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Exposing the Deep State Coverup | On Background | Ep. 009
Susan Crabtree and Eric Eggers interview IRS whistleblower Joseph Ziegler, who helped expose the Hunter Biden tax case and testified before Congress about political interference and DOJ obstruction. Ziegler recounts early red flags, including blocked interviews, suppressed search warrants, and prosecutors removing references to “political figure one.” He explains how he and supervisor Gary Shapley became whistleblowers after being sidelined from the case and describes the retaliation, personal fallout, and political pressure they endured. Ziegler emphasizes that his actions were nonpartisan, rooted in fairness and accountability, and reveals how extensive evidence contradicted DOJ narratives. He also discusses the “deep state,” whistleblower protections, and ongoing reforms needed within federal agencies.
Chapters
00:00 – Journalism in Crisis
01:29 – Ethics vs Access Journalism
03:10 – Whistleblowers Under Fire
05:22 – Enter Joseph Ziegler
07:13 – Inside the IRS Case
08:49 – DOJ Blocks the Investigation
10:16 – Early Interference Exposed
11:40 – Becoming a Whistleblower
13:12 – Going Public Under Pressure
14:41 – Personal Fallout & Politics
15:37 – Weaponizing Whistleblowers
16:06 – Hunter Biden’s Tax Schemes
17:27 – Why He Spoke Out
19:15 – Deep State Confirmed
20:48 – Media Failures & Integrity
22:09 – Foreign Money & Access
23:37 – Selling Influence Allegations
25:08 – Why Biden Dropped Out
26:22 – Fighting the White House Machine
27:08 – Supporting Future Whistleblowers
28:07 – Can the Deep State Be Fixed?
30:03 – Reforming Whistleblower Protections
31:54 – Advice for Future Whistleblowers
33:24 – How They Told the Story
34:26 – Final Thanks & Close
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