29th October, 2025 - Jural Assembly Meeting

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Rebecca Roberts: Stir.

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Rebecca Roberts: Good evening, everyone. This is the Jural Assembly Meeting on North Carolina. Thank you so much, everyone, for being here tonight.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're gonna continue with the, principles of common law, and, but first, we will begin with, Bivens, October 29th, 2025. Thank you, Tess, I yield.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Bivens vs. Six Unknown Agents, 403 U.S. 388, 1971, the Bivens decision. This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Is forbidden and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the first time?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: This meeting is private. Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the second time?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: This meeting is private. Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: To eliminate all conflict?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: and false allegations. Is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the third time?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Anyone who is here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal United States.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Anyone who is being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the premises or conference call.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Are you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the intelligence community?

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Upon no response to this notice of the Bivens decision, this meeting shall now proceed. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you, Tess.

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Rebecca Roberts: We yield to Lauria. Thank you so much, Lauria.

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loria gathings: Okay, good afternoon, everyone.

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loria gathings: I decree that great things are happening on our assembly here. I decree that Anna is winning for us big time in big ways. I decree that our jural assembly, we're growing and we're getting educated, we're learning the things that we have to do and need to do.

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loria gathings: I decree that we are done with all evil. I decree that we… we are a peaceful, honorable people. And I decree that we are people of love that help one another to do things and to learn things all together in love.

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loria gathings: And so be it.

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Michael Davis - Surry County: so big.

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Rebecca Roberts: Beautiful.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: obey it.

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Rebecca Roberts: So be it. Beautiful, thank you, Loria. Yes, we are here to help each other. That's what we're gonna do today.

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Rebecca Roberts: Please share, wherever you can, your thoughts, ideas, questions are amazing as well.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, as we go through the last four principles today that we started last week.

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Rebecca Roberts: Your voice is so important, and you will see, as we speak about all the principles, it really has to do with

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Rebecca Roberts: For who?

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Rebecca Roberts: And… Who are these principles written for?

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Rebecca Roberts: So, let us, go to my… Page today?

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Rebecca Roberts: And… Can everyone see the screen?

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Nancy Goldstein: Yep.

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Rebecca Roberts: Great So,

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Rebecca Roberts: The first thing I would like to do is be as king, which is sovereign. As a sovereign is as king, so anytime you ask a question, you are sovereign. You are acting in sovereign capacity.

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Rebecca Roberts: So I'm going to begin with, do you, any of you, or we, have capacity and standing?

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Rebecca Roberts: That funny question, isn't it?

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Rebecca Roberts: But, it's important to think about. And the answer…

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Rebecca Roberts: Lies. I'm just gonna, as a little recall for all of us.

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Rebecca Roberts: When we establish that American civilians are not subject to the authorities of military war, and we are owed the law of peace.

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Rebecca Roberts: We show we have capacity and standing when we

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Rebecca Roberts: invoke the law of peace. And there's no one here who doesn't want that, I don't believe, because here we have

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Rebecca Roberts: All Americans.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we all know we can answer that question with yes, are you an American? Are we at war?

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Rebecca Roberts: Would anyone like to answer that question?

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Jeanne Scott: Nope.

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Rebecca Roberts: You don't want to answer, or are you answering now?

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Jeanne Scott: I'm sorry.

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Rebecca Roberts: No, no, it's…

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Jeanne Scott: No, we're not at war.

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Rebecca Roberts: I was just being funny. Okay, and then what flag do we fly?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: The civil flag of peacetime.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, right there. Thank you, Mike. We are not at war.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: And that's, that's land in… that's land jurisdiction, by the way. The military flag is the seed jurisdiction. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Which is the higher jurisdiction.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Obviously, the land. And soil.

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Rebecca Roberts: Right?

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Rebecca Roberts: So, peace reigns!

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Rebecca Roberts: So, do we have standing, and do we have capacity to stand our court, our law?

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, we've established that we're at peace, and we're American, and we are a living sovereign people, and what is stopping us from claiming our standing and invoking our provenance? Provenance, which is exactly that. We have standing.

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Rebecca Roberts: What is standing in our way?

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, in my research here this week, it is education alone that catalyzes the common folk to stand up for truth, liberty, and justice in the face of despotism, persecution, and oppression by tyrants. Anyone here disagree with that statement?

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Rebecca Roberts: All right.

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Rebecca Roberts: it's quiet, so I'm assuming we agree that education, not just alone, I mean, I'm sure there are other things, but that is what can catalyze Americans

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Rebecca Roberts: Because if they don't know, Go ahead, sorry?

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Nancy Goldstein: I said, I agree.

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Rebecca Roberts: Very good.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, if someone's in the waiting room, I have to… I think I have to stop sharing, go and open the waiting room or something, so I didn't want anyone to get lost. Like, last week, someone got in the waiting room for a while, but I can't see it right now. Okay, so…

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Rebecca Roberts: I'm gonna say this statement, and you see it in all caps here, but, Samuel Adams spoke to this. So, are you crouching down and licking the hand that feeds you?

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Rebecca Roberts: Hopefully nobody here is, right? And Samuel Adams has something to say to those of you, not us on this call, I'm assuming, but those who

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Rebecca Roberts: Are not on this call, who kneel before their oppressors.

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Rebecca Roberts: And I…

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Rebecca Roberts: I'll tell you about it when I get to it, but I'm seeing that maybe this is not

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, here it is. If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude, better than animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms.

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Rebecca Roberts: Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you. May your chain set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

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Rebecca Roberts: Strong words.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, do you love wealth better than liberty? Do you love the tranquility of enslavement better than the animating contest of freedom?

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Rebecca Roberts: That's a question, right? I mean, we do come across people who would prefer to be in the tranquility of servitude.

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Rebecca Roberts: And King George was rendered a despot for 27 crimes against the people. And our founders vowed to sacrifice their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor in order to ensure that their descendants would enjoy the benefits of liberty far from the shores of King George's reign.

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Rebecca Roberts: Do we agree that tyrants are committing the same crimes on our soil today?

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Nancy Goldstein: Yes.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Absolutely.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're the modern generation, and just like in 1776, we must, and we are, resisting crimes and betrayal.

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Rebecca Roberts: Will we peacefully restore our American government?

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Rebecca Roberts: That is what we're doing.

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Rebecca Roberts: And so Samuel Adams… Says.

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Rebecca Roberts: You better know what you love!

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Rebecca Roberts: More than anything, In order to bring about your sovereign status.

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Rebecca Roberts: And it would not be wealth more than liberty, and it would not be the tranquility of servitude, more than the contest of freedom.

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Rebecca Roberts: So you don't get freedom.

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Rebecca Roberts: in tranquility. You have to contest it.

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Rebecca Roberts: They knew that.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, that's my little preamble for tonight, to get you all stirred up a little bit, and recommitted, as you are, all of you, in this despotic world of those who wish to be in servitude, and those who wish to contest their freedoms.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, that's a fighting spirit, if you ask me.

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Rebecca Roberts: To contest something.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, last week we spoke about the first four principles. Please go to last week's, October 22nd…

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Rebecca Roberts: Jural Assembly meeting, and you can get those there. And we'll continue with principle number 5 today. So, if we have any quotation marks, you're welcome to read them.

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Rebecca Roberts: All government officials, as trustees of the people, are bound by an oath to uphold and defend the constitutions. That's principle number 5.

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Rebecca Roberts: They are bound by an oath!

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Rebecca Roberts: James Madison, often called the father of the Constitution, highlighted the importance of public accountability and fidelity to the Constitution, stating, a dependence on the people is no doubt the primary control on the government.

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Rebecca Roberts: Who is controlling the government? says James Madison.

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Rebecca Roberts: the people… Did you guys mute yourselves? You can open up your mics.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yes, this is the…

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Rebecca Roberts: This dependence and accountability, this dependence of the government on the people, and the accountability that we require of our public servants are reinforced through the binding nature of the oath.

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Rebecca Roberts: Ensuring that public officials recognize their role as trustees. Who remembers from last week what a trustee is?

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Rebecca Roberts: Are they the beneficiary, or are they liable?

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Rebecca Roberts: You can unmute.

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Rebecca Roberts: Trustees are liable!

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Rebecca Roberts: And they are servants of the people, sworn to uphold constitutional limits.

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Rebecca Roberts: Maxim of Law.

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Rebecca Roberts: Public office is a public trust.

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Rebecca Roberts: That popped away, let's see…

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Rebecca Roberts: This maxim underlines that public officials are trustees of the public interest and must act with their utmost fidelity to their constitutional responsibilities.

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Rebecca Roberts: Sadly, there is no longer a link or a bond between men and an oath.

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Rebecca Roberts: But there must be.

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Rebecca Roberts: This underscores the seriousness and binding nature of an oath, highlighting its unique role in creating an unbreakable bond of trust and accountability.

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Rebecca Roberts: This principle demonstrates that an official's commitment to their oath extends beyond words to their actions and decisions.

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Rebecca Roberts: And so James Madison in the Federalist Papers, he articulated that the oath serves as a safeguard to ensure that government officials operate within constitutional limits. So…

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Rebecca Roberts: The… this principle… The fifth principle is all about oaths, okay? It is to protect

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Rebecca Roberts: The people, and it is to make sure that these government, publicly elected officials Operate within their constitutional limits.

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Rebecca Roberts: And they are bound by their oaths to prevent arbitrary actions and ensure the preservation of the Republic.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, it is binding.

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Rebecca Roberts: It is not just a symbolic gesture, it is a foundational safeguard that ensures that these officials remain accountable to the people.

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Rebecca Roberts: Uphold constitutional principles and protect individual liberties. Alright, that's Principle 5. Any questions about that? Or comments?

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Rebecca Roberts: While I actually look at the waiting room… let me see… If there's anyone in it.

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Rebecca Roberts: How do you do that?

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Rebecca Roberts: You are sharing screen.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay… participants.

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Rebecca Roberts: 10.

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Rebecca Roberts: Nope. Okay.

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Rebecca Roberts: Anyone have a comment? Have you guys ever heard about this, that there are no oaths?

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Rebecca Roberts: We can't poll them on these public officials.

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Rebecca Roberts: Have you ever heard about that?

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Rebecca Roberts: Remember when COVID hit?

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Rebecca Roberts: And we were trying to call bond on, you know, pull the bond, in other words, look at the oaths or the bonds on these government officials that were forcing mandates that were unlawful and illegal.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we were finding there were a lot of public officials that did not have oaths. So, how…

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Rebecca Roberts: If it is a principle of our law, and then we have public servants who don't have oaths.

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Rebecca Roberts: Is there a problem with that?

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Rebecca Roberts: I would say so.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, anyway, no… go ahead, Nancy.

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Nancy Goldstein: Big problem.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, yeah, it's like, okay, sure, I'll… yeah, I'll just, do the job, and not even promise to uphold the constitutional principles or protect individual liberties. I'll just do the job. Sure, you can pay me. And then they have no oath?

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah. Of course things are gonna happen.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: May I?

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Rebecca Roberts: bad things. Go ahead.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: This is Tess.

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: So, my thought at the time was, and I was just brand new, I'm like, well, because learning from Anna, they're not even publicly elected. They're not elected, so it makes sense, they don't make an oath, they're, you know, whatever they are over there, they're, you know, they're, corporate moguls, you know, so…

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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: I wasn't surprised that they didn't find any oats taken, if I'm making myself clear. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, well, in fact, that's a whole other layer, right? There are no oaths, because it's a private election.

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Rebecca Roberts: in a corporation, it doesn't… It's no public service needed.

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Rebecca Roberts: to be in a private election of a U.S. incorporation business, right? So, yeah, the layers, the layers, they… thank you for that, that's right, that's one of the layers of the fraud, of the criminality.

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Rebecca Roberts: Pretending to be in a public… position, and they're not. So…

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Rebecca Roberts: They're committing treason. They're impersonating a public servant and wielding the power that would be given to a public servant.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is… treasonous.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, let's… let's just remember to just try to…

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Rebecca Roberts: Put in your, memory a little bit.

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Rebecca Roberts: We… what we need to have in these principles all need to be part of the foundation that we have. So, I don't want to ramble too much, but I just want to make sure I get to the meat as well. So, principle number 6.

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Dan Diescher: May I reverse?

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Dan.

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Dan Diescher: You know, when you were talking about trustee and beneficiary. We all know they don't play by their own rules, whether they took an oath or not, but if anybody's interested to read under Trust Fraud… Trust Fraud Section 18 USC Section 241 and 242, it is a felony for a police officer to do anything that doesn't benefit you.

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Dan Diescher: Because, hence, you are the beneficiary, and they are guilty under subsection 242, which is a felony by you.

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Rebecca Roberts: Exactly! And we're so grateful to you, Dan, for having these great resources that you just pull up for us.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, we're… our case is building, it is mammoth, it is… it is mammoth, okay? We're just starting, but we're just gonna get the principles so we know how strong we are.

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Rebecca Roberts: Very good. So, principle number 6. When the government acts, Beyond its legitimate powers, Or becomes oppressive.

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Rebecca Roberts: Here's the part. It is the duty of the people to resist reform or abolish it.

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Rebecca Roberts: It is the duty of the people to resist, reform, or abolish illegitimate powers that are oppressive.

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Rebecca Roberts: This principle asserts that when a government exceeds its legitimate powers or becomes oppressive, the people not only have the right, but also the duty to resist, reform, or abolish that government.

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Rebecca Roberts: Governments are established to… pro-tech.

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Rebecca Roberts: The inherent rights of the people. When governments fail in this role or become tyrannical, they lose their legitimacy, and it becomes necessary

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Rebecca Roberts: And it is their duty!

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Rebecca Roberts: for the people to restore constitutional order and justice. So, this one is a principle

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Rebecca Roberts: Of oppression, that it requires the people

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Rebecca Roberts: It requires, it is the duty.

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Rebecca Roberts: to reform… Anything that the government acts on that is oppressive, okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: So, we have a job to do right here, it's the principle number 6.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, we're doing it, so let's not worry about it. Governments are established… oh, I said that part. Okay, in the Declaration. Would anyone here… can anyone see this? I think I have it quite small.

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Rebecca Roberts: Can any… if anyone can see this, where it says in blue, what the declaration states, please go ahead and read that for all of us.

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Nancy Goldstein: The Declaration states that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you. We are instituting a new government. As we speak, join together in minds and hearts here today.

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Rebecca Roberts: liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So, that COVID fiasco, Convid, that hurt a lot of people. That…

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Rebecca Roberts: That definitely destroyed life.

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Rebecca Roberts: And not to mention liberty. And who was happy wearing a dumb mask and standing in long lines just to get groceries, and couldn't… you had to follow the red lines and the… all the crap? And then the stuff they spray, and they put in the water, and the da-da-da-da-da, all the stuff.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, we're gonna get to that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Who will read John Locke in the Second Treatise of Government, where Locke argued that when legislators or rulers attempt to do something, what do they do?

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Rebecca Roberts: Someone chime in, and let me see if I can bring that to the middle. Someone read that for us.

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loria gathings: John Locke's Second Treaties of government. Locke argued that when legislators or rulers attempt to reduce the people to slavery under arbitrary power, they forfeit their authority and put themselves into a state of war with the people.

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loria gathings: Who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.

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loria gathings: This principle is a cornerstone of American governance, affirming that government exists solely to serve and protect the people's rights. When it fails to do so, the people have a moral and natural duty to resist reform.

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loria gathings: Or abolish oppressive institutions, reclaiming their sovereignty and restoring justice.

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loria gathings: I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you so much, Loria. Wow, you said that with such authority.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that is how we have to be.

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Rebecca Roberts: Arbitrary powers have forfeited their authority.

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Rebecca Roberts: By accusing the people of being the enemy, we know where it says that.

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Rebecca Roberts: They… have lost Any power they may have had, And we…

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Rebecca Roberts: Very nice. Okay. So, would anyone…

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Rebecca Roberts: Some of you thinking about, well, okay, we know this, but how are we gonna do it, right?

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Rebecca Roberts: We'll get the manual. We're gonna create it ourselves. Alright, let's go to principle number 7. Who out there would like to read principle number 7? The whole principle there at the top in, just the capital, just that one line, the all bold…

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Rebecca Roberts: The bold up there.

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Rebecca Roberts: At the top.

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Rebecca Roberts: I think it's the topic. That the people are the ultimate arbiters of justice.

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Nancy Goldstein: And they alone can indict and convict, are empowered to hold government accountable at all times.

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Rebecca Roberts: What does that mean?

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Nancy Goldstein: We're the boss.

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Rebecca Roberts: I love it! I love it. Does everyone catch on to that?

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Rebecca Roberts: We are just not the boss, too, though. We are the arbiters of justice. We decide what is law, what is not law, and the people alone

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Rebecca Roberts: Point… Finger and jeans.

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Rebecca Roberts: We almost… And we are the ones who hold government accountable at all times.

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Rebecca Roberts: We don't have to be an ugly boss. We're holding government accountable.

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Rebecca Roberts: Seems fair enough.

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Rebecca Roberts: The Founders' recognition of the inherent sovereignty and authority of the people in matters of justice. The Founders understood that ultimate power does not rest in government officials or their agents, but resides solely with the people.

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Rebecca Roberts: Processes of indictment and conviction must therefore be carried out through direct citizen participation, oversight, and manifesting through…

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Rebecca Roberts: Drum roll, please.

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Rebecca Roberts: Crown and petite, Juries! That is the process of

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Rebecca Roberts: Indictment and conviction. They must be carried out by our participation in the grand and petite juries.

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Rebecca Roberts: Not too hard, we can do that.

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Rebecca Roberts: And the Fifth Amendment says…

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Rebecca Roberts: No person shall be held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a…

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Rebecca Roberts: How many people are in jail right now who did not have a grand jury? Many, many, many.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's not the only thing, though. But it's an unjust law, and the people must undo unjust laws that have imprisoned people.

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Rebecca Roberts: This provision places the power of indictment firmly in the hands of the people, serving as a bulwark against arbitrary government persecution and ensuring accountability.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, only an independent citizen jury comprised of 12 members of the sovereign body, body sovereign, i.e, 12 of the people, could justly determine guilt and innocence. Now we also… that's the petite jury, and then we have the grand, which is the 24.

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Rebecca Roberts: The right to trial by jury as a core… is… sorry. The right to trial by jury as a core element of governance, emphasizing the social compact between the government and the people. This is a principle.

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Rebecca Roberts: Trial by jury is a principle of our government and our law. It affirms that any act of criminal prosecution must involve the will and judgment of the citizenry, must be considered legitimate, and trust.

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Rebecca Roberts: And just. And just, okay? This principle serves as a cornerstone of American liberty. By ensuring that the people alone retain the power to indict and convict, the founders established a vital safe…

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Rebecca Roberts: Guard against tyranny, securing justice, and serving individual lives.

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Rebecca Roberts: Through… The people!

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Rebecca Roberts: citizen-led processes. The grand jury, the trial-by jury, the petite jury, The 12 people

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Rebecca Roberts: Are preserving individual rights and securing justice.

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Rebecca Roberts: So that's why we need to know what justice is.

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Rebecca Roberts: So any encroachment on this power undermines the people's sovereignty.

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Rebecca Roberts: and weakens public trust. Has our sovereignty been… Undermined?

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Rebecca Roberts: A resounding yes.

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Rebecca Roberts: Upholding this principle requires vigilance. I'm gonna ask you guys all a question.

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Rebecca Roberts: In a minute here, so open your mics.

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Rebecca Roberts: It requires vigilance, and to ensure that prosecutorial authority remains true to its original purpose, anchored in the express

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Rebecca Roberts: delegation of power from the people, and serving justice impartially and transparently. We spoke a couple weeks ago about the delegation of power. Delegation can only come from a sovereign.

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Rebecca Roberts: Sovereigns are the only ones on this planet that can delegate power.

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Rebecca Roberts: Is a government such as the u.s.gov incorporated

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Rebecca Roberts: N-O!

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Rebecca Roberts: It is not a sovereign entity, man or woman, it's not.

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Rebecca Roberts: So I'm gonna ask you guys all a question, I hope you opened your mics.

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Rebecca Roberts: Do you have what is required to be vigilant?

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Rebecca Roberts: to ensure that… This principle remains true.

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Rebecca Roberts: to have justice served impartially and transparently. We have to be vigilant. Are you all vigilant?

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loria gathings: Yes.

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Nancy Goldstein: Yes.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yes.

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Jeanne Scott: Maybe?

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Jeanne Scott: Yes.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, it's our duty.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, thank you all for being…

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Rebecca Roberts: We can ensure that justice, if we are in a jury trial, and we have a trial, a… what we are… what we are… the right to have a trial by jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: That everyone on that jury is vigilant, ensuring that justice is served.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, that's Principle 7. This is the last principle of our government.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that is, the court, principle 8, the court can only declare What the law is.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? This is a funny one to think about.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, do you see that word, declare?

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Rebecca Roberts: The judiciary's function is in stating and applying the law as it is plainly written. And that's it.

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Rebecca Roberts: They only get to declare what the law is. Who makes the law? The people.

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Rebecca Roberts: So the judiciary serves the people by being a declarative of the law.

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Rebecca Roberts: Consistent with its original intent, and with the constraints of higher moral and constitutional principles, the judiciary's role is not to reinterpret or modify laws based on

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Rebecca Roberts: Any subjective opinions of a judge who does or doesn't like you, or a magistrate, or doesn't like something.

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Rebecca Roberts: Doesn't get to decide that your star cannot give you…

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Rebecca Roberts: Be objective, and declare the law, and that's it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? They don't know in a powerful position, they don't make the law, the judiciary's role. So, to ensure that the laws adhere to the foundational norms set forth by the divine law, the natural law, or the constitution. Somebody please here, will you read, Thomas Jefferson's words?

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Rebecca Roberts: In the middle of the screen here, just… That one sentence.

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Nancy Goldstein: Can I ask a question first?

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, yeah, go ahead.

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Nancy Goldstein: In a sentence above, it said, divine law, foundational law, and the constitutional law. And now it's saying the divine law, and scroll back down…

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Rebecca Roberts: Natural law.

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Nancy Goldstein: That, yeah, so is fundamental law, is that natural law, then? I don't know what fundamental law is.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yes, it is, it's natural law.

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Nancy Goldstein: Okay, I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, thank you for clarifying that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, one of the mics, would you like to read Thomas Jefferson's words?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Laws for men of ordinary understanding and Understanding, and should…

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Therefore, be constructed by the ordinary rules of common sense.

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Rebecca Roberts: One more time. It's bigger now.

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Rebecca Roberts: If you don't mind, please.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yeah, I'm zooming in with my finger on my phone here. Give me a second. Laws… laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: By the ordinary rules of common sense.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so there's nothing difficult, right? It's ordinary understanding, and it's common sense.

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Rebecca Roberts: Doesn't have to be 8 million rules.

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Rebecca Roberts: When it comes to this, you know, we see our judiciary in our world that really kind of runs rampant and does its own thing, and there's definitely a huge overreach happening right now with these administrative courts, which is what we have in our world right now.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? These are administrative courts. And the overreach…

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Rebecca Roberts: is ignoring the binding nature of affidavits. That's one thing that they do wrong, okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: Dismiss unrefuted affidavits as insufficient evidence, and they violate the maxim, an unrefuted affidavit stands as truth in law.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's a maxim of law. An unrefuted affidavit stands as truth and law. Has anyone here who has sent their testimony in the form of an affidavit

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Rebecca Roberts: to the, Secretary of State on North Carolina. Had that refuted.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Nope.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Not me.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, then it stands as truth in law.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that's the law.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, when administrative courts have tribunals, they bypass jury trials, they deny due process, and they violate the maxim, no man ought to be deprived of his property without due process of law.

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Rebecca Roberts: So these are things we can write down if we ever had to be in some kind of administrative court case.

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Rebecca Roberts: They suppress juries, we all know that.

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Rebecca Roberts: They declare prolonged emergencies without public notice or hearings, i.e. the convid.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then they also seize assets, as we know, from Anna.

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Rebecca Roberts: These are all violations of the administrative courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: So… This one has all to do with… Being a declarative, role.

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Rebecca Roberts: As a judiciary, all the judiciary does must be declare the law.

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Rebecca Roberts: They cannot violate any of the laws, and they cannot re…

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Rebecca Roberts: We don't allow it, and it's our law.

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Rebecca Roberts: That we all stand by. They must follow it, and they cannot act like they're gods.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, judiciary duties are strictly declarative.

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Rebecca Roberts: Courts must adhere strictly to their original meaning of the law, and they must provide remedy for all who are wronged, and they must avoid encroaching on legislative with

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Rebecca Roberts: Sorry, I wrote that wrong.

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Rebecca Roberts: They must avoid encroaching with legislative functions. They cannot encroach, okay? And in America's founding vision, a nation built on divine, natural, and constitutional law that upholds the sanctity of individual rights and limits government authority.

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Rebecca Roberts: These principles affirm that all legitimate power flows from the people.

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Rebecca Roberts: And the government's role is to serve as the protector of the inherent Create her endowed liberties.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is where we come in. What is our responsibility?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Keep the peace and uphold the public law.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thanks, Mike. Very good. And when any branch of government exceeds its boundaries or acts oppressively, what is our job to do?

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Rebecca Roberts: I think it was number 8. No, number 7, I think it was.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Policy.

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Rebecca Roberts: When it acts oppressively, protect the people and abolish it. Both are right.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's our duty to take Any branch of government that exceeds its boundaries, and either put it to sleep.

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Nancy Goldstein: Get rid of it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Get rid of it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Or…

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Nancy Goldstein: reform it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yes, reform it! Tell it what we want! Have we told them what we want yet?

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Rebecca Roberts: We are, with our sheriff notices, we're going to tell that branch of government, because we really want our enforcement on our side, so we're getting the sheriffs on our side, and we're going to tell them, this is what we… who we are.

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Rebecca Roberts: And this is what we want.

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Rebecca Roberts: We want you to modify what you're doing in this respect, clear and delineated. We decide the people

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Rebecca Roberts: And it's not only our duty, but it is our right.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, it's not… oh, I must have read my mind. It's not merely a right of the people, but a duty of the people to take corrective action to safeguard liberty and justice. That is why we are here, educating ourselves and volunteering, all of us here, to build a just and free world where we can be free.

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Rebecca Roberts: Live a happy life, life, liberty, and happiness. All power flows from the people, and the governments serve as protector of the inherent creator-endowed liberties. So, in this sentence right here.

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Rebecca Roberts: some of us here are the government. We've been elected into roles in the government. So we serve as protectors of liberties for the people. So we work

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Rebecca Roberts: for the people. The people are the ones in the highest regard.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, we're all people as well, as some of us here being elected into a government position.

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Rebecca Roberts: Of court clerk, court recorder… Dural Assembly Chair… Outreach to, chair.

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Rebecca Roberts: and whatever other things we were elected to. Oh, State Recording Secretary.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, citizens serve as protectors of their inherent creator. Now, when we look at the government, the US dot, you know, incorporated.

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Rebecca Roberts: They're not a government! They're not our government. They're not a government at all.

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Rebecca Roberts: They don't govern anything.

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Rebecca Roberts: They're just a company making money for the Queen.

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Rebecca Roberts: You're the king now, whatever he is.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?

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loria gathings: I have a question on that, Rebecca. Sort of like how Donald Trump is. Is that the correct reading I'm doing there? That he is not,

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loria gathings: How… how would I say that?

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loria gathings: He is just one of those territorial guys that's acting like he's part of us, but he's not.

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loria gathings: Am I saying that correct?

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Rebecca Roberts: You are! You are! That is right!

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loria gathings: And he's… he's… he's making people… he's not telling the truth about what jurisdiction he's in, or where he's at, or what he's doing.

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loria gathings: I was reading that from Anna's article today, and I said, you know, that's why people are so confused. That's why people are… they know something's wrong.

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loria gathings: But they just can't put it together like how, these different jurisdictions… but as we're learning this, we're getting it, I'm telling you, we're getting it. And we're teaching others. A lot of my friends are saying, look, I want to know a little bit more about what… what's happening, and…

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loria gathings: And they talk from, like, what's happening, live things that's happening today. They want to know, well, who is he, and what's he doing then? Well, why he… so that's why I wanted to ask that, to just… see if I've got that right.

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Rebecca Roberts: You've got that right, my friend.

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loria gathings: Okay, thank you.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, it's a… incorporation

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Rebecca Roberts: Are they public servants in an incorporation, which is for profit, with a board of directors, with a CEO called a president?

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Rebecca Roberts: Are they serving the people, or are they serving the company for the profit?

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Rebecca Roberts: They didn't take oaths.

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Rebecca Roberts: Some of them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Some of them didn't put their hand on a Bible.

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Rebecca Roberts: And if they did take an oath, To what?

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Rebecca Roberts: A corporation?

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Rebecca Roberts: They're pretending is right, and they better, you know, fix it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Or they're gonna be in deep trouble for pretending

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Rebecca Roberts: To be a public servant when they're not.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yep. Ana's article today was right.

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loria gathings: Yeah, and that's why I just can't wait.

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loria gathings: Till they get over here in our courts.

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loria gathings: And we're gonna do the right thing by them. We're gonna…

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loria gathings: We're gonna be honorable and everything, but we're gonna put the laws down so that they'll know exactly what we mean.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's right.

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Rebecca Roberts: And this isn't difficult.

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Rebecca Roberts: Law is not difficult. It's not supposed to be difficult. It's supposed to be really

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Rebecca Roberts: Easy, simple, and common sense.

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Rebecca Roberts: And hey, they're pretending to be something they're not.

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Rebecca Roberts: What happens when you, impersonate a public servant.

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Rebecca Roberts: Anyone know that?

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Rebecca Roberts: The crime…

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Nancy Goldstein: Jeez.

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Nancy Goldstein: Crazy.

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Rebecca Roberts: And how is treason punishable?

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Nancy Goldstein: death.

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Rebecca Roberts: They better really watch it. They're shaking in their little ol' fancy Wall Street shoes right now.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright. I love it. You guys are waking up, I can feel the power rising up in you.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we have a vision, and we are all part of the vision, of a nation built on divine, natural, and law… constitutional law.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is upholding the sanctity of individual rights, and the limits of government authority.

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Rebecca Roberts: To those individual rights are held in inviable, unadulterated, and inexplicably true.

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Rebecca Roberts: Individual rights are inviable unadulterated and inexplicably true. And now when we say government, we're saying Us!

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Rebecca Roberts: Anytime you see government in these principles documents, it's us! We're the government!

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Rebecca Roberts: This is what we have to adhere to, as the government, as an elective position.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: And when you see the u.s.gov incorporated, that's not a government.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's not the government we're talking about here. That's a impersonated government.

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Rebecca Roberts: They're calling themselves something when they're not. When they have private elections, selections, we call them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Those are not public elections.

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Rebecca Roberts: We all know the fiasco that happened with the ballots, and the voter rails, and all this stuff.

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Rebecca Roberts: They don't have to listen to the people. It's private election.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's a board of directors choosing who they want for their president.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's not a… that's not a government we're talking about.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's, a stage? Actors?

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Rebecca Roberts: And they're doing a script. Nothing to do with reality.

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Rebecca Roberts: All right, so here, I have an… can we agree to this? That our commitment is to individual freedom, moral integrity, and just rule.

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Nancy Goldstein: Yes.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yes.

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Rebecca Roberts: Wonderful.

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Rebecca Roberts: This endures through the generations, and this you have just…

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Rebecca Roberts: thought about your commitment to individual freedom, moral integrity, and just rule is a gift to the future generations. It is a legacy, and it is a birthright.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is a noble cause, my friends, and it is what our forefathers bled and suffered for, and we now take up

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Rebecca Roberts: the torch.

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Rebecca Roberts: and shine the light forward into the darkness. As we honor these principles, we preserve the Founders' vision of a government that exists solely by…

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Rebecca Roberts: And for the people uppercase P.

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Rebecca Roberts: Body politic.

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Rebecca Roberts: Rooted in higher truths and dedicated to protecting the unalienable and unalienable rights that are and always will be bestowed by the Creator.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we're… you know, all we're doing here is protecting the rights given to us at birth that the Creator gave us.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that first sound we make, it's a cry.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's our voice, right? Way, when the baby first cries, they're like, oh!

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Rebecca Roberts: And then they say, is it a boy or is it a girl? Right? But first…

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Rebecca Roberts: They want to know.

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Rebecca Roberts: Is he gonna cry?

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Rebecca Roberts: And you wait, and you wait, and then… WHH!

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Rebecca Roberts: The Creator gave us life!

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Rebecca Roberts: And this is all we're doing! We're just protecting that! What little baby can you say?

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Rebecca Roberts: I won't protect that baby.

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Rebecca Roberts: Of course we will! We'll protect every living soul that's born on the land and soil.

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Rebecca Roberts: Including anyone born in the air or on the water. We protect them all.

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Rebecca Roberts: So our unwavering dedication to these ideals that we've studied last week and this week, we are securing the legacy of justice and liberty for all. What our Founding Fathers did and said and wanted, and laid the foundation and framework. Bright, brilliant men got together and made this happen.

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Rebecca Roberts: True. For all of us.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we've been called to be unwavering, and you have all agreed…

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Rebecca Roberts: To have the commitment. Can we stand stoic and immovable in these truths? Sometimes it's difficult. When I had 13 cops standing around me in a grocery store, when I refused to wear a mask, I'm telling you, I was shaking a little bit there, and I went outside when I was done

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Rebecca Roberts: Telling them they're not the authority of me. How dare they corner me in a room they're taking away my rights?

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Rebecca Roberts: And they better let me pass, and open up the circle around me, and stop harassing me.

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Rebecca Roberts: I walked out of that place.

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Rebecca Roberts: I was shaking, I didn't know what was in me, why I was speaking to all these big, hefty policemen and women like that, because I knew I didn't have to wear a mask!

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Rebecca Roberts: It's not my law.

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Rebecca Roberts: I don't agree to that!

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Rebecca Roberts: There were 7 cop cars in the front, blocking The whole entrance.

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Rebecca Roberts: It was scary!

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Rebecca Roberts: But I had to stand stoic, and all of you can stand stoic and immovable in these truths. When you know who you are, and that they have no authority over you.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because the people stand first and under God.

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Rebecca Roberts: We must be confident, so we must educate ourselves, because education is the only way to freedom.

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Rebecca Roberts: So the three conclusions are, public servants are reminded of their solemn oaths.

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Rebecca Roberts: Courts are restricted to their declarative role, and the people must be vigilant to be custodians of the justice.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: Public servants must remember their oaths. That's us, when we take an oath to uphold the liberties

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Rebecca Roberts: And the protections, and the laws.

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Rebecca Roberts: Some of us will do that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Some of us will remain people, and be the juries, and create the laws.

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Rebecca Roberts: And the courts are only declarative. Who creates the laws?

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Rebecca Roberts: The juries, the people, the courts are restricted to just declare the rules.

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Rebecca Roberts: the… the laws, I should s

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