Catherine Austin Fitts and Karel van Wolferen Discuss NWO, Ukraine, NATO, EU and Putin

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When Fitts and van Wolferen speak, their emotions are subjugated to their knowledge, not vice versa.

They began by discussing the historical context of what’s happening today in Ukraine. In 2014 there was a coup d’état in Ukraine in which George Soros played a major role, van Wolferen said. Adding that “Victoria Nuland, who was the Under Secretary of something or other, boasted once that they spent USD$5 billion to get this far, to get this coup, [although] she didn’t call it a coup.” It changed Ukraine from a sovereign country into a country remote controlled by Washington and, in a more direct fashion, controlled by the CIA for more detailed operations, false flags and so on.

In the last two years Europe and the Five Eyes countries, possibly more than the US and in a different way, have suffered from a crime syndicate that has been trying to establish a supranational totalitarian system with the World Economic Forum as an important co-ordinating, organising center, van Wolferen explained, “and it’s going to create, in the long run, a slave society.”

It’s a truly thought provoking and mind opening discussion and a must listen. During the discussion van Wolferen stated:

” [Putin] has taken on Davos. It’s the first challenge to Davos, World Economic Forum, Gates and the lot of them. Because of the sanctions, he has created a new geo-economic system.

“The European Union has turned out to be a monster. Really a terrible thing. The European Union may well be the most dangerous thing for Europe ever, if this thing continues.

“The WHO is going to be the sole authority over all the member states of the UN…This means that Bill Gates has become the world’s great authority over everybody. That is the design. It’s beyond belief.

“Russia is the first challenge to all this. This is the first challenge to Davos. The first real challenge.”

“See, your framework is much more optimistic than mine, so I want to stay with your framework,” Fitts said.

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