Mark Lentine interviews Orrin Heatlie and Paul Creighton

Mark Lentine of TacitImpact.com interviews Orrin Heatlie, head of the Recall Gavin Newsom campaign which has qualified for a ballot initiative. Joining Lentine and Heatlie is Paul Creighton, Mayor of Atwater, California, who successfully defied Newsom's lock down plans and turned in a budget surplus while other cities suffered huge losses...engineering and editing by John Graffio.