Ep. 19 Star Trek "Generations?" TOS vs. TNG vs. DSC/Picard (Star Trek: Discovery vs. Picard, Part 2)

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In the 1990s, it was Kirk vs. Picard. Then, Picard vs. Sisko. Now, entire generations of Star Trek fans are grappling, even arguing over issues of canon and continuity, style and tone, plot and storyline in the current age of Burnham and a far more elderly and frail Picard than the commanding leader of The Next Generation. In PART II of “Discovery vs. Picard,” Moonjumper examines, in a general sense, what may or may not separate whole generations of Star Trek fans: differences between their likes, their dislikes, and their expectations of a half-century old science fiction franchise. Are TOS fans more likely to like DS9 over TNG? Are TNG fans more likely than TOS fans to accept Discovery, but reject “Star Trek: Picard?” Are older fans gatekeepers? Are Discovery fans too dismissive of older fans’ concerns? And can we all get along? Moonjumper, an old school TOS Trekkie, takes a deep dive into the complex issues of “TOS Fans vs. TNG Fans vs. Discovery Fans.”

DON'T MISS PART I OF "DISCOVERY VS. PICARD"
https://youtu.be/btUt1V0XAL0

PART II
TABLE OF CONTENTS:
00:01 Teaser: A Scene from “NCIS,” Regarding Star Trek
00:30 Title Sequence
00:44 Opening Monologue: Star Trek “Generations?” (No, not the movie!)
05:10 “Discovery” from a TOS perspective
07:55 “Discovery” from a TNG perspective
09:07 Too obsessed with canon? It will happen to you!
11:50 TNG, DS9, and ENT all revisited the TOS era without retconning it.
13:15 TOS fans: "So, it’s a retro-future. So what?"
14:37 “Discovery” tries to decanonize TOS, and multiple episodes of TNG, DS9, and ENT.
17:25 Discovery: It’s NOT just a “visual” reboot. It’s story continuity, too!
19:18 Love it or hate it, “Star Trek: Picard” actually does NOT violate canon (mostly).
20:25 “Picard” has more in common with DS9 and TOS, than TNG.
22:05 TNG fans disliked “Discovery,” but they HATED “Picard!”
22:50 “Picard” viewed through a TNG-only lens vs. the rest of Trek
24:00 Is Jean Luc Picard a hypocrite?
26:15 TNG fans are right about Picard’s character being unduly diminished.
26:40 TOS and DS9 fans are more skeptical of the Federation “utopia.”
28:00 The TOS-era Federation was the United States; the Klingons were the Soviets.
28:50 The 2260s Federation faced many of the same social issues as the 1960s United States.
31:22 What did McCoy mean by that??
31:47 TOS, DS9, VOY, and “Picard:” The Federation “utopia” is a myth.
33:50 Some other things “Picard” gets right (and wrong).
24:45 Final Thoughts
35:35 Closing Credits / Works Cited

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