Thrive With Rob And Jason | Matt Tuggle & Lance Williams | October 2 2025 | Abundant TV

Scaling Kingdom Impact: Matt Tuggle & Lance Williams Lead Disruptive Innovation at Convergence Solutions

In a world where speed, systems, and spiritual alignment must converge, today’s episode of Thrive with Rob and Jasonfeatured two leaders doing just that: Matt Tuggle and Lance Williams. With decades of marketplace experience, both men are driving faith-driven innovation through Convergence Solutions and broader Kingdom ventures. Their stories and strategy are a masterclass in how to build with purpose, integrity, and vision.
From Sales Leader to Systems Architect: Matt Tuggle’s Journey

Matt Tuggle is the Founder & CEO of Convergence Solutions, a company at the intersection of scalable operations, revenue growth, and AI-powered systems. With over 20 years in sales leadership, recruitment, and go-to-market (GTM) strategy, Matt brings a powerhouse of experience to the table. Early in his career, he became ADT’s youngest-ever Regional Director, breaking records through drive and strategic execution.

At Convergence Solutions, Matt now leads teams that build the infrastructure businesses need to scale revenue and operations seamlessly. The company’s work emphasizes streamlined systems, tech-forward solutions, and value-driven leadership. Their partner site HumanOperated.org (as you referenced) aligns with this ethos—though it requires more clarity on mission, the name suggests focus on people-powered systems and safeguarding operations against threats.

Matt’s ability to navigate both the big-picture vision and the nuts-and-bolts execution makes him a rare leader in the faith-driven tech space. His presence on the show reminded us: God calls people to build—systems, businesses, legacies—that last.
Lance Williams: From South Africa to Kingdom Marketplace Leader

Lance Williams brings a rich and diverse background to the conversation. Born in South Africa and now settled in North San Diego County, Lance has built bridges between ministry and marketplace for over 25 years. He’s pastored for 15 of those years, while also operating in blue-collar, corporate, and entrepreneurial spheres.

Lance runs 3 Trees Accounting & Bookkeeping, co-partners with Matt at Convergence Solutions, and authored a workbook for men called Kings, Priests, Warriors, and Shepherds, targeted at those who grew up without strong father figures. He knows that building Kingdom culture often begins in the small, hidden, essential roles—like finance, mentorship, and relational leadership.

His farm in San Diego is more than a home—it’s a metaphor for the fertile ground God uses leaders to cultivate. When Lance speaks, you hear the weight of experience, the humility of a servant, and the clarity of a man who’s lived kingdom integration in work and worship.
Key Themes from Today’s Show: Where Faith, Force & Function Merge

Building with Purpose and Systems
Matt and Lance drilled into how the right systems, structure, and alignment allow faith-led businesses to scale without falling into chaos or burnout.

Marketplace as Ministry
Both reinforced that the marketplace isn’t separate from God’s mission—it’s where He calls many of us to serve. Accounting, tech, operations—every role matters in God’s economy.

Legacy Over Lifestyle
Lance’s workbook and life message speaks to the men who long for legacy—how to live believing your life’s work instills generational impact, not just short-term success.

Tech That Honors Humanity
In a digital age where automation, AI, and “human-operated” systems compete with heart, Convergence is creating solutions that honor human dignity, stewardship, and Kingdom purpose.

Partnership and Collaboration
The dynamic between Matt and Lance shows how co-leadership, mutual respect, and shared vision amplify effectiveness. No one builds alone.

Resilience Rooted in Faith
From record-breaking sales to pastoral hardship, both spoke about the storms they’ve weathered—and how they leaned on God first, strategy second.