Gloria Borger basically says Trump obstructed justice

"So you have a president, you know, talking to his national security team about this. You know, talking to Comey about this, etc. And is there something in this that says, well, the president didn’t know that he was obstructing anything, that he was ignorant of the law in this matter, and therefore we shouldn’t treat it the same way we would treat someone who was knowingly obstructing justice?"