And I can just imagine the poor seniors that worked for all that time and then weren't able to walk. You know, we did some things here in our community locally. 00;08;13;11 - 00;08;30;02 Unknown We drove around, families with kids that were graduating put out signs and we drove around, honked and waved and all that. But that's hardly the same. How has it, as far as your practice goes, affected kids? I know you can't divulge any any, you know, confidential information or anything like that. 00;08;30;02 - 00;08;45;14 Unknown But what kind of things are you hearing from kids that maybe you, you notice is more prevalent or different than things that you heard prior to COVID, or maybe even in the beginning of COVID before the lockdowns kind of took their toll? 00;08;46;12 - 00;09;03;00 Unknown Well, you know, I know a lot before COVID, you know, a lot of kids were very addicted to video games and their online gaming and everything like that, but that just exploded over COVID. I mean, it really was their only social outlet, and it really created a bunch of, you know, basically addicts when it comes to video 00;09;03;00 - 00;09;18;05 Unknown games and all of these things. And even though we've seen it seems like our kids are connecting with other kids, it's clearly not the same. They're also joining chat rooms, which are very disturbing because some of them, it's almost like wet noodles trying to hold each other up. 00;09;18;18 - 00;09;35;22 Unknown There are a lot of them that are depressed. They're finding other depressed teens, and they're talking about their depression, but in an unsupervised and unproductive way. So they're kind of it's almost like being in a support group, even in a hospital setting where, you know, kids that weren't otherwise getting any type of ideas as far as cutting 00;09;35;22 - 00;09;48;18 Unknown themselves or committing suicide. I mean, some kids are actually talking about how to do it, like how is the best way to kill yourself? I mean, this is what we're dealing with. So, you know, kids are spending way too much time online. 00;09;49;00 - 00;10;03;18 Unknown So that, I think, is a huge, huge, huge, huge uptake. They're also being pulled a lot of like even my daughter, she was dancing for ten years and when COVID happened, she did not. I want to dance with a mask on, and so she quit something that she loved for ten years. 00;10;04;07 - 00;10;18;21 Unknown Luckily for her, she's very well resourced, so she was able to find other things to keep her occupied and other things like playing the piano. She started an Etsy business online. She started taking some courses online. But not all kids are that resourceful, nor are all kids that personality. 00;10;19;17 - 00;10;32;08 Unknown So, you know, we're getting a lot of kids that are just isolating themselves in their bedrooms. You know, as far as like looking for signs of depression and anxiety, you know, just dropping out, you know, dropping out of life, basically. 00;10;32;14 - 00;10;47;09 Unknown And it was almost like an invitation to drop out a life like in the beginning. I think we all welcomed it because part of the problem with the anxieties that were overscheduled right for the first month and a half, it was actually very, very relaxing when they said, you have to go home and you can't go to 00;10;47;09 - 00;11;03;03 Unknown school, and we all stayed home and cook together. And but that got very old, very quick, very fast, right? And then these kids don't want to go back because now they're out of condition. You know, I have some kids that were athletes that were looking, you know, colleges were looking going to be looking at them and now 00;11;03;03 - 00;11;21;01 Unknown they can't even play. Oh, then what happens to those kids that we're supposed to get scholarships? Right? And now they're whole, and now they're not conditioned. And if the parents don't have money to pay for coaches, which luckily a couple of my clients parents did, but most parents can't afford that or people were too scared to do 00;11;21;01 - 00;11;37;20 Unknown coaching with children because of the whole thing. Those kids were not staying conditioned, so they basically were dropping out of sports that they were looking actually at colleges. So this is like totally devastating to a child that's worked their whole entire life, you know, playing basketball or playing some other sport. 00;11;38;18 - 00;11;52;23 Unknown And all of a sudden now they're not doing it. So now they're also not getting the physical exercise and they're dropping out of sporting events and things like that. So that's a huge problem. Kids just don't even know where they belong, the segregation and the discrimination. 00;11;52;23 - 00;12;09;18 Unknown Now that's going on between who's vaccinated, who's not vaccinated, who likes masks, who doesn't like them as well. If you like masks then you must have voted for Biden. Right? Unbelievable. And as adults, we're feeling that and the kids are just they're like little mini adults. 00;12;09;18 - 00;12;25;07 Unknown So they're picking up on whatever the families are doing is basically what they're coming to school with. So that's a problem because kids that we're playing with other kids, all of a sudden their parents are telling them, not that they can't hang out with this kid or that kid because they're this kid's not vaccinated or this kid 00;12;25;07 - 00;12;38;26 Unknown doesn't wear a mask or vice versa. It goes both ways. It's not just one side or the other one. They tell them they're dangerous to each other. So now the people that were their friends are dangerous. They don't care about you is what they're being told. 00;12;39;08 - 00;12;57;06 Unknown Right? I can't see. You can't see a smile. You can't see if someone's looking at, you know, there's no the the developmental disabilities that we're creating and our children, especially the young ones that don't know any better. I mean, the older kids, at least, you know what I find, too at the high school level that you know 00;12;57;06 - 00;13;05;08 Unknown , a lot of it depends on the teacher, but like some of them, like, we'll give them more mask breaks or like, let them take it down if they're, you know, far enough from the kids, if they don't have symptoms. 00;13;06;10 - 00;13;20;27 Unknown So the younger kids, though, are so compliant and they want to listen to the teacher and they want to pay attention to listen to the rules so they keep it on their face. And there is absolutely no socialization, no picking up on social cues. 00;13;20;27 - 00;13;35;18 Unknown I mean, here we have a generation of children... we already had a generation of children that didn't know how to socialize. And now what are we doing? Yeah. The disconnect is even greater. And you mentioned, you know, the kids online interacting with each other. 00;13;35;19 - 00;13;53;00 Unknown So on the one hand, you think, well, at least they have access to one another through video chat and stuff like that. But. I mean, you mentioned the dangers of the weirdos that they could be interacting with, that's one thing, but even interacting with their friends. 00;13;53;08 - 00;14;12;27 Unknown Now they've gone from sometimes being physically present to, you know, almost always doing it via computer video, that type of thing. And a lot is still lost. You walk into their, you know, the average teenager's bedroom now, and it's dark and gloomy in there, and they're huddled over their computer or their phone they have their sweatshirt 00;14;12;27 - 00;14;30;05 Unknown over their heads. Yeah. And it's it's it's they're still isolated and you go, Hey, you know, what are you doing? Oh, I'm talking with my friend. But there's still such a limit to that type of relationship. You're not getting your body needs the presence of another human being. 00;14;30;05 - 00;14;45;28 Unknown It needs some touch. It needs a lot. I mean, we're built as I always joke with my wife. She's a pack animal and I'm a lone Hunter. But I have to admit that even this lone hunter likes to be in the company of the pack more often than not. 00;14;45;28 - 00;15;04;00 Unknown So we're built for that. We're built for community and relationships, and it's the virtual thing is just not doing it. You mentioned when you talked about the chat rooms before you mentioned something that I've really been thinking about too, is the people they run into in chat rooms and videos. 00;15;04;19 - 00;15;32;17 Unknown And I'm wondering, in addition to COVID and all of that the last couple of years, it seems there's been just an explosion of these like pseudoscience and kids and young adults who think that they are psychologists. They give this advice because they personally have anxiety or they have struggles or whatever, and they're gathering little tidbits of truth 00;15;32;17 - 00;15;52;11 Unknown and little tidbits of fiction from all over the internet. They're putting them together. They're making very convincing videos and what's happening is amateurs are almost giving advice like experts. And what are kids going to do? They're going to they're always going to listen other kids before they listen to us. 00;15;52;14 - 00;16;08;13 Unknown Right. So what do you think? How much do you think that pseudoscience and that it's almost like, you know, they always say a doctor, a doctor makes the worst patient or the doctor who treats himself as a fool and that type of thing. 00;16;09;15 - 00;16;27;18 Unknown You know, how much do you think this pseudoscience and this diagnosis of one another in peer to peer treatment? How how much do you think that is contributing to the increase in in like anxiety and depression? Well, I definitely think there's a lot of copycats. 00;16;28;03 - 00;16;44;01 Unknown I think also that people want to belong. They want to be a part of something. And so, you know, I have I have clients and I see all the time the teens that want to hold on to their diagnosis, whatever it is, because they feel like they're part of something, which is a very sad to me because 00;16;44;06 - 00;16;55;03 Unknown of that. Like you said, human nature, we want to belong. We want to believe that we belong to something. But I do think there's a danger in I mean, everyone that interacts with our child is potentially helping to raise them. 00;16;55;17 - 00;17;10;08 Unknown So we have to be very, very careful as far as what they're learning, how they're learning it, who they're learning it from, how qualified the person is. And you know, that's giving them this information. And, you know, I mean, listen, like we were, all kids all right. 00;17;10;11 - 00;17;20;16 Unknown We understand that, you know, we learn about sex for the first time and a lot of times it's with our friends and some of the information they give us is correct. And some of the information is completely incorrect. 00;17;21;11 - 00;17;34;02 Unknown But we so of course, there's always been that. But I think now the kids are seeking out this information and these people, I think there's like a dopamine thing that happens in people like they want to see how many likes they get and they want to see it. 00;17;34;02 - 00;17;52;13 Unknown You know, the social media thing has changed everything because, you know, people just put stuff out there just for effect, and it's not even necessarily the truth. So this is where the parent involvement is so, so important because, you know, we just assume when we send our kids to school that the teachers are doing, you know, their 00;17;52;13 - 00;18;05;26 Unknown best job to keep them safe and tell it, teach them all the right things. And you know, now we're starting to recognize, well know, you know, could there be things that our kids are learning at school that might not be completely true or maybe just very one sided? 00;18;06;07 - 00;18;23;24 Unknown We can just say that right now, well, what? Kids can be online and be learning something from a YouTuber, and maybe some of the information is correct and some of the information is not correct. So we really should be paying closer attention to who our kids are interacting with, even when it's on the, you know, the internet 00;18;24;03 - 00;18;39;26 Unknown And everything's on the internet now and now since school started on the internet because of COVID. The other problem is a lot of these teachers are now teaching remote like basically teaching to a computer. So if a kid has a book that they're reading in class, it used to be that the teacher would send a book 00;18;39;26 - 00;18;53;01 Unknown home and the parents would clean up their backpack with them. Oh, what are you reading? And now parents are very unaware of some of the things that they're learning in school, from their peers, from their teachers. Because everything's now online. 00;18;53;01 - 00;19;09;13 Unknown Everything's a video that they're watching. Everything is a book that's literally virtual and in their Google classroom or whatever we're doing or we're in their chat rooms, we don't know what they're doing or what they're learning, what they're absorbing. 00;19;09;28 - 00;19;26;12 Unknown And they're like tiny sponges. They're going to pick up everything they, you know, they hear everything they learn and they're going to ingest it. So we better be prepared as parents to understand, to sort of un teach in some cases, everything down to a value system. 00;19;26;23 - 00;19;41;26 Unknown I mean, are there, they're learning a value system out there, and some of it might be wonderful, and some of it might not be wonderful. Right? If we want it to be consistent with our values, right? And we need to be aware and we need to be involved for sure, right? 00;19;42;16 - 00;20;01;13 Unknown So what are what are some of the things that a parent? I mean, you know, unfortunately, I think a lot of times depression is mistaken. Our anger or yeah, depression is mistaken for anger. Kids are just angry. And we, you know, it's always kind of a joke. 00;20;01;14 - 00;20;13;12 Unknown Your kid comes home, they're sullen. They're slamming the door. They're pretty. They don't want to talk to you. And somebody'll just dismiss it like, oh, teenagers, right? And there is some truth to that. There's hormones or figuring out who they are. 00;20;13;21 - 00;20;30;19 Unknown They're listening to us, argue about all kinds of stuff. I can just imagine the toll it's taking on them because here we're telling them as they're being raised up and going through school. Think of your future, this is for your future, do this for your future, and now they hear on the news that because of the climate 00;20;30;19 - 00;20;41;19 Unknown change, there's no future and COVID is going to kill us all. And this politician or that politician is going to cause the demise of the country, the world. So kids are starting to think, What are we doing this for? 00;20;41;19 - 00;21;03;08 Unknown There isn't a future, and I can see where that would definitely lead into that hopelessness that would become depression and all of that. So as our kids are going through that, what are some of the things that we should look for that maybe we would say, Hey, that's not just normal, you know, teenage angst or so 00;21;03;08 - 00;21;19;02 Unknown what are some of the ways that we can identify that they might be struggling with anxiety or depression if they're just not willing to talk with us about it right away? I mean, you bring up a good point as far as fear, because I think fear is the driver of hate. 00;21;19;09 - 00;21;37;23 Unknown It's the driver of anxiety. It's the driver of depression. So they're living in it's a PTSD world right now. Everything that we're learning about, everything that we're hearing about is doom and gloom. And so again, talking with our teenagers, and if they don't want to talk to us, you know, to set rules around that like, you can't 00;21;37;23 - 00;21;48;15 Unknown just go to your room and watch TV, like, you know, I always recommend that, you know, TV gets turned off at a certain time. TV is not somebody's room. Computers, you know, are in the main part of the house only. 00;21;48;15 - 00;22;00;29 Unknown So there are things that we really need to do as parents, we really need to set boundaries. But important, though, I mean, so some things to really look out for, obviously, is the amount of time they're spending on social media and or devices, first of all. 00;22;01;28 - 00;22;12;29 Unknown Another thing to really look out for is, you know, are they just not wanting to be a part of family activities anymore? That's a big one. I mean, a lot of kids will say, Well, that's normal teenage stuff like who wants to hang out with the parents? 00;22;12;29 - 00;22;26;19 Unknown But again, and at that point in their parenting as parents, we go, you know, it's probably better if you know, we kind of leave them alone and give them some privacy. And I've seen pretty horrible things happen because parents give the kids privacy, you know? 00;22;26;20 - 00;22;37;22 Unknown Little did they know that the kids are setting up their suicide plan and the parents don't realize it until after the child has passed away. So, I mean, that happens. So we really, really want to be paying attention. 00;22;39;20 - 00;22;58;13 Unknown But, you know, a change in diet, weight gain or weight loss. You know, we want. I mean, again, give them privacy. But you know, if we're suspicious that they're cutting themselves or hurting themselves or burning themselves, I mean, these are things that sometimes parents aren't even noticing or paying attention to. 00;22;58;14 - 00;23;13;11 Unknown So, you know, very, very important that they have activities that they enjoy going to. It's OK if they change activities because kids change their mind. We all do. You know, we've been doing this for these many years, but now we want to try this sport or that club. 00;23;13;24 - 00;23;33;14 Unknown But if kids are just not engaging and I would definitely encourage physical contact with other people, and that's why I think being on a sports team or being in a club after school, because you do need that. I mean, even the little nuances like just telling a joke to each other, right? 00;23;33;20 - 00;23;43;19 Unknown My daughter said the most interesting thing is last year she was in, you know, a virtual for school and now she's in school. So what's the biggest difference? She says, You know, I missed so much when I was virtual. 00;23;44;07 - 00;23;56;09 Unknown I miss the smile. I miss the the joke. I couldn't hear what the person was saying. So you sort of miss half the conversation and that's what makes going to school fun, right? So I kind of need all of it. 00;23;57;05 - 00;24;15;28 Unknown And so definitely to get the kids involved and, you know, don't let them stay in their room, you know, with paper on their windows preventing light from coming in. I mean, they do they or they, you know, kids always have to have the blinds closed, and a lot of kids will say, Well, I have sensory issues, especially 00;24;15;28 - 00;24;32;00 Unknown kids on the spectrum. Like, That's huge, right? Oh, well, they don't like noise, so they have no noise canceling earphones and then they don't like light, so they have the shades pulled. So that's a warning sign that we need to do something even biometrically, you know? 00;24;32;00 - 00;24;47;05 Unknown So I've learned a lot through my journey as far as what sensory processing disorder is, even which is usually mineral deficiency and Lyme disease and other co-infections and things. So don't just chalk it up to genetics, don't just chalk it up to other just teenagers. 00;24;48;27 - 00;25;08;06 Unknown This is the time to really, really be paying attention because kids are under a lot of pressure right now. Right? And you mentioned like touch, right? That's sports in a club. And, you know, I guess I never even really thought about that what you know, you think about in a normal day before COVID. 00;25;08;07 - 00;25;22;16 Unknown Think about how many times you touch or you're touched in a very nonchalant way. It might be a pat on the shoulder, a handshake, a high five boys, you know, teasing each other a little push here. Bump each other. 00;25;22;16 - 00;25;37;12 Unknown Yeah, right. And. And that's, you know, I bet if you counted, I think we'd probably be surprised. Before, you know, pre-COVID, how many times a day you touch other people if you counted it. I bet you would be surprised. 00;25;37;19 - 00;25;49;28 Unknown But we do it. It's part of that pack animal thing. It's part of that camaraderie. And when you miss out on that, it's definitely, definitely a bad thing. So that's something I guess as parents that we can consider, too. Give them hugs. 00;25;50;10 - 00;26;08;01 Unknown If they'll allow it, make them do it. No keys to the car until I get a hug, goodbye or whatever. And you know, a couple of the things that we do as a family is. Whenever possible, which is most days, if you work at it, we eat dinner together at the table. 00;26;08;16 - 00;26;23;22 Unknown There's some days. He, you know, he works, he goes to school, he works. I come home, he's already come home from school and went to work when he gets in. He's eating some leftovers. We go sit with him when he's my youngest still at home. 00;26;24;21 - 00;26;37;07 Unknown And when he's not working, we we eat together and he hates it sometimes, and he'll come with his phone. He's watching an episode of something and we're like, No, that's not. Take the earbuds out. We're turning everything off. 00;26;37;07 - 00;26;50;11 Unknown We don't eat with the TV on. And I'm certainly not being like, I'm better than everybody. But it's one of the ways that I have to carve out that time with him is to eat dinner together, and it's something that he really can't deny. 00;26;50;12 - 00;27;01;25 Unknown You got to eat. So you got here. So. So that is important. I think you make a good point because it's chicken, so some people really do that. What's the best thing to happen in your day? What's the worst thing that happened today? 00;27;02;07 - 00;27;15;28 Unknown Just ask very pointed questions. And mealtime is definitely one of those times to get that done. Another, you know, or right before bed to right, you know, lay on their bed with them. Write about something silly. Ask them about something that you knew. 00;27;15;28 - 00;27;28;03 Unknown You know, they took a test. Like, how was the test? You know, so. And kids will never talk to parents about things that are important unless they can talk to parents about things that aren't important. Hmm. So I like that. 00;27;28;04 - 00;27;44;21 Unknown So listen to remember you don't care about Minecraft, but listen. But listen. Right? Yes, that's that's a real important key that to get to connect with your children because. There they are talking to us, we just don't want to hear. 00;27;46;25 - 00;28;00;13 Unknown You know, I have to admit I've heard more about Kurt Cobain in the last few months than I care to. I like him good music, but I know more than I needed to know. But but my son's integrity is learning to play guitar, so I listen. 00;28;01;11 - 00;28;19;10 Unknown And I I'm thankful that he wants to talk to me. So we want to watch for changes in their habits. We want to watch if they're withdrawing from things. And you mentioned to which I like, don't get too excited if they change activities, if they say, Well, I don't like to dance anymore and maybe I want to 00;28;19;10 - 00;28;30;10 Unknown take martial arts, that's one thing. But if your kid's been dancing for years and they loved it and now they don't want to do it, they're just huddling in their room, then that is a sign that there's something going on. 00;28;30;10 - 00;28;44;20 Unknown So if they're stopping activities, if their diet changes that sudden weight loss or gain and they're just trying to withdrawal from people in general, those are all things that we want to kind of be aware of and start talking to them. 00;28;44;20 - 00;28;55;07 Unknown And then, you know, we've they're very reactive to, you know, there's one thing to be angry and having, you know, sometimes like, Oh, you know, why you know, yelling at, you know, because you ask them to fold their clothes. 00;28;55;27 - 00;29;06;23 Unknown And it's another thing to just be overreacting for every little thing. And that's when we know the kids are really sad, deep down, or they're really angry at itself. So a lot of parents don't pick up on that cue. 00;29;06;24 - 00;29;20;24 Unknown But when kids are angry, 99% of the time, they're angry at themselves. If they get mad at their sister because, you know, because the sister's doing something, it's probably because maybe they don't feel like they can. So that's why they're reacting. 00;29;21;01 - 00;29;33;14 Unknown So we always want to figure out what the triggers are right and understand what the real feeling is. And that's another thing is that we don't really talk to kids about their feelings. We just talk about them what they're thinking about, which is helpful. 00;29;34;03 - 00;29;45;13 Unknown But unless we can really get them to identify feelings, it's a skill they'll have for the rest of their lives and very worthwhile investment as far as trying to, you know, even if you have to all start with the chart, right? 00;29;45;14 - 00;30;02;25 Unknown Anger is only a reaction to a feeling, and so is anxiety. They're not really feeling there are physical body reactions to something that's going on. And and it's important that we have those feelings because all those sensations, because it alerts us that something's going on right? 00;30;03;08 - 00;30;22;04 Unknown So emotional for anxious. Yeah, or very emotional intelligence. Is that is that basically, yeah. Like, why am I feeling this way else? Deeper going on with them? And, you know, usually if you try to approach them at that moment, it's a lost cause, you know, and that's the thing, too. 00;30;22;04 - 00;30;35;22 Unknown We never come back to them. We forget. We get busy instead of saying, Hey, you know, when you know when you couldn't find your shoes this morning, you seem to be really angry. Like, that doesn't really seem to fit, you know? 00;30;36;06 - 00;30;47;04 Unknown And then usually it's like, Oh, we'll have this really bad, you know, this math test? Or I couldn't find my shoes because I can't ever find anything. I'm always losing everything. You know, because again, it's usually about self, right? 00;30;47;17 - 00;31;06;20 Unknown And you know, there's this I was a youth pastor from years ago that I saw him, he mentioned, and I'm sure you've heard this or an equivalent, and he's not the first person to say it. But for every one opportunity, you have to say something negative to somebody, specifically your kids. 00;31;07;04 - 00;31;25;02 Unknown You have about 20 opportunities to say something positive. And we also forget that when they're sullen and they're, you know, in their room and they're crabby with us, it's hard for us to remember to go, Hey, you know, I love you and I really like how you were sensitive to our neighbor or you help the lady across 00;31;25;02 - 00;31;40;09 Unknown us. That was really cool, you know? So that's something I think we have to be more intentional to lift them up, to encourage them, let them know that you see the good and not just the bad light. And then something I kind of thought of. 00;31;40;10 - 00;31;57;06 Unknown I have two boys and two girls, oldest and youngest are boys, and the two in the middle are girls. And I realized I wish I would realized this maybe 25 years ago. But I realized just a couple of years ago that men tend to treat our boys like men before they're men. 00;31;57;06 - 00;32;15;25 Unknown And what I mean by that is, you know, men, we rag on each other a lot. We'll say little things like, Oh, look, I did it. Really? Why didn't you do two or whatever? And for us, it's playful, but until you're sure of who you are and you have a place of trust and you know that this 00;32;15;25 - 00;32;30;25 Unknown person cares about you, it's hard to take that stuff in stride. So I think it's important, too, that we do remember that we want to encourage and lift them up and give them the good news much more often than we give them any, any bad news. 00;32;31;07 - 00;32;44;12 Unknown So, you know, and they affects kids developmentally, they don't get the kidding, the sarcasm in the very literal right. So if you say, hey, you know, you're joking, you know, it's a joke like, hey, you know, you have two left feet, you know, blah blah blah. 00;32;44;23 - 00;33;04;03 Unknown We think it's funny. Yes, we're making a joke about their clumsiness, for example. But for them, they're they're hearing that is a piece of shit, right? Good enough. I'm, you know, I'm stupid. You know, I'm clumsy. You know, that's how they are hearing it because they're well, you know, here's a real world example of this. 00;33;04;03 - 00;33;18;10 Unknown She's going to kill me if she sees as a friend of mine when her when she was like three. She heard her dad say. Pretty girls, he probably said this to his wife as a joke. Pretty girls, don't pee or poop. 00;33;19;08 - 00;33;43;26 Unknown Oh no. So her deduction at three years old was, I pee and poop. So I'm not pretty. And she is, but for a very long time, and I would imagine she still struggles with that. That because that's three is an impressionable time for the male who you love the most and loves you the most, says something like that 00;33;45;00 - 00;33;58;10 Unknown . So I think it's it's important that we always remember that they can hear little ears here. We think they don't. But my my adult children now tell me, yes, we heard all of it. So. So we have to remember. 00;33;59;01 - 00;34;20;08 Unknown But now, on the other hand of that, this is something I wanted to ask you about, too, the victim mentality that we're seeing these days. You mentioned it's a virtue. Right. So having something wrong or something you're struggling with or something like that, they they a lot of times see it as a virtue or an identity. 00;34;20;08 - 00;34;33;09 Unknown Now I'm part of an accepted group and that type of thing. And while we do want to be sensitive to our kids, we want to lift them up and we want to deal with their issues, whether they're small or great. 00;34;33;25 - 00;34;51;00 Unknown We also want to help them become resilient. That's what we're here for. We're here to teach them. But you're going to bump your knee and it's going to bleed and but you can clean it up and it'll scab over and you should not stop skateboarding because you bumped your knee, right where this day and age, it just 00;34;51;00 - 00;35;08;06 Unknown seems like the first time a kid bumps his knee. They wrap them and plastic wrap. Throw everything away, and that's the end of it. This is never going to happen again. We're so afraid they're going to be hurt or experienced disappointment that we weaken them instead of help them become more resilient. 00;35;08;06 - 00;35;30;15 Unknown So how does a parent navigate that? You know, that fine line between supporting them, loving them and nurturing them right versus turning them into, you know, victims and weak weaklings? How do we do that? Well, it's a good point, because resiliency is the number one thing for health, for all, you know, mental health and physical health. 00;35;30;15 - 00;35;43;08 Unknown You know, we're all going to get sick. But what is our immune system doing is are we able to fight it? So it's the same so emotionally to raise, you know, emotionally resilient kids. first of all, they need to see that we're emotionally resilient. 00;35;43;23 - 00;36;05;29 Unknown So, you know, if we're drinking every day. And that's what they're seeing as a coping skill. Unfortunately, you know, addiction becomes possibly in their wheelhouse and part of what they're doing. And those with addictions tend to be a little bit more blamey, I would say, of other people, you know, this person is making me feel this way 00;36;05;29 - 00;36;19;14 Unknown , blah blah blah. And not always, but it's just maladaptive coping skills. It's never anything negative. It's just if we're doing this, we want to find healthier ways of coping ourselves. So first of all, comes from, you know, what's the family system like? 00;36;19;14 - 00;36;34;20 Unknown What are we doing? Are we showing resiliency? Are we labeling ourselves? So I always will crack people like instead of saying, you know, if someone says, Well, you're a liar, I said, No, no, you had lied. Right? Completely. 00;36;34;28 - 00;36;56;00 Unknown It changes the entire thing. And we're not constantly putting ourselves down constantly and then becoming like the victim of circumstances. So part of the resiliency to when you want to build resilient kids is letting them fail. I mean, when we were when they were learning how to walk, we didn't stand holding their hand. 00;36;56;00 - 00;37;15;12 Unknown They would never have learned how we let go. We let them take a couple of steps and fall. And then after that, we forgot. Right? That, you know. And then, you know, I think, you know, I make jokes all the time about myself because it is more difficult because we are talking about spectrum, right? 00;37;15;14 - 00;37;36;18 Unknown It is much more difficult to allow a child on the spectrum because you don't know what's learned dependency and what's really, they can't do it right. So even as a therapist with all my knowledge and all my knowingness, I tend to, you know, depending on the nurture versus nature again, depending on the nature of the child, I 00;37;36;18 - 00;37;53;10 Unknown have to. And both of them have the opposite. Elena took the spoon out of my hand when she was six months old and said, I'll do it myself. And, you know, in her little language, and I understood what she was saying because she had corrugated syllables, unlike my son who just said da da da. 00;37;53;11 - 00;38;03;04 Unknown And I thought that that was language, and it wasn't until realizing what language was. But she would pull it out of my hand. There are a lot of nonverbal cues on that. My son literally would have his mouth open. 00;38;03;04 - 00;38;22;15 Unknown Still, if I want, if I wanted to feed him, he'd probably love it. So part of it is like nature. So it's a very hard. To fight that, I mean, but we have to. So sometimes these kids, just naturally from the time they're very, very young, they just have more of a dependency personality. 00;38;22;15 - 00;38;40;14 Unknown They want someone else to feed them. They want somebody else to help them will. And sometimes we're so rushed that it's just seems easier, yes, to just tie their shoe, then the struggle because, you know, especially even with all of his motor problems like to watch him was like, so painful. 00;38;40;25 - 00;38;53;20 Unknown So it's just easier to do it. So part of it is on speed. And then part of it is just because we can't handle our own pain, right? And handle watching our kids suffer this way or suffer. That's the word we use. 00;38;53;20 - 00;39;07;01 Unknown That's the word we attached. But maybe at their own pace, maybe they're learning the way they have to learn. Maybe they have to get frustrated in order to say, You know what, I'm going to do it a different way because our kids today don't know how to problem solve. 00;39;07;25 - 00;39;27;02 Unknown Well, and that's where they use the word suffer. Not all our kids, but well, yeah, yeah. But but it is a bigger problem. Yeah, and that's why and I say this. The problem is we not only do we not want, I mean, nobody wants their kids to suffer or experience disappointment, but it's part of life. 00;39;27;03 - 00;39;44;22 Unknown Life is tough. It's not fair. You have to work no matter who you are or where it's still is tough. Everybody has problems. They're just different. We don't want to want our kids to suffer or feel disappointed. But which is, I can understand that, but we don't. 00;39;44;22 - 00;40;02;12 Unknown We never allow them to suffer or be disappointed. And you know, I always tell when I talk about fairness, right? We have a warped sense of the word fair. OK. Oh yeah. If you and I go hiking and I bring lunch and you don't bring lunch, what's fair as I eat lunch and you don't? 00;40;02;12 - 00;40;20;12 Unknown That's what's fair. Right now, what's merciful is I would give you half of my lunch because obviously you need it more than I do. So I would give it right. But. The suffering, though, that we would both experience if we both forgot her lunch and I couldn't bail you out or you couldn't bail me out was the 00;40;20;12 - 00;40;34;11 Unknown next time we go hiking. We would remember to bring our lunch. And that's an important, you know, so a little bit of suffering, right? If if you're not going to die, it's not going to cause permanent damage, a little bit of suffering is a good thing if you learn from it. 00;40;34;22 - 00;40;54;03 Unknown And I think it's more important that we talk about the suffering and how to avoid it in the future, rather than just completely removing it from their lives unless we want them living with us forever, right? And the same sometimes goes for anxiety or even a little bit of sadness, and I don't by any means mean to 00;40;54;03 - 00;41;15;18 Unknown diminish anxiety or panic. But if you're walking into a room full of people you don't know, you should feel anxious a little bit. That's what keeps you from walking in and acting a fool. Right, right. So there is a certain mechanism that's part of our creative being that prevents us from acting foolish and anxiety. 00;41;16;01 - 00;41;33;05 Unknown Being uncomfortable or nervous in a different situation helps us to recognize danger signals and avoid it. And if we're always removing that, and that's one thing, you know? We I see parents do things for kids all the time, talk to the cashier or to their food. 00;41;33;14 - 00;41;46;27 Unknown Why is that? Well, he's anxious. He doesn't like to talk. No, no, no, no, no honey. What? What are you going to do? He'll be living in his home with a hoodie on ordering everything on an app. And that's no, no good. 00;41;46;27 - 00;41;59;26 Unknown So how do we navigate that where we just make them do this stuff? Sometimes that like I'm sure you find, even in your practice, sometimes that that might be part of the problem while you're having to talk to this person. 00;42;00;07 - 00;42;12;27 Unknown Yeah, well, definitely. I mean, my dad always said, life is fair, and then you die. Life's not fair. And then you die. Yeah. He would just always throw all that stuff. And, you know, if I say it's not fair, you know, if I say I was bored, he'd say, No, no, you're just boring. 00;42;13;14 - 00;42;28;22 Unknown Yeah, right, right. You would never let us get away with that kind of talk. So again, I think it's like. But it's like it became rote, right? I mean, every time, like if I was like, I can't do something, he's like, Oh yes, you can like, right? 00;42;29;01 - 00;42;40;25 Unknown And he'd walk away. And then maybe in like a half an hour if we really were struggling, he would, you know, but then he would say, Well, what? What do you do next? So help you God do it for you, not do it. 00;42;40;25 - 00;42;56;04 Unknown He would never do it to the point where, you know, I went to college and I'm by myself, you know, like, so this is where I'm like, I remember like filling out applications all by myself, and I remember thinking, like everyone else is, my parents are filling out their college applications that my dad, right, want to go 00;42;56;04 - 00;43;11;01 Unknown to college. I guess you have to fill out your application like so I mean, obviously, I can go too far sometimes. But I think in some ways, like I am totally resilient. I know how to fill in an application, know how to change a tire on my car, like these are life skills. 00;43;11;01 - 00;43;28;18 Unknown So I think you're absolutely correct. We're taking the opportunity a way for them to learn life skills, to problem solve, to figure themselves out. And it's a it's a cultural problem in the world right now, and I don't know if it's because we overcompensated because our parents before, you know, in my young life, I don't think I 00;43;28;18 - 00;43;44;23 Unknown think there was less involvement. And I think overall there was a less anxiety. And I think it's being it's the heightened anxiety in everyone that's just we're on this hamster wheel. And I think that that's probably part of why we're just jumping in to fix it. 00;43;44;23 - 00;43;59;03 Unknown But we're, you know, there was an article written about 15 years ago that is called Are we raising a nation of WIMPs? Great article, I think it was like Psychology Today, and it talked about like kids that were cutting and doing all these self-harming things or. 00;43;59;23 - 00;44;15;23 Unknown And they it was all because we were over doing it for them emotionally and physically that we were creating a society of kids that couldn't, couldn't do things themselves. So yes, I see that. And then how that manifests. 00;44;15;23 - 00;44;32;25 Unknown Is there 25 years old or older? They're literally in their parents basement. They're on video games all day. They have no interest in getting a job. They also have these inflated egos of like, Well, if I can't make $100,000 a year, then I'm not working. 00;44;33;12 - 00;44;45;20 Unknown Oh, they have no idea that like, you have to get the $15 an hour first right at your boss has to like you and promote you. And that's how life works, even if you graduate from college, you know. 00;44;45;20 - 00;45;00;04 Unknown So I have these college graduates, do they're sitting on their there because everything came too easy for them? And you know, I look at my two kids and my son struggles the hardest with with academics, much harder than my daughter. 00;45;00;04 - 00;45;11;14 Unknown But I have to say his work ethic when it comes to school and his work ethic when it comes is better than hers because he's had to work so hard, he knows what it means to have to study. 00;45;11;21 - 00;45;24;10 Unknown He knows what it means to have to like, sit down and do the work where she she can get away without even trying which. So it's like it's almost like the same thing. If you're sitting in the living room without even trying, your mother's always just folding your clothes for you. 00;45;24;20 - 00;45;43;14 Unknown You'll never learn how to fold the clothes, right? This is the clip I'm going to show my 16 year old right now. Folderol clothes, right? So, yeah, so there is. And again, I think both of us would. You especially would acknowledge that anxiety is real. 00;45;43;15 - 00;46;10;24 Unknown Depression is real or definitely not diminishing any mental health issue. But every bit of anxiety is not a mental health issue. Every sadness you experience or disappointment is not depression. And at some point, even if it's real anxiety, real depression, you want to treat it, deal with it, work through it so that you are more resilient and 00;46;10;24 - 00;46;25;07 Unknown then you can deal with some of these other problems. I think the act of accomplishing something and working through something ultimately will will help you in the future as well. So you want to get to the root of it, right? 00;46;25;12 - 00;46;37;17 Unknown If a person has anxiety or depression, you want to get to the root of why. You know, if it's a trauma related situation, you want to get them the help, you know? You know, I do EMDR for trauma and my therapy practice psychotherapist. 00;46;38;10 - 00;46;57;03 Unknown You know, we're here. We're here to do to help kids learn coping skills, to help kids work through feelings. I mean, so that's why we do what we do. And then on the other time, you know, I'm learning more and more about biomedicine and how our our biology and how if we're deficient in certain nutrients, how that 00;46;57;03 - 00;47;13;22 Unknown affects our mood and our in our body, how we're functioning, our muscle function, everything. And so we don't do enough in the society to look for underlying causes. Kids just don't wake up anxious. one day something has had to happen either bio medically or emotionally. 00;47;13;22 - 00;47;31;15 Unknown You know, trauma something. Something happened, and we're just so quick to just give a kid a medication ADHD medication if they're not paying attention. Anxiety medication. If they feel even the slightest bit anxious and there's no investigation, we call off the search for any understanding of why these kids are this way in the first place. 00;47;31;24 - 00;47;52;12 Unknown Right? And that's why I had to write my book Healing Without Hurting, because there's 101 things we could be doing for our children that we're not doing, whether it be therapy related because I list all the therapy options Western Eastern, I name, you know, all the nutritional deficiencies, what causes those toxicity? 00;47;52;12 - 00;48;09;12 Unknown What causes that? And we really have to figure out why is it a child sleeping, you know, sleep? That's another one. Kids are anxious because they're not sleeping. Kids are anxious because they're not getting enough protein because they need protein to break down two amino acids to break down into neurotransmitters and to create air transmitters. 00;48;09;18 - 00;48;27;20 Unknown Right. So if you have no friends, you know, no dopamine, you're going to be pretty depressed. If you don't have vitamin D like vitamin D is the sunshine vitamin, you're going to be pretty depressed. You know, a lot of these kids to gaming sweatshirts over their head in the basement, their vitamin D level could be at like 00;48;28;05 - 00;48;45;12 Unknown zero. Right? That's not going to be good. So not only are they affecting themselves, emotionally giving themselves PTSD and all of that, but they're also depriving themselves of sunshine in nature and exercise and all the things that help to build those neurotransmitters in their bodies. 00;48;45;14 - 00;49;03;26 Unknown It's good for your immune system, it's good for your mental health, it's good for your physically, I mean, all all across the board and you know. There seems to be a couple different camps, so to speak when it comes, comes to things like therapy and in helping kids be resilient and things like that. 00;49;05;10 - 00;49;20;16 Unknown I don't think either of us are looking to change any his personality, right? If you're on the spectrum, there are unique gifts that come with that right. There are there are good things that come with ADHD or ADHD. 00;49;20;25 - 00;49;41;03 Unknown It's learning to channel it so that it can help the kid become a productive adult so that they can enjoy life. It's not about managing them or making them easier for the parents to deal with. It's about helping them be resilient and successful themselves so they can get as much enjoyment out of life as they can. 00;49;41;24 - 00;50;03;14 Unknown Sometimes that's very limited. Sometimes it can be a very high functioning situation. Sometimes it's a temporary situation if they're not on the spectrum and there are other things involved. So, you know, I've we've even got some blowback online from folks who are upset about our product Neural Balance because it helps to balance the endocannabinoid system. 00;50;03;22 - 00;50;18;08 Unknown So it helps to deal with some of that sensory overload, anxiety and things like that. But it doesn't make you drowsy or sleepy. We don't want to make a kid a zombie. We want to help them deal with some of the difficulties that come with having an out of balance endocannabinoid system. 00;50;18;19 - 00;50;31;13 Unknown So we don't want to change personality. We want to help them. And that's what you're looking to do, too. With the training and in the counseling and the tips that you share with parents, it's it's to support and care for. 00;50;31;14 - 00;50;51;08 Unknown You can't just ignore the difficulties that the kid is having and say, Well, that's who they are because of this or that, that's not really healthy for them, either. So it is important to find that happy medium. So we want to always support them with love, with some touch, with some good inner, you know, good nutrition, good 00;50;51;08 - 00;51;05;24 Unknown food and all of that great stuff and almost everything that we've talked about, if not all of it. And then much more is found in your book. So like I said, we'll link to your website so people can see where they can get that. 00;51;05;24 - 00;51;20;24 Unknown And look, we're just we're really just, you know, maximizing their potential. Right, right. And whatever that potential is, and for some kids, they lose diagnoses altogether. I mean, in my mind, diagnoses are made up by pharmaceutical companies anyway. 00;51;21;04 - 00;51;33;09 Unknown I mean, we could just we could almost take anybody and everyone will have everything on the spectrum. You know, like everyone in my mind, everyone's on the spectrum. Right? That's right. Everybody gets a little excited. Someone else has a little attention problems, blah blah blah. 00;51;33;10 - 00;51;47;24 Unknown And then of course, there are some kids that are much more severe, but at the same time, we're just maximizing their potential. We want them to be the best that they could be. And yes, it helps the whole family system too, because when everyone's calm, that helps us. 00;51;47;25 - 00;52;04;00 Unknown It's like everybody's a little happier everyone. Well, and you know, I'd say the biggest fear that I and I mean, I can talk to a kid, a parent with a kid who's three years old on the spectrum that parents biggest fear is usually my kids are going to outlive me. 00;52;04;25 - 00;52;21;12 Unknown And who's going to care for my kid? Nobody's going to love my kid and care for my kid. Be willing to put as much effort into my kid as I will. So it's important that you do as much as you can to help them be as resilient as possible for their own sake. 00;52;23;01 - 00;52;42;21 Unknown Because, you know, chances are you're they're going to outlive you. So you you do want them to be as happy and productive as possible so that they're not just stuck in a home or something, or God forbid, someone takes advantage of them because they're unable to care for themselves. 00;52;42;21 - 00;53;00;08 Unknown So that's a big concern. I think helping them be more resilient and get through this stuff is definitely a big part of that. So, all right. Well, I appreciate you talking with me about this stuff. I think it's it's good content and hopefully it will be valuable to to our viewers. 00;53;01;04 - 00;53;25;00 Unknown So now we're going to a new segment that hopefully we won't keep finding more things to make fun of. But the Fouty Follies, you mentioned a few things during the course of the talk and masks and mandates. I don't really want to discourage anybody from from doing what they think they need to do to keep themselves or 00;53;25;00 - 00;53;39;27 Unknown their family safe or anything like that. But I'm a big, data driven guy, and when I look at the all of the different data that's out there, I don't think that the masks and the mandates are playing out to be such a great idea. 00;53;40;03 - 00;53;56;12 Unknown But I'm not a professional either. But one thing that I do notice is daily almost. We receive conflicting information from the powers that be the CDC may. Put out two or three different statements that some don't make sense, then the W.H.O.. 00;53;57;07 - 00;54;20;27 Unknown But who do you trust? You know you have a guy like Anthony Fauci, who all the way back to the HIV debacle during the Eighties and all that he was withholding information and doing things that were not at all helpful but very profitable for him and the people he was associated with, in some cases, very detrimental to 00;54;20;27 - 00;54;37;03 Unknown people that were suffering with HIV. And now here we fast forward. I don't know how he's flown under the radar all this time. But, you know, he sits in a in a congressional hearing and he lies through his teeth and people believe him because he is who he is. 00;54;37;03 - 00;54;50;06 Unknown But then we find out a couple of weeks later that it was it was true. What you know what Rand Paul was questioning him about was true, the gain of function experiments and all that. So we find out that that's true. 00;54;50;06 - 00;55;09;04 Unknown We find out that they've been been funding it, that he's kind of kept, you know, a lot of information from us. It's one thing after another with this guy. So I mean, what do you think about that? How do we actually since I talked to you just a week ago, what if what else have you learned about 00;55;09;04 - 00;55;25;12 Unknown him? No, there was one since we talked that, which I'm not. I mean, I don't mean to sound like jubilant about it because this is even more tragic. But here he's experimenting on foster kids orphans in New York. 00;55;26;19 - 00;55;40;29 Unknown So he's just he's he's not a good guy. And this is a guy who's making the policy. It seems for everybody, and we're supposed to trust that. So what do we even do? And what else have you learned that he's been up to that we can poke fun at him about? 00;55;42;04 - 00;56;01;01 Unknown Well, I always call him flip flop Fauci, because I like that. Nothing he

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