No. 2 House Democrat Doubles Down on Horrid Shutdown Talking Points

Representative Katherine Clark: “I mean, shutdowns are terrible. And, of course, there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously, but it is one of the few leverage times we have. “

Tony Kinnett: “When you say something particularly terrible, you don't need to follow it with a, ‘but…’”

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