278: Tom MacDonald RETURNS! "Staying Real in a Clown World"

Two years ago, before he was quite the mega superstar he is now, I had the pleasure of chatting with the great Tom MacDonald on episode 135, where we dug into his origin story and his thoughts on my three favorite topics; conspiracies, politics, and religion. At that time, Tom was most known for songs like "Straight White Male", "If I was Black", & "Everybody Hates Me".

Fast forward to today and Tom has independently swept the nation and the world, with his latest mega hits like "Fake Woke", "Dear Slim", "Snowflakes", "Clown World", "America", and my personal latest favorite and cruising jam, "Dummies".

With all the divide and conquer propaganda pouring out of the media as of late, I just had to get the rap king of brutal honesty back on for a chat about the current state of the apocalypse.

Topics Discussed:
* 1/6 and the subsequent censorship
* How COVID-19 has impacted Tom's career
* The new cultural obsession with politics
* Tom's thoughts on libertarianism
* Divide and conquer culture
* The FULL story behind "Dear Slim"
* and much more

In the bonus AfterParty, we dig into Tom's ongoing bouts of depression, the honesty in his songs, the haters, whether or not succession is the answer to avoid civil war, and Tom's starts his libertarian conversion therapy. For access to that and ALL of our weekly bonus shows, join The Downers Club at https://patreon.com/thesystemisdown.

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