SAFS Discussion featuring J Peterson, G Saad, J Fiamengo, M Rectenwald, B Kay and C Jaimungal.

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SAFS Panel Discussion featuring Jordan Peterson, Gad Saad, Janice Fiamengo, Barbara Kay, Michael Rectenwald, and the film maker Curt Jaimungal. The discussion is hosted by Pat Kambhampati (McGill).

The premise behind Better Left Unsaid lies in the unconfined analysis of the often violent extremism of today’s Western political landscape. As liberal democracy becomes increasingly challenged in the West, we expose the dangerous tactics employed by the radical-left and far-right, alike. In a world where political polarization frames the way in which we live, a new path forward of unity is needed more than ever before. The value of the film lies in its impact, brevity and digestibility — as we confront the philosophical underpinnings of the radical left and their extreme right counterpart.

Please go to: https://betterleftunsaidfilm.com/ to view the film.

2:25 Panel start
3:33 SAFS introduction
6:10 Guest introductions
11:01 Janice Fiamengo intro
12:46 Barbara Kay intro
14:58 Jordan Peterson intro
19:10 Gad Saad intro
22:47 Michael Rectenwald intro
28:46 Curt Jaimungal intro

32:34 Q to Curt with comments from the panelists. Why are people learning about communism atroscities... from an indie documentary?

44:01 Q to Michael with comments from the panelists. History of SJ, contrasting to traditional ideas of justice...
47:29 Janice comments Curt's film
49:19 Janice's comments on SJ, justice, compassion vs rage
54:15 Gad on SJ from an Eastern view, Sharia law

56:13 Q to Jordan & Gad. To what extent is SJ movement taking the place of religion?
1:01:30 Gad Saad's perspective
1:04:18 Pat's PhySci perspective, Jordan comments; Lev Landau's story

1:09:25 Q to Michael. View on the 'capital I' academic "-isms", impact on the society. Michaels' comments on Postmodernism, "my truth", etc.
1:14:07 Janet comments. Intersectional feminism. The invasion of "-isms" and training hate vs the persuit of knowledge in Universities.
1:20:28 Pat's comments. Racism, genderism.
1:23:00 Gad on cultural relativism, social structuralism and Islamism 'liberating' us from challenges and responsibility..
1:25:09 Barbara on hatred and it's void in good ideas. Jewish and 'Asian' perspectives, anti-racist, anti-semitic rethorics, ignorance and leftist Jews.

1:34:35 Q to Jordan. The idea of existing patriarchy vs privileged status of Gender and Women's studies' in Universities.
1:41:13 Janet comments. Brilliant specialists loosing faith as (hate) activism rises unchallenged in Universities.
1:44:20 Feminism alliances that erase feminists, women? Most feminist idealogs don't care about the treatment of woman, individual woman. Idealogical purity circa 1970.
1:46:58 Jordan comments. Hatred of Western patriarchy. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
1:47:50 SJW identity as a religion. Rather die than admit being wrong and seeing wrongdoing.
1:48:53 Pat comments. Questions of idealogy are blinding us. Reflecting in undergraduate experiences. Speaking truth.

1:50:45 Q to Jordan. Why academics are so succeptable to SJ activism. Working on finding the truth in the lab vs 'speaking truth to power'.

1:53:03 Q to Curt. Why are extreme left ideas better accepted than extreme right, question of branding? Motivation, societal loss of myth, axioms of the West.
1:55:56 Gad Saad comments. Antoligical vs consequenctialist systems, their appropriate application. Never modulate your persuit of truth for some consequential goal.
1:57:50 Where is love, forgivenes, redemption in SJ? To be repented and then never accepted. Panel comments.

1:59:38 Social control in modern anglophone leftist culture. Shaming, calling out, "do better". Gendered elements? Panel comments.
2:01:00 Janet comments. Indirect combat, relational aggression. Forms of discipline.
Explicit female political behaviour, shadow side.

2:03:37 Q Competetiveness between the sexes vs in-group competetiveness, workplace dynamics. Panel comments.
2:05:47 Gad Saad comments. Evolutionary mechanisms' perspective. Inter- vs intra-sexual competetiveness.

2:08:00 Q to Jordan and Gad. Challenges in discussing evolutionary biology, do physical and biological rules apply to humans and how can medicine work when gender and race is a social construct?
2:08:38 Jordan comments. Myth and biological thinking. Deep biology. Evolutionary biology offends. What is our culture predicated on? Why are ideas of individuality, liberty, conscientiousness, etc deemed as Western constructs?
02:12:11 Gad Saad on emotional and cognitive obstacles to evolutionary thinking. Unity of knowledge in behavioural sciences is to be found under the roof of evolutionary thinking.

2:15:28 Final question. Steps to correct the current trajectory of (the valuation of) freedom of speech. Panel comments.

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