Interview with Ezekiel, part 1 of 2

Interview with Ezekiel, part 1 of 2

The Lord bless you all, Heartdwellers.

Forgive me for being a little late on a message, but I had family in town, thank the Lord. It was a very sweet time. And we're back now.

I wanted to share with you an interview with Ezekiel. A second interview, because the first one that we did - he had a real interesting experience with the Lord and a healing. And that healing continued. But he had to contend for it. And so, I wanted him to share some of that with you tonight. Because many of you have had healings and even relationships that you're contending for. I want to encourage you, because he's had some amazing breakthroughs. We've had a LOT of opposition against us. A LOT of opposition. Demonic opposition. But as always, the Lord goes back to "open doors". If you open a door, some things can come back or you can get lying symptoms. So, in order to maintain the gifts that He gives us, we need to adjust our behavior so that we don't open doors again.

So, explain to me what happened. How did it go for you.

EZ: Everything's still holding where it was as far as just the phenomenal healing, and almost like a re-conversion in many different ways: in my heart and mind, my spirit. My body and my soul.

Clare: So, you got a major healing. It had to do with your abdomen, and you were having problems with obstructions, because you have a medical condition, that you had a surgery for. And that was healed - totally. A lot of scar tissue on the intestine that was causing constrictions, the enemy was really taking advantage of that and just really trying to hurt you. In fact, you even saw a ball of poison.

EZ: Like the weirdest thing I ever saw. This little ball starts at my chest and goes down my shirt, down about to my abdomen - you can see it descending just whoomp - my shirt goes flat. And whatever this thing, it's like a bolus or something.

Clare: A bolus of poison - that's a satanic attack.

EZ: This was a physical thing! Not just in the spirit or...

Clare: Yeah - a coven is not fond of us that we are praying for. The Lord, finally, He delivered you of that poison. I mean, that made you really sick. That poison.

EZ: Oh, man. I have never....

Clare: And it was after your healing, right?

EZ: That poison hit me before the big healing.

Clare: Then you had an attack right after that first major healing, and you felt like you were gonna die - and the Lord told you to get up, get out of bed. You know - get up off your pallet and walk. You did and everything lifted and you wrote a new song.

A couple days after that you got attacked again.

EZ: Yeah, within two days, I was just flying like a kite, you know. Well, this..man dead, brought back to life. This man has been in prison, sentenced to death - he gets paroled

and he's free! You know, after so many years. It's phenomenal! But within 48 hours, BAM! I started to get some of the, you know, the old symptoms back. And I'm going, 'oh, man! No, no, no...this is NOT happening, this cannot be happening!' No, I'm not going to HAVE it, nope, won't have it, don't want it. I prayed everything I could pray, I rebuked and bound. Clare prayed for me.

Clare: Well, the good news is that you didn't have any constrictions.

EZ: Right. That's the difference this time.

Clare: You were absolutely healed of those adhesions that were causing the constrictions. Causing everything to back up and causing so much pain.

EZ: Yeah, the healing remained, but there was all this staticy, cluttery stuff that started to happen. Basically to scare me..

Clare: Another attack, yeah.

EZ: ...to make me afraid that I had lost my healing, maybe even make me doubt that I ever had a healing, sometimes.

Clare: Right, right. And it was some kind of an infection that was in your system.

EZ: it would start taking some very familiar patterns. I'd get up feeling good, go in have my time with the Lord, turn on the recording console and get all the equipment ready. And just get started with something really special and, you know, BOOM! This really awful, sickie - almost poison-y feeling, you know?

Clare: Right. And so you had to stop. Like two or three nights in a row, you had to stop recording.

EZ: Very, very frustrating. Very discouraging! And the reason I'm telling you this, is ultimately - they're shooting blanks. These phantoms look really real, they feel real. And I'm just about convinced that maybe half of them, if not all of them are lying symptoms. But whatever they are, remembering that all things are in God's hands and He's GOT this! Like Lana Vawser said, - He's got it. Nothing's gonna escape His hand or His will or the work - and especially for the elect.

I had a title, a working title that kept flashing back to me for a couple of days. And it was basically, "Hills, Valleys and Mountain." You know, I figured I was healed and I was free to go and man that was it: BOOM! And two days later, here comes another valley. But what it's produced, and I'll talk about that a little later, is the kind of mountain I've never experienced in my life.

Clare: It's been four days since you got that second major healing. But we found out that there was an open door. Right?

EZ: Yeah, that's the real important point. It's not how many days you were or weren't, but what was the thing, the key that's holding that in place. Where was the opening? How did they get permission to come back in and buffet me with this stuff? And serious stuff, you know?! I mean,

Clare: Like peritonitis - serious.

EZ: Yeah. peritonitis, were you have little punctures in your intestines and then the toxins begin to go out into your body cavity and at the worst of the worst, just before the Lord just blew it all out - I could feel it. Start going up to my heart, like someone had a hold on your heart, just grabbing and pulling it. But there's almost like a white, hot, fire burning pain that's going on. Now, that's a real allegory, because we're supposed to be like fire-tried gold. "Many will be saved, though not all, and some as by going through the fire."

Clare: We're going through the fire.

EZ: Yeah. And many times, it's about us. It's not that we're the glorious intercessor setting people free or across the globe - it all starts in your heart.

Clare: So, you opened a door. Do you remember what the door ...

EZ: Didn't have a clue until a good friend, who again is a prayer partner, you know - things that you really don't want to hear. They're like, "ow!" Sting-y moments... Brought up Pride and all my readings in Scriptures were about Humility. And I'm goin' "What?? What?? What???" I mean, I'm healed!

Clare: That attitude in itself is indicative of something going on underneath the surface.

EZ: Yes! It was almost like the first time was the beginning of the incisions to open some things up, to bring some things up into the light that could be exposed and healed and scraped off like the dross, you know?

When I was a kid, we used to make duck decoy weights. Decoys were Clorox bottles, and the weights - we'd take my Mama's soup spoon, get a bunch of dirty old tire weights from a gas station. And we'd kind of melt them, and they'd come out looking like sterling silver when they were hot! But there was this thing of grease and yuck and muck that would come up to the top, and we'd skim that off and then scoop the scooper, put a little nail in - and these were our duck decoy weights. But they were really cool looking! We thought we had silver or something.

And I know that I know that I know - that when the Lord turns the heat up, that's when that stuff comes up into the Light. It can be seen. And that dross skimmed off.

Clare: Yeah, the findings. yeah.

EZ: The words that she (Lana) came forth with and that's He's been reinforcing with us for the last couple of weeks, for sure, were Obedience. I mean OBEDIENCE, Obedience, Obedience. Once you know, and He's confirmed that that's Him speaking - not to eat this...it can be little things. A lot of times little things. Don't do this. Take more of that. Go here. Go there. Do it. Once He's confirmed it's Him - He's not waiting for you...Go do it! And it's a loving thing. But He doesn't waste any time. I mean, grass doesn't grow under His feet. He's moving. He's doing things.

Clare: Well, for one - He wants to give us new giftings. But before we could be trusted with those, we have to have overcome some of the things in our nature that...sigh...you know, need purification.

So, once you were convicted about those things, I was convicted, too. Then what?

EZ: Well, the Pride. He began to show me very clearly, we all do it. There's, we've just been conditioned, most of us, most of our lives to kind of think for ourselves. And even when we give it all to the Lord, and we want Him to make our decisions we still have this inbred condition thing that our mind, there's a knee-jerk reaction to... If He says something, something flips in you mind or your will or something, that says, "That's not right! That's kinda hard!" or "There's an easier way, or there's a better way." And the bottom line of that is, many, many, many times it's just Laziness. You know?

Clare: And Pride and Self-will.

EZ: It's like, "I think I know better than God?"

Clare: So, what happened after you confessed that? You went into prayer the next time and we all got together to pray.

EZ: Well, things started to ease up, the physical - it's amazing how once you "get it" you get the point, whatever the symptom is, or whatever He's tapping you with. Little electric fences, or whatever. You get it, the fence gets turned off and you're, "Oh, Okay! Ouch! Yeah - got that!" It's not because He's being mean. It's a loving thing. He knows we need to be corrected strongly enough, and shown and taught strongly enough that we'll remember. It'll become part of our nature, our behavior. Out of love and from love. From the heart.

(end of part one)

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