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Liberal CNN Panel Piles on Ben Ferguson Defending Meta Removing Page Tracking ICE Movements: ‘That’s Not Doxxing’
Ferguson: “Wait, wait, wait. If there‘s a police officer or an ICE agent whose picture is put up in a group chat on Facebook that is about ICE and it says, ‘Let‘s expose this person, somebody tell me who he is, where he lives.’”
FISCHER: “Okay, I‘m going to be real with you. That‘s not doxxing.”
Ferguson: “You think that’s not doxxing?”
FISCHER: “It‘s definitely not.”
Ferguson: “You don‘t think that that‘s putting lives at risk?”
FISCHER: “No, doxxing is when you actually pay somebody‘s personal identifiable information, PII, which is an email address or phone number or physical address. I‘m not saying that what you‘re saying isn‘t bad. It’s just not — “
Ferguson: “I‘m saying it‘s dangerous.”
FISCHER: “I‘m not saying it isn‘t. But it‘s not considered doxing when it comes to these policies.”
Ferguson: “Then you and I have a different definition, because when you‘re advocating for exposing — “
NAVARRO: “No, but, Ben, that’s the legal definition of doxxing. It‘s not up to you or — it’s not a subjective definition.”
PHILLIP: “But, Ben, hold on one second — “
Ferguson: “If somebody was doing it to you or your family — “
NAVARRO: “They do it to me! They have done it.”
Ferguson: “Right. And that‘s why I‘m defending it.”
NAVARRO: “I’m saying, this is wrong. And you can’t — “
PHILLIP: “Just give me one second, Ben.”
BOYKIN: “Chill for a second.”
PHILLIP: “Ben, just give me one second, okay? I have been doxxed. I have had my personal identifying information put on the internet. I‘ve had my family‘s address, they don‘t work here at CNN, Put on the internet. That is not a crime. It‘s not a crime. And and I‘m asking you if you want the government to be in a position where anytime that somebody posts a picture, an address — public information, by the way — of people who are in law enforcement positions, that that information gets taken down? That‘s really the standard that you want to set?”
Ferguson: “I will say this. If there is a page on Facebook tonight that decided to put out all of our family‘s information and ‘Let‘s go after these people in the media,’ in a clear way of a threat to any of our lives, I would say that I would want that taken down. I don‘t think that makes me crazy or anti-American or anti-free speech.”
PHILLIP: “From a normative perspective, sure, we would all want that taken down. But the question is, what should the government be doing? And I think that you‘ve taken a stand against the government being involved in taking down Covid misinformation or what have you. I just don‘t understand why — “
Ferguson: “There was no outrage then when it was going on. You guys were not freaking out about it.”
FISCHER: “I was the one covering it. There was a ton of freaking out.”
Ferguson: “You condemned, actually condemned it?”
FISCHER: “Biden was pressuring — no, it was actually Meta and Google that he was pressuring, and we were definitely getting calls on that.”
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