Joe Rogan Experience #2399 - Daryl Davis & Jeff Schoep – Podcast Recap

This podcast recap is from a conversation between Daryl Davis, a Black musician and activist known for befriending members of white supremacist groups, and Jeff Schoep, a former national leader of a neo-Nazi organization. Daryl Davis explains his unique approach to combating racism by engaging in dialogue and establishing common ground with white supremacists, leading to over 200 conversions away from hateful ideologies. Jeff Schoep recounts his personal journey into and out of the neo-Nazi movement, detailing how family history, a desire for belonging, and eventual encounters with people like Davis and a Muslim woman initiated his change in perspective. The discussion explores the psychology and recruitment tactics of extremist groups, the difficulties and process of leaving them, and the importance of compassion and non-escalation in fostering genuine change. Both individuals now work together to help others exit these movements and promote a message of pro-humanity over anti-racism.