2018-03-20 □ There's no Great Multitude pre-Tribulation Rapture!

Korahs Beware https://youtu.be/6VQYQ7lJ1z4 - VIDEO: Korah Fire Judgements against Apostates - Num16, Rev8 Mar 22, 2018
Tale 2 Cities https://youtu.be/oUqkU_RuG8A - VIDEO: Tale of Two Cities - New Jerusalem and Mystery Babylon Mar 1, 2017
Marriage Supper https://youtu.be/MNvzZm03Ck0 - VIDEO: Come to the Marriage Supper, Remnant, Army and Martyrs Jul 27, 2016
Wisdom vs Harlot https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... - PLAYLIST: Wisdom vs Harlot
Great Multitude 7th Trumpet https://youtu.be/bguNMNuzAzQ - VIDEO: Mystery of the 7th Trumpet - Salpizō Mar 23, 2018
C: Thank you Ben Adam, this teaching is very clear. I can find no fault in any of your teachings. I absolutely know you are sent from God. Came out of Babylon decades ago. There's not one organized church that hasn't been contaminated with leven. I know God sent you Leeland. Thank you so much, you have no idea how grateful I am to have finally found the truth I have been searching for my entire life. I pray that our Mighty Father bless and keep you safe.
R: Thank you for the kind words and for following the message. Always try it to see if these things are not so.
Once this little fact (144000) is understood, everything agrees perfectly, all questions answered. They can't agrue only reply "the 144,000 are Jews" but there haven't been 12 tribes in Israel for 2700 years!
C: Great video Leeland. Didn't know about the parallel between Esther and Rev. Keep up the good work!
R: https://youtu.be/5jCt2wQvOs4 - VIDEO: Review of Kings Timeline, Esthers year and calendar - Lamb 1260 Pt12 Jul 1, 2016
Q: Not sure I saw it in one of your videos, did you mention that the 1st horseman of revelation is riding Jesus's horse, not his own horse. Esther 6:8
A: No, that's not Jesus, neither is Mordecai Jesus.
The King is Jesus in Esther. Mordecai is the Manchild.
https://youtu.be/i-70Df5yVc0 - VIDEO: Who are 4 Horses of Apocalypse? Four Spirits of Heavens May 14, 2015
C: No.. the horse is his.
R: Which horse?
Yes, when the King gives Mordecai the white horse these are the white horses of Rev 19:14.
The 1st Seal white horse is Zech 10:3 "Judah, His goodly horse in the battle"
There's a white horse in Zech 1:8 and the King's Horse is described in great detail in Job 39:19-25
Q: According to what you are saying, can you please explain rev 3:10?
A: Explain what? It means what it says…
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
C: I believe in the rapture, I saw it and know the body of Christ will be taken up..God bless you
R: The Bride prepares for the Wedding in Rev 19 "the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints."
When the Bridegroom comes, the virgins with oil, Prepared like Esther with no spots on their garments are the 144,000. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
The Great Multitude, without oil, unprepared for the Bridegroom go through Great Tribulation Rev 7 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a GREAT MULTITUDE, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
The 144,000 are the gathered Elect, Sealed when the Son of Man comes in the Clouds.
The Great Multitude is taken out of the Great Tribulation at the 7th Trumpet.
C: Hello, may I ask if you have read Philippians 3? I imagine you have, and that you know that even if your Torah observance exceeds Paul's, who himself was "blameless" according to the law, your works of the law are still as "dung"
Dung: G4657
1. any refuse, as the excrement of animals, offscourings, rubbish, dregs
A. of things worthless and detestable
Maybe those God mentions from Revelation who had to "wash their robes in the blood of the lamb" are those who have soiled them with the "dung" their own efforts of keeping God's law? Maybe they attempted to earn something that was freely given and received by faith? If it is earned, then man can boast, right? Our flesh loves to earn, it enjoys surpassing others in achievements, in righteousnesses....I know and I have to crucify my flesh daily! Just something to think about.
I have listened to many of Leeland's videos, and I can't recall him teaching on any of the letters in the New Testament, especially not Paul's letters, including Philippians 3. He camps out mostly in the Old Testament, the Gospels and Revelation.
I enjoy his teachings, but I am 100% confident that he does not have all the answers, no one does. I enjoy the searching, but I've learned to be humble and to hold loosely to doctrines pertaining to end times- I believe we will ALL be surprised, even Leeland. God's love and God's mercy endure forever, but the Bible never says that His grace does.
Blessings:)
R: Actually, I love Phil 3 and Col 3.
We should all be struck by the Apostle Pauls words when he said, "That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus."
If he thought the resurrection sure an honor should we not do the same these days?
C: Leeland Jones the 144 thousand are God's witnesses.. Jewish.. during tribulation...Israel with finally be ready after she goes through the 7 years... gentiles we're branched in because Israel rejected Jesus
R: There hasn't been 12 Tribes in Israel for 2700 years.
The 144,000 are Overcomers of the 7 Churches, particularly Philadelphia https://youtu.be/5PV-OS0y6Qw - VIDEO: Who are the 144,000? - Explained in 6 Minutes Dec 31, 2017
When you say "rapture" there are 2 events for 2 groups.
144k/Elect gathered/sealed Mat 24:30, 1 Thes 4, Dan 12:1, Rev7
Multitude- 7th Trumpet - 1 Cor 15:51, 52, Rev 10:7, 11:12, 15
Jer 3:14 makes it clear there's a remnant and then more, "Turn, O backsliding children, saith the Lord; for I am married unto you: and I will take you One of a City, and Two of a Family, and I will bring you to Zion."
Many rapture dreams meet the description of the 7th Trumpet. https://youtu.be/bguNMNuzAzQ - VIDEO: Mystery of the 7th Trumpet - Salpizō Mar 23, 2018
C: Yes the 144000 is the bride, the remnant, she is chosen and sealed for the day of redemption ...I personally have been told to be ready ... exciting times
R: Amen, the Daughter of Zion, Esther, 144000
Ss 4:7 You are all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church(ekklēsia) not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
1 Tim 6:14 That you keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Peter 3:14 seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God
C: We can agree to disagree here Leeland.Please take some time and look at Dr.Ron Rhode's explanation of the rapture.He explains it very well with the Scriptures.God bless you....Maranatha!
R: It's not one event but 2.
144,000 Sealed the Elect gathered
Great Multitude at the 7th Trumpet.
1 Cor 15:51 I show you a mystery
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last (7th) trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound (salpizo), and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The mystery is the 7th Trumpet Rev 10:7
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound (salpizo), the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Q: Leeland Jones We also find "the time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:18, which proves the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order. Instead, it is a series of overlapping visions.
The Second Coming is found at the end of chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as in the Olivet Discourse. We also have those hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if the Lamb is not present at this point in time?
It is also found in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson which includes the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares.
It is also found in Revelation 16:15-16, and chapter 19.
There is only one gathering of the Body of Christ.
A: yes, time of judgement is the white throne https://youtu.be/qXtrTiv0Si0 - VIDEO: The Great White Throne Judgment and the First Resurrection Jun 23, 2017
With the dead judged at the resurrection like you said in Rev11
C: Wrong. Let me explain this to you because you are missing what THE BIBLE SAYS. The saints of Christ will be raptured before The Wrath of God is poured out. The angels waited until the elect were taken out. Revelations. Unfollowing.
R: 144,000 taken before the trumpets, great multitude before the bowls. Gideon's army is being reduced. We're here when you ready to fight the harlot.
The amazing thing is how Esther perfectly parallels the Wedding Supper and Revelation. Haman is "revealed" after Esther is chosen queen and institutes the mark of the beast. The Jews form the Great Army and the Feast of Purim is the 12th Year same as Rev 19 while the bowls are poured out. It's All right there. We are in year 7!
C: Hi Leeland, I just wanted to make a comment about the the "Bride" and the wedding.
In a Jewish wedding the groom never comes for his bride, a SERVANT is sent for her, and she is taken to the "wedding" then to the Fathers house where the bride and the groom stay for 7 days(years). I think at Passover 2018 the "servant" taking the bride could be the Holy Spirit taking the bride to the third heaven before the Throne of God.
SIDE NOTE-(they don't need new bodies because they will not ever be returning to the Earth they will forever be before the Throne of God). That's when I think the seven angels that were before the Throne of God (Rev 1:4) are sent out to the Earth, these are the seven angels that are over seven churches (Rev 5:6) I believe they are sent to the Earth to replace the Holy Spirit that is gone. I believe these seven angels will then be in charge over the church/multitude through the tribulation (7years) until the rapture. :)
I don't believe that the son of man (Jesus) is coming for his bride, I believe the bride will be CARRIED UP... just like Jesus was( Luke 24:51)
I do believe though that the son of man/Jesus will come for His church/His body as He comes in the clouds to gather them for the wedding "feast" as "guests" not a bride, because the wedding has already taken place.
Just some thoughts ... :)
R: Alot of speculation. Let me ask, why are the wise virgins not called the bride? They run to meet the Bridegroom right?
Why is "Bride" only mentioned 3 times in Revelation all at the end of the Book?
Careful with Jewish tradition, they can make up and say anything and are preparing for the wrong Messiah.
Stand before the Son of Man has to do with Rev 6:16, 17 the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Also Nahum 1 the Lord hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm,and the clouds are the dust of his feet. He rebuketh the sea, and maketh it dry,and drieth up all the rivers: The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt,and the earth is burned at his presence,yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Who can stand before his indignation?
The Army in Joel 2:11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?
Also the whole armor Eph 6 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to Stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be Able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to Stand
The Holy Spirit is expressed through the 7 Spirits of God.
C: Leeland Jones, I wanted to try to answer your question on the wise virgins, when you asked why they weren't called The Bride?... I believe they're not called The Bride because they're not the bride.. The Virgins run out to meet the bridegroom yes, like you said but.. a bridegroom can mean either a man who is soon to be married OR a man who has just recently been married...amazing hua!!
It's crazy because the wise and unwise virgins are only mentioned in the Book of Matthew, which I believe is addressing Judah.(like I had commented in a previous comment to you) Luke I believe is to the bride, Mark to the church and Matthew to the Jews.
.. anyways just wanted to respond to your question to me. :)
R: The answer is simple but Very Important.
The stories of Joseph, Song of Solomon, Esther and the 144,000 dealing the Locust give the answer.
There is no Bride until the Wedding Supper is full of guests! That's why "Bride" is mentioned at the end of the book, the Wedding Supper, New Jerusalem and "the Spirit and the Bride say come."
Remember how Joseph longed to reveal himself to his brothers? Would he not do all he could to take care of them in famine?
The Daughter of Zion says,"Return, return, O Shulamite;return, return, that we may look upon thee. What will ye see in the Shulamite? As it were the company of two armies." This during the time of judgment in Ss 5-8
Esther risked her life saying, "if I perish, I perish" when approaching the King on behalf of her kindred.
The 144,000, with the Seal are dealing with the Locust Army in Rev 9:4 fighting the great battle.
They are not always in heaven playing harps.
Q: How does one prepare for war and become a part of the tribe? How do I know if I’m part of the 144,000?
A: There's a playlist for the Great Army and another for the 144,000
C: The circumcision of Joshua's army was on the 10th of Nisan. The spiritual circumcision is this army may coincide.
R: Saw circumcision in Jer 4:4 too
Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
https://youtu.be/6VQYQ7lJ1z4 - VIDEO: Korah Fire Judgements against Apostates - Num16, Rev8 Mar 22, 2018
Q: I'm confused on one last point, who is the bride, evryone says it's the church, whole church is not bride I don't think?
A: Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
9, 10 Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
The word church in Greek is ekklēsia which is used many times in Rev chapters 1 to 3 and 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come
Q: Leeland Jones so new Jerusalem is bride? Does that mean anyone who lives there? For so long I thought elect were bride
A: The elect are the Wall of New Jerusalem which is 144 cubits and 144,000 furlongs.
Q: I don't know personally what's right at this moment but have you considered the interpretation that the 144,000 rapture has already happened, the firstfruits with Jesus (Matthew 27:52-53)?
A: No, because the Lamb has to Open the Seals.
Then during the description of the 6th Seal.
Mat 24:30,31
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great voice of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his ELECT from the FOUR WINDS, from one end of heaven to the other
Which is the same as the 6th Seal here...
Rev 6:17 the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: ​
7:1 I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the FOUR WINDS of the earth. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: WAIT till we have SEALED the SERVANTS of our God in their foreheads.
And this 1 Thes 4:16,17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air
C: Ok interesting thanks, I only say that because of the recent video from scott clarke. But I will continue to pray about these things and search it out. Shalom
R: Once you come to terms with the 144,000, everything agrees perfectly.
I Thes 4 shows the Resurrection which is clearly described in Dan 12
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Which agrees with Michael and the Woman Clothed with the Sun in Rev 12.
Unfortunately he's denying the 144,000 by saying they were babies killed by Herod but they must be 20 years old and alive to be priests.
Q: 1 Thessalonians 4
1) Who are the dead in Christ ?
2) Who was Paul talking to and addressing this message ?
3) Who are those who are alive and remain ?
4) What is the blessed hope ? Is is for the church ? For the born again in Christ ?
1 Thessalonians 4
13I* want you to know* my brethren, that you should not have sorrow for those who are a sleep, as do the rest of mankind who have no hope. 14For if we believe that Yeshua died and arose, in this way also God shall bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Yeshua.* 15But this we say to you by the word of Our Lord, that we, those who remain at the coming of Our Lord, we who have life, shall not overtake those who are asleep; 16Because Our Lord shall descend from Heaven with a command and with the voice of the Archangel and with the trumpet blast of God, and the dead who are in The Messiah shall rise first; 17And then we who remain, who have life, we shall be carried away with them together in clouds to a meeting of Our Lord in the air, and in this way, we shall always be with Our Lord. 18Therefore, comfort one another with these words.
Abundant blessings to you and your to your family ❤️
A: 1 Thes 4:16,17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air
Is the same as this in Mat 24:30,31
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great voice of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his ELECT from the FOUR WINDS, from one end of heaven to the other
Which is the same as this....
Rev 6:17 the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: ​
7:1 I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the FOUR WINDS of the earth. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: WAIT till we have SEALED the SERVANTS of our God in their foreheads.
The Bride prepares for the Wedding in Rev 19 "the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints."
When the Bridegroom comes, the virgins with oil, Prepared like Esther with no spots on their garments are the 144,000. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
The Great Multitude, without oil, unprepared for the Bridegroom go through Great Tribulation Rev 7 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a GREAT MULTITUDE, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
The 144,000 are the gathered Elect, Sealed when the Son of Man comes in the Clouds. The Great Multitude is taken out of the Great Tribulation at the 7th Trumpet.
C: Mr. Jones. No matter how many times you say it, and no matter how strong your cult following is, the bride of Christ and the 144,000 are NOT one and the same sir. It's unfortunate that you misunderstand that, but the bible is clear on this and stands on its on truth. Again, the 144,000 are end time evangelists that come from the tribes of Israel and Judah, EXCEPT for the tribe of Dan. Dan is not mentioned. These tribes will not be raptured. They will be left behind to evangelize to Judah et. al, primarily because Judah has steadfastly stood in their denial that Jesus is Messiah.
R: The 144,000 are Sealed and the Great Multitude go through the Great Tribulation and are changed in the twinkling of an eye at the 7th Trumpet. https://youtu.be/bguNMNuzAzQ - VIDEO: Mystery of the 7th Trumpet - Salpizō Mar 23, 2018
Look at Christians in Africa, the Middle East, everything you describe is happening according to the 5th Seal. There hasn't been 12 tribes in Israel for 2700 years. The Rev 7 tribes of Israel relates to the 12 Gates of New Jerusalem, the Bride and Wife of the Lamb.
You have 3 years and 3 months to assemble in the great army, otherwise face wrath.
1 Thes 4:16,17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air
Is the same as this in Mat 24:30,31
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great voice of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his ELECT from the FOUR WINDS, from one end of heaven to the other
Which is the same as this....
Rev 6:17 the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: ​
7:1 I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the FOUR WINDS of the earth. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: WAIT till we have SEALED the SERVANTS of our God in their foreheads.
C: (Sounds like to me the children that were killed will be coming back!!! Not to mention they are the only ones that qualify for
1. Virgins
2. In mouth no guile
3. Sinless
4. From their own border...Israel
R: The 144,000 are priests, priests are over age 20 and are alive not dead. Jesus said in Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. -So those childrens innocent blood shed by Herod was required at that generation, in 70 ad.
The literal Seal is the redemption of the body, the promise of a glorified body.
Eph 1:13 gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 1:14 our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession,
8:23 ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body
Isa 66:5 Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, "Let the Lord be glorified": but He shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
When you see "the sign of the Son of man in heaven" you and "the tribes of the earth (Dan, Ephraim) will mourn" as you see the Real "Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" not the false idol you made Him to be. You'll see the Ressurrection and "His angels sent with a great voice of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his Elect (heavenly tribes) from the Four Winds (wheels), from one end of heaven to the other." Already in heaven He's "raised us up together (Rev12) seated together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus" - Eph 2:6.
He gathers the Elect from Heaven not the earth because they are already there. But you are earthly minded, according to 1 Cor 15 "earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly." Thus you are apostate earthly tribes of Dan and Ephraim so you will be tried so that those who, "have borne the image of the earthy, shall also bear the image of the heavenly"
All of these verses have already happened. ..
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up (harpazo) unto God, and to his throne.
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man(child) came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him:
Ps 122:4,5 Whither the tribes go up, the (heavenly) tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord. For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
Ezk 44:24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to My judgments: and they shall keep My laws (tôrâ) and My statutes in all My assemblies ( מוֹעֵד mô‘êd) ; and they shall hallow My sabbaths.
Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. But without faith it is impossible to please Him:
C: My friend in Christ, the story of the ten virgins, is a story where half the church goes in the rapture, an for some reason 5 are punished, an must wash there robes clean in the blood of the lamb, by beheading! Not taking the mark of the beast. The reason in part is found in Jeremiah 7:1-16 and is spoken of in John 5:16-17 where the bible says, all is is sin, but there is a sin leading to death. This verse is highly confusing to most, and speaks of Jeremiah 7 where we are told to stand in the gate and tell them who say This is the house of the Lord, this is the house of the Lord, and cause of their sin of abortion, idolatry and the oppressor, I'll not here their prayers for they did not repent, and not hear there intersession for them, an spit them out of God's mouth. Shalom!
R: Five has to do with 5 cubits which is the thickness of the wall of the "inner court" in Ezekiel's Temple. The inside of the wall is 90 cubits in length, outside it's 100 cubits.
90 × 4 walls = 360
100 x 4 walls= 400
360 × 400 = 144,000
In New Jerusalem it's wall is 144 cubits thick.
Therefore the virgins of Mat 25 are the same as the 144,000 virgins of Revelation.
Remember Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed (12 tribes).
The unwise virgins with your doctrine are the Great Multitude that goes through Great Tribulation.
C: Hi There’s just ONE ... Just ONE PROBLEM with the pre-trib rapture “theory”. Jesus said in Jn6:39,40,44,54 KJV that he shall raise ALL that’s A-L-L believers on the LAST DAY - that’s a one day - one time event known as the “first resurrection”, Immediately AFTER the tribulation (Matt24:29-31KJV) at the 7th LAST TRUMP of God (that’s the one mentioned in Matt24:31 1Cor15:51-52 1Thess4:16-17 Rev10:7 KJV). The “mystery of God that had been declared to God’s servants the prophets” mentioned in Rev10:7 is the resurrection (rapture). Martha knew about it (Jn11:24KJV). Jesus confirms Martha’s words (Jn6:39,40,44,54 KJV) Job knew about it (Job19:25-27 KJV) Isaiah knew about it (Isa26:19KJV) Daniel knew about it (Dan12:2 KJV). The resurrection of believers on the last day is the mystery of God that had been declared to God’s servants the prophets, and that shall be finished when the 7th last trump of God begins to sound (Rev1O:7 1Cor15:51-52 1Thess4:16-17 Matt24:29-31KJV).
R: Excellent verses on the resurrection, thanks for sharing:
Jn 6:39 I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
44 and I will raise him up at the last day.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Jn 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Job 19:25-7 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
C: Now THAT'S the sort of Berean (Acts 17:11 KJV) the Lord likes to see - one that goes straight to the reliable KJV Word. Well done, Leeland. As I read your comment, those words of the Lord just sank into my heart and gave me a spirit felling of love and well-being all through. Powerful promises from Jesus! Thank you for your comment.
R: Yes, I really like Job and Martha. Also the "first resurrection" is the "White Throne Judgement": https://youtu.be/qXtrTiv0Si0 - VIDEO: The Great White Throne Judgment and the First Resurrection Jun 23, 2017
More verses there
Q: Rev 17 it's the beast that hates the whore and burns it, right? God gave it in their hearts. Trying to understand if Trump is 'king' of babylon, is he then not part of the beast system as well? Detroying himself? Confusing. If the great multitude fight against mystery Babylon, the the beast is also destroying Babylon? Can you point me to a video that explains this?
A: I'll answer if you do me a favor and read all of Rev 17 And 18 first.
Q: Leeland Jones OK... I think see now. The whore on the waters is the one destroyed by the beast, not the woman riding it, which is Babylon. And chapter 18 refers to the woman which is Babylon. Amazing how I never saw that.... Unless I'm still getting it wrong?
A: You can see how reading it straight through a few chapters gives a big picture glimpse. It's hard to convey that replying to a comment.
Looking at the dragon in 12 and beast in 13 are also helpful.
So the woman/babylon and beast play nice in beginning of 17 but then the beast with 10 kings turns on her. You might say the beast is responsible for the ensuing destruction in 18.
However, the beast is not only the son of perdition but is a "system" as well.
We can see the example of the system "prince" and "king" in Daniel.
Dan 10:13 But the prince (śar שַׂ֣ר) of the kingdom (system) of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes (śar שַׂ֣ר archangels 7), came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
Notice the "kings" of Persia.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea v17 are four kings
So these beasts represent "kings" or a spirit influencing or possessing a person. Dan 4:16 heart changed from man to beast (evil spirit).
But back to the "empire principality" beasts we see a transition in Dan 10:20 now will I return to fight with the prince (śar שַׂ֣ר) of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince (śar שַׂ֣ר) of Grecia shall come.
Thus brining about the end of the Persian Empire and the beginning of Greece.
Furthermore in Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea v17 are four kings of
▪lion = Babylon Dan 7:1
▪leopard = Grecia Dan 11:3 mighty king
▪bear = Persia Dan 11:2 Darius + 3 kings/ribs in mouth
▪terrible = Rome
These are the kingdom's that are components of the rev 13 beast but are the kingdom's that war against one another at Armageddon. So you can see, not everyone gets along with tea and crumpets.
C: The church was not divorced. Israel was divorced, but a remnant will turn to the Lord. The Church is the bride ! How is it that you suggest we suddenly ignore the gospel and epistles ? Our Lord himself discusses the marriage to the Church. St Paul himself discusses the church as a Bride in great detail which does not expire as it speaks of the last days. Love your work but this is a bit confusing.
R: https://youtu.be/MYAvITVirPU - VIDEO: YOU refused the Kings Command! Lamb reigns 1260 days Pt4 Mar 31, 2016
C: Man you were doing so well and then you fell at the last hurdle. Vashti is taken away, rapture. The age of grace is finished so we aren't here. You laid all the ground work and then got it so terribly wrong. Why don't you refer to the early church fathers, look at polycarp who was a disciple of the apostle john of the book of revelation and his student polycarp who, if anyone should know what the book of revelation says its someone who was taught by john, and they both taught the pre tribulation rapture. You are taking a jewish look at the book. The whole bible shows the pre tribulation rapture, enoch was pre flood rapture and then noah was protected through the fllood, daniel was taken out of the way pre furnace but his friensds (israel) were protected through the furnice...vashti was taken away and esther was protected through the tribulatiohn...the whole bible is clear and you've got it so wrong. The gospel now is the gospel of grace, during the tribulation its the everylasting gospel, a different time period so its clearly gone. This is the first and last video I'll watch of you. Shame on you with such biblical knowledge for causing christians to doubt their blessed hope.
R: Vashti is divorced and replaced with Esther, the 144,000.
C: We are told where the 144,000 come from and it's not the church.
R: Wrong it is the church of Philadelphia https://youtu.be/5PV-OS0y6Qw - VIDEO: Who are the 144,000? - Explained in 6 Minutes Dec 31, 2017
The Bride prepares for the Wedding in Rev 19 "the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints."
When the Bridegroom comes, the virgins with oil, Prepared like Esther with no spots on their garments are the 144,000. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
The Great Multitude, without oil, unprepared for the Bridegroom go through Great Tribulation Rev 7 "After this I beheld, and, lo, a GREAT MULTITUDE, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
The 144,000 are the gathered Elect, Sealed when the Son of Man comes in the Clouds.
The Great Multitude is taken out of the Great Tribulation at the 7th Trumpet.
Rev 21:9, 10 Come hither, I will shew thee the BRIDE, the Lamb's WIFE And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem.
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve TRIBES of the children of ISRAEL.
17 And he measured the wall thereof 144 cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is angel.
Ezk 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern. And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house
Hopefully you'll repent of you wicked ways.
https://youtu.be/6VQYQ7lJ1z4 - VIDEO: Korah Fire Judgements against Apostates - Num16, Rev8 Mar 22, 2018
Rev 7 After this I beheld, and, lo, a GREAT MULTITUDE, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
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