From Vegan Star Chef to Regenerative Rancher | Mollie Engelhart

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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Mollie Engelhart. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on October 8, 2025.

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Mollie Engelhart was once a celebrated vegan farm-to-table restaurateur in California. When she decided to put meat back on the menu, a targeted campaign forced her to close her business.

She ultimately decided to make the painful decision to uproot her entire life, sell her farm, and rebuild from scratch in Texas.

She’s the author of the new book “Debunked by Nature: How a Vegan-Chef-Turned-Regenerative-Farmer Discovered that Mother Nature Is a Conservative.”

“We’re treating the soil and our bodies like we can outsmart them, but we’re getting sicker,” she says.

Once an ardent believer in the vegan movement, Engelhart now questions much of what she once believed.

“Nature taught me my ideas were ridiculous. ... My cow isn’t the enemy,” she says.

Real environmentalism is “not to avoid nature, but to interact with her; not to try to out-science her, but to remember her wisdom,” she says.

How does the health of our soil shape the health of our bodies? In this episode, Jan and Mollie dive into the roots of our health crisis and why real change often starts small, with curious consumers and courageous farmers.

CHAPTERS
0:00:00 Existential Crisis in Food Systems and Introduction to Mollie Engelhart
0:01:01 Journey from Vegan Chef to Regenerative Rancher
0:02:41 Impact of Menu Change and Restaurant Closures
0:06:06 Debunked by Nature: Rethinking Environmentalism
0:10:21 Practicing Regenerative Agriculture in Texas
0:11:40 Government and Public Interest in Regenerative Farming
0:12:17 Soil Health, Chemical Farming, and Industry Change
0:15:30 Community Response and Media Engagement
0:17:45 Texas Flood Relief and Community Support
0:18:58 Human Health Crisis and Environmental Alarm
0:21:12 Reflections on Change, Wisdom, and Authenticity