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22nd October, 2025 - Jural Assembly Meeting
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Rebecca Roberts: Good evening, everyone. This is the Dural Assembly of October 22nd.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we would like to begin with the Bevins.
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Nancy Goldstein: This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner.
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Nancy Goldstein: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that's a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency in the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present?
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Nancy Goldstein: Is there a response to the Bevins decision for the first time?
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Nancy Goldstein: Is there a response to the Bevins decision for the second time?
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Nancy Goldstein: Is there a response to the Bevins decision for the third time?
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Nancy Goldstein: Anyone who is here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal in the United States, anyone who's being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the premises or conference call.
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Nancy Goldstein: If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.
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Nancy Goldstein: Are you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the intelligence community?
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Nancy Goldstein: Upon no response to this notice of the Bevins decision, this meeting shall now proceed.
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Nancy Goldstein: I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you very much, Nancy.
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Rebecca Roberts: Loria, please grace us with a…
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Rebecca Roberts: Connection to the Divine Source God Creator of all. Thank you so much.
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loria gathings: Yes.
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loria gathings: Good afternoon, everyone.
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loria gathings: And today was another beautiful fall day on North Carolina. I love it. And these are the days that…
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loria gathings: they're just perfect for me. I walk out, I just go out and breathe the fresh air, and I'm gonna decree that… this is from, Job 22, 28. It says, we can decree a thing, and it shall be established.
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loria gathings: That means that when you make an authoritative declaration, it will be confirmed, or it would be made real.
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loria gathings: And so we decree that we have the authority here on North Carolina.
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loria gathings: And we decree that we speak, and when we speak it, it comes to pass in our life. And it's supported also by what we say, the light, it comes upon our path, upon our way.
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loria gathings: And so, we just decree that on North Carolina, we do have the authority here, that we will walk in love, peace, harmony.
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loria gathings: With everyone, and the ones that don't know the common law and the good things that we walk in will begin to teach them and show them, mostly by showing them that love is real, and that you can love.
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Emilio Brown: It'd take a little time, but…
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loria gathings: And so, And so we agree that it is done.
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Emilio Brown: Indeed.
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loria gathings: We decree that over North Carolina, no matter what's happening.
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loria gathings: It will come to pass that we will put our courts up, we will do all the things that we need to do.
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loria gathings: And so be it.
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loria gathings: I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: And so be it. Thank you so much, Lauria.
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Rebecca Roberts: such power, truth, and light in your words that we all really appreciate. There's so many gifts that all of us have here that we bring to the table, and we're, all of us, in gratitude.
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Rebecca Roberts: And really, we just really honor each other for the gifts that we share. And I know we all haven't shared all of our gifts yet, but as we grow stronger and more confident, we will begin to do that.
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Rebecca Roberts: This is really all about empowerment and love.
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Rebecca Roberts: Which is natural law. It's how we were created. So we're gonna do a little bit of some learning again tonight. First I start… I'll start… we'll start with the pre-meeting announcement that you've heard already, but for those of…
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Rebecca Roberts: You who are on the recording and have not heard this, this is just a reminder.
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Rebecca Roberts: That, to all North Carolinians watching replays, but not joining our weekly calls, please note that we cannot respond to emails or messages at this time, as we have full-time jobs.
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Rebecca Roberts: Your inquiries often cover topics clarified in our recordings or require participation in our 7.30 meetings, for collective learning.
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Rebecca Roberts: If you do not have your hard records on file, you are not part of the assembly.
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Rebecca Roberts: which is unrelated to your political status. NETHI's Saturday International Business Call is not affiliated with the North Carolina Assembly. If you seek attention during that call, remember it is public and visible to all participants, and that's globally.
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Rebecca Roberts: We are volunteers dedicating our time to this cause while balancing our personal responsibilities. We are not your paid servants. Our goal is to help free everyone from bondage. If you cannot contribute at this time, that is okay, but please do not distract us.
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Rebecca Roberts: We encourage you to join our calls or outreach.
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Rebecca Roberts: Meetings when possible. If you cannot participate until the banks open, that is understandable. Focus on maintaining a positive mindset. Everyone should contribute what they can or step aside. We reject negativity and are committed to protecting all precious life. We leave the door open for your freedom.
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Rebecca Roberts: And there is great love for you here.
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Rebecca Roberts: All right. Well, it's good to see everyone. This is great, and I'm so excited there's so much interest in this, and it's only going to make our assembly stronger as we, move forward.
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Rebecca Roberts: So I'm going to share, that's what I'm trying to do right now.
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Rebecca Roberts: I'm gonna share a document I worked on… Past week…
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Rebecca Roberts: I've been reading a lot. Can you see that? Anyone?
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Nancy Goldstein: Yes.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, great, thank you, Nancy. So I think some of you know about Catherine Austin Fitz. She is…
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Rebecca Roberts: A giant.
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Rebecca Roberts: an American woman, a giant, she has created an amazing financial,
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't know what you would call it, it's a business, and she's really got her finger on the pulse of what's going on in the world right now, and she's had her awakening when she discovered that we were really all lied to with the COVID.
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Rebecca Roberts: hoax.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, anyway, she talks about the great poisoning, and I bring this up because this is a little bit of background for us as we,
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Rebecca Roberts: We discussed last week that what we would like to do is to stop
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Rebecca Roberts: and to write a declaration as a… as an assembly from the General Assembly, that, denies the, power
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Rebecca Roberts: That is assumed by the government to poison our water, air, food, children, And… and more, okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: So, Catherine talks about the great poisoning, and, it's really worth your while listening to. She's a very interesting, woman. And,
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Rebecca Roberts: She says that, also, we are all living inside what's referred to as a seventh generation warfare… fifth generation warfare, which is a technologically advanced warfare strategy.
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Rebecca Roberts: And so, that is a…
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Rebecca Roberts: that's something to… maybe you've done your research and you know what this is, but it's something to consider. Now, I'm going to give you a little bit of background on it, and then go on to some common law. It's not going to be too long, but I really appreciate your attention going through all of this, because it's…
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Rebecca Roberts: It's all for you, because wherever there is… what is the opposite of slavery is
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Rebecca Roberts: knowledge, right? So, if we are… fill ourselves, our minds and hearts, with knowledge of the truth.
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Rebecca Roberts: We step farther and farther away from an enslaved status. And then when those who are enslaved come and are confused and part of this fifth generation warfare, we're here to help.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? So, what are we doing here? So, we're reconstructing a government that prioritizes the inherent rights and liberties of all men and women
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Rebecca Roberts: Over the powers of the state.
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Rebecca Roberts: So that is, our rights and liberties
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Rebecca Roberts: Are over and more important and superior to the powers of the state.
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Rebecca Roberts: And the hierarchy of a true government goes like this. Natural law, Flows to the people.
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Rebecca Roberts: What is the highest of those two? Natural law, and the people.
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Rebecca Roberts: Are kind of intrinsically involved.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then, after that, comes government. Below… And…
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Rebecca Roberts: under the people and natural law. We all know that.
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Rebecca Roberts: So the primary purpose of government, according to the founders, whenever we write about the founders or speak about them, we're talking about the founding fathers who…
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Rebecca Roberts: wrote our Constitution and Declarations of Independence. They are to protect these inherent rights that derive their legitimacy solely from the explicit
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Rebecca Roberts: consent.
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Rebecca Roberts: of the governed.
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Rebecca Roberts: Did we consent to having our water poisoned? No. Did we consent to having our food in the grocery store sprayed? No. Did we consent to having the air polluted? No.
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Rebecca Roberts: No! This is a tyranny gone wild, and we did not consent. So let's just know this is the law, and this is what our founders have said.
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Rebecca Roberts: That as trustees and servants of the people, the government officials are bound by a solemn duty to uphold constitutional limits and safeguard liberty. What is a trustee? Does anyone here know what a trustee is?
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, I'll tell you, a trustee holds the liability.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? That's it.
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Rebecca Roberts: They are liable.
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Rebecca Roberts: A trustee is liable, and they are servants, not only liable to the people, but they are servants to the people.
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Rebecca Roberts: Good to know that, right?
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Rebecca Roberts: And courts, in turn, are limited to a role of applying and declaring the law as it stands, rooted in the higher principles of divine and natural law, without the option to make the laws work for the men through manipulation.
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Rebecca Roberts: Do they manipulate? Yes. Do they have that option? No!
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Rebecca Roberts: So… what's going on?
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Rebecca Roberts: Through the subjective interpretations of a judge or a justice.
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Rebecca Roberts: our… that… sorry, that's my bad, I didn't finish that sentence, but through the subjective interpretations of a judge or a justice.
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Rebecca Roberts: We can't put our law in their hands. They're subjective, People, men or women.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is why we have juries.
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Rebecca Roberts: We interpret through the 12 or the 24. That's what we do. We don't allow 1 to make all of the judgments.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, our founding fathers carefully balanced the structure of governance that ensures accountability.
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Rebecca Roberts: Limits on the power, and the constant alignment with foundational principles that transcend man-made authority.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, we all talked last week, it was a great conversation about this advanced warfare that Catherine Austin Fitz writes about and speaks about widely.
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Rebecca Roberts: And…
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Rebecca Roberts: we are asking ourselves, some of us don't even know, how is this technology being used? But that is the question as we come together and form a document that will be a declaration, it would…
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Rebecca Roberts: It would also serve as a notice, and it would also serve as a law that we would be putting into the law of the land.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, in the past, an invading force, which is, like, for example, our foreign
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Rebecca Roberts: government. It's an invading force, it's foreign, and it is a force, okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: Usually motivated by greed, theft, right? Coming into an area that they do not yet govern. This is the fifth generation warfare we're talking about.
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Rebecca Roberts: With the intent of enriching themselves.
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Rebecca Roberts: They don't want to destroy what they're trying to steal.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: So, that is why they're trying to poison their enemy, U.S. citizens.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then take all of what they own, Without destroying the assets themselves!
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Rebecca Roberts: That's fifth generation warfare. That's what we're in right now.
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Rebecca Roberts: So… They also use psychological manipulation, mind control.
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Rebecca Roberts: They use brainwashing and behavior modification to trick the people, the U.S. citizens, that they are targeting. The whole design is to get, excuse me, the enemy to destroy itself, or themselves.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, we have to come to understand that reclaiming and enforcing these immutable principles within governance is essential to overcoming the corruption and restoring the true justice.
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Rebecca Roberts: So the answer to the enemy destroying everyone, and then running off with booty…
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Rebecca Roberts: is to restore true justice. That's what we're doing.
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Rebecca Roberts: Now I'm gonna read a little bit about the Founding Fathers and ask a couple of questions, so…
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Rebecca Roberts: The brilliance of the Founding Fathers, guided by enlightened political philosophers such as Montesquieu, Cicero, John Locke, and Sir William Blackstone, that many of us have heard Anna talk about, laid a firm foundation for a just society. Okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: As Montesquieu warned, when once a republic is corrupted, there is no responsibility of remedying any of the growing evils, but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles. Every other correction is useless.
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Rebecca Roberts: Is either useless or a new evil.
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Rebecca Roberts: Now, as we go through this, and there are any other quotes, I would love for there to be a volunteer, because when there's a quote, it's always good to hear another voice than the narrator.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, if anybody's interested, raise your hand, and you can do the next quote.
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Rebecca Roberts: So it is only through steadfast adherence to these principles and a commitment to true justice that we can ensure a government that genuinely serves the people.
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Rebecca Roberts: Who are the people?
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Rebecca Roberts: Just chime in, because I can't see participants right now, because I'm sharing.
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Jeanne Scott: We are the people.
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Nancy Goldstein: Here are the people.
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Rebecca Roberts: Who's we?
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Nancy Goldstein: Austin's… the air.
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Rebecca Roberts: us… I mean, I know that you're a state national, Nancy and Jean, but… Are U.S. citizens the people?
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Jeanne Scott: No, they're the persons.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's right!
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Rebecca Roberts: Look at you, Jean!
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Rebecca Roberts: Rockin' it.
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Rebecca Roberts: Who is the government in America?
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Jeanne Scott: The Federation?
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Jeanne Scott: No.
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Rebecca Roberts: Partly.
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Rebecca Roberts: You're not wrong.
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Jeanne Scott: The assemblies?
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Rebecca Roberts: What are assemblies?
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Jeanne Scott: the judicial… municipal… no, judicial…
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Rebecca Roberts: Keep it simple! What are the assemblies?
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loria gathings: The Republic?
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Nancy Goldstein: Us.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yay!
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Rebecca Roberts: They're the people. They're us.
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Rebecca Roberts: We are the people, we are the government. We are the government in America.
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Jeanne Scott: Okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah. But, you know, you're all right, too, you know, the assemblies, but the assembly is… it's a little bit…
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Rebecca Roberts: abstract from the actual living people. We assemble, so we call ourselves an assembly of people, but the most important thing is that we are living.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we are here.
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Rebecca Roberts: So what kind of a commitment would a people expect from a government?
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Rebecca Roberts: It's right on this page.
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loria gathings: We would expect them to do what we're…
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loria gathings: Want them to do, what we want.
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Rebecca Roberts: Right?
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Nancy Goldstein: It's a true justice.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yes, exactly! We want our government to have a commitment to true justice.
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Rebecca Roberts: And to steadfastly adhere to these principles.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, is that a pair of shoes that are too big to wear?
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Rebecca Roberts: Can we adhere to principles and a commitment to justice? Can we?
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Jeanne Scott: Yes?
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Rebecca Roberts: All right, Grady, thanks for chiming in. Right, up here, I have a link. I don't know if you can click on it, I don't know, I can… I can copy-paste it and put it in the chat later, but…
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Jeanne Scott: You can't.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so this… I got this from A Tree Ties on the Eight Immutable Principles of American Law and Governance. It's a PDF, it's amazing. It's nice and clearly written, and that's where I got this lesson. For today, and we're going to go through the first four principles.
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Rebecca Roberts: And you're gonna love them.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, we have to understand that reclaiming and enforcing the principles of justice within our governance
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Rebecca Roberts: is essential to overcoming the corruption and restoring true justice. So, we were talking last week about overcoming the corruption, and we can only do that when we are reclaiming and enforcing these, that will some of them be listed today, immutable principles.
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Rebecca Roberts: Isn't that great?
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Rebecca Roberts: So here it is.
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Rebecca Roberts: Early American laws and charters explicitly acknowledged God's authority as a supreme lawgiver. The Declaration of Independence, 1776,
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Rebecca Roberts: The Declaration firmly establishes the belief that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights or unalienable rights.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's principle number one, which is, all man-made law originates from and must align with Divine…
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Rebecca Roberts: or natural law. Any law that fails to do so is inherently valid. Okay, so, anybody want to say that in a nutshell? Like, what does that mean?
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Rebecca Roberts: Principle 1. Can you just say it in your own words?
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Rebecca Roberts: Just chime in, because I can't see hands.
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Jeanne Scott: If any laws are not… with God, then they are not valid.
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Rebecca Roberts: Beautifully said! I love it, Jean!
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Rebecca Roberts: Beautifully said. Perfect. Alright, I think we're done with that.
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Rebecca Roberts: Principle number 2. There's only 4 tonight.
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Rebecca Roberts: All rights are bestowed, bestowed, you know, like a gift, right? It's bestowing.
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Rebecca Roberts: rights are given, like gifts, right? All rights are bestowed by our Creator. They are unalenable, inherent…
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Rebecca Roberts: Like, you're born with it. And natural.
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Rebecca Roberts: And lie beyond the authority of government to grant alter… or infringe.
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Rebecca Roberts: Would anyone like to say that in their own words?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: spread on me.
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Rebecca Roberts: Don't dread on me, is that what you said, Neithi?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yes.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, that's… that's a good one. We have… we see that everywhere, right?
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Rebecca Roberts: And they cannot alter by treading, you know? They cannot alter your rights.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's a coiled snake. That… logo of, don't tread on me.
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Rebecca Roberts: Natural rights are bestowed upon the people by their Creator and are immutable.
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Rebecca Roberts: Could someone please look up the word immutable in, like, Google search? What do they catch that that means? And while they were looking that up, someone here, maybe a guy, would like to read the words that Alexander Hamilton
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Rebecca Roberts: Now, I really enjoyed that Broadway show, but it was
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Rebecca Roberts: But here he is, Alexander Hamilton's. Who's gonna read? Just chime in and read.
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Rebecca Roberts: I'm trying to make it bigger, I don't know how to do that.
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loria gathings: The sacred… the sacred rites of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records.
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loria gathings: They are written as with the sunbeam in the whole volume of man-made nature, by the hand of the divinity itself, and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.
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Rebecca Roberts: Beautiful, thank you.
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Rebecca Roberts: Who would like to tell us what, immutable means?
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Nancy Goldstein: Not changing or unable to be changed.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, you can't mutate?
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Nancy Goldstein: No. Like…
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Rebecca Roberts: What does mRNA stand for?
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Rebecca Roberts: Modified, mutated, DNA.
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Nancy Goldstein: Mike Mosbach is trying to get in the meeting.
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Rebecca Roberts: I guess I have to… Come back to the… Where is that?
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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, God.
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Rebecca Roberts: Sometimes Zoom isn't easy for me. Okay, wait, I go to chat…
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Rebecca Roberts: Hold on, participants, I need participants.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Dan.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Turn to get into.
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Rebecca Roberts: There's a bunch of them. Okay, here we go.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, they'll have to listen to the replay to the first part, okay. Let's see, now where was I?
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Rebecca Roberts: Can you see this, document again, or… I don't know what I'm… what you can see. Yeah. Okay.
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Nancy Goldstein: Okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so what does mRNA mean?
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Rebecca Roberts: modified or mutated, and now we're reading, natural rights are bestowed upon people by their creator, And are immutable!
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Rebecca Roberts: They literally… the government said, here is a mutable jab that goes in your arm, Take it.
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Rebecca Roberts: And if you don't take it, you can't come to the Army, or Navy, or Marines, and you can't work for the government, and you can't do this and that, and this and that.
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Rebecca Roberts: Do you think that we were usurped?
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loria gathings: Of course.
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Rebecca Roberts: Incredible. Principle number two, natural rights are immutable.
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Rebecca Roberts: And you can't even give them away, so…
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, who's gonna be Thomas Jefferson now?
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Rebecca Roberts: Thomas Jefferson declared… For principle number 2, we want to hear what Jefferson said. Who's gonna read it?
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Rebecca Roberts: Let's have someone who… who's shy and, you know, it's just one line, come on.
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Michael Davis - Surry County: I'm shy, and I'll do it.
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Michael Davis - Surry County: Jefferson declared, the will of the majority should always be respected, but it must be reasonable that the minority possesses their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, are we a democracy?
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Rebecca Roberts: Because this is saying majority and minority, right? That's what a democracy is. It's like the majority rules, right? That the 51%, they decided that, you know, everybody with,
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't know… who owns a cat?
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Rebecca Roberts: Needs to pay a tax. You know, whatever.
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Rebecca Roberts: Are we a democracy? No! What is Jefferson saying here? Can someone say it in their own words?
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Jeanne Scott: That even though the majority of the people want a certain thing, that we cannot forget about the minorities, and then… and not oppress them.
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Rebecca Roberts: Beautiful! We have to!
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Rebecca Roberts: Honor the equal rights of every single man and woman.
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Rebecca Roberts: Doesn't matter if you're the one man out in the jury who says, or woman, I do not agree.
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Rebecca Roberts: That this is how we move forward.
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Rebecca Roberts: We must find a way that we honor the rights of everyone to speak up.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we honor the rights of everyone who's a little different.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because we're honoring diversity here.
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Rebecca Roberts: And I don't mean that in, like, a liberal way. I mean that we're all different. We're diverse.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we have to honor every single right, because it's… Equal.
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Rebecca Roberts: While we're doing principal… well, actually, can someone look up equal? What does equal mean?
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Rebecca Roberts: In, like, Google search, or whatever it's called.
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Rebecca Roberts: what does equal… and don't read the math one. Read, like, the… you know, the one that has to do with rights, or…
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Rebecca Roberts: Or yeah, or just look up equal rights, even. Like, what is… what are we coming up with here?
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Rebecca Roberts: Just chime in.
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: This is Tess.
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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead.
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Okay.
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: A person or a thing considered to be the same as another in status or quality.
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: And having the ability or resources to meet, and in parentheses, a challenge. That's what I found.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's interesting, because they say the same as, which…
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't know if that… do we… do we agree? Does that feel right?
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Rebecca Roberts: Are we the same? Is our Tessa and I the same? No. We even have different names. We're not the same. Can never be the same. There's no one the same as me, even if I had an identical twin.
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Rebecca Roberts: So maybe we, you know, sometimes we have to think about what we find on the internet.
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Rebecca Roberts: But… did you have something to say about that, Tess?
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Well, I had my hand raised, thank you. I had my hand…
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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, sorry, I can't…
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: I figured, but the reason why I had my hand raised was I wanted to comment about… is… I remember Ana saying that
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: Or it might have been Neathi, it might have been someone saying that the…
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: what you said, what Jefferson said was to put, checks and balances. So the reason why we have that is, number one, checks and balances, because the majority, if the majority… if 51% of the people say it's okay to kill and eat.
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Tess/Wake/North Carolina: the other 49%, that doesn't make it right. So, I seem to remember the words, checks and balances and that analogy. Thank you, I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's right, and that's a pretty severe, example you gave there, but it's actually true, you know, because we're… we have equal rights, so you cannot, you know, obscure another's rights, no matter what, whether you're in a majority or not. There's really no such thing as a majority or minority in our government. Everyone has a voice.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we work it out.
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Nancy Goldstein: My definition is that… do… I have another definition. It says, same in importance and deserving the same truth.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's a bit better, yeah.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's… that's a better one.
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Rebecca Roberts: I think we have to be on a search for what equal really means.
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Rebecca Roberts: Equal rights.
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Rebecca Roberts: Equal law.
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Rebecca Roberts: Must be tight.
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Rebecca Roberts: And violate would be oppression.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.
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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, democracy is an oppression.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's really basically what he's saying there.
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Rebecca Roberts: Any other one… anyone else's hand up that needs to speak right now, and… Anyone?
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Rebecca Roberts: Nita… yeah, go ahead.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I was just gonna say that, equal means same. The same.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yep.
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Rebecca Roberts: We're not the same people, but we have the same rights, yeah.
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Rebecca Roberts: Very good. Anyone else?
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, so we've done Principle 1 and 2, now we're on to 3 and 4. Principle 3, the sole and only legitimate reason government exists is to secure the people's rights.
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Rebecca Roberts: And every other function is an act of usurpation, oppression, and treason.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, right now, we have a subcontractor government that is not securing the people's rights and is poisoning them.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, yeah, we're definitely under usurpation, oppression, and treason right now. And tyranny.
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Rebecca Roberts: And it says in the Alabama Constitution, Article 1, Section 35,
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Rebecca Roberts: That the sole object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property. And when the government assumes other functions, it is
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Rebecca Roberts: Usurpation and oppression. Now, in this case, citizen in those days meant American, just so you know.
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Rebecca Roberts: And when this was written, this was what it was meant.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, the only legitimate end is to, protect.
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Rebecca Roberts: Right?
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Rebecca Roberts: The subcontractor government, this is me, has been party 2, 1, 2, 3, and 4. Who wants to read one?
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Rebecca Roberts: Just chime in.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I'll read it.
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Rebecca Roberts: Thanks, Mike.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yeah, I'm trying to move your screen away from what's covering. Could you scroll the page down a little bit? Because your picture is covering the sentence. Thank you. Okay, number one.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Oops.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I got it.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Oh, I got it. Okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: You can read all of them, actually, Mike, since you're there.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Alright. Thanks.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Funding ideological programs.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Federal funding for education programs that promote specific ideologies and neutral education.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Over neutral education. Number two, surveillance programs. NSA data collection violates privacy rights under the guise of national security. Number three, misallocation of taxpayer funds.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: spending on foreign aid. Number four, In can…
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Inaction of public safety, failure to secure borders, undermine citizen safety and rights to sovereignty.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: And… Principle 4, all governments hold authority solely through explicit, expressed, Delegation from the people.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: And any power taken without any… any power taken without such delegation is overreach and constitutes usurpation and treason.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, great, thanks. So, we just went to Principle 4, but those 4 just above on Principle 3 that Mike just read, thank you so much, Mike, appreciate it, are some of the things that…
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Rebecca Roberts: this subcontractor has been doing. Not everything, but it's some of the things.
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Rebecca Roberts: Which is what we were talking about last week.
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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, number 4, citizen safety. And I'm not even just talking about the secure borders, but…
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Rebecca Roberts: Citizen safety has been undermined.
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Rebecca Roberts: 100%.
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Rebecca Roberts: We don't pay taxes, we're already beyond that. Some of us are still struggling with all of that, especially the housing stuff and the property tax. And then the surveillance, I mean, it's on every light, and then the funding of the ideological programs in the schools. They have no powers in the educational
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Rebecca Roberts: sphere. None. There's nothing on that in the Constitution that they're supposed to follow. So where they're getting at this idea that not only do they have some say in the schools, but they also
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Rebecca Roberts: Teaching our kids crazy stuff.
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Rebecca Roberts: really bad stuff.
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't know if you know about what they're doing. So, good to continue on a little bit.
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Rebecca Roberts: Principle number 4 is Mike Redd.
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Rebecca Roberts: Is that the government holds authority solely through explicit, express delegation.
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Rebecca Roberts: Delegation, that's the key word, from the people.
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Rebecca Roberts: Did we tell the government
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Rebecca Roberts: To open the borders? No. Did we tell the government to create unsafe water? Unsafe air? Unsafe food?
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Rebecca Roberts: Unsafe vaccines! Forced vaccines!
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Rebecca Roberts: NEXRAD, scale our weapons on every… in every town. Did we delegate?
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Rebecca Roberts: these powers to the government that they are actually doing right now. We can see it with our own two eyes.
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Rebecca Roberts: The answer's no.
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loria gathings: Bye.
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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, y'all know that. I don't mean to be, like, annoying about asking you questions, but…
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Rebecca Roberts: you know, just… just keep thinking, right? Because these are the principles of the laws that we will uphold for our people.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, this underscores
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Rebecca Roberts: this, delegation power, underscores the bedrock of all legitimate government powers, and are derived from the express consent of the people. So, because we don't say anything, we are
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Rebecca Roberts: Consenting by silence.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? Just so you know that. That's why we do our declarations, that's why we do our affidavits, or, you know, our testimonies in the form of an affidavit. That's why we do all of what we do. It's because
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Rebecca Roberts: We are saying we do not consent. We are taking that bull by the horns, and we're…
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Rebecca Roberts: driving this baby where it needs to go. We're not just gonna stand back and have the bull run over us.
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Rebecca Roberts: We're in charge. We're consenting, and we're saying we don't consent, and we're not silent.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because you're consenting if you're silent.
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Rebecca Roberts: So this principle safeguards liberty and prevents tyranny through the government overreach that we've just talked about. Delegated power is a trust.
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Rebecca Roberts: that the people extend to the governing subcontractor. The government cannot delegate as they have no delegating power, which comes exclusively from a sovereign.
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Rebecca Roberts: The people have the sole and exclusive right of governing themselves as a free, sovereign, and independent state. That is from the Massachusetts, which I spelled wrong, Constitution.
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Rebecca Roberts: All war.
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Rebecca Roberts: Which we know are not wars, but all military, combat, mercenary, conflict, all that stuff.
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Rebecca Roberts: and emergency powers, all federal education, spending, taxing, and everything are all overreaches. So, we've got a job to do, and we need to tell
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Rebecca Roberts: this… Subcontractor, what we will allow and accept, and what we will not allow and not accept.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, I hope you all liked that. Let me see, where's Zoom?
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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, I got someone waiting in the… I apologize to anyone who was in the waiting room for too long, I was sharing a document and I could not see the participants. Now we have a good crew on tonight, and it's excellent to see everyone, and thank you so much for following along with that.
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Rebecca Roberts: Gene, go ahead.
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Rebecca Roberts: You have to unmute, though. I don't know, did you?
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Rebecca Roberts: Did I un…
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Jeanne Scott: No, no, no, I just didn't click it correctly.
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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead.
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Jeanne Scott: So when we say subcontractor, like, who are we talking about? The IRS? Who, who, who…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, that's part of it.
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Jeanne Scott: Okay. Anyone here know how to answer that question?
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: May I?
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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Mark.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Okay, so our federal subcontractors, are the, British… British monarch, or the British, one's chartered by the British Crown, the other chartered… the other one is chartered by the,
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: the Vatican. So we have the British Crown, which is a territorial, territorial government, and then the municipal government is, chartered by the Vatican, or the Pope.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: So, those are our two subcontractors of the federal government. I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Very good. Thank you so much, Mike.
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Rebecca Roberts: Would anyone else like to comment, or have a question, or…
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Rebecca Roberts: Floor's open.
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loria gathings: I, I have a question. North Carolina, I'm sure that we have a constitution. Does anybody know about that?
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loria gathings: I see Massachusetts have one, I see the other. They said they had one. I'm just curious, does North Carolina have a constitution on our nation?
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Rebecca Roberts: Nancy, did you want to answer that?
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Nancy Goldstein: Yeah, we do have one.
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loria gathings: Hmm.
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loria gathings: Where can we find that, Nancy, do you know?
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Nancy Goldstein: I think I actually have a copy of it.
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Nancy Goldstein: Amazing.
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loria gathings: with me.
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Nancy Goldstein: I'm thinking…
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loria gathings: Okay.
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Nancy Goldstein: I'll look and let me see. I've got so much junk here. Let me look. I'll let you know if I have it or not.
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loria gathings: Okay, thank you.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I think every state… I think every state has a constitution. Am I right? Am I correct? I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, Anna was just talking about that on one of her talks. Not every state does have a constitution, and they don't need one.
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Rebecca Roberts: But we do.
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loria gathings: That's the one.
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Rebecca Roberts: But we do have one.
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loria gathings: That's what I add, yeah, okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we have 3 constitutions.
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Rebecca Roberts: One for the territorial.
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Rebecca Roberts: One for the municipal.
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Rebecca Roberts: And one for us.
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Rebecca Roberts: For our government.
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Rebecca Roberts: Did you see something, Nancy?
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Nancy Goldstein: Yeah, I found it's the Constitution of North Carolina, March 1660… er, 1868, and then the Constitution of North Carolina, Amendments of 1873, and then Amendments of 1875, and then Amendments of 1879. So that's 4 different documents I have.
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Rebecca Roberts: Great.
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Rebecca Roberts: I would like to take a look at those as well, and we can all… Mull through them.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay. Gloria?
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loria gathings: Yes, I'd like to, I know it's a lot to put in the chat, but…
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loria gathings: However you can get that to me, Nancy, I'd love to have those, okay? Thank you. I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Thanks, Nancy.
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, so, I just think it's good to know about the principles.
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Rebecca Roberts: That we have for…
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Rebecca Roberts: Our law, the principles of the law, and to go over those. And we'll do the rest of them next week.
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Rebecca Roberts: But they… they are grounding, they're strengthening.
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Rebecca Roberts: there… oh, I think I'm still sharing a screen. I don't know how to stop sharing a screen.
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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, stop share. There we go. They're, empowering, and they also give us, like, a rudder, not that,
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Rebecca Roberts: So I didn't introduce it, okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: They give us, like, a direction, a way to, move forward.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, the education piece of the meeting's over for now. That was a good 45 minutes. Duh…
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Rebecca Roberts: Did anyone else have thoughts about how we want to present
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, how we… how we want to come together to…
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Rebecca Roberts: right? I mean, I could just do it, right? But that's not gonna help us all.
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Rebecca Roberts: Like, what… what do you think that we should do, at…
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Rebecca Roberts: And we can just talk in plain English, we don't have to say, oh, it has to be a NIST notice that. But, like, how do we get the,
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Rebecca Roberts: The subcontractor to back off.
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Rebecca Roberts: And start obeying the law.
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Rebecca Roberts: what would be your, ideas? As everyone has an equal right here to speak and to…
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Rebecca Roberts: you know, share their opinions or their knowledge, and as we know, our shared knowledge is more and more steps away from slavery, so let's do that. Let's share what we have. Like.
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Rebecca Roberts: You had some great ideas, Mike, last week about, like, what was really going on, and we can go on and on and on.
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Rebecca Roberts: For a long time.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Well.
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Rebecca Roberts: With, like, who… yeah, go ahead.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Well, to answer your question, I think… well, to my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: But I believe we would have to have, 9 states of the Union in full session.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: to, tell the federal government to step down. I think nine states.
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Rebecca Roberts: 9?
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: fault.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Is that gonna about the…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Federal, but locally, we don't…
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: All locally. Ex parte Milligan?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Absolutely. We, we would, we, we do that with, Ex Parte Milligan.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yes, I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: How do we do ex parte Milligan? Does anyone here know?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I think that's really advanced. We're…
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Rebecca Roberts: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, well…
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Rebecca Roberts: I'm gonna pull it up.
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Rebecca Roberts: We looked at it on the first day.
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Rebecca Roberts: of… I just have to…
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Rebecca Roberts: Apologize that I'm not really great at doing this.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, where's my ex parte? I don't have to go… I probably shouldn't be sharing, like, everything I've got on here.
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Rebecca Roberts: Our fund… okay, maybe not.
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Rebecca Roberts: Ex Parte Milligan is a declaration of our provenance.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's all.
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Rebecca Roberts: It's a one-page declaration.
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Rebecca Roberts: It sounds fancy, ex parte Milligan, but really all it is is saying that we are the people, and we're here.
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Rebecca Roberts: And, we're sovereign, and we don't delegate power to you.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's it.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Was it… Oh, we need…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yep. Wasn't… wasn't Milligan an individual?
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.
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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Oh, okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: We can get some more history on it if you're interested. But, in order.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We do it as an assembly.
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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, yeah.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, you have an ex parte milligan?
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, in order to do it, we need to have a standing juroral assembly. So we have a couple more positions, and there were a couple of people interested in,
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Rebecca Roberts: Julia is considering the, court clerk?
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Rebecca Roberts: We would need, yeah, Julia, sorry?
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Julia Karelina: Yes, I am. Interested.
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Rebecca Roberts: Very good.
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Rebecca Roberts: And I tried to send you the PDF, and I don't think it worked. Rohith, go ahead.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: I just wanted to say that I think, for the most part, we're just starting to understand jurisdiction, so this is…
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: Pretty advanced.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: I think that… We're all, as a group, just learning.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: how to stand in our own jurisdiction, and we should stay right there for now. Otherwise, it's… it's a lot of information that we're just slowly getting.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so just more education. I mean, education is so important, and knowledge, and ac… you know.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: Yeah, it's good to know where we're headed, and I understand us talking about it to a certain extent, but I don't know if we need to get into the details yet about ex parte Milligan, because, like I said earlier.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: We're just learning or understanding our own jurisdiction and where we are in our own jurisdiction.
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Rebecca Roberts: Right.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: How are you?
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Rebecca Roberts: So, this, foundations of justice that Anna had
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Rebecca Roberts: brought our attention to a few months ago is a tree ties on the eight immutable principles of the American law and governance.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we just did the four principles tonight, and we'll do the last four next week.
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Rebecca Roberts: And… It… it is, I mean, everyone here understood very well how those first four principles
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Rebecca Roberts: went, and I'm just gonna… I'm just gonna read them.
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Rebecca Roberts: quickly again. So the first one is that all man-made law originates from and must align with divine or natural law.
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Rebecca Roberts: And any law that fails to do so is inherently invalid, okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: And then we've got…
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Rebecca Roberts: There's a lot written about that, so I'm scrolling, sorry. And then, we've got Principle 2, all rights are bestowed by our Creator.
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Rebecca Roberts: They are unalienable, inherent, and natural, and lie beyond the authority of government to grant, alter, or infringe.
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Rebecca Roberts: So we've got rights bestowed by the Creator, And then the first one…
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Rebecca Roberts: All law originates from the divine or natural law, okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: And then… I mean, these are simple, but then…
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Rebecca Roberts: discussing how they apply, or how we have application in our daily lives, is the conversation. That's where it gets mor
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