Dr. Sigoloff

This is Part I in a four part series. This series all about highlighting true leaders. These four leaders that I interviewed are the example of what a leader truly is. There are two types of leaders in the military: Assigned and emergent. Through sacrificing their assigned leadership position they have now become emergent leaders. History will look back with awe on these leaders that refused to go off the cliff with the rest of society. All of these four leaders have at least one thing in common, they have built the foundation of their life upon the solid Rock of Jesus. Today I talk with Former CPT Dave Hamski (AIRBORNE!). Dave was an Airborne Company Commander at Fort Richardson, AK. He refused to give the order for his soldiers to take the COVID-19 gene therapy. He also refused to take the gene therapy. Next week please join me as I talk to Former LTC Bradly Miller who was a Battalion Commander at Fort Campbell (Rakkasan). 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Sam Sigoloff: You know, they, they ordered us to be reprimanded. However, we've made it into the order of the reprimand. We've taken what they've meant for evil, and we've turned it into something good. All right. Enough about that. Today we have Dave Hams. Now I kind of stumbled across Dave on LinkedIn. Go check him out. Sam Sigoloff: He's got a business that he's running. It's kind of an outdoorsy thing. You might enjoy it. It's a summer thing. You know, if, if you can spend some time with him. But let's learn [00:02:00] about his story today. So, so Dave, you, well, first tell me why you're, why you wanna share your experience publicly. Dave Hamski: Hey Sam. Dave Hamski: Thanks for having me on. Just wanna start off by saying Happy Veterans Day. And you know, my purpose for, for being on sharing my story, what my goal is, is to. Connect with all service members at current and past that have been deeply affected by a stable military right now. Especially with the, the mandate and then it goes for both those who are vaccinated and unvaccinated. Dave Hamski: And you know, specifically for company level leaders and field grade level leaders I hope that I can create some, some thought-provoking discussion amongst them and you know, I'm not even gonna bother, bother with the GOs. They're too far gone at this part at this point. But you know, I do think there's still hope for company level leaders and field grade level leaders to right, the [00:03:00] wrongs that have occurred and I'm just hoping to generate and encourage them. Sam Sigoloff: And one thing that, that I wanna make abundantly clear is, cuz you, you kind of touched on this, but there's the jab and there's the un jabbed. Mm-hmm. . And, and I don't like those divisions. You know, I, I feel, I feel bad for people that took the jab feeling that they, you know, being coerced, many of them being coerced and many of those, you know, and those that wanted to get it, many of them lied to. Sam Sigoloff: So I certainly don't want this to be a us against them, cuz it's not, that's not, this is at all, Dave Hamski: I mean, we all wear the same uniform, you know? And, and that's what it's about is, hey, we all wear the same uniform. We have the same mission. But, but right now there is a distinction that's been made unfairly. Dave Hamski: And you know, hey, if we're gonna get the mission done we, we need to, we need to correct some things and not look at ourselves as those who have and those who have not totally agree with you. Sam Sigoloff: and there's [00:04:00] this idea in the military, you know, you're not, you're not, you know, Asian or American or Hispanic or black or white or this or that, or green. Sam Sigoloff: We're all green. Exactly. You know, I had a special forces patient who was in the Special forces in in VE Vietnam. And he was in there before, you know, like the early, like the, I think it was the late sixties, and he was African American and everyone is green to them. That's, that's how he like, it shocked him when he had a, a combatant say, how can you fight for these people when you can't sit at, at a dinner table with everyone you're standing here with? Sam Sigoloff: And he is like, what are you talking? I mean this, you know, cuz he spoke Polish, this African American man spoke Polish cuz he grew up in a Polish neighborhood. It's like colors not a thing and we, it's we're all green. Well, same thing with this shot. It's not v un vax, it's, we're all green fighting the same mission. Sam Sigoloff: And, and the leadership has come down and said, no, [00:05:00] your different split up. No, your different split up causing division. And many of us have bought into that, that garbage that we are different, unfortunately. Dave Hamski: Exactly. And, and we just need to, I, I think things like this right now addressing that, that, that helps end. Dave Hamski: And that distinction that's been made and, and I mean it shouldn't be our responsibility, but unfortunately we're the ones who are taking it on to and, and like actively taking it on right now. So I gotta build the momentum and keep that Sam Sigoloff: going. Sam Sigoloff: I think you Sam Sigoloff: have a dog next to you that's not Dave Hamski: Yeah, I'm sorry that they just woke up. Dave Hamski: It's . I think they were saying hello earlier when you're doing a call out to shout out to to everybody. So, Sam Sigoloff: so you know what that noise is, isn't that? Yeah. Yeah. . We're are we? Okay. So, so yeah. So, and one of the most important things is why are you here? Tell me what your job was, what you did and what put you in this position now that you get to have a nice, long beer and you get to work for [00:06:00] yourself Dave Hamski: Exactly. Yeah. So I was a company commander stationed at joint based Al Manor in Alaska. I commanded in the it's now two 11 and I was in third Battalion, five oh ninth Infantry. The the G Men , so. I served as a coming commander for a line infantry airborne company baker company specifically. Dave Hamski: And then after that command, I was selected the command again for headquarters and headquarters company of the 35 0 9. And that's where I was relieved of command for refusing to support the vaccine mandate Sam Sigoloff: and for the listener. Like they don't just pick anybody to be a commander. It's one of the most challenging jobs that you can have as a company commander because you're, you're fairly young typically. Sam Sigoloff: You know, you're, it's lieutenant, lieutenant, captain, second, first lieutenant, and then captain. So you, I mean, you've been in, you've had three promotions [00:07:00] mm-hmm. , but the people who become company commanders, they're the ones who are, who rise above their peers as leaders. So, so what happened next? You were relieved and, and kind of go into that a bit. Dave Hamski: Yeah. So just a little timeline for you. You know, about March, 2021 it's, you know, pretty clear that, hey, the the vaccine's gonna roll out already, well, actually had already rolled out. And and people were lining up to to, to receive it. And ra there's talks that, okay, hey, this is gonna be mandated for the military. Dave Hamski: And I immediately just felt that it, it was not right. I was, I had immediate concerns, you know, I thought, man, this is like really, really rushed. I, I even had, you know, a former colleague who was on operational war speed. I, I talked. To him about it and [00:08:00] everything was, oh, hey, like, you know, we were able to cut through red tape that normally happens for with, with other vaccines production. Dave Hamski: But this is safe and effective, you know, the same line over and over again. And I, you know, started developing my, my own analysis in my head going, okay, hey, you know, this is, this is gonna be very big. It's gonna, you know, it's gonna get, gonna be mandated for the entire force. Like I, this just does not seem right, this does not seem, this does not sit well with me. Dave Hamski: And so, you know, going on through the months I end up then taking command of hhc in April, and this is after having had C I, I got c and. You know, I, I recovered thankfully. And from there, the there was this, you know, steady push, okay, hey, you know, go, it's available, go get now. Dave Hamski: You know, summer comes and I still haven't gotten it. [00:09:00] And I think that there, that's when talks started to occur, you know, about like, oh hey, like, you know, the vaccines here, you know you know, leaders lead out in front you, you go and get the, the vaccine first and then others will follow. You know, like, we need to, to show our shoulders, we'll do what, what they should do. Dave Hamski: And I wasn't having any of that. I was like, okay, hey, no, this is not, this is not ethical. And, and then, you know, we started getting closer to the mandate date and. It's very, very obvious now that people, that there's a small co cohort of officers and leaders who have not gotten the vaccine yet. And so I'm getting talked to just off the side, you know, at like breakfast or anything like, Hey, Kim Haki, like, you know what are your thoughts on the vaccine and everything? Dave Hamski: I just tell people straight up like, I'm not getting it. I'm like, this is [00:10:00] unethical. This is an experiment and this is, this is not gonna work out right. And I said, there's no, Sam Sigoloff: I love that boldness just straight from the start, just so I'm not getting it. I just mm-hmm. , I love it. Dave Hamski: And, and you know, I had discussions with my wife about it too, where you know, I was like, I just don't feel this is right. Dave Hamski: I don't I don't think this healthy. And, and she said, You know, Hey, this is your decision. And, and I just love that respect, you know, like, and I think that's the respect that everyone should have had from the very beginning. Hey, this is your decision, your, your health decision. You can, you know, if you want to get the vaccine you, you can go ahead and get it. Dave Hamski: You know, personally, I, I recommend against it , , you know, for these various reasons. And my, my wife has a health background, so she's like, Hey, listen, like these are some, some concerning things about it. And you know, but I'm not going, I'm not the one to make that decision. I'm the one here to, you know, support you. Dave Hamski: And so I just tell her, I [00:11:00] was like, I'm, I'm not gonna get this. There's just two, I mean, what about fertility risks? What about, you know, us wanting to start a family? Like what all the things we don't know right now? You know? So that's, that's the stance I took. And then, you know, we'll see here , the mandate comes and it's like that weeker two week period or so after the mandate came out where they're like, okay, hey, like y'all have, you have this amount of time to get it. Dave Hamski: We had a brigade run, you know, oh, don't you love brigade runs? You know, it's . Sam Sigoloff: I luckily don't have to Sam Sigoloff: do many of those in a doctor. Yeah, Dave Hamski: exactly. So at the very end, our brigade commander called all the company commanders and first sergeants in into a circle. And very, very sternly said to all of us, like, you all will get vaccinated or I will relieve you of command or responsibility, whatever it may [00:12:00] be. Dave Hamski: You will receive a relief for cause oer. You can get either court marshaled or dishonorably discharged. And he's like, we're not messing around with this. Just get it. When was this like, on or about time? This was on or about the August? It had August 20. August 20? Yes. August 21. Wow. Yeah. So August or early September Dave Hamski: 21. Sam Sigoloff: I was in Alaska until probably like July of 21 and I think it was like in March. Okay. I had a, a, my, my boss and doctor said, SIG off. Quit. Quit telling patients not to get the shot. But sir, I've never told anyone not to get the shot. That's a foolish thing to say. I give them the truth as best I can and he said, but you knows off. Sam Sigoloff: You can tell him. Exactly. Get the shot. I would never tell anybody. Get a new experimental form of treatment. That's not even a, a [00:13:00] vaccine. It's a gene therapy that has ingredients in it that are not. For human use, but, okay, sorry. Yep. Yeah. So it's this culture. Exactly. And, and I, as, as a doctor, I've seen many command sergeant majors who is like the enlisted right underneath the commander and many commanders who use that same phrase, well, it's not mandated yet. Sam Sigoloff: And so they, they have this culture that's been going on for months and months and months that, well, you better get it cuz you need, you'll need to get it. And you don't wanna wait in line and you know, not be able to go on leave because you didn't get it cuz there's nothing left when it's required. It's like good that, that is coercion at its worst. Dave Hamski: Yep. And, and I remember standing there and being like, okay, like if there's anything that tells me this is like, if I wasn't right to begin with, I'm like, okay, this is, you know, the bells and whistles right here. You know, I have a senior leader who's he was pissed off. I mean that there's no other way to like Yeah, exactly. Dave Hamski: And. , [00:14:00] you know, I just remember and I like the guy too, you know and I just remember being like, okay, this is not right. Like this is this right here shows like morally, there's, there's something inept about it. So I decide right then, then and there I was like, okay, I'm definitely not I'm not wavering on this at all. Dave Hamski: This is, I, I trusted my gut. I know that my gut is right on this, so let's , let's go. And that was a really difficult day because that's like the day right then and there where I knew like my career's over. So like even before everything that happened afterwards that, that I'll get into, I just remember being like, Ugh, like this is gonna be really painful. Sam Sigoloff: There, there's something that, that you had, I think inside you and I, I don't, this may describe this wrong, but this is kind of the feeling that I get. So I, I read this book a while back called Rich Dad Poor Dad. I encourage everyone to read. It's very, very informative. And he's a ex-marine, you know, what's Marine? Sam Sigoloff: Always Marine. And it's all about investment. [00:15:00] And he has this one opportunity where he's employed and they said, oh, I'm gonna pay you a dollar a week. And he's like, that's, that's way too little. And the guy's like, okay, well what would you rather have? Would you rather have $2 a week or I'll give you $50 a week? Sam Sigoloff: And he's like, whoa, wait a second. The price is not right for the job. Meaning why would you, why would you offer me so much? Because that's not right. It doesn't, you're offering way more. You're trying to coerce me to do something that maybe I don't want to do, I don't wanna sign up for. And that's the same thing with this. Sam Sigoloff: It's the price is not right. And that's, I think that may have been what you were feeling deep down is the price isn't right. Why are they trying, what is the driving force to get me to take this, even when it's not mandated yet, when it's experimental, when it's gene therapy, there's so much we don't know. Sam Sigoloff: and I, I think a lot of people have been motivated by like, they don't know why, but they just, the price isn't right. They're, they're trying to give me too much. Dave Hamski: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I couldn't agree, agree [00:16:00] more with you on that because you know, of course anyone who's refused has heard the the counter-argument, you know, well, you got all the other ones. Dave Hamski: Why are you making a big deal? Big deal about this And, and that's, that comes back to what you're talking about with the prices right there. I even said to my commanders, like, you know, I would strongly consider this if they actually finish the phase four trials on it, you know, but hey, that takes about eight years total to, to be done. Dave Hamski: And I was like, can you, and, and this was one of my arguments that, well, like one of my points that I would share with anyone who like had to counsel me about not taking the jab is I. Do you know of anyone who's had, who's conceived and had a healthy child yet? After both or just one of the parents getting, getting vaccinated, and that was always just waved off. Dave Hamski: Like, and I was like, Hey, this is where I'm at in my stage of life, and I'm not gonna let [00:17:00] anyone anyone interfere with that. And it, it was, you know, waved off as like, okay, like, well, we understand, we're like, we're respecting that, but like, you know, like it's safe and effective. Like it's not gonna it. Dave Hamski: And I'm like, you don't know that. I'm like, you can't tell me right now and think about it. Think about the cohort that we have here in the military. Generally all these people have their lives, their entire lives ahead of them. And, you know, Y we can't tell them definitively, Hey, this is gonna mess up. Dave Hamski: This will either save you or it won't mess up the rest of your life. You know, like that. I, I was just so like, how do you all not see the ethical dilemma here? So, you know, moving on from that you know, we had to do counseling. So, you know, finally, I think it was like a week or two later you know, the [00:18:00] date passes where it's like, okay, hey, you're going to be behind now. Dave Hamski: Like, you won't be vaccinated in time because you didn't take the first shot. So like we all got sat down and it was, this was like the second point at which I knew, okay, hey this is not. a ethical or morally sound order. And this whole entire mandate is, is wrong, is my commander cannot give the order in a strong, confident way. Dave Hamski: So there is lots of, you know, swallowing and like, like talking as if the, he's reading off of a paper and he's just not doing it confidently. He's like, I am ordering you all to take the Covid 19 vaccine COVID 19 vaccine prevents the covid 19 disease. And, and, and he just like would stop and be like [00:19:00] and it was just awkward and it was, I'll never forget because, you know, I've received many orders in my life and. Dave Hamski: And this one stood out as the, the weakest order I've ever been given. And, and I've been given orders in environments where things were super stressful or super uncertain, but still it was like, okay, hey, I don't know if we should do this, but we have to do something and this is our best bet right now. Dave Hamski: And being airborne, this order was just so Sam Sigoloff: weekly being airborne when you're in the plane and you don't jump when you're supposed to jump. I mean, that, that's an order to jump. And, and if you, they'll make you like, at least in the school, because I've done my, I've done my five jumps. I, I know . Yeah, do another one. Sam Sigoloff: Hopefully airborne. But they have you sit on your hands because they don't want you messing with your stuff and, and making a problem when there maybe wasn't. But if you don't like to disobey that order, you must prove that there was a reason why you didn't obey it when you get on the ground. And if [00:20:00] there's something wrong with your equipment, good on you. Sam Sigoloff: If not, well bad on you cuz you just disobey an order. To jump out of a plane like that, that's how orders are given. That's the magnitude of orders you can get in trouble. And here he is kind of mey mouth given this order. It's like, that's typically, it's jump outta the plane, go take the hill, you know, go do pt. Dave Hamski: Exactly. And so that, that's what leads me to this next point. You know, I wrote, I wrote this down because I wanted to make sure I, I said it correctly. But when a commander's giving an order, it's not just a justification enough to say that order is obedient to the orders from those above, above him. Dave Hamski: So you know who, whether it be a policy maker or a senior military official you know that it's obedient to what they're saying to do when giving that order. The commander. Must also take responsibility for that order. So [00:21:00] what I think was happening with, with some of these commanders is they were unsure of that responsibility part. Dave Hamski: They know, okay, hey, I've been told I'm just following orders, I'm being obedient to the chain of command. But I think that deep down inside most of these commanders had some sort of confliction with the responsibility of it. Does that make sense? Sam Sigoloff: It sure does. Cause it just didn't seem right, so nothing is right about it and it's not right. Dave Hamski: Yeah. And, and that's where, you know, I think people. , they rely too much on the, oh, it's a legal order. Like, I can't tell you how many times I heard that it's a legal order. It's a legal order. Okay. Just because a, a, an order can be legal, but not morally or ethically based, you know, not morally or ethically sound at [00:22:00] all. Dave Hamski: And so, you know, you and I as officers, all all officers, we have a obligation to refuse and dissent any orders that are not morally, ethically, or legally sound. And so, you know, that's what I really encourage, you know, leaders right now you know, especially our company grade and field grade officers is, this is not over with, with the way that technology is being pushed and especially biotechnology. Dave Hamski: unfortunately, we're gonna run into this issue again, unless something drastically changes, and maybe we're the beginning of the change here, but they need to be aware that the orders that they're giving have to meet those three criteria. They have to be, and, and it, I'd argue in this order, you know, morally, ethically, and then [00:23:00] lawfully sound, they had to meet all those criteria. Dave Hamski: And it is very possible today to have orders that are legal but not morally or ethically sound. And so in a different, and as an officer, you gotta refuse Sam Sigoloff: it. The difference there, the illegal and the lawful are different. And a lot of times that's not well understood. But for something to be legally to, to be legal means that someone wrote down somewhere and some people voted on it and they made it a law. Sam Sigoloff: Now for something to be lawful, that means that mm-hmm. , you are not infringing on someone's God-given rights. So what that means, like a good example of this would be, it might be legal to own slaves. Cuz you could have a lot of have that like we had in our country at one point, but it's certainly not lawful. Sam Sigoloff: Mm-hmm. , everyone agrees that that is, that's a terrible thing to have. And, and we know that because it's, it's written on our hearts that that is wrong. And so that's the difference between legality [00:24:00] or something being legally correct and lawfully correct. Dave Hamski: Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah. You hit the nail on the head there with that. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. And we had some more, I had some other questions that I wanted to ask you. We talked about how you were, did we talk about how you were treated different for refusing? We've kind of tangentially hit that. Dave Hamski: Yes. So you know, when I was doing my counseling specifically with the, the brigade command team and brigade jag and all that, one of the points that came up or like there's just accusations that, you know, others who refused, didn't receive. Dave Hamski: And so the main accusation now's put against me was I was holding up the the vaccine the vaccination of the force, and that [00:25:00] because I was refusing, there were others, there were a lot of others below me that were refusing. And while, I mean, I hope this is true the, the timing of it was. , you know, all those who had waited long enough and then got the first jab weren't considered fully vaccinated. Dave Hamski: So they just said, oh, this company has like, you know, 60 or some holdouts. That's all because of Captain Hams. And so, you know, that that accusation that I was, you know, like a little rebellion was, was ridiculous. I was like, I'm like, Hey, look, you know a as soon as they relieved me and, and I left the next day or so, there was the second round of [00:26:00] jabs for, for the company. Dave Hamski: And so, you know, when I got. counseled again after that, it was, they said, Hey, look, as soon as we relieved you from command, you know, the the numbers of vaccinated in your company drastically increased. And I was like, of course it did, because you know, the other people who got the second, the other people who need the second jab got it. Dave Hamski: You know, like of course, you know, of course that big sense and saw you get relieved that the numbers was, yeah. And, and so, and, and the other thing was is the, those who, I don't know of many who were relieved or not, I don't know of any of the other commanders. I apparently there's like five or six of us out there. Dave Hamski: But I don't know if anyone else in a, in a position who [00:27:00] refused it, if. They were they, they were immediately separated from the formation and kind of like ushered away without addressing the formation about what's going on. So for me the day that I refused a second time, honestly, because the first time they gave me the order, they didn't say the wording right. Dave Hamski: And then had the paper, the legal papers correctly worded, did the same. So technically we had to refuse. Didn't say to me, it was like, come back in. Exactly. And I was like, gosh, this just here, right. Shows, right here shows that it's it, it's just all a mess and not, right. Well, as soon as I refused the, the second time and they said, okay, you you need to meet with the brigade commander. Dave Hamski: So I went out to Bri Brigade commander. They already had the paperwork set up, and they said, Hey, you're hereby relieved from command by the commanding General of US Forces Army, [00:28:00] Alaska, which I thought was interesting. You know, that a general was, was relieving me instead of like my brigade commander who's like, you know, actually in charge of me. Dave Hamski: So they said, you need to go back to your office and, and clear your office out and and you are not allowed to be in your office without being escorted in there by the battalion commander. And and you're not allowed to address your formation. So it just went from like, oh, you know, Hey, hey Dave. Dave Hamski: Hey Captain Hans. Like, you know, like, we respect your, your wishes for your own health and everything to immediately like. Okay. You're not part of this team. You you are a threat like, like a prisoner. And I don't know if that was their, you were isolated, like, and so Exactly. So I think that was one, one of the most painful parts of it was I was not able to address my formation of paratroopers and say, [00:29:00] Hey guys, this is what, what's happened. Dave Hamski: I'm sure you've heard through the private news network , but I want, I was never for the opportunity to just tell them like, Hey, thank you. I really appreciate, I appreciate and I love every single one of y'all. And this is what's going on right now. Please continue to focus on the mission, focus on your job, do it well. Dave Hamski: And you know, just thank you. Okay. And I'll continue serving you because that's, that's where my heart's at. It was. I, I was never afforded that opportunity, which, you know, I will give credit to my battan commander. He did later come out and tell the battalion or my company, he's specifically just hhc, Hey, this's going on. Dave Hamski: He's gonna be up at brigade if you see him around, say hi. And, and that's that. And I was like, you know, this is, I don't think that happened to anyone else. So that was a special kind of isolation, I guess you [00:30:00] could say, or, or segregation that I, I would like to know if any other commanders, you know, went through, if that happened to 'em as well, Sam Sigoloff: and. But did you submit any sort of like let's say religious accommodations or medical exemptions to try to fight it in that, that sense? Dave Hamski: So that's, that's a really good question. So no a as a commander, I did not. And my reasoning behind that was I, I chose be it general refusal because overarching everything I just said, this is just wrong. This is unethical. And and, and that's, that's just what it is for me. And you know, I'm Jesus Christ is my savior. Dave Hamski: So, you know, as a Christian, I thought, Hey, submit a religious accommodation request. But [00:31:00] as a commander, I thought, what if my religious accommodation request gets accepted, but one of my soldiers doesn't? You know? And then I, I do have some, some health issues that that some doctors say, Hey, yeah, you it's a heart block. Dave Hamski: And so some doctors say, Hey, you shouldn't you shouldn't get the vaccine because of your heart block Sam Sigoloff: as a physician. I think you should not get it because it has products in it that we don't know. The full safety protocol of the profile of them, the, the toxicology reports are classified and it says clearly on the safety data sheet that these are not for human use. Sam Sigoloff: And one of 'em says, not for veterinary use. Dave Hamski: Yeah. And, and so I, you know, I went to a civilian doctor who said the same things on the same page. He's like, he's like, first off, like, you know, you're healthy. You're, you're [00:32:00] a young, healthy, 31 year old guy. Like, there's no reason for you to get this. Like you already had covid you, you know, have natural immunity to it. Dave Hamski: You'll probably get again, because like it's gonna, you know, morph and everything, but you're gonna be fine. And then also you said like, Hey, you know, you like, you have one of these like category one, like heart blocks which, you know, a lot of athletes have, have them. It's just like a little, you know, I'm explained to a doctor explain to just little electrical discharge. Dave Hamski: But he's like, I eat, you know, even if you weren't healthy, I'd just say like, Hey, there's just no reason to risk this right now. And so, . You know, I, I thought, okay, what if, you know, my religious accommodation request or my medical exemption request gets approved, but none of my paratroopers does soly because, you know, I'm in a position a leadership position or something like that. Dave Hamski: I just [00:33:00] thought, I don't see how there's going to actually be any, any fair determination for, for any, any request. And, you know, then it all came back to that. I just still at the very base of it, like, this is unethical and this is gonna tear the, the force apart. We, we shouldn't, we shouldn't do it. Sam Sigoloff: So if I could interject for a second, Sam Sigoloff: And this is gonna be hard to hear cuz it's, it's, it will convict many people who are listening to this who got the shot. Sam Sigoloff: And I, and I don't mean for it to be that way. So please don't as best you can, but, but use this as a way to, to look at yourself if you, cuz there is, you have a right to your own body. Right? And if you, if you, in fear of losing your job, give up your, your God-given your constitutional given rights on your own body, how can you, how can anyone expect you to protect anyone else's constitutional rights?[00:34:00] Dave Hamski: Mm-hmm. . Exactly. And, and I mean, that, that was the other thing, you know, in the position as a commander with, with, you know these, these requests, I almost felt like it, and I'm not take, take anything out against religious or medical requests, but I thought that it would obscure. The fact of the matter, which is it's wrong. Dave Hamski: You know, it's, it's an experiment. It's gene therapy. Like, and, and we were basically letting them get, get away with it. By not just outright saying no, I was like, you should not have an excuse just because of what you believe. You should not have an excuse, you know, for for like, oh, I have this medical [00:35:00] condition. Dave Hamski: It should just flat out be no, because this is, you have that got given right Sam Sigoloff: to say no. Or so, you know, God's law or nature's law, it's, you have that bestowed upon you, not because you're a citizen, but because you're a human. And all those rights are protected by the Constitution and Exactly. The Bill of Rights. Dave Hamski: Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, I decided to be a general refusal. After I was relieved of command, I went in just for the heck of it to my physician's assistant with my doctor's notes saying that I should not get the vaccine. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go in there anyways, and I just wanna hear what they're gonna say. Dave Hamski: So I signed up I called my my provider went into the, the troop medical clinic, had my appointment. I was like, Hey, so my career's already pretty much canned now. But I really wanna [00:36:00] know, like, here's my medical my medical history, should I get the vaccine? You know, I, I really don't want to, like, am I someone who could get a a medical exemption? Dave Hamski: And he looked at me and said, no, . And he's like, it's safe and effective. Hey, listen, you know, I just had, you know, a 33 year old die from this. Wow. He too long ago. And, you know, of the shot or of the disease. Yeah. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. And it, and he differentiated. Was it the disease after he had the shot? Dave Hamski: No, he said he did, he said that this was an unvaccinated 33 year old that, that that died from, cause they Sam Sigoloff: can also say you're unvaccinated if you're not two weeks past the second dose. Okay. So, I mean, there's, okay. Dave Hamski: We don't know. So he didn't, he didn't differentiate between that, but he just, you know, said like, Hey, listen, [00:37:00] like there's. Dave Hamski: there's no real viable medical explanation to go against not getting vaccinated. It's safe and effective. Get it. And, you know, I was just like, okay, well, whatever. Like, I wasted your time then . So so I, I, I did not pursue any exemptions. It was more so just for being like, okay, I wanna see what they say because, you know, I went and saw a, a civilian doctor who is telling me like, no man. Dave Hamski: Like there's no reason for get this. You should not. And I've got the paperwork for it. Let me see what the Army doc says to me about it. That's, Sam Sigoloff: that's wild. Okay. There's something that you had mentioned to me before that I thought was a very interesting idea and it's the, the Baba syndrome. 2.0. Can you, can you share that idea? Sam Sigoloff: I think it's, it's hitting the nail right on the head. Dave Hamski: [00:38:00] Yes. Okay. So for, for those who aren't familiar with the story of Shiba, there was King David and he's he, he's ruling over his land. He's out on top of one of his towers there, and he looks out and he sees this beautiful woman be Sheba who's, who's over on another rooftop. Dave Hamski: And he, you know, LUS after her and he finds out that one of his military commanders is the husband of, of be Sheba. So you know, king David goes on to have an affair with Be Sheba and in order to hide it from that military commander. , he orders that military commander and his army to appoint in a battle where they all get slaughtered. Dave Hamski: He knew that these he knew that his military, military commander and those soldiers would, would not be able to hold and [00:39:00] that point of the battle. But he sent them anyways, so you know, later on he, he repents for, for that. And you know, we, our, our military leaders, they, there's a couple senior ranking military leaders who have suffered from best Sheba syndrome where, you know, they've been at the top of their game and they go and have an extra marital affair. Dave Hamski: Or they spend government money in an illegal way and they end up getting, you know, they end up getting caught and their careers get torched. And it's all it is over the news. You know, and I mean, I won't name names, but this has happened multiple times. You can, you know, just look, just type up be Sheba syndrome military leaders and, and there there's unfortunately a long list of those who have fallen to this. Dave Hamski: Well, you know, it's that [00:40:00] leader who is betraying others due to his lust or his greed. What I notice is a phenomenon with the military leaders that, that I've talked to that, that got the, the vaccine. There's a quite a few who said to me, I don't want this, but I need to get it in order to protect my career. Dave Hamski: Or I don't want this, but I'm two years away from retiring. I just need to get it. Or, you know, these are people and I'm very, very much making distinction that these are people in positions of authority. So like senior non-commissioned officers and you know, feel grade and company leader officers, they're saying, I don't want this, but they're getting it anyways. Dave Hamski: And what that is, is they're betraying [00:41:00] themselves and then those who are in positions of authority and ordering. The soldiers below them to get the vaccine that are betraying those soldiers as well. And they're doing it solely to protect their career. That's what I'm calling Beba Syndrome 2.0 is they, they're, and it's, it's awful because they're they're not just betraying someone else. Dave Hamski: They're betraying themselves all for their career and for, and so, you know, I, I've talked to yeah, for money and for status and I mean, that's, how can you follow someone like that? You know, if, how can you follow someone who's gonna betray themselves like ? I mean, that's a, that's setting off some alarm bells there. Dave Hamski: Like, okay, well if they betray themselves, they'll probably betray me. You know, especially for an institution that's centered [00:42:00] off trust. It is a special, you know, Sam Sigoloff: he was telling me, He wasn't, he didn't have a long tab. There's very few that do, but he went to a unit that was special forces and he said the, the commander when he showed up, he said, look, you can do anything wrong. Sam Sigoloff: You know, like, people do wrong stuff, but if you cheat on your wife, you're outta here. It's like, that seems strange. No, it's, it's absolutely correct because if you can betray the person that you have become one flesh with, then you can betray anybody at that point. There is nothing sacred in your life. Sam Sigoloff: Mm-hmm. . And it makes per perfect sense. Dave Hamski: Yeah. Well, good on that commander for, for having that, you know, and to, to, to say that to soldiers straight up. I mean, the hits the nail on the head. And you know, I, I had some conversations with, with some, some leaders throughout the organization up there in Alaska. Dave Hamski: And like one of the things that, that one of them said, and this, this is a senior ranking. Army officer there. [00:43:00] He said, if I get cancer from this, then so be it. And I just like looked at him and was like, I'm like, all right, say that to your wife. Say that to your daughter. You know, like that's, that's insane that you would, you know, because like, I mean, that, that, that rolls so much into it of like, okay, hey, well, you know, someone's gonna have to take care of you. Dave Hamski: And just all the emotional stuff tangled into it and, you know to, to see that, to see our force just at this point where, you know, people take something out of fear. Like, Hey, I, I need to maintain this job. Like, I really don't want this. Like, and just go ahead and take it. I'm, it, it, it's really saddening to me. Sam Sigoloff: We need men to be men, women to be women, to stand up and do what's right. . And if they don't want to do it, then they shouldn't ask anyone else to do it. [00:44:00] Exactly. They shouldn't do it if they don't want to do it. You should never do what you don't want to do. Exactly. Dave Hamski: Exactly. And if you have something in you that's telling you this is, this is wrong. Dave Hamski: Talk about it. Speak about it. And and yeah, you just, I mean, we all have a moral compass for a reason. So here's Sam Sigoloff: another question that you, you may or may not want to answer, and you may wanna be kind of aloof about it, and that's okay if you do. But what do you think should happen to Commanders that gave this order? Sam Sigoloff: And if you, again, if you don't wanna answer this. Dave Hamski: No, I won't be able to No, no. I got something on this one. They, they need to admit that they're wrong and they, they should be punished. . And so I think, you know, those at very senior levels should receive the, the har the not harsh what the law last for [00:45:00] the, the full, the fullest extent. Dave Hamski: Yeah, exactly. What the law allows for and what's what is just so they should receive. You know, I think what they should receive is the, you know, getting, getting sent out on their way. But at the end of the day, all the way down to the, the platoon leader, they need to be told, Hey, this was wrong and we need to correct it. Dave Hamski: Because when you don't do. When you just ignore it and move on, that sets a precedence for this to happen again. And then even worse, for those who are that in tune with their, their conscience, this is going to eat some people up where they're gonna be like, oh, you know, there's a lot, you [00:46:00] know, there's people in my formation again, who are now sick from this. Dave Hamski: And, you know, I was the one who, who forced them to, to do this. I'm the one who, who was part of the coercion. I'm the one who denied, you know, the religious eque or, or made this made life difficult on them. And so at a minimum, at a minimum, those people, those those leaders need to talk to their formation, say, Hey, I messed up. Dave Hamski: You know? And as you go out to chain command, I, I, you know, heck, I mean, can you really give go Mars and, and the careers of everyone in the Army right now, or in the military, like , it's not realistic, but we need to, we need to write this before it becomes another moral injury for the Army. I don't think that, that, I don't think that, well, the military as a whole, I don't know if, I don't think we [00:47:00] can suffer another moral injury. Dave Hamski: I mean, we've it, it, it'll be too much. So and, and I already know the argument against it. Like that's, you know, ludi, ludicrous, like the army in the military as a whole, d o d would never would never do that because it would be a threat to national security. It would make us look weak, you know? Dave Hamski: It would, it would break trust. I mean, what's. . How, how are you gonna fix this thing? Like, how, how are you gonna build trust already? The, the trust structure is crumbled. I mean, I can't tell how many soldiers I've talked with that are like, man, I'm just getting out. Like I'm serving. I'm finishing up my contract. Dave Hamski: I'm getting out. No, no way am I going to re-up. You know, no way I'm gonna tell one of my friends or family to join right now. You know, we need leaders to step up and be exactly what they're supposed to be and say we messed up and we take [00:48:00] responsibility. You know, and I'll add to that, I don't know, did you see that video of the midshipman at the Naval Academy where they're talking about the honor code and living an honorable life and he starts asking a question to the the commandant. Dave Hamski: Okay, so yeah, there's, there's this video of this midshipman who they're in an auditorium at the Naval Academy and it's all 4,000 midshipmen. And so what midshipman and cadets go through is professional military ethics education. PME squared is what they call for short. And like every month, all the cadets in midshipman, you know, at the respective academies had to like, do either in small groups or large groups talk about the honor code and talk about honorable living. Dave Hamski: And and it's so sicking to hear and talk about like things in order to prepare them to be leaders. Yeah. [00:49:00] And so this so sickening Sam Sigoloff: to hear these people talk about this stuff when it's like, But you're not doing it. Dave Hamski: Exactly. So this midshipman, you know, stands up, introduces himself and starts asking a question to the commandant of Midshipman about honorable living. Dave Hamski: And he mentions he is like, as a midshipman with a religious accommodation request in how can we define honorable living? And even before he can finish the question, like, we don't know what his question was, but we know it has something to do with, with refusing the vaccine and having religious accommodation request. Dave Hamski: And the commandant interrupts him. And, and the comical part of it is the commandant's. Like, I'm not interrupting you , but he clearly is. He goes, he's like, I'm not interrupting you, but. , this is a conversation. This is more of a one to four conversation, not a one to 4,000 because [00:50:00] all 4,000 midshipmen are inside this auditorium. Dave Hamski: Having this discussion about honorable living, and I'm like what coward is on that commandants part? You just missed a golden opportunity to really develop those midshipmen. And because they are going to need to talk about this, they're going to need to, to face this when they take command of, you know, whatever group of sailors or marines that they're gonna be in charge of here in the short future, because this is isn't going away. Dave Hamski: And so, I mean, you know, I'll do a. Yeah, exactly how to deal with it because this is, this is on people's minds and, and people's lives are impacted by this. And so I don't know if that mid-shift, that's Sam Sigoloff: how they were taught just in that moment right there, that that became the standard. Dave Hamski: Exactly. Exactly. Dave Hamski: Exactly. That's, [00:51:00] and, and that, that sits with people. And so, I dunno, I'll do shout out to that midshipman, good job on you. And if you ever want to talk about honorable living as it you know coincides with what we're facing right now. You can hit me up, but go Army Beat . Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. But if you're out there Mitch and give me an email to, to, I'd like to talk to you. Sam Sigoloff: It's after hours@seventeenninetyone.com. After hours@seventeenninetyone.com, I'd love to talk to you. There was a similar story at Fort Benning where there was a captain who they, they had an auditorium, I don't know if you've heard this story. There was an auditorium. Yeah. And this guy's like Yeah, exactly. Sam Sigoloff: He's, he's a, he's a friend of mine and I'm not gonna say his name cuz that he wants it out there again. But as a, as a field grade officer in an auditorium of everyone receiving a gomar or a general order of memo of rep memorandum of record, sorry. General order general officer memorandum of record, that's what it's gomar. Sam Sigoloff: And they're talking about the shot and they're saying [00:52:00] things that are clearly not true. And this, this officer stands up and said, you're lying. That doesn't exist. And they escorted him out and then later arrested him and yeah, it wasn't good. , but those are the leaders we need. Those are true leaders who will stand up against, you know, the, and go against the grain. Sam Sigoloff: That's personal courage. I spoke with Pete Dr. Pete Chambers a while back, and he said that personal courage is often more difficult Oh, yeah. Than physical courage. Cause like yeah, everyone's gonna do the same thing. When someone's shooting at you, you're gonna make himself shooting at you. But when you're going against the grain, going against the leadership and you can lose everything, Dave Hamski: that's, and that's what we need to be teaching, teaching these, these young leaders and reteaching our current leaders. Dave Hamski: Because we're coming into a time, we're already here, we've already arrived into a time where we're gonna be challenged more morally and ethically than ever. You know, the, we'll still be challenged physically, but that's, that's the easy part. [00:53:00] You know, it's too easy to, to push yourself through physically. Dave Hamski: But it's the moral and ethical dilemmas that you're gonna face that are gonna keep piling up here. So gotta prepare, prepare 'em now for it. Sam Sigoloff: Exactly. Okay. And last question for you. Looking back, what would you have done different? Dave Hamski: I wouldn't have done anything differently because I'm able to go to bed at night and rest and sleep well. Dave Hamski: You know, I, I miss, I absolutely miss leading paratroopers because I love them. I, I love it, I love the job. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't do anything differently. I mean, you know, I don't think a, a request for a court martial would've been granted in my case. But. . You know, I think, I think it was, it was worth it. Dave Hamski: It was definitely worth it to me. And I've had multiple soldiers reach out and just tell me thank you. Or, you know, I have some that reach out and ask for [00:54:00] advice and, you know, mentorship and everything. And, you know, those, those relationships wouldn't have happened if, if I hadn't taken the stand that I took. Dave Hamski: And also like just this community of people who are making, making the force better. Like, I wholeheartedly believe that our efforts will, will get us back on track. You know, I don't want anyone who's in right now to be like, you know, all we're the worst. Like, and, and just stop believing like. And, and not having any hope. Dave Hamski: You know, y'all are in there. Do your job, do it well. But, you know, have, have courage and, you know, hopefully they can learn something from, from us and, and the rest who, who are going out there and going out on a limb. That hey, like you have it in you, you, you can do it. [00:55:00] So, but no, I want, Sam Sigoloff: and that's one thing I wanna Good, that's one thing I wanna say too is like, there is forgiveness. Sam Sigoloff: Mm-hmm. , right? We want justice cuz God is a just God, he's also a merciful God. But you can't have the mercy of justice, at least the conviction and, and the stand trial and the conviction. But there is forgiveness. There is mercy, but at first you must. Go through the process of admitting and acknowledging that something Dave Hamski: happened. Dave Hamski: And, and I would, I would come back and I would serve again, and I would serve with the same people. I, I would, you know, and I would do that. But those, those things had to happen first is, you know, we need to have justice. And and for some people, based on the level of responsibility that they, that they take on, when they give that order, they're going to have, they bear more of the [00:56:00] brunt, they bear more of what's gonna come down and what should happen. Dave Hamski: So there's people who they should no longer be, you know, commanding. They should no longer be in the army. Their, their records should be marked permanently for it. And then there's others who, you know, they don't bear as much responsibility for it, and they should have to, you know, Recognize and, and talk about, hey, this is, this is what went wrong with this. Dave Hamski: So, yeah. But there's, there's always forgiveness. But for forgiveness is not, it doesn't come without there being justice first. Dave Hamski: Well, Sam Sigoloff: you're, you're a stronger man than, than I, cuz I will never work for these people again. As soon as I take that uniform on off, I will never go back on. Well, because I, I don't ever wanna get back in the position. I will defend this country, don't get me wrong, but I won't Dave Hamski: be doing it uniform. Well, I don't know, maybe, maybe it'll just [00:57:00] be like another a short, short step, you know, like, alright, hey, we get rid of you again. Dave Hamski: Yeah. , so you, me and the five other people. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. But also, like, if I can just do a shout out to any other commanders who, who, who are in the same position You know, I, I would love to connect and just hear about your experiences. I don't know how many there were of us, but I, I, I thought I saw an Army Times article, which, oh man, army Times, you can trust everything that comes out of that. Dave Hamski: It said something to the degree of there's six, six commanders who are relieved. So I don't know if that was like battalion commanders or if they're counting company commanders as well, but it, it would be great to, to hear their story too. Sam Sigoloff: And if you're one of those commanders and you, you want to use this platform email me same email after hours@seventeenninetyone.com after [00:58:00] hours@seventeenninetyone.com. Sam Sigoloff: That's the year the bill of right is ratified. Well, sir, thank you for coming on. I truly appreciate it. Where can people find you and find what you're doing now that you get to live with a long beard and get to be outside a lot and, you know, have the, the proverbial Dave Hamski: day? Yeah. Well, first of all, thank you, Sam, for, for what you're doing and, and how you lead and protect our God-given rights. Dave Hamski: And then, and then people's health. People's health. It's, it's personal and, and it's important. And we need those who are truly gifted and, and know about health. We need those at the forefront to help, help this nation get healthier. So thank you for what you're doing. But yeah, I'm up here in Northwest Montana, specifically in Kalispell, Montana. Dave Hamski: And I'm a fishing guide in the summertime on Flathead Lake. So if you wanna catch some, some massive lake trout. Come out with come out with us with fly Head Lake charters. And then you know in the off season I help [00:59:00] people maintain and improve their homes. I got a little handyman business and I just start up. Dave Hamski: So, you know if you're transitioning outta the Army, just it's tough. A transition of any branch of service is tough, but like you can do it. So set a goal and go after it, make it happen. If you need to reach out, I'm on LinkedIn just as Dave Hams and and then yeah, so that'd be great. Sam Sigoloff: And that's how we met was through Dave Hamski: LinkedIn. Yep. Sam Sigoloff: Well, sir, I, I want to thank you again and it's, it's relationships like, like this, you and I now have, I've been able to have these types of interactions and relationships with people all over. The United States. And that is one of the good things that's come out of this, is I've been able to meet some of the salt of the earth people, people that will get thrown into that furnace to be refined, not knowing they'll come out alive, but like Sha Acne shack and Ada come out and are better for it. Sam Sigoloff: Exactly. [01:00:00] Without even the smell of smoke Dave Hamski: on their glass. Exactly. Exactly. And that's what we gotta do. And then, you know iron sharpens iron, so, you know good men need to hang out and develop good men. The same women too, you know, good women. They need to hang out with good women and, and we develop and sharpen each other. Dave Hamski: So that, that's, I, I value this relationship and, and the relationships that come from this. So let's, let's keep on making each other better. Sam Sigoloff: Yes. Well, thank you. And, and I'll be praying for you and your family that, that you have the success and the, and. The joy in your life knowing that you've done the right thing, cuz it, it will pay off in this world and in the next same Dave Hamski: to you. God bless. God bless you.[01:01:00] Sam Sigoloff: Just a reminder for everyone out there in duty, uniform of the day, the full armor of God. Let's all make courage more contagious than fear.

Nurse Kelly: [00:00:00] Welcome to after Hours with Dr. Sigoloff, where he can share ideas and thoughts with you. He gets to the heart of the issue so that you can find the truth. The views and opinions expressed are his and do not represent the US Army, d o d, nor the US government. Dr. Sigoloff was either off duty or unapproved leave and Dr. Nurse Kelly: Sigoloff was not in uniform at the time. Of recording now to Dr. Seg. Sam Sigoloff: Well, thank you for joining me. Again. I wanna thank all the Patreon supporters. I have a pandemic reprimand. Level tier where they donate $17 and 76 cents a month. And I want to thanks Sam and Angela Sheey and Perry. There's been a $10 custom level that's been made by Kevin and by Katie. Sam Sigoloff: I wanna thank you two. And we also have a $5 level where people are donating what they can. $5 a month. It's the refine, not burned , and Joe and PJ are helping with that. I. Truly thank you all for all the help that you've been giving [00:01:00] and everybody who's been giving to our give and go. My wife and I truly appreciate that it's, we have spent over $60,000 in lawyer's fees, so we do appreciate every penny that that comes in and all the prayers that come in. Sam Sigoloff: Today I have a special guest. His name is Sean Red Mansky. He works for Cisco. He's a sales a service sales specialist. And well, I wanted to bring him on to talk because he saw a particular need. , he, he saw a niche a group that wasn't being talked to, that didn't have any sort of, you know, coaching or, or help or just community. Sam Sigoloff: And so he started a podcast and it was the dad conversation podcast. And the whole idea of this, I love this idea, is that he wanted dads that are in business or in some sort of work encouraging other dads with how they. And how they balance that life, you know, life work balance. And I was able to listen to a few of us podcasts and [00:02:00] they're, they're just really, really good. Sam Sigoloff: And I wanted to have you on. So, so Sean, how are things going for you? Sean Radvansky: Oh man, good to be here. And I just wanna say I love your podcast, Sam. I've had the pleasure of listening to probably at least 30 episodes and you've taught me a ton and done, just done great work. Like exposing facts and stories that you wouldn't get anywhere else. And you're a guest have been incredible. Sean Radvansky: You know, tons of military service members, doctors, attorneys, veterans. I'm really honored to be here and invited on. Sam Sigoloff: Thank you so much. Well, I, I really love what you're doing cuz this is what it's about. It's when you see a need and you do it right, like you, you see a problem and you're like, well, you know, I feel like men need more coaching because in society the dad has been the butt of the joke. Sam Sigoloff: You know, the dad's a bumbling idiot. And I think that's one of the things you actually say in your intro is Dad has always been made this bumbling idiot and that. How [00:03:00] dads are supposed to be. Yeah, because we're , we're part of the family that keeps the whole thing. I mean, and, and moms too. They keep the whole family. Sean Radvansky: Totally. Yeah. Better, better together. But yeah, that, that was the, the gist of why I started. It really is like, I love listening to podcasts. I've learned so much from all kinds of people on various topics at a deeper level. And you can't really get that type of quality discussions on any subject without going to podcasts. Sean Radvansky: And so I was also, while, while being an avid podcast listener for years, Feel like I've got a tremendous network of amazing people, many of whom are dads. I know there's awesome people out there, but in movies and tv, like you said, it's just they're always the punchline, like some kind of neanderthal loser and or they're soft and whiny and. Sean Radvansky: You know, effeminate or they're toxic or you know, just some kind of somehow broken. And so I was [00:04:00] like, there's rarely a courageous, hardworking, fatherly role model out there in the media. So As much as, I don't wanna admit it, I think that the TV and movies and pop culture like influences society quite a bit and changes the way we think and act. Sean Radvansky: And so I was like, I want to just spotlight like normal, successful, good, interesting people who also happen to be dads and here like, tell me, tell me. Your career. First off, it's like, like if you were having dinner with somebody at work, you're like, so, you know, you're talking career stuff and like, so tell me a little about your life. Sean Radvansky: Like, where'd you grow up, what'd you do? What are your, you know, what are your hobbies? And then, you know, at the end, kinda tell me a little bit about your approach to being a dad. Like, what, what are some things you think you're doing well? What, what's some lessons you learned from your dad if applicable? Sean Radvansky: And how are you? You know what? Just trying to get a little bit of tips from, from various dads out there. So it's been really cool and one of the, one of the most fun projects I've ever done. [00:05:00] Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. That, that's amazing. So let's, let's get into a bit. So let's pretend like I'm you and you're, you're on your own show. Sam Sigoloff: So tell us a little bit about yourself. Sean Radvansky: Ooh. So I am a father of six. I have an amazing wife, and we are living in the sort of excerpts of Raleigh, North Carolina. And I am a salesperson at Cisco Systems. Also love Brazilian Jujitsu. My, my kids are into wrestling and dance and yeah, just Grateful to be grateful to be alive in this country. Sean Radvansky: And at this time. Sam Sigoloff: And on a personal note, how did you get your kids at what age and how did you get them interested in Brazilian jutia or bj? Sean Radvansky: They started doing it when? When I [00:06:00] started, and then. When we had a wrestling program open up like a, there's like a youth wrestling program that's sort of a club near the, that's at the high school gym on a couple nights a week. We wanted to get them involved. I, I wish I wrestled when I was a kid because all my friends who are wrestlers are just successful, like strong, hard working people, and they always talk about how helpful it was. Sean Radvansky: So I thought, Man, I, I might have missed out, but I want to expose my kids to it. And they, you know, I practic was like, Hey, this is gonna be tough, you know, everybody says it is hard hard workouts and one-on-one battles. But anyway, they, they've really taken to it and, and like it, so all three of my boys are, are into wrestling. Sam Sigoloff: And what ages did you start them or were they, when they started? Sean Radvansky: They started jujitsu about four years ago, so they would be, they would've been like eight, [00:07:00] six, and four. And and then they started wrestling last year, so, yeah. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, I think what's amazing about that is you see so many people who do, they're such high function, high functions, and high producers. Sam Sigoloff: And they, those types of men typically do some sort of physical sport, some sort of competitive sport like Brazilian Juujitsu. I mean, if you look at Juco Willin and a lot of the guests that he have on, he has on, they, they tend to do that, and it's what are some of the principles that you're learning from that? Sam Sigoloff: Because it seems like that particular activity, you know, prepares your mind and your body. If I'm not. . Sean Radvansky: Yeah. Well, I'll give you one example. Yesterday I went in for an MRI and they're like, are you, are you claustrophobic? Or, you know, does it worry you or stress you out? And I'm like, well, , I'm used to having 250 pound man on, on top of me [00:08:00] smashing me, trying to choke me. Sean Radvansky: . So this will be great. I mean, this is, this is chill. But I would say lessons learned is just. The importance of slowing down and breathing everyone, you know anyone who tries jujitsu? Your first few months. The key is just like, Hey, slow down and breathe. You know, when you get into a bad spot or you're trying to go get an advantage, it's like, relax a little bit, keep breathing cuz you're gonna, you know, if you burn yourself out. Sean Radvansky: In a, in a sprint at the beginning of a marathon, you're, you're not gonna do well on the back half. That's a, I think that applies to almost anything. When I'm oftentimes my worst busiest days, I'm, you know, you get into like a manic state of crazy trying to get everything done, and it's like, you know what? Sean Radvansky: Just need to stop and breathe. Do some, you know, mental and emotional exercises here. Reset and prioritize and You can't, sometimes you can't get everything done, but just relaxing has been something I've learned from jujitsu. [00:09:00] Also learned, it's more fun to be the hammer than the nail, that's for sure. Sean Radvansky: The, the more it, you know, the more tools that you pick up in your toolbox and abilities you have, you can, you can relax cuz you have more, like, more pieces of the puzzle to kind of put things together. But it gets really fun. I mean, it's, I don't know, it's Yeah, say those are the highlights for me of it. Sam Sigoloff: And have you noticed a change in your boys, in their their bravery, their courage, their strength, their, their ability to face more difficult subjects than their peers? Not just physically, but maybe even scholastic? Sean Radvansky: Yeah, I think the. Toughening up and being more resilient has been a, a big focus in our family over the last probably three years. And I think that jujitsu and wrestling have played key roles in that, you know, seeing that, hey, this is gonna be hard, you know, we're gonna go and try your [00:10:00] absolute best and you still might lose, but you know, you're, you're tough. Sean Radvansky: You're not a quitter. Let's go. Come on, you got this. How bad do you want it? You know? And like, like we had a Saturday we, we had a jujitsu tournament and I remember my son, he's like doing really well. He's in a, in a bottom position on. Somebody's mounted over him and he's working on escapes and avoiding submission. Sean Radvansky: He's trying to hit his own submissions and I was like, looking at the clock, I'm like, you have 45 seconds. You know, you're down by two points. Now's the time. How bad do you want it? You want to go? And it's like He started pushing and, and kept trying to kick it into another gear. He didn't actually succeed in his goal, but like I was proud of him just cuz I know how exhausting it is. Sean Radvansky: When you're, you've been giving it your best and then the clock is running low, but you just keep trying for a little bit more. So super proud of him to, you know, stand up at the end. [00:11:00] Exhausted about to fall over because he had given it his best. And that's the kind of lessons that you can learn in a variety of applications. Sean Radvansky: But certainly I think jujitsu and wrestling are, are good ways to foster that development. Sam Sigoloff: It's a very physical description of a, of a mental idea, I guess is, is a way to put it. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. It, it shows you physically what you should be doing mentally. Is the discipline you have to have for it. Yeah. I love the idea of it. Sean Radvansky: Yeah, it was, and one other thing that I thought was a cool story tied to Saturday that relates to parenting. So. The boys. I, I was really proud of all three of 'em. Like we, we grapple a lot with just the three of us. They've trained at a couple different places. But this was for all of us, our first competition. Sean Radvansky: And so they're, they're geared [00:12:00] towards like, you know, survive, escape, put on, you know, their own submissions, but they've never. Even paid attention or known what the point system is about and like how that scoring points. So they're, they're more just kind of like freestyle grapplers, I guess you could say. Sean Radvansky: So anyway they're getting behind on points. You know, they won some matches, lost others. And but none of 'em got submitted. I was proud of that. I was like, that's awesome. Good for you. But they, you know, when, when you do lose to somebody, whether it's your first match or you win a couple and then lose, they're, they're devastated. Sean Radvansky: And unfortunately, we picked seats. We found a seat right next to the podium stage, which I wasn't thinking ahead, you know dumb moment. But we just see a constant stream all day of people walking by and the winner from each bracket gets a samurai sword. , which is pretty sweet. Wow. I mean, the kids, all the kids get samurai swords, so they're like, they're all, all week going into [00:13:00] it. Sean Radvansky: They're like, I wanna win. I won that Samurai sword so bad. And so all these kids walking by with Samurai Swords, they're like, you know, I'm on the verge of tears almost. Just seeing like, oh, I wish I had one. And then my, my seven year old goes up, he's like, well, They sell the Samurai Swords, it's only $40. Sean Radvansky: And he is like, and I've got $21. Can, or can you just gimme 19? I'll pay more than half. And I want the Samurai sword. It's gonna be cool. And then you know, like an hour later, his brother's his brother loses and, and he's just devastated cuz again he's really good and he almost won the match. And, and so my seven year old's thinking like, man, we gotta cheer him up, you know, we gotta cheer up James. Sean Radvansky: And so he's. We, let's go get him a sword. We need to buy him a sword. And so I'm glad he wants to help out his brother, but we were like, I was like, all right, let's huddle up guys. All three of 'em, like, listen, swords are cool, but swords are for winners. You know, like if you, if we buy this sword, I hope that it. Sean Radvansky: Is [00:14:00] makes you feel embarrassed that you bought it rather than earned it. And I was like, here's what I'll do. I thought about it for a second. I was like, I'll buy you the sword on the condition that you come back next year and do your absolute best. And if you win, you earn a sword and then you give away the one that we bought. Sean Radvansky: But I hope all year long, this is like a reminder that I tried, I worked hard, but I wasn't, I didn't, I didn't win, didn't earn it. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't, I don't, I'm not a fan of participation trophies. Just showing up and not, not quitting through something that's relatively easy, but like, I wanna reward success. Sean Radvansky: So anyway, we talked about it and they were like, you know what? Good idea. I don't want the samurai sword. I want to come back and earn my own next year. And I was like, hell yes. I was happy that they didn't feel like I was forcing 'em on it. They, they thought about it like, yeah, I want to earn it. I was like, good, good for you. Sean Radvansky: They're they're way, I, I was, I feel like I was a wist when I was their age. And they are, [00:15:00] they're, they're becoming really strong, which I'm proud of and grateful for sports and all the lessons that come with it. . Yeah. I'm seeing just black for you. But, but at least Sam Sigoloff: we can keep talking without having that corruption. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. So you, you were saying, I don't know how, how long you were going on about buying the sword for his brother? For the older brother? Sean Radvansky: Yeah. And yeah, not I just told him I was. Look, swords are for winners. You know, this is, we don't do participation trophies. We have, whenever they get a participation trophy from like a soccer team or, or whatever, it's like we go home and throw 'em away, , because he didn't earn anything. Sean Radvansky: You know, just by showing up and participating in something easy doesn't get you something. So they did get medals. You know, two of the boys got medals for getting on the podium, but not first place. And I was like, samurai swords are for first place, dude. We're not buying it. So I. I'll buy it [00:16:00] for you if, if you come back next year, do your absolute best. Sean Radvansky: And then if you, as long as you win next year, you give away the one that you bought. But I hope that every day when you see this samurai sword, you kind of hate it and you feel embarrassed to have it because you didn't earn it and it, it's a symbol of earning something, you know? So I think that's, anyway amazing. Sam Sigoloff: Maybe I think it's a dad. Sorry. Sean Radvansky: Go. Yeah, I kind of debate. I'm like, maybe I'm too much of a hard ass on these kids. But at the same time I'm like, I just think society in general is like trying to cater to everyone's feelings. And in the moment I felt like tremendous pressure. Like, ah, just get 'em a sword. Sean Radvansky: Like man, they're all beat up and like sad right now. And they're, they're down in the dumps. But I was like, man, they should be like, they, they gave their all, they just tried so hard on this. Tournament like you, it's physically and emotionally exhausting. And like, [00:17:00] I was like tearing up just watching them compete, which doesn't happen often. Sean Radvansky: I've never shed a tear while they were doing jiujitsu, you know, even if they get hurt or something. But like, just the, so proud of them going out there and giving it everything. So it's, it's an emotional day and like you don't, it doesn't go your way. Like of course you're gonna feel tremendous emotion, but don't, don't optimize. Sean Radvansky: Helping their emotions in the moment. Like I'm trying to build a resilient child who grows up to be a strong man and a force for good, and I don't want to short change that future by catering to their needs in this moment. You know? I mean, that's really like parenting, right? You don't give the toddler everything they want because it's not good for them. Sean Radvansky: I Sam Sigoloff: think that that's a great thing that you're doing. It sounds like for the non dads out there, that sounds really harsh. I'm. Yeah, that's, that's for winners son. But, but truly that, that's so good because that's the difference between, I think you and I are similar age [00:18:00] to many kids and, and men just slightly younger than us, is they received participation in trophies and, and I think our age, they were starting to give out participation trophies, but I think when, at least when I was going playing different sports, which I didn't play a lot of sports growing up, but when I got those participation trophies, it's like, yeah, yeah, everybody get. Sam Sigoloff: you know, I think nowadays it's like, Ooh, I got a participation trophy. Look how great this is. And I think that's good that we have dads saying, no winners get that you can be a winner. Two weeks. What Sean Radvansky: did you do? You, you showed up on a Wednesday night for an hour for, for eight or 12 weeks and, and like had a Gatorade break every 10 minutes and barely broke a sweat some nights, like, and you get a trophy. Sean Radvansky: Like, and I'm glad that my, my, my boys are as soon as we explained the absurdity of participation trophies, like they think it's awesome. They love like dunking their participation trophy in the trash can. When we get home, [00:19:00] they, they're like, yeah, this is stupid. You know, like they're, they're becoming molded to be more achievement outcome oriented. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, cuz there's, there's the old saying that second place is first place winners, which sounds harsh and it, and it, it is, but it also gives you something to look forward to, to be like, there's always gonna be someone better. And whoever wins is the one who puts the most work into it. And I think that's one of the most important things in life is teaching your kids. Sam Sigoloff: It doesn't matter how smart you are, it doesn't matter how strong you are, it matters how hard you're willing to work. Yeah. For Sam Sigoloff: sure. Cause I'm sure you had, I'm sure you had people you grew up with that were really smart, maybe smarter than you, but what are they doing in their life? Like there's plenty of kids I went to middle school, high school with that were much smarter than me. They were much more wealthy than I was, but they didn't work as hard as I did. Sam Sigoloff: And that was the defining moment. Sean Radvansky: Sure. And, [00:20:00] and on the flip side, like I can see people where part of me would think, man, that's not necessarily the brightest person I've ever come across, but they are running circles around me and everyone else because they just get after it. And that is like, so admirable. Sam Sigoloff: And especially if, let's say a child has some sort of learning disability, which thank God my children were, were not I guess blessed with dyslexia like I was. , if that's a blessing, but I mean, it is, gives you different outlook on life. Some people go hard one way or the other, you know, they, they give up and they, they just kind of tank on the whole thing. Sam Sigoloff: But what it did for me was it made me work even harder. And I, and I think that was a blessing that God gave me was the dyslexia, cuz it, it made me work 10 times harder than what it seemed like everyone else was doing because, you know, Going as fast as I can and still just barely keeping up with everybody, but that paid off as an adult. Sean Radvansky: Totally. I, you could correct me on this, but I wanna say [00:21:00] sometime in the last year I learned that people with dyslexia are statistically far more likely to either be in prison or become a Fortune 500 ceo. Like it's like five times higher chances than anyone else , to go into either of those. So, like you said, strong inclination one way or the other. Sean Radvansky: Yeah, Sam Sigoloff: but I think that kind of reflects what I was saying. It's like you go hard one way the other way. Yeah. You go hard giving up and just giving up at life, or you go hard at working harder to try and get where you want to be. Sean Radvansky: And I feel like that's the balance right there really of like parenting when. Sean Radvansky: You, you want to help the kids become resilient and o and you develop resiliency by going through challenges and bouncing back. And you want to, you know, create diamonds through pressure, but you don't want to put so much pressure that they crack, you know, before they're a [00:22:00] fully fledged diamond. And so it's like that balance of. Sean Radvansky: Trying to help them get through something hard without having them feel like there's no chance for success and they just want to fall apart and, oh, whoa is me. And so it's like sometimes we go too hard, sometimes not, not hard enough, but it's it's something I'm grateful to have. You know, my wife is my companion and, and sort of team up and share ideas and, and think through like, Hey, eh, that time maybe we over. Sean Radvansky: That time we, we, you know, wasn't, we didn't really get the right outcome. We were looking for wasn't a positive experience in any way or, you know, that time we nailed it. But you know, it's just a balance of constantly trying. But like goal is I want 'em to be resilient. I want them to be able to get through hard things and develop a sense of pride and accomplishment because, The what am I proud of in my life? Sean Radvansky: It's like the hard things I did, you know, it's not the things that were given to me. I'm proud of the, the hard things I got through. Right. [00:23:00] I'd Sam Sigoloff: like to explore a little bit cuz you have, you said you had six children, which is just mind blowing to me. I think that's amazing and I don't know if I could handle that cuz. Sam Sigoloff: My personal experience is when our daughter came out, like the moment sh they, the doctor handed me to her or handed her to me. I guess they're not gonna hand me to my daughter here. Hold, hold over your father? No. Like in my mind, cuz I wanted six kids, but the moment they handed her to me instantly I went, wow, I don't have time. Sam Sigoloff: I don't know what happened in my time, but now I know it's divided twice as much as it was before. And I don't wanna get so much into the balance of life, but I wanna get into dividing or figuring out each child. Cuz some children, they need more pressure. Some children, you know, you, like you said, you'll crack 'em if you put too much pressure. Sam Sigoloff: And having six that I'm sure every single one of 'em needs a different amount of, of pressure just to get that right spot. How, how, how have you balanced that? How have you figured that out? Sean Radvansky: You know, that's, [00:24:00] Ongoing responsibility and, and opportunity for Susan and I to just constantly be trying to figure that out. You know? They're, they are, like you say, they're all, they're very, they're each individuals and have their own needs. Like there's definitely a, a family culture that we have that they all kind of have their own place in, but individual. Sean Radvansky: Some are alike in some ways, but like for sure, they're all their own little person and their own. They have their own little sort of incentive reward systems in their mind and the way that they just go about life and ask questions and want to talk or share this or that. So I. I think Susan and I are one of, one of the things we, we've done well is that we're always trying, trying new things, trying to get better. Sean Radvansky: Sometimes trying means we did just enough to keep everyone alive today,[00:25:00] depending on the day. You know, it's we certainly, I, I don't want to pretend like we are any role models out there by any means. We're, we're we're trying to figure it out and just, you know, take care of 'em and, and pour into 'em as much as we can. Sean Radvansky: But I don't think I have any sage advice necessarily on that topic. Like, Sam Sigoloff: well, I think just, you know, you, how you mentioned that you and your wife work together on this. Cuz there's times where I. Let me rephrase that. There's many times I don't see how I'm acting and I'm sure you, you've had this where you're like, you're too rough or you're too, not physically, but just you're too tough on 'em. Sam Sigoloff: You're too easy on 'em and you can't see it from the outside cuz you're, you're doing it and that's where it's really good to have, you know, a spouse. Have your, have your wife come along and say, Hey, that was, that was a bit much. A hundred percent they have you wrapped around their, their little finger. Sam Sigoloff: You need to, you need to toughen up on 'em just a little bit. Cuz you know, I've certainly had. Sean Radvansky: . Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, that's one thing. I agree [00:26:00] with you 100% because we don't, you know, we all, we have our own view, our own lens of looking at the world, and it's really helpful when one spouse can turn to the other and, and say, here's what I've. Sean Radvansky: Observed and, and you know, from this angle, what do you think? And you're like, you know what? I was, I didn't, I didn't actually see that. And so that happens both directions with us regularly. And you know, one of the things recently is like our, we're a lot more lenient now on our, like toddlers. You know, the two younger girls are. Sean Radvansky: Four and two we're, we're so much more lenient with them than we were with the older kids, because after a while we finally learn like, look, they're just, they're just so little, you know, like you can't expect them to be able to do certain things. But then sometimes we go a little too far where I'm like, look, this little two year old thinks she owns the house and we can't cater to her, to the point where we, we give her everything she wants. Sean Radvansky: You know, we, let's start drawing a line. You know, alright. You're, you're not, you are literally ruining the entire [00:27:00] moment for everyone and you're gonna go sit in your crib for a little bit until you're ready to rejoin society. And you know, sure enough, like 45 seconds later she's like, I'm all better. Sean Radvansky: I'm ready. And like, all sweet. And it's like, okay, cool. Well, you know, as a reminder to me that we kind of got away from the basics, like, you know, letting her go a little too far and you know, ruining every kind of family moment there is. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. One thing that, and, and you and I can talk about this at different time, you know, offline or something, but we noticed a huge difference when we changed our diet. Sam Sigoloff: There was a lot less tantrums, there was a lot less meltdowns, there was significantly less, like there was a market change. And you know, when encourage moms and dads out there listening to this to go listen to my, any episode that has chewing the fat. It talks about diet and you know, it may be mostly directed towards fertility or mostly directed towards this or that, but the principles of it still are important. Sam Sigoloff: [00:28:00] And the outcome is still, you know, you still get strong kids from strong food. That's how I sell it to my kids, is of each strong food. You get strong, you eat weak food, you get weak. Okay, well, I don't want to eat weak food. I wanna be strong, you know? Sean Radvansky: Yeah, we're we're right now incorporating more. Meat into the kids' diets than we have previous. Sean Radvansky: I think they've always got, had like enough from traditional standards, but incorporating more and, and Susan and I have been eating, I'd say primarily, Meat based for the last couple months and definitely feel, feel better and in, in several ways. So we're working on that and I would give credit to you, you know, one, one more of many nuggets picked up from your podcast. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. And if anybody's looking for more information on that, I encourage you to go look at Dr. Ken Barry, board certified family physician. He's on YouTube. [00:29:00] I learned a lot from him. And you know, of course he wasn't my only source, but. Learned from him and then did my own research and, and when you think about it, like what did people eat 10,000 years ago? Sam Sigoloff: We should probably be eating that because that's what kept our ancestors alive to bring us here today. And nowadays there's diabetes, obesity, hypertension, all these problems. Let's go back to what we used to eat. So I'm glad you're seeing improvement. I'm glad you're, you're trying those changes, you know, it's not a huge jump all in for kids. Sam Sigoloff: It's, it's a slowly slow change over time. Yeah. Sam Sigoloff: Growing up, what kind of sports or activities did you do and how did your dad's interactions with you influence you today? Sean Radvansky: I grew up, did a little bit of, I don't know what, where this martial art was from, but it was called tongs. I think that was the only, [00:30:00] you know, school within five miles of our house that was like martial arts. So it was like karate, I think. I don't even know, maybe it was a branch of karate, but that was cool. Sean Radvansky: You know, after doing jujitsu, it's funny, I look at that and it's silly because it's like these like forms and like. You know, technique. If 30 people try to attack you, then you take three steps left, punch, punch, punch, , you know, turn. It's like, it seems absurd now, but at the time I thought I was a little ninja, you know, wearing a GE and a belt and whatever. Sean Radvansky: Did that for, I don't know, a year or two and then played a lot of baseball. I was actually like, Pretty good at baseball for a few years and I wound up getting hit by a pitch, like three pitches in a row and pretty much never recovered from that with my confidence at the plate. So my baseball career came to an end in in early or late elementary school. Sean Radvansky: What, what did you say? Sam Sigoloff: Where did you get hit? Head, chest, Sean Radvansky: arm. I think [00:31:00] I took one to the helmet. And then I don't recall the other two. I'm, I would, I'm guessing leg or side, or, I don't know. But yeah, I, I don't even know how I could possibly get hit three times in a row. That's pretty embarrassing. I bet if Sam Sigoloff: we, I bet if we talked to that guy who threw those pitches, he'd probably say, man, I, I never played again after that. Sean Radvansky: I don't know. . Yeah, that'd be funny. But my dad he coached my little league baseball team one year. But my, my dad actually had to He did not ever have like consistent, stable or high paying employment. He was typically working multiple jobs and The only way to even like, I wouldn't even say get ahead, but just like pay off some of the overdue bills was like take on extra, you know, jobs and just trading hours for a little bit of [00:32:00] dollars. Sean Radvansky: So he was honestly gone like a lot. And I had the opportunity to work with him a few times, like doing little construction jobs like on the weekends. I remember when I was like 12, he's like, Hey, come with me on the job site. You know, we're doing vinyl siding somewhere or, or whatever. And it is like, You know, back then he would be like $20 a day. Sean Radvansky: Just kind of, you know, I'll give you random little things to do and clean up the job site and go hand, hand me stuff, you know, be a gopher. And I remember it being like miserable, you know, in, in the summer heat working on the job site, not eating or drinking. You know, my favorite foods not in the air conditioning. Sean Radvansky: I was like, This sucks. Like I am getting straight A's because I don't want any part of manual labor. You know, like I, I been there and done that and I was like, I know my dad has worked his tail off and routinely does even, you know, in his thirties and forties and and fifties, like, I want. No part of that, I want to be, [00:33:00] you know, I was always a pretty decent test taker and knew like, Hey, I've got a career, and like, go to college and do something. Sean Radvansky: You know, use your, use your mind and, and get ahead. And so I feel, I feel like my dad set an example of like always. Like I, I feel like his thirties and forties probably sucked. Like realistically, I'm in my, you know, mid thirties now, and it's like I'm trying to enjoy and optimize my life and take care of my family and do hobbies like my dad's life. Sean Radvansky: He literally would get done with one job, change clothes and go to another job. And like I didn't see him much. He was always gone. And so like, that's admirable. And, and I wish he had like taken advice from others or networked or tried to get a better job. Cause I think he certainly could have, he had the abilities, but that just wasn't his like style or interest. Sean Radvansky: But he, you know, he made sure we had food and we. You know, he took care of the fam his family by working his tail off at, which I think is a lesson to me. Like I, I knew [00:34:00] from an early age it was like, Hey, we're poor. We're, you know, we're on welfare and other assistance and stuff. I don't wanna live like this. Sean Radvansky: You know? So I feel like he, he, he taught us through an example of how to work and I knew early on like, your, your work matters. Sam Sigoloff: And that's one thing that's really tough about being a dad is to be around and to be in a direct influence means you're not at work being an indirect influence. Cuz my, my dad, he worked hard to, and he, you know, there was many weekends he was off doing side side jobs and stuff and, you know, I want one more time with him, but he also taught me great work ethic. Sam Sigoloff: So it's that balance of, you know what I mean? Sean Radvansky: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard to put in words. I know what you mean. Like, like the, the time that you do get with them, you're sometimes is, is working. Like if you, the best way to spend time with dad, for me, when I was a kid was like, go work with him. You know, cuz he was just working. Sean Radvansky: Or same thing with my uncles, you know, like they're just, [00:35:00] they're just animals, man. I feel like I'm, I'm so weak compared to them in that generation. Like they live to work. And, and you know, Saturday's a work day, just sometimes it's for. Same, same projects you're doing during the week, other times it's it's a different project, but you're, they're working nonstop. Sean Radvansky: But to kind of Sam Sigoloff: balance that too, I think our generation has been like, look, I wanna build my life in a way that I can have my time to do what I want, what I want. You know, for some dads, that's time with their kids. For some dads that's doing whatever they want to do. But I've, I've certainly built my life to where my family is one of the most important. Sam Sigoloff: and you know, like doing stuff after work. If it's not with my family, I don't really wanna be there doing it, you know? Sean Radvansky: Yeah. That and what a blessing that we live in such a prosperous society that many, many millions of, of. Families can work reasonable work hours and [00:36:00] have time to pursue interests and hobbies with your family. Sean Radvansky: You know, that's, that's something that people haven't always had. And so, yeah, it's like that balance of, I, I saw my dad and my uncles working like dogs. And you know, I don't, I'm fortunate that I, I work for a fantastic company. I work a normal work week and I'm done. I'm not even. Usually I'm not stressed about work in the evenings on any kind of regular basis. Sean Radvansky: I'm, I'm unplugged and straight up with the family or, you know, doing jujitsu or whatever. But it's like a balance where my kids see me have it so easy. You know, like I go in my little office, I'm, I'm on phone calls and emailing and you know, talking to customers. They, you know, they don't see me working like I saw my, my dad and my uncles working. Sean Radvansky: So it's like I have to consciously think, how can I teach my kids hard work when we've got [00:37:00] it so, so cushy on, you know, standing on the shoulders of previous generations that have created this prosperity and, and wealth and, and all the benefits and privileges we have living, living on the earth. Sean Radvansky: Right. Sam Sigoloff: Now I heard you mention you know, say, say certain key words that kind of clued me into this. And, and you and I have not talked about this before, so I dunno where this is gonna go. It's interesting. Is there any sort of religion or spiritual aspect to your life that's important to you, that you're trying to make important Sean Radvansky: to your kids? Sean Radvansky: Yeah, totally. We are acting practicing active members of Church of Jesus Christ, of Latter Day Saints. So we are Christian and yeah, that's like a big part of, of our lives. And we encourage the kids to come to church with us and actively participate in, you know, Spiritual conversations. My wife's really good actually on like, just even on the drive to school, you know, she tries to like [00:38:00] find a, a story from the Bible or the Book of Mormon and like teach a principal on the way to, you know, dropping the kids off. Sean Radvansky: Or each night we try to have a. Yeah, conversation and just talk about principles or scriptures and lessons learned and you know, a lot of good videos on YouTube or old talks and, you know, articles to read. So definitely you know, faith in Christ is a big part of our life. Sam Sigoloff: I think that's great. Sam Sigoloff: And just something that we had done we haven't done so much lately, but on YouTube, there's. N this channel called Bible Project and we would watch those in the evenings with the kids and they have a way of showing things. And, and there's this one video in particular where they have these two different trees, the tree of good and evil, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Sam Sigoloff: And there's a good tree and it's, you know, you can clearly see it's a good tree by the light. And when people eat it, they, they become a tree that's [00:39:00] another light giving tree. And then there's this bad tree that has dark light in it. And if they eat from that, they become a dark tree. And it's, it's a really good way that we've been able to, to help teach our kids to understand these ideas. Sam Sigoloff: It, they're hard to explain. And, and like, let's say one, one of my chi, one of my children is doing something that's not so good and I, I can ask them, which tree are you picking from right now? It's that idea of Adam and Eve. You know, they, yeah, they chose from the wrong tree, but we do that every day that that's a constant decision you and I make every single day is what tree am I gonna pick from? Sam Sigoloff: The one that makes things better, the one that makes things. And that kind of puts it in real terms where they, they don't know what that means. And I don't know what that means, what tree am I picking from? But it's a way they can physically see something and see how well I wanna pick from this other tree that makes me a tree of light rather than makes me a tree of darkness. Sean Radvansky: That's a good, a good example. And we're, we're so fortunate that there are. [00:40:00] Content creators who know how to break things down for children. And that's, you know, there's certain channels where that's all they do is cater towards, towards kids and Bible stories and it's like, this is amazing. You know, don't the cost of watching a couple commercials for a few seconds, you get a cool five or 10 minute video that. Sean Radvansky: Perfect for the kids. Like they actually like enjoy it. They look forward to when the new videos come out a couple times a week. It's like, this is, this is cool. . There's a lot of things with society right now where you think, like, it feels like everything's falling apart, but then at the, at the other time, it's like other side of the coin. Sean Radvansky: You have to think like we have it so good. And any, any wishlist from someone who lived in the late 18 hundreds who like, you know, what would you want in your life? Like even person on welfare in the United States. You know, living in poverty had, would have essentially everything on the wishlist of someone from a [00:41:00] hundred or 150 years ago. Sean Radvansky: You know, Sam Sigoloff: we are so truly blessed right now. And even, you know, the poorest among the Americans are still in the top. I think it's 1% of the world. , . Sean Radvansky: That's nuts. Sam Sigoloff: It's, it's just amazing. And how we have to push those blessings out. You know, we don't just keep them and and hoard those blessings, but that's one thing we're working on teaching our kids too, is how can you bless others because we've been blessed so much. Sam Sigoloff: How can we be God's hands and feet to go do his work? Totally. Sean Radvansky: Yeah, that's we need to do that. I mean, can't just, it's gonna be a little bit embarrassing if we talk to God after, after we die. And he's like, so, gave you all those tremendous resources and you lived a very comfortable life with silk slippers and You know, tell me about how you multiplied the blessings on other people, you know, and if we don't have much to share, that's gonna be an embarrassing [00:42:00] conversation. Sean Radvansky: So always trying to figure out how can, how can we help? Sam Sigoloff: Well, I think we're getting close to probably time right now. I mean, I really want to thank you for coming on. Is, is there a last few story or a thing you wanna leave us with about that you, that you've learned from doing this, this podcast with dads to help dads, you know, kinda like those content creators you were talking about earlier with children, but now you're doing it for, for dads. Sam Sigoloff: And I think, again, I think that is a wonderful little niche. Sean Radvansky: Yeah. I think that I learned. Keep trying. You know, there's so many different ways to be dads to be a dad. And I've talked, you know, it's been awesome to go talk to people, dads from all different types of backgrounds and. , I, you know, I haven't heard anyone [00:43:00] share that They're like really disgruntled about the way their dad raised them Sean Radvansky: So it's like a little reassuring for me to hear. Like, I think people generally, they look back on their dad and give them the benefit of the doubt. And you know, I came away with the impression we should. Try our best. Don't beat ourselves up about being imperfect, you know, show love and, and support and, you know, make sure you have a positive relationship with your kids and, and do your best. Sean Radvansky: That's really my, my takeaway. And I, I do wanna say I before I go first of all, thank you for having me on, and I'm honored to be in the presence of amazing people who you've had on your podcast. But I know a lot of, I would guess a lot of your listeners are probably in the military. And so I just wanted to say like, get the word out. Sean Radvansky: I think. I read encourage anyone who's looking to transition back into civilian life to consider going into tech working at a a tech [00:44:00] company. Great. Career opportunities. Again, you can go into operations, finance, marketing, sales, you know, hr, supply chain, like whatever you, whatever you want to go into. Sean Radvansky: The background you have in the military is helpful. It's applicable. There's skill bridge programs, there's recruiters, like almost every major tech company has. Giant teams that focus on recruiting directly from the military. So I think it's one of those things. It's so good, it's such a good opportunity, but a lot of people don't even know that it exists. Sean Radvansky: And so consider that there's the, the earnings and work life. Balance is un unparalleled from anything else I've seen. You know the opportunity to make tremendous income, take care of your family, have time for your family, you know, working a, a 40 hour work week and enjoying enjoying life. Sean Radvansky: So anyway, just wanted to put that out there. I'm, you know, if anyone's interested in Cisco, I can connect you with different [00:45:00] folks recruiters there. But there's certainly, you know, I'd just say look into tech is a great opportunity. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. And if you have any contact information, I can put it in the description below, like an email or something. Sam Sigoloff: If you have an email you wanna put out. Yeah. And thank you. Love to thank you for that. Cuz many of these listeners may be getting outta the military sooner than they anticipated and, and looking for a job that, yeah. Sean Radvansky: That Sam Sigoloff: the life balance they want is that, that's, thank you for that hope. Sean Radvansky: Yeah, there are exemptions you can get in the private sector that you can't get sometimes is what seems like in, in the military right now. Sean Radvansky: So yeah. Sam Sigoloff: Well, thank you Sean. I truly appreciate your time. It's been a wonderful conversation. I hope to talk to you more in the future. Sean Radvansky: Thanks so much, Sam. Great to talk to you. Sam Sigoloff: I wanna give a special shout [00:46:00] out to Shell Pace. Thank you for your monthly support. Just a reminder for everyone out there in duty, uniform of the day, the full armor of God. Let's all make courage more contagious than fear.

Today I talk with Ben Carlisle, Esq. Ben Talks about suing employers that pushed the mandates. https://www.bencarlislelaw.com/ As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

This about a week and a half ago I found I was was erased. They used the term “masked record.” I could not have my flag removed, I have an upcoming promotion board and I could not access my record. I talk with Dr. Lee Vliet, with the Truth For Health Foundation, to further discuss this and other issues I have been experiencing lately. This first aired on terrestrial radio with America Out Loud and the show The Whistleblower report. As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Luke, an interrogator and interrupter, joins me to talk about language and how its been altered to control you and me. We also discuss that traditional education is not longer relevant as the military just taught many service members how to give themselves a very robust education without using the traditional system. Please check out a friend and his custom products. Flag Sign and Tumblers themustardseedshop.net https://www.facebook.com/groups/themustardseedshop/?ref=share As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Alpha Warrior is my guest today. He was in the U.S. Marine Corps with combat experience. He also worked for the police force for 14 years. Then on January 15, 2021 he woke up to his car alarm screaming and pounding at the front door. Then…the FBI tosses in a flash bang. Please listen to this amazing true story. https://thealphawarriorshow.tv https://rumble.com/c/TheAlphaWarriorShow https://givesendgo.com/DefendPatriotLuna TheAlphaWarriorShow@protonmail.com Video of FBI SWAT on Alfredo Luna’s Home Flag Sign and Tumblers themustardseedshop.net https://www.facebook.com/groups/themustardseedshop/?ref=share Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R038gIqvVxo As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

They voted for child sacrifice today. As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Imagine you are trying to do the right thing, but the you will not get the COVID shot as it goes against your deeply held religious beliefs. But you concede and volunteer to get the Flu shot. Everyone knows about your beliefs. The day after the shot you are informed by your chain of command they there was a medical error and you where given the COVID shot instead of the Flu shot. This nightmare is real and I am talking with Davis Younts, Esq., who’s client is living this nightmare. Flag Sign and Tumblers themustardseedshop.net https://www.facebook.com/groups/themustardseedshop/?ref=share As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Praise the LORD!!! I was given back my privileges to practice medicine at Fort Huachuca, AZ. I have been suspend from clinical practice since 13SEP2021. And how I have been vindicated. As long as we stay on the LORDS side then no weapon formed against us will prosper. Please keep an eye out for Tuesday, October 11, 2022. I will be able to share the big breaking news once the documents are public. https://www.poormanspoison.net/ As always please like, share and subscribe. I now have a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing but if you are unable to donate money please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

We have been suffering for over a year for doing our duty to disobey unlawful orders. We have the moral and legal high ground. We have been ridiculed, defamed, and gaslight. But we are on the LORDS side and no weapon formed against us will prosper. As always please like, share and subscribe. I am starting a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing and if you can’t contribute please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Today I’m talking with Ryan Harju. He’s served his country for 21 years. He enlisted and climbed the ranks to E8 then he became a Cheif Warrant Officer 3. He has enough years to retire but was not allowed to retire as a CWO3. He has now gone months without pay. Months without medical benefits for his family. As always please like, share and subscribe. I am starting a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing and if you can’t contribute please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Today I am chewing the fat with Jessalyn Randel. She is a carnivore has as been so for about 2 years. We talk about meat and what to eat, the ways it meat can heal and we round out the conversation with a little philosophy. Jessalyn has a cooking YouTube channel please check it out https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHlFeDkt3w0DXhrItDtS2_g. As always please like, share and subscribe. I am starting a Patreon account (see link below). This is mostly to help with the legal fees. Please consider contributing and if you can’t contribute please give prayers. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Afterhourswithdrsigoloff Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Pandemic Reprimando. There are many us that refuse to bend the knee. This is a quick up date of what happed to me today and the ultimatum I received. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Marcus W. Thornton is the president of Feds 4 Medical Freedom. Marcus joins me to discuss what this organization does to help federal employees and contractors that have devoted their professional lives to service. Please check out their website at https://feds4medfreedom.org. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

LTC (ret) Steve Murray, prior counterintelligence officer, talks with me about being the subject of a threat working group. I was recently emailed and told that I was the subject of a threat working group. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

I am joined by James ‘Jim’ Thorp, MD. Dr. Thorp specializes in Maternal Fetal Medicine (MFM). This is a subspecialty of obstetrics where he is referred all the mothers that have multiple medical issues or are expected to have multiple medical issues. He is a warrior for God and for truth. I am happy to be in the fire with him. Mentioned at 33min. Pfizer 5.3.6 Cumulative Analysis of Post-authorization adverse Event Reports: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ_ng3WYVhnctCYq6Rom07g Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Chad Coppin talks with me about his recent phone call to Pfizer. Chad also submitted a deceleration to Senator Ron Johnson’s office making Chad a whistleblower. Those documents are available on my telegram channel so that you can use them in your defense. Mark Bashaw has also contributed to this issue significantly and his affidavit that was sent to Senator Ron Johnson’s office I also available at my telegram channel. We may hear from Mark Bashaw again soon… truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Telegram: https://t.me/afterhourswithdrsigoloff 
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Todd Callender joins me in part V of the Bioweapon Series. Todd talks about the bait and switch that DOD is doing with Comirnaty. Did you know that if your DNA is changed you could be owned by the company that changed it? That’s what the law says. Todd uses the 13th amendment to fight against slavery in his lawsuit against the mandate. Chlorine dioxide… isn’t that poison? Todd shares how chlorine dioxide cured his staph infection and his... CANCER?! Next week I will have Chad Coppin on to talk about his phone conversation with Pfizer. And we may hear from Mark Bashaw again soon… truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com 
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Katherine Watt, a paralegal, joins me to go over the legal infrastructure that has been insidiously put into place to control us. During the recording we did have some technical difficulties and that is why the video stops. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com 
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Brian Ward joins me again to go over the Strategic Medical Liberty Initiative and how it applies to civilians. There have been many requests to find out what information is relevant to the civilian listeners (government civilians and private sector employees). Brian warns of an impending Legal Armageddon that is on this horizon. Please check Brian's resources at https://www.covidpenalty.com/ truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com 
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I am joined with Dr. Lee Merritt. She was in the navy for 10 years as an orthopedic spinal surgeon. She had had in interest in bioweapons for a long time and as a result she “knows some body that knows somebody” that give her information at the start of the pandemic. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com 
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1LT Mark Bashaw, is the first Army officer that has gone to court marshal and has been convicted for refusing EUA products. Mark would not get a COVID test nor would he wear a mask, he has the legal right to refuse this. The Judge seems to have had his mind made up prior to entering the court room. Despite the cost, Mark stood strong in his convictions. “I work for God.” truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com 
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Chad called me today to share the news. He was on the phone with a Pfizer representative. The Pfizer representative told Chad that the Pfizer shot Lot# FW1331 was manufactured in France. This means the vials that the Coast Guard has are not FDA Approved. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Brian Ward Joins me to tell me about his initiative to help keep service members safe from any mandates for EUA products by using the federal law. Listen to his prospective. Lean more here https://www.covidpenalty.com. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN

Dr Jane Ruby joins me to tell me what she has helped discover about the clots that embalmers are seeing in the bodies of those that took the shot and have now passed away. Please see this website for more information about the structures that Mike Adams, The Health Ranger, has seen inside the clots under microscopy. truthforhealth.org for COVID illness and long haulers syndrome treatment protocols. If you have a vaccine injury (from any vaccine or have any injury that you think may have any relation to any vaccine) please report in their civilian equivalent to VAERS. Email: afterhours@1791.com Instagram: @afterhourswithdrsigoloff Clouthub: @DrSigoloff TruthSocial: @DrSigoloff Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AfterHoursWithDrSigoloff Givesendgo: https://www.givesendgo.com/G37EN