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Bitcoin Will Power the Internet of Money and Tokenize Real World Assets with David Marcus
Natalie Brunell and David Marcus, Co-Founder & CEO of Lightspark, former PayPal President and Meta executive, talk about why Bitcoin will become the Internet of Money and why it’s still massively undervalued compared to gold.
We discuss:
- Bitcoin’s path to surpassing gold
- Stablecoins and tokenization on Bitcoin
- AI, micropayments, and the future of commerce
- Lightspark’s Spark: faster, cheaper Bitcoin payments
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IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE
00:00 Building Lightspark
1:52 Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange
3:05 Does Bitcoin Threaten the Dollar?
4:22 Gemini Bitcoin Credit Card | Bitwise | Ledn Bitcoin-backed Loans
5:59 What Is the Lightning Network?
8:06 Stablecoins on Bitcoin via Spark
13:31 “Stablechange"
16:44 Global Dollarization
20:40 Speed Wallet | Bitkey | The Bitcoin Way | Genius Academy
22:30 The Dollar’s Future and Multipolar World
26:03 Tokenizing Assets
30:12 Bitcoin Adoption, Liquidity, Lightning
33:46 Bitcoin: More Than a Store of Value
37:10 AI, Micropayments, Bitcoin
38:16 Lightspark Grid
40:46 Bitcoin Price Prediction
*OTHER RESOURCES*
Natalie Brunell’s website https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/
Lightspark https://www.lightspark.com/
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Producer: Aron Bender https://www.linkedin.com/in/aron-bender/
Editor: Silas Foley
📄 LEGAL & RISK DISCLOSURE
1. No Financial Advice: This content is for entertainment purposes only and not intended as financial, legal, or tax advice. I am not a licensed financial advisor. Always consult a professional.
2. Sponsored Content & Affiliate Links: I may receive compensation when you use them, which helps support the channel at no additional cost to you.
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