( -0973 ) 'Hampstead Cannibal Kids' - Mum Got Polygraphed - How in 3 Mos. Did a Russian-Born Yoga Teacher & Her Hemp Buff Lover Teach 2 Kids to Say This - - Pt.1 - 16+ Content)

( -0973 ) 'Hampstead Cannibal Kids - Child Recanted But Not Fully - Then Mum Got Polygraphed - How in 3 Mos. Did a Russian-Born Yoga Teacher & Her Hemp Buff Lover Teach 2 Kids to Say This - - 16+ Content)

The one thing the boy never recanted was his abuse by Ricky in the pool...
Then the mum got her polygraph. (Now she goes by Ella Gareeva instead of Ella Draper...

TRANSCRIPT:

you?
My mum says that they did interview my mum or other him.
Right.
They did interview me and them.
They took like the stamps and all kind of stuff from my mum and everyone.
But the policeman that interviewed you yesterday has told the policeman.
They're not really helping.
Well we know that, we know that.
But it's part of the standard procedure where you have to tell the police what's happening.
They will, the police, the place where we're hurting you, go to do sex.
Because my father does not have his own house.
Right.
He goes and he does, well Mr Hollings does his full state.
Right.
Did you find that house then, yeah?
Hm?
What about the baby skulls?
Did you find the baby skulls?
No.
You weren't searching for them?
Yeah, they didn't have a search warrant.
The police wanted to search, they wanted to go to the church today.
Right.
But, you know, up behind, he's telling them to go tomorrow because the mice are sexed then.
Well, the sooner we get them sorted out the better.
You know, what?
The police wanted to go tomorrow.
What was the name of the priest, father?
My Bo.
Was he a nasty piece of work?
And he's fat.
He's fat as well.
My goodness.
Very strange.
And Kafka's, that's another thing that's...
Special services, GPs, doctors.
They know about it.
Sister.
They're all in on it?
Mm-hm.
They do sex.
They all do sex.
You're talking about a major sex culture, you know?
Oi!
Shut up.
That dog's nuts.
You know, that's how she distracts.
Yeah.
So, but, till we let him go.
Right.
That's what we do when we...
Because when we eat, you know.
Right.
And we're all in.
And now, to mum's brain, to let her go off.
Right.
And mum said that she's distracted yet.
No need to let her go off.
Well.
So you were saying that your grandmother's in on it as well?
On your father's mother?
Yes, my father's mother and my father's grandmother.
They're all in on it?
Goodness me.
Yes, but you know, that...
Kafka's family.
Well, our family.
Our family.
We've got black circles around us.
They're like big patches.
Right.
Because of the sugar, that's what everyone's said.
Right, yeah.
But mum knows because she's so dumb.
Hmm.
Very strange.
My mum said that when you were babies, like my father and my auntie's grandmother.
She's like, "Is this mum?"
And I'm saying that it's that grandmother.
She's like, "Oh, look at that! Look at that!"
Like that when you were babies.
Goodness me.
Or at home five and stuff.
Jesus.
It's all going to stop now.
That's what a couple of them said.
That my father might escape if he gets alerted.
Hard day.
Yeah.
They're going to run. They're going to be like cockroaches.
Just got one for a rock to hide under.
But there ain't going to be no rocks.
Because we're going to make sure there's no rocks for them to hide under.
They look like rabbits trying to get over their foes.
Rabbits are nice little creatures.
They're more like cockroaches than they're like rabbits.
Why are you worrying that the police and the priests are in on this?
They need the good police to do...
No, gentlemen's friends.
And in fact, is that one is called Sarah.
She works at the Clio's.
Her latest lady was a dark lad.
Well, she was kind of dark, dark, Christian.
Okay.
Yes. Her partner, Sarah, she's a bad lady.
She's got really red cheeks.
And she's actually one of them.
What do you mean, partner? She's a lesbian?
She works with her.
Oh, right.
And she's one of them. The ones who preach the police.
That's why they're not helping.
Right.
We think that Steve and the old police, the good police, they all do it.
They all do it?
That's what we think.
Well, it's not too difficult.
It's not that we think he can't help us, but perhaps he feels...
He feels it.
He just suspects it. He suspects that there's something going on.
Because if they did know, there would have been an action, there would have been help.
Right.
Well, they would have been in jail by now because they said on Monday or Saturday or Sunday or Monday they would get arrested.
What day is it today? Is it the 9th of September?
Today's not Tuesday.
Tuesday, the 9th of September?
Yesterday they had to be arrested.
So it's Tuesday, the 9th, or was it the 8th or the 9th?
No, today's the 9th.
Why, today's the 9th of September 2014.
Saturday was 8th.
Yeah, yesterday was the 8th.
No, it was 6th.
Oh, right.
It was 6th.
So it's 1550, it's almost 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
Yep, 9th of September 2014.
Very strange.
We never believed, we never believed the children.
We never believed.
Children, there are some children lying to us.
Is there really?
Yes, there are.
Sophie, she's got a little child, sir.
How old is she?
You see, she's only 8 years old.
Well, but she enjoys it.
Yes, she likes it.
Is there parents under her as well?
Yes, and she likes to do so herself.
Right.
Now, she's 8 years old?
Yes.
That's...
And she gets a lot of sweets.
Right.
How much money do they get?
Oh, a lot.
And do they charge for it as well?
Yes.
Yeah, but they charge for it as well, don't they?
Yes.
How much do they charge?
One thousand pounds, it looks like one thousand pounds a week, they get.
Maybe two, maybe some million pounds.
It doesn't matter, yes.
Since they charge 50 pounds every single day,
for a whole year, it's like 365 days.
It comes to a lot of money, yes.
No, it's a lot of money, it's like a message for you as a number.
The number doesn't mean anything, but talking about children's suffering here, you know.
Every year it does.
They have 365 babies every year.
365, probably more if you multiply it by the rest of the country.
Remember, it's very strange.
Have you drunk blood?
Yes, tastes like metal.
Tastes like metal, they're not.
Well, you're a vegetarian, you're vegan.
It's weird.
It's weird tasting.
They made you eat flesh as well, baby's flesh.
Flesh?
Was it baby's flesh?
It was baby's flesh and meat and normal animal, less the chicken and beef.
Right.
Why do they cut the heads off the babies?
They hang it upside down.
And after there's this big white ball on it.
And after they cut, they cut the head off, it falls on the floor.
They leave it on, they cut it off the head.
But then after it's still on, it's just hanging on.
And then the blood drips in.
Because there's blood spilled on the floor and it's like that splattered everywhere.
They got mops.
They do everything they can say.
They don't like to leave a mess?
No, they would like to leave a mess.
But they know that just in case, if maybe one of the children waltz out, they police or something.
Well listen, everything's going to be alright.
Everything's going to be alright. It's going to change now.
That's right.
When we had the school disco, that's why our sugar favourite said,
"No parents are allowed to be in the school disco."
Right.
Right, that was only one page.
The only page that my mum had.
Everyone else, they didn't have parents that were allowed.
It says, "Parents are welcome to come."
Well, because they were involved.
They were involved.
The mother is not involved.
Parents are not allowed. Their parents have to just drop off a child and go.
Wow.
That's what kind of trick they use.
What about the secret language? What about the secret language that they use?
Yes.
Tell me about that.
They use it too. They use it to teach us. They use it. All of them use it.
What's the secret language?
Acting.
Tell me. Show me.
So as I said, there's aggressive...as I said, there's aggressive yesterday.
Go on.
I'll show you.
And they...they...they...they fight one day.
Right.
But this one means that...that means that some of my mum knows and they...
Some of his club knows that he doesn't do it.
Right.
That means that will alert them.
What about...what about...
Because yesterday, the lady that we know, she was one of them.
Right.
She was just walking, just spying on us.
OK.
Because I said, "Oh, just spying on them."
Right, right, right, right.
She was spying on them.
And then after, I was like...I was close, but an alerting part that I told...
Right.
...that I'd put a guard and I would...me and I said, "If I do, I'll actually get killed."
That's right.
And then after, I tried not to do that. I did it. So I just put my hands like that.
Right.
But I did do this one.
Which means touch.
Touch.
What about the one where you wiggle your ass?
Yes, that's right. That means touch them quickly, like right this moment.
Right this moment, right. Right.
Well, all them things you're going to stop now...
No, we don't. We're going to stop.
Only if you please our health.
That's right.
Do you know how many children you've saved because of your bravery?
200.
No, but that's only today. That's only...I mean, in the future.
If we stop these people, if you realize that you've...
I know.
You've got a lot.
But I think it's like, no, not 200. All schools.
I don't know how many teachers there are in school. But children are there in schools.
How many schools are involved?
Like all Hampstead ones, all Hampstead area. All.
How many of the priests are involved?
My name...
How many of the priests are involved?
Maybe about 20, something like that. But it's a lot. A lot of priests. It seems a lot, but it's not much.
What's the name of the church?
Christchurch.
Hampstead.
Christchurch primary school. That's what all churchs are.
And the name of the priest that's involved?
Father Paul.
Paul who?
Father Paul. His name's Father Paul. We call him Father Paul.
Don't know his second name, though.
No, but his real name is Father Paul.
If no one's real name, he has to be the children.
Is he a bad... Does he hurt us?
Yes. A lot.
Right.
Mr. Morris is a big guy who's a child taker.
Not childhood, a child carer.
Right.
Yes. Well, he works... So he sleeps at the floor in school.
Well, he's a worker, so he locks up at the school gates.
So when everyone's lost at school, he locks up the gates.
Or goes up and back.
We've got the keys to lock up the school.
Right.
That's who I am.
Does Father Paul hurt the girls or the boys?
The girls. He likes the girls.
He likes... He doesn't like boys.
Well, he does like boys.
But he doesn't like as much as a girl's...
[loud crash]
...eager to scream at them, because there's more girls liking it.
Right.
That's who he is.
Quite bizarre.
[gulps]
Here's Mommy. Let's go and see Mommy.
[loud crash]
[grunts]
[loud crash]
[loud
crash]
Can I have a picture?
You can have that. That was nice.
Can I have another one?
No, that's enough for me. Thank you.
Yeah, so Gabriel was telling me that the whole school is a moment.
Yes. Old school, yes.
Older teacher.
Oh, there's a place as well.
What's the name of the place?
One is Gorday Williams.
There's that.
And there's one with Simon Pinson.
And there's one with Alice Singleton.
Or Singleton.
Are they from Hampstead Police Station?
Yes.
Let me get sorted out.
You say there's priests involved?
Yes.
What was the name of the priest?
Father Paul.
Father Paul. And it was Christchurch?
Yes.
Hampstead?
Yes, Hampstead.
Go forward a bit.
You were saying that the women are the worst?
They hope to be the most?
Yes, they're one of the worst priests.
The priest is the one of the worst?
Yes, he's the worst.
But the women, did you say that the women?
Yes, the women are the worst.
They're pretty bad.
They're a man, not so bad, but...
And my father, as I said.
He told the solicitor, I suggest him,
well, I'm not suggesting, I'm telling him,
that my father, or Bardee, Richardian,
he wants to go, he wants to take me and Gabriel
this Saturday, overnight, to Sunday to Sheffield.
It's not going to happen.
And my mother's not letting it happen.
No, neither's the rest of it, don't worry.
It's not going to happen.
Mad stuff, isn't it?
I knew you were suffering from this
from the time you were a little child.
Sorry?
You were suffering from this from when you were a baby?
Yes, since we were babies.
So it's been going that long, I get it.
And you're still not old as that?
I'd be doing it no more.
Because then you were still, right now he's 44,
which is not what you asked.
He's 44 right now.
Yeah.
So how many more years is this?
Well, he's been doing it since...
How old are you?
I'm nine.
Yeah, and your brother's eight?
Yes.
So how long has he been doing it?
He's been doing it for...
30 years?
No.
No, since he was 35?
No, no, 35 is doing it when he was much younger than that.
So he was doing it before you were around then?
Yeah.
Oh, see what you mean.
See what you mean.
Even before me.
Do you realise that this is called generational?
That means that it's in the family.
There's something wrong with his family.
Yes, his mother does it.
Gabriel was saying that his mother's...
That's Sheffield, that's where his mother lives and his grandmother lives.
But his mother's in the Kittyfordland too?
Yes.
Oh, God.
This is the children of the group.
So it's a group of people.
Sorry?
We never believed that there was groups of these people around.
We never believed that this thing...
You know?
Before when you even didn't know this.
Do what?
Before you didn't know this thing.
We didn't know that.
We didn't.
People told us that it was going on, but we never believed them.
Oh.
We never thought that there would be monsters like that.
Do you know that?
Babies.
Killing babies.
And they do kill babies, don't they?
And what else do they do?
Eject.
Why would they do such a thing?
Sick.
Sick people.
They're not human.
They're not human.
Oh, you're OK now.
You're worth a few months.
They're planning for me and my mum to go to Morocco or to Marrakesh.
Right.
Like from Morocco, then to Russia, where my grandparents are.
OK.
You'd be sick.
Not only my father's grandparents, my mum's.
Your mum's grandparents, yeah.
They're the good guys.

They're the good guys.

They're the good guys.

They're the good guys.

East Finchley is a swimming pool.
The whole East Finchley does it.
The sex, eating baby, and there's McDonald's in there.
There's also Starbucks inside.

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Okay, so...
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Can I have a seat? Yep.
Okay. What do the changing rooms look like?
The room is like a tiny bit smaller than this room.
The room is like a tiny bit smaller than this room.
Okay, so there's a tiny bit smaller than that.
This room, right before...
Here, that, and that room.
How many people can go in this room?
Well, there can go like five people.
Okay, and is it one where it's got like a little door and it's got room for yourself, or is it where everyone gets changed?
It's only a room for like those five people.
There's other rooms that just stay.
So you, your sister and your papa get changed? Yes.
You put your swimming coach on? Yes.
And then what happens? We go for a swim, then we go to eat where we're not supposed to eat.
Okay, so you go for your swim. Yeah, but he also buys us lollipops.
Are you? Yeah, but my mum said sugar is not much bad for you.
So you go for your swim. So where does the sex happen?
In the changing room and also in the toilets.
There's disabled toilets. In the disabled toilet. Yeah.
And who does that? My dad, my dad's friends. Your dad and your dad's friends?
Okay, so tell me about one of the times you can remember a swimming pool when this happened.
Lots of times. Is there one that you remember best?
No, I don't like them. I don't like them, no.
No, I mean, sorry, what I mean is that in your mind, one of the times that it happened there,
that you can remember more clearly. Yeah.
Is there, tell me about that time then. Yeah, I remember more clearly. Go on, tell me about it.
Do you know how you swim? And also we did a race, me, my dad and my sister.
My dad was first. Yeah. But I did a trick. Go on.
I like dived, like swam like that and I went faster.
It's faster than swimming. Yeah, I would die, yeah definitely.
Not like diving, jumping, it's like this. But diving across.
Then I go like this, then I turn like that and I'm faster and then I was faster.
Then my sister copied me. Did she come back to you? No, she didn't.
She became just what I was. So...
Depends how much you do it. If you do it twice, go like right in the front.
Okay, so who have dad's friends come? Who was there?
The man, yeah my teachers. Should I tell the name of my teachers?
What teachers were they swimming for? My head teacher.
So your head teacher wasn't swimming for? Yeah, my teacher, my late normal teacher.
My class teacher. I can see your class teacher was there.
Yeah, and my assistant. Who's that?
My assistant teacher. Okay, so what did they do?
So to help her, like, if I was a teacher, I would ask, if I knew I was an assistant teacher,
I would ask, can you print some of the worksheets to do?
Or you can help them. They say, how do you spell this?
They'll tell you. And if they say, can you draw me a picture like a house,
like a 3D house, they'll draw it for you to help you.
Okay, so you're swimming, you're playing, you're doing races.
So you said your head teacher was there, what's her name?
Mrs. Forstike. But her first name is Kate.
So Kate Forstike. Yeah, she has a sister, and it's Mrs. Ungwin,
but her real name is Kate too. Kate Ungwin?
Yeah, really. Yeah, she's like, Kate Ungwin, she's in the school too,
and she's like the second head teacher. She's like that.
Okay, so who was at the swim pool? Kate Ungwin? Yeah.
Sorry, Kate Forstike, sorry. Kate Forstike, Kate Ungwin.
There was... My sister teacher's name is... I forgot the man's name,
because I haven't seen her for a long time.
Your grandmum's? Yeah, but I don't remember her name.
But I know Miss Clover. Miss Clover was there?
Yeah, she's a lady. Okay.
And I also remember Miss Reese, she's a Greek.
Miss Reese? Yeah. Okay.
She's my sister's assistant teacher. Okay.
And when did you start going to this school?
When I was five years old. But this happened when you were four,
so how did they know? And how did you know that...
They met before, my dad and all the teachers were friends even before I went to this school.
How? Like Miss Wilma, she's in your one teacher.
When I was in your one, she was my teacher.
But how did you know that before you went to this school?
They met somehow, but I don't know how, I wasn't there.
But then Miss Wilma introduced Mrs. Forstike, like her husband called Miss Wilma,
when they met they became best friends, they became really close friends.
Then Miss Wilma introduced Papa, I mean Miss Wilma introduced Mr. Hollings,
they are four teacher of my sister, they are four teacher to Papa.
And then Miss Wilma went over to Mr. Hollings and told Mr. Hollings about Papa,
then they met and they introduced each other.
Miss Wilma told Papa...
This was all before you went to that school?
Yes, so when Miss Wilma and Papa were friends, Miss Wilma told Papa about Miss Hollings,
then Miss Wilma told Mr. Hollings about Papa, and then they met each other,
then they were best friends, and then Mr. Hollings told Papa about Mrs. Forstike.
I hate interrupting people, it's just you speak so quickly, it's hard for me,
my brain is too slow for your mouth, is that alright?
So Mrs. Clover was the year one teacher...
No, no, Miss Wilma.
So Miss Wilma is the year one teacher at what school?
Of Christchurch School.
Of Christchurch School?
Clovers.
Of Christchurch, and she knew your Papa?
Yes.
Is that right?
So how did she know your Papa?
They met somehow when I wasn't there, they met.
OK, and how did you know they'd become friends?
Because they talked to each other, my dad told me to,
then Miss Wilma and Papa told me about Miss Wilma, then me and Papa...
What did he tell you about Miss Wolf?
She's my best friend, she's my close friend, she's really nice,
and also Miss Wilma's really nice, she gives out lots of sweets.
Does she?
Yeah, she's an expert at how to do pancakes.
Is she an expert in pancakes?
Yeah.
Then she feeds me what I'm not supposed to have.
So Mrs. Wilma introduced Papa to the other teachers...
Yeah, and then...
And then you said one teacher at the end became friends with your Papa.
What teacher was that?
The end one, yeah.
The end one was not Mrs. Frostyke...
No.
It was...
Mrs. Cummings said Papa.
It was Mrs. Parsons.
Mrs. Parsons is the last one to know Papa.
There's a lot of people who know Papa at the school.
Not all.
All the teachers know him.
And they all met because of the year one teacher.
Yes.
Who's friends with your Papa?
Yeah.
Okay.
And a lot of these teachers were at the...
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
And also the parents are involved too, touching and sex.
Do you mind if we just take just a little bit at a time?
Because as I said, you go too quickly for me.
Okay.
So you're at the swimming pool.
These people are there who are your Papa's friends.
And then you said sex happens.
What does that mean?
In a willy, there's a plastic willy on my bottom.
Okay.
And then it bleeds.
Okay.
Where does that happen at the swimming pool?
At the disabled toilet.
And they have McDonald's there.
And there's a man called Frank.
Yeah, and he's the boss of McDonald's.
He's the staff.
Okay.
So at the swimming pool...
Yeah.
So you say they put plastic willies in your bum.
Yeah.
Where do they get these plastic willies from if they're swimming?
They buy them.
They buy them.
Okay.
So they bought them.
They're swimming.
You're doing races with your Papa.
Yeah.
So how have you got from doing a race with your Papa to then having sex, doing sex?
How do you get...
So you're swimming.
Yeah.
You've done your dive.
You've done your special thing.
They take me to the disabled toilet.
So who's taking you to the disabled toilet?
My dad, the teachers, for the disabled toilet.
It's like ginormous.
It's even bigger than the school.
So there's big disabled toilets.
Yeah.
And how do you get from the swimming pool to the disabled toilets?
They get out of the swimming pool.
It's the disabled toilets where all the toilets are.
Yeah.
Like the boys' toilet, the women's toilet.
Yeah.
Okay.
And also my dad kills babies.
Okay.
So you've got to the disabled toilets.
And who's in the disabled toilets?
The teachers, the parents, my dad.
Okay.
Yeah.
So how many people are in the disabled toilet?
Lots.
How many is lots?
Like not all teachers, no.
Okay.
They can't fit all the teachers.
So how many people are in the disabled toilet?
Like maybe a quarter of the teachers, quarter.
And how many is that?
Like there's 30 teachers, so it might be, no, it's 10 teachers.
About 10 teachers, okay.
And your papa?
Yeah.
Anyone else?
Parents.
Some parents.
13 parents.
So there's over 20 people in this toilet, is there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also the, my dad kills babies.
Okay.
And he forces me to help him.
Okay.
We'll talk about that.
I just want to talk about it.
So there's you, your papa, 10 of the teachers.
Yeah.
So 13 parents.
Okay.
So what parents are they?
My best friend's parents.
Okay.
And my worst friend's parents.
Your best friends and your worst friend's parents.
So.
Should I tell you the names?
Yeah, tell me the worst friend's parents.
Galina, she's in, I mean, Galina.
Galina.
Yeah, she's, she's your friend.
Not different Galina to your?
No, yeah.
Different Galina.
Different.
Okay.
There's Galina there.
Yeah, she has a son called James and he's my worst friend.
Okay.
He hurts me, he fights a lot.
Okay, so Galina was there.
What about these other, these other parents, the other, the other 12?
Who are they?
They're my worst friend's parents.
Who?
What are their names?
No, I don't remember them, the sort of those two names.
There's only three, I've only got three worst friends in my class.
Okay.
So tell me the names of the children whose parents were there.
Carton, no, Carton, he's my best friend.
He's not my worst friend.
Marco, he's a, he's a nurse.
He's a, he's a Serbian.
Was Marco's parents there?
Yeah, he's Serbian, do you know Serbia?
Yeah, I do, yeah.
Yeah, he's Serbian, but Luca, he's Russian.
Yeah, I don't know where his dad is from.
Go on.
Yeah, he's from Moscow.
Okay.
Yeah, but the mum is from Turkey.
Okay.
So Luca's parents were there.
Yeah.
Who else?
Galina, she's Ukrainian.
Yeah, Galina, James, she has a son and he's my worst friend.
Okay, so that's two, Luca's parents there?
Yeah, Marco, Luca, and James is my worst friend.
James was there.
Yeah, there's only three worst friends.
And who else's parents were there?
My best friends.
And there's only three worst friends.
Who are they?
Vanessa.
Vanessa, that's a name of a clerk, I've got a boy called Clark and he's my best friend.
Okay, so was it her mum or dad?
I don't know the dad, but I know the mum.
Right, so the mum was there, what about the dad?
Yeah, the mum and dad was there, but I don't remember dad's name, but I know the one, the...
But they haven't broken up, but Vanessa's the mother.
And who else?
She's from South Africa, she's a white South African.
White South African.
And who else was there then, who else's parents?
Max.
Max?
I don't know where Max is from, he might be from Germany, he told me I was from Germany.
Okay, was it Max's mum, dad or both?
Yeah.
Mum, dad or both?
Both.
Both, okay.
Anyone else?
Yeah, who?
Cartney.
Cartney, he's Portuguese.
Cartney, he's Portuguese.
Mum, dad or both?
Both.
Okay, any others?
Yeah.
Who?
Natasha, she's my worst friend.
Okay, was that her mum or dad or both?
The leaning girl, she's the leaning girl.
Yeah, her mum, dad or both?
Yeah, both, and she's Polish.
She's Polish.
Yeah.
Anyone else?
Yeah.
Okay, so who was the mother?
Yeah, her mum, dad or both?
Yeah, both, and she's Polish.
She's Polish.
Yeah.
Anyone else?
Yeah, well, Hannah and Poppy.
Remember, we're only talking about in a disabled toilet, yeah.
Yeah, Hannah and Poppy.
Hannah and Poppy, they're best friends.
And was Hannah and Poppy's mum, dad or both?
Both.
And Hannah and Poppy, no, Hannah and Poppy are not sisters, they're not, they're other
people, they're just best friends, really, so she's not.
So Poppy, I know what I think, she's really like, her, like, she's like, she, I don't
know where she's from, but she looks from Holland, she looks like she's from Holland.
She looks like, don't know that.
Holland, not Poland, Holland.
Oh, Holland.
Holland.
Okay.
She looks really like it.
Okay, okay.
Really like, the way she looks like.
She might be Dutch.
She's got white hair, like, yeah, like, one girl in Holland have white hair.
Okay, so any others?
Hannah, I don't know where, Hannah, I don't know where she's from, but she's Jewish.
Okay, and were her parents there?
Yeah, both.
Mum, both?
Both.
Yeah, and Hannah and Poppy's parents, both.
Poppy's parents, okay, so that's, okay, so, and how can you remember all of these parents?
I can remember.
I know all my, I know all the people from my class.
But you wasn't going to that school when it happened, were you?
You said it happened when you were four.
No, yeah, it happened when I was four, it happened at school too.
Yeah, I know, but so, you remember, how do you remember all these people?
No.
You know that it was their parents when you were four, before you went to that school,
how do you know that?
Because I knew the parents.
But you didn't know them, because you didn't go to that school, did you?
No.
So how did you know then?
The parents, because the teachers had also parents.
But you didn't know the teachers then, did you?
I didn't know the teachers then.
Because you didn't go to that school?
No.
No, but the teachers, that time they worked in a different school, not in Christchurch.
But some of them work, some of them work in Christchurch.
Where do they work when you do them?
Some of them work in New End, some of them, do you know who New End?
These teachers, so Mrs. Forstoyke?
No, not all.
Mrs. Clover?
No, some of the teachers were actually working in Christchurch school.
But you didn't go to what, sorry, it's probably mindful,
it's just I want to make sure I really understand it, and that's all it is.
So I understand there was, so there was ten, we counted them,
there was ten children's parents.
There's even more.
Yeah.
In the disabled toilet.
No, no, no, yeah, no, no, there's what, no, there's some more.
In the disabled toilet?
No, there's three more.
Remember we're only talking about the disabled toilet.
Yeah, remember there's only three more parents.
Remember there was 13 parents.
13 parents.
But there's actually more parents in the outside.
But there's ten children, you said, but all of them, my mum and dad was there.
So it's 20 people, isn't it?
Yeah.
So all I want to understand is that have you met, before that day,
in the disabled toilet, had you ever met these people?
Yeah.
Where did you meet them?
I met them at O2 Centre, but when my dad knew them already.
When you were four.
So why did you meet them at the O2 Centre?
I met them there because my dad told them to come there for me to meet them.
My dad told them to come to O2 Centre, so I met them there.
My dad took me.
So you met them before in the O2 Centre.
So in this disabled toilet there was the 20 parents, the ten teachers,
your papa, you, what about your sister, where was she?
She was two.
She was in there too.
And...
Also there were children there.
There were children there as well, how many children?
Not much, like different amounts.
And also there's also different amounts every time of the parents and adults.
These people, were they all in the toilet at the same time?
Yeah.
OK, so there's some other children, what other children were there?
There were children, their children.
All of them or some of them or what?
Some of them.
How many?
Some of them, not all.
How many on this time you're telling me about, how many were there?
There were 14.
14 children.
So 20 parents.
But the other children were with the other parents outside.
Outside of the disabled toilet.
As well as, you mean some of the...
Still swimming.
Still swimming.
Were they people you knew or just people you used in the swimming pool?
They were people we knew.
OK, so in the swimming pool, in the disabled toilet there's 20 parents, 14 children, 10 teachers, your papa, you and your sister.
And you were all in the disabled toilet at the same time?
Yes.
When you say the disabled toilet, what does this disabled toilet look like?
There's a toilet, there's a lucky hand wash, and there's a lucky hand dryer, and there's also an alarm.
And that's it.
It's like a normal disabled toilet.
OK, so you're all in there, and then what's happened when you're in there?
They do sex to us.
And how does it start?
What happened the first time?
They touch us, they do, they just do the clappings, the clapper, they're wearing the mud bottle, they kick our privates.
OK, so you're all in the room, so you've got in the room, so the first time it's happened, what did you think was going on?
The first time ever happened? No, no. Well, they'll do sex to me since I was one year old.
OK.
So they'll start doing sex to me.
OK.
Yeah.
And how do you know that?
I, like my sister told me.
Oh, OK.
She remembers, she got really good memory, really good.
Has she? OK, well I'll ask her about that.
She got really good memory.
When do you remember from?
I remember from one year old too.
You can remember from when you were, wow.
Yeah, and I also see a picture.
A picture, what picture?
My dad's, my dad has like pictures of me naked and doing sex to me when I was one year old. OK. On his computer he has like a photograph from like, he keeps them, like photographs.
OK. So you're all in this toilet, and then how's it started, who's done the sex to you?
My dad teaches the parents.
All of them? Yeah.
And what have they done?
They've placed a wheelie in my bottom, they lick up privates.
OK, so how's it started? Well I don't understand it. You got in there, what happened first?
They touched us and they do sex.
Who's that, who did it?
My dad and his parents.
They touched you, what does that mean, touched you?
They touch our privates.
What do they do by touching it, what do they do?
They squeeze it, do you know the white stuff on your wheelie, like the rubbing and the white stuff coming off.
Right.
And they do it like that twice.
What do you mean, they do it, what does that mean?
Like to boys, do you know they have white stuff?
Right, yeah.
Now whenever you put the white stuff in girls' privates, they create a baby.
So who's white stuff?
Mine, the boys, boys only have the white stuff, girls don't have it.
So you had white stuff did you, when you were four years old?
Yeah, no even when I'm white now I've got white stuff.
Have you?
Yeah, you have to rub it until it goes out.
OK, and how do you know that?
My dad done it to me, it won't come out itself.
No?
It's rubbed.
So you can't do it yourself?
I can do it myself, I can rub it and it'll come out.
OK.
And it's really dangerous, my mum told me never put it in girls' privates because if I take the white stuff and put it in water, and if I put it in my sister's privates she'll create a baby.
OK.
Yeah but the baby will be like, it'll have a problem, it might be blind, it might be walking like this, it might be keep falling.
And how do you know that?
My mum told me and the baby might be blind, it might be deaf, it might not have an arm because your children are my brothers and sisters.
OK, and who told you that?
My mum.
OK.
And so this white stuff, you said it looks like water, right tell me more about this white stuff, what does it feel like?
Just like it feels like rain.
It feels like rain?
Yeah.
And is it, what else about it can you tell me?
It's like a seed.
OK.
So it's a seed, it's like rain.
Yeah like little seeds inside.
Is it?
And it's really small, you have to have a mind construct to see it.
OK, is it, how thick is it, is it less thick than water, as thick as water or more thick than water?
Just like wheat.
Just like wheat?
Yeah a tiny bit thicker.
A tiny bit thicker than wheat?
Yeah.
OK, and is it, say you've got it on you, how would you get it off?
So you rub my willy and then you like hold it and then the white stuff comes out, then if I put it in, well...
So when it comes out your hands, what do you do with it then?
If I put it on my sister's private and put it on her wee and the seeds, do you know what they create? They create babies.
Right OK, so let's just talk about what you did then. So these people are in this row.
Yeah but I never put the white stuff near my sister, I never put it in her private.
OK good, that's a good thing to know.
If she had, then she would have a baby and it might be blind, it might be deaf, it might have like, it might have no teeth.
It might do?
Yeah and it might have a chopped arm, it might have like an arm and it might be grown like this and it doesn't have no arm.
OK, right so these people, they've played with your willy, this white stuff's come out and you've got it in your hands, what have you done with it then?
They've put it out, just put it in the toilet.
Who did?
They put it, they put it in my dad's.
Who are they? But it's gone into your hands?
Yeah.
It's gone into your hands?
Yeah but they tell me to put it in the toilet.
Right and is there anything left on your hands when you've just gone like that?
Yes there's some drops, little drops.
Little drops?
And then some seeds.
So you just, and how much comes out?
Yeah like tiny seeds, you won't see them so you have to wash them.
OK, is it sticky?
Yeah but no it's not sticky but when the seeds are on you have to wash your hands for sure.
And how much of this white stuff comes out of your willy?
Lots.
OK.
Yeah and also what?
If you could fill something up, tell me what size thing you could fill up.
Like you can fill up half of a bottle.
What size bottle?
You're saying a normal like this big bottle, it's not like those fat ones, it's like this one, and those.
What would you keep in a bottle like that big?
The white stuff.
OK, so in how many goes of them rubbing your willy does it take to fill up half a bottle?
Twice.
Twice?
Yeah.
So you can fill up half a bottle twice?
Yeah.
OK.
Something's more.
OK what does it feel like when this white stuff comes out?
It just feels like weak.
And how does your body feel when it comes out?
Like your willy, it's also bad because your willy takes all your energy away.
I feel like no more energy, I feel really tired after that, I feel like no energy.
OK.
And that's how my dad makes me weak.
OK.
He makes me weak so I can't have it. And he also steps on my foot and puts all his weight on.
OK.
It really hurts.
OK.
He steps on my foot and puts all his weight on and it really hurts.
OK.
So that happens, and then what about your sister, what happens to her while this is going on?
Yeah and also you have to wash your hands after the white stuff.
Why is that?
Because the seeds are on your hand but you can't see them yet to have a mind construct.
So you have the seeds on your hand, so if I have it and I put it on my sister she might
then have the seeds and I will still have the seeds like multiply if I touch something.
How do you know that's a different thing to wave when it comes out your willy?
How do you know it's different?
My mum told me about it and she told me never put it near your sister's hand.
Oh OK.
When you were there, when you were there, you said the plan of your willy, how did you
know it wasn't wee?
What was different to it?
It wasn't yellow.
It wasn't yellow.
But it was only white, never was yellow.
OK.
So it's white and it wasn't yellow so you know it wasn't wee.
It's never yellow.
It looks like wee.
No.
No?
No.
It's not yellow.