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Rebecca Roberts: I did hit the record button, anyway. We just started, we did the Bivens, and we're beginning. It's Jural Assembly, September 24th, just for the notes. Okay, so we're talking about if…

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Rebecca Roberts: If leaders in our…

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Rebecca Roberts: assemblies and federation say that they want to pay the criminals for something they've stolen to get it back. We're talking about if that… how that is wrong.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we just had a little conversation about, yeah, it's a crime. No, why would we pay criminals who stole something?

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Rebecca Roberts: To get what is ours back.

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Rebecca Roberts: And so, we begin… In the middle of the problem.

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Rebecca Roberts: We begin with, who are we? And we've talked about this a few times, we're sovereign. What does that even mean? We have delegating authority.

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Rebecca Roberts: We are the only ones, the living men and women, who can own land and soil.

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Rebecca Roberts: Who can own the land and soil? The living men and women. Are corporations living men and women?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Instead…

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Rebecca Roberts: No.

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Rebecca Roberts: Can corporations charge tax for sovereigns to own outright their own property?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: May I…

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Holy…

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Rebecca Roberts: No!

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Go ahead.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I just want to add that this is for Americans on American soil. We don't, number one, allow foreigners to own our land and soil, so let's start right there. They're foreign.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're coming to that, but yes, they are foreign, they're foreign. We have expatriated.

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Rebecca Roberts: We all here are expatriated from the British.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Thank you.

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Rebecca Roberts: With the birth certificate.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But the corporations can own it, not on America. We're just… I just want to clarify that. I yield.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: May I?

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Mike.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yeah, as you said, we did expatriate from the false presumptions of us being a U.S.capital C citizen, which is a person, aka a corporation. And corporations and U.S. citizens cannot own land.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: So that's why we expatriated, but again, U.S. citizens are foreign as well, so that's another reason why they can't own land, just like corporations.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Oh, I'll yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: No, very good, but you leave a question unanswered. What is a U.S. citizen? Is it a corporation or a man?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: It's a corpse, it's a dead, dead, fictitious entity.

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Rebecca Roberts: Exactly, so…

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Rebecca Roberts: Yes, thank you very much for that clarity, Mike. And we can… and also Neeti, we can definitely…

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Rebecca Roberts: Stick to the basics and comprehend a lot more than people who are running to give these criminals money to get back what belongs to a sovereign already. So, Doug on…

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Rebecca Roberts: California is teaching us law, and you got… I think you got the recording, because I… I, allowed that… I… I…

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Rebecca Roberts: proliferated that. And, you can listen to that teaching, and he was very clear about

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Rebecca Roberts: What we are fighting with Ana is they have no jurisdiction. We're not fighting, necessarily, the taxes, we're not fighting any of these things people are talking about. We are fighting the fact they have no delegating power, they are not sovereign, and we are

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Rebecca Roberts: The owner of the land can only be a living being.

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Rebecca Roberts: Doesn't that make sense? The land and soil is a living part of the Earth.

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Rebecca Roberts: And a corporation, which is a piece of paper, can never, ever own a living thing. Never. It doesn't even… you can't comprehend. A piece of paper cannot own

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Rebecca Roberts: A living tree, with grass, with soil, with land, with diamonds underneath.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, a piece of paper can't possibly… it has no way of being able to be an owner and caretaker of land and soil. This makes total sense, it's natural law. So, therefore, we are in a comprehension of what's happening with Anna is all about… she is sovereign.

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Rebecca Roberts: And these usurpers Are not even living.

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Rebecca Roberts: They are corporate, Things that drive around in cop cars.

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Rebecca Roberts: They are corporate things, all of it, including the entire Alaskan government, municipal, territorial, and all of the companies that are associated with this fraud.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're not gonna put up with this anymore, and we don't need to understand all of their machinations. All we need to comprehend is.

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Rebecca Roberts: Sovereign jurisdiction, That's it. You're living, you are an owner.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, let's go to some of the things that, they were talking about there. And I'm not gonna show anyone up, even if they listen to our recording. That's fine, they can.

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Rebecca Roberts: They want to recoup the taxes? No.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's about redemption.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so, I'm not gonna say who's who, but Doug is great for having brought clarity to us all, and I'm gonna go through a couple of cases. If you'd like to look at the document, you can, but here we go. There is no government, and Chisholm

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Rebecca Roberts: versus Georgia, 1793.

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Rebecca Roberts: State, quotation marks. State government should be bound by the Constitution.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: Close quotes.

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Rebecca Roberts: Another one, in the Constitution, Article 6, Clause 2, Judges!

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Rebecca Roberts: will be bound by the Constitution.

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Rebecca Roberts: In Cruden v. Neal, this is a beautiful North Carolinian case. Don't know the year. I can look it up if anyone's interested. Quotation marks from this case. Sovereign delegation

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Rebecca Roberts: is only by consent.

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Rebecca Roberts: What is your greatest power, Sovereign?

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Rebecca Roberts: Consent.

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Rebecca Roberts: The greatest power is consent or not consent.

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Rebecca Roberts: Do not throw it away. Do not be silent, because silence is consent. And if you really don't know, or don't agree, or aren't sure, don't be silent.

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Rebecca Roberts: You say, I don't consent until I can have time to comprehend this. No. This is not a contract. I'm not consenting to having my sovereign delegation taken from me. Do you think Anna did that? No, she didn't. And no one did who had their houses taken from me. They don't consent.

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Rebecca Roberts: To having their sovereign delegation taken from them, so they can have someone make decisions for them.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then there's another case, Cohen's v. Virginia, which I really wanted to tell you, because I had it…

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Rebecca Roberts: And then I had to change my little thing here.

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Rebecca Roberts: Cones vs. Virginia.

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Rebecca Roberts: Is this it?

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, yeah. We have… No more right to decline the exercise of jurisdiction

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Rebecca Roberts: Which is given than to usurp that which is not given.

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Rebecca Roberts: The one or other would be treason to the Constitution. I'll read it again. We have no more right to decline the exercise of jurisdiction which is given than to usurp that which is not given. So that's like saying, my rights end where yours begin.

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Rebecca Roberts: And also some more things. But it's about jurisdiction in the realms of rights and freedoms. And with any

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Rebecca Roberts: Right. And you all know this.

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Rebecca Roberts: You have responsibility.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? Every right is a responsibility.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, let me just go through this for a sec, unless anybody has any questions.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, here we go. Here's the government over here.

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Rebecca Roberts: the corporate government, and here's the sovereign. What obligation does the sovereign have

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Rebecca Roberts: to a lawful state… oh, sorry, or a lawful state person have to recognize

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Rebecca Roberts: What obligation do they have to recognize or be subject to

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Rebecca Roberts: The utterances of the alleged agents.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's a question. What is your obligation

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Rebecca Roberts: To recognize or be subject to.

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Rebecca Roberts: the utterances of these alleged agents. That's a question on the table right now, I yield.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Contracts.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, say you don't have a contract.

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Rebecca Roberts: What obligation do you have?

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Rebecca Roberts: to recognize alleged agents.

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Rebecca Roberts: Zero.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: They shouldn't even be talking to you.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: We're addressing.

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Rebecca Roberts: Zero.

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Rebecca Roberts: We have no obligation to the agents to listen to them, Or be subject to them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Any attempt to do so Cohen vs. Virginia.

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Rebecca Roberts: is a… is not a crime, so if you do listen to them, it is not a crime, but you do not have to. That's in the case. Alright, let's begin with, also.

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Rebecca Roberts: What's happening in the world right now is everyone is in the Truman Show.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, maybe we aren't, but a lot of people are in the Truman Show.

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Rebecca Roberts: And it's kind of fake, right? Well, it is fake. It's a show. And they're enthralled!

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Rebecca Roberts: That is what we have to recognize is going on right now.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because, like I said, with rights, we have responsibilities, and our…

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Rebecca Roberts: One most important responsibility is to Report crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: Our responsibility is to report crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: If anyone here knows of a crime, and you all know because your birth certificate is a crime right there.

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Rebecca Roberts: Have you reported it?

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Rebecca Roberts: It's your… that is a responsibility that you have.

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Rebecca Roberts: With the rights that you have as a sovereign.

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Rebecca Roberts: We've got to report the crime, people.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: They are not our government, they are committing crimes, and we have all grown up on The Truman Show. The truth is that they are not sovereign, and we are.

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Rebecca Roberts: Every argument In the criminal realm, to… Force their criminality upon us.

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Rebecca Roberts: Are dissolved with this one argument about You are sovereign, And you have jurisdiction.

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Rebecca Roberts: You do not consent?

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Rebecca Roberts: And you have to report crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: you are obliged, because now you have rights. Now you're a responsible sovereign, you must report crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: They have no authority or capacity

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Rebecca Roberts: To assume any authority over you.

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Rebecca Roberts: a sovereign.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so… If there's a U.S. government, and they're…

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Rebecca Roberts: There's these arrows toward the sovereigns, and they're… usurping upon Our rights?

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Rebecca Roberts: What is our obligation?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Report the crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's right!

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Rebecca Roberts: Does anybody need any more… Around comprehending this.

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Jeanne Scott: How… and when you say report the crime, what does that mean exactly? What would you do? How do you report the crime? By giving them notice or something?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Well, it happened to me when I was pulled over, last week, and then pulled out of my car, and then gave… was given a ticket.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Even though it was an emergency purpose, the taillights were out, I was given a ticket. Still, that was a usurpation upon my sovereignty.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: pulled me out of the car. If they would have pulled me maybe 5… 5 feet away from my car, I would have been pulled out of my jurisdiction. And they… they're basically, kidnapping me at that point.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: They're bringing the water jurisdiction on the land, and I'm the land, they're the water. So that's a crime that's, called,

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Press ganging, which has been outlawed for quite some time.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: So, that was a crime right there. So, with, responding within the 72-hour rule, I had my, list of,

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: what is it called? It's dumped on my mind right now, I'm sorry. There's a list that goes down that basically reports the crime of everything that's been

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Done to me.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: And, oh yeah, the, the time, the timesheet, the.

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Nancy Goldstein: reschedule.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: fee schedule, thank you.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I have a brain fart, sorry. But yes, that… that right there basically is a list of all the different crimes that are against you, what they have done to you. So, I would have… I should have never been pulled out of the car, but…

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I was being cooperative because I just didn't… they had a gun, and I didn't, so I couldn't protect myself, whatever, but anyway,

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: That, in a nutshell, right there is a crime. So, it was reported, and, it was done, so that's an example for you right there. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you, Mike.

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Rebecca Roberts: So I just shared on the screen, the work that Doug had done for Ana.

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Rebecca Roberts: And it is called Criminal Information for Void Delegation of Authority.

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Nancy Goldstein: We don't see it.

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Rebecca Roberts: You don't see it? Okay, great.

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Rebecca Roberts: Am I sharing?

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Rebecca Roberts: No.

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Nancy Goldstein: No.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Don't see it yet.

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Rebecca Roberts: Share. Screen.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, start… I have to hit start broadcast. Okay, got it.

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Rebecca Roberts: And all this? There we go. Can you see that?

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Nancy Goldstein: There we go. Okay.

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Rebecca Roberts: Right.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, you have to hit all these buttons to get it to work. Okay. All right,

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Rebecca Roberts: So, there's a little bit more here, but this… really, have in the back of your mind that the people are the inheritors.

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Rebecca Roberts: Those are… they're the sovereigns, the people are the sovereigns. As Neeti described about, the bell shares, giving sovereignty, etc, last night, creators equal sovereign, okay? We are the creators, and we create.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright? So this is what… this is the new argument that we're… that we're presenting.

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Rebecca Roberts: Which dissolves all of the other arguments, because it's based on sovereignty.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, basically, that's what void delegation of authority. There is no authority, and we're basing it on sovereignty, okay? So, it's very meaty, but it's okay to all… so this is what…

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Rebecca Roberts: was in Anna's favor.

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Rebecca Roberts: Presented. Number one, whereas. So, if the alleged incorporated states, per the Constitution of the United States of America, and uppercase, the Constitution of…

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Rebecca Roberts: the United States, Article 1, 10, Clause 1, etc. Make anything but gold and silver coin atender in payments of debts.

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Rebecca Roberts: You might wonder, well, what does that have to do with being sovereign?

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Rebecca Roberts: Only sovereign nation-states can.

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Rebecca Roberts: Issue gold and silver coin.

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Rebecca Roberts: Can this government do that?

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Rebecca Roberts: The answer is, take a look in your…

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Rebecca Roberts: Change? Pocket Bug. Is that gold and silver?

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Rebecca Roberts: No.

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Jeanne Scott: No.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so they can't… they've shown us right there, okay? But we're gonna ask them to prove that as their… they have to prove these 5 points in order to show they have delegated authority over us.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so number one, they can't do. Let's look at two. Therefore, are not the alleged incorporated state agents and their alleged charter corporations agents, and also the alleged incorporated United States of America agents, blah blah blah, okay. The alleged incorporated United States agents for any of those four here and after alleged agents operating outside

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Rebecca Roberts: Any sovereign delegation of authority with respect to me a lawful state person.

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Rebecca Roberts: Are they not operating… are they on… okay, what is their sovereign delegation of authority with respect to every one of us?

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Rebecca Roberts: Can they show… That they are chartered.

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Rebecca Roberts: Basically.

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Rebecca Roberts: We think they aren't gonna be able to prove that. And they won't.

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Rebecca Roberts: So there's that, chartered. Number 3, therefore, what obligation do I?

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Rebecca Roberts: As a lawful state person, or sovereign, have

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Rebecca Roberts: What obligation do I have? To recognize or be subject to the utterance of the alleged agents? We just read that!

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Rebecca Roberts: None!

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Rebecca Roberts: That's a law! It's law.

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Rebecca Roberts: We don't have to recognize anything they utter.

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Rebecca Roberts: But… but we're gonna ask, because everything you do…

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Rebecca Roberts: In honor, and in common law, and you have them, they have to prove… in order to claim, they have to prove, they have authority to claim it.

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Rebecca Roberts: And here, we're saying, okay, just show us then. We happily, you know, we'll give you everything. You just show us that it's yours, that you can delegate power over this lawful state person.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we're saying, okay, go ahead and prove 1, 2, and 3, now let's go to 4. Therefore, would not any attempt to address me, a lawful state person by any alleged agents, be a criminal act per Cohens v. Virginia?

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Rebecca Roberts: Question mark, right? And there it is again, to usurp jurisdiction would be treason to the Constitution, which is…

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so we're saying… wouldn't… wouldn't that be… Treason?

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Rebecca Roberts: Therefore, this extinguishment order is a public presentation hereby made part of this presentation as if set full forth and would stand unrebutted in my name, da-da-da. And then the rest is…

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead. Is that Mike?

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, they're completely out of their jurisdiction, and… Acting treasonously.

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Rebecca Roberts: She's so stated.

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Jeanne Scott: Okay, so, question, that had came up on something I watched, whatever. What if they sell her property?

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, that's just like what you just said. What if they sell her property?

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Jeanne Scott: Right.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's another crime!

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Rebecca Roberts: And anyway, There's no lawful species right now, which is money. There's no money.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're… we're in the Truman Show. So we're getting this all cleared up, because we're going with the basic foundational stuff, which is sovereignty, and authority, and delegation, and…

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Rebecca Roberts: We're at the core of it all right now. We're all in the middle of this. That's why it's so important. But yeah, there are pirates, they're acting illegally, unlawfully, and criminally, and, you know.

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Rebecca Roberts: If they ignore this, I mean, Anna has, the military and the… is it called the guard working with apprehending these people, and that's what she says is gonna… she's gonna be back in her house, and they will be apprehended by the guard and the military right now.

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Rebecca Roberts: So that's why I brought it tonight. It's not too long of a lesson, but it's good to go through. And yeah, there's words we don't always know, or how do you even look up a Cohens v. Virginia, for example? You know, you have to go to a law library.

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Rebecca Roberts: That might be a recording number, I don't know, but then it's page, I can see that, 404. And then it's got more pages and more things, added, the 18 USC241. I mean, that's a lot, but thank goodness, we have great

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Rebecca Roberts: Doug on California doing this work for us, and helping us, showing us, is this true? You can do Google searches. People here can maybe… we can help each other figure out if we want to look these things up, if we have time. I mean.

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Rebecca Roberts: Anna just put out another 5 articles today I got, and I'm like, wow, I have to sit down and read these for a couple hours and go over them, you know? It's a lot to keep up with, but…

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Rebecca Roberts: So, from that, I'll just, I'll end now from what I have to bring.

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Rebecca Roberts: I would like to just, if… unless people want to talk about this, some more, what crimes

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: No.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, Nathan, you have your hand up, I can see that now, too.

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Rebecca Roberts: What crimes have been committed that you know of in… just in look… say, for example, looking at your paperwork?

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Rebecca Roberts: And then let's discuss, have we… Reported.

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Neeti.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: My statement was based on what Anna's thing was, so I don't know if that's… if you still want me to know.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah, go ahead, of course, anything.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I just wanted to say that,

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She… she… she said… she has… she's put in one of her new articles that none of us have had time to read properly. She's, working with the DOJ. I want everyone to check that out, and… and I'm so thankful that you chose to do this, Rebecca.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because this particular document that you shared.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: This with a couple of the other ones, are things that we could do to follow up. I know, like, the, you know, traffic violations used to refer little pity things, but, you know, like, when they took Wii, right?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And we had to put up a bond. And so, we noticed them. But then I had asked Anna, how do we follow up regarding enforcement for the judgment?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: you know, of that. Well, what you just read…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm cooking and listening, which is why I love this class, because then I get to listen.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And that, states that clearly in there.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then it's giving them the 72 hours, so now I know I need to repurpose that for us to send to the clerk now, because they don't have jurisdiction to do what they did to him, period.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And they have 72 hours to rebut, and or we expect a full refund, and we need his entire record redacted, which we just follow up in 72 hours, and send them that notice after we don't receive anything from them.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And I mean, it would be fun for us, you are asking for topics, I'm suggesting that.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: topic to work on that type of thing in here, and maybe that would be, like, the litigation committee, which I believe should be under the General Assembly, and they had it, I think, under General, and I don't think that that's good. I think it should be under the General Assembly, and that's just my suggestion, and I yield with that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Very good. All good points. Thank you, Neeti.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, we have to…

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Rebecca Roberts: So, if we can get our sheriffs cognizant of who we are, really, that's the first big step.

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Rebecca Roberts: They make sense, and they have some stuff, some information, and some history that actually might be helping us. When they get the notices that we're talking about sending, they're gonna…

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Rebecca Roberts: It behooves them, because it protects them to know what they're doing wrong, and then to stop. They can back us up when we bring notices like this.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, yeah, that was a crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: Against the sovereign.

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Rebecca Roberts: They not only did that, but they harmed a sovereign.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because, you know, we are our own property, right? So, there's a crime, and actually, Neatha, you're… you are one of them that has reported it.

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Rebecca Roberts: And so, how about the rest of us? Have any of you reported your birth certificate fraud?

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Nancy Goldstein: We report it to?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: No, I haven't, but when you asked that question about 2 minutes ago, that… that was the first thing I was gonna bring up when you said what kind of crimes are there on your 928? I was about to say birth certificate, but no, I haven't reported. How do we do that?

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Rebecca Roberts: That's a great question.

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Rebecca Roberts: Would it be a notice? Would it be a declaration?

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Rebecca Roberts: when you… oh, there's a comment in the chat regarding, when you declare, is it not reporting a crime? Yeah, two, you know, you are correcting a status, so…

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Rebecca Roberts: But are you actually saying, the New York Authority of Social Security, or whoever issued your birth certificate, committed a crime?

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Rebecca Roberts: And then the good question would be, who would we report that to? Would it be the Secretary of State?

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Rebecca Roberts: Would it be that, who knows the name of that other one? I want to say Jurat. No, that's not right.

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Rebecca Roberts: Does anyone else know the name of the…

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Rebecca Roberts: Anyway, there is someone who has a position where they are protecting the sovereigns.

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Rebecca Roberts: And I can't think of the name of it.

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Rebecca Roberts: But anyway, I think that would be my homework if anyone was interested in reporting the crime.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: May I?

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Neathi.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: When we were,

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Authenticating the birth certificates, was that the reporting of the birth certificate crime that was required before, but is not required now?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm just asking that question, because I actually… Anna told us not to worry about doing that anymore. I mean, we've talked about it on the podcast, but we didn't speak about it in this… this way that you're bringing it up, and I'm so… I'm glad that we're ironing all these little things out, because we do need to fully know that, so…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: If you could help explain that, that would be great. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Authenticating the birth certificate, I don't even know that process, I didn't do that.

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Rebecca Roberts: So maybe someone here knows about that, and if that is a kind of reporting of the crime, I know it is a correcting.

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Rebecca Roberts: And an authentication is basically saying.

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Rebecca Roberts: I was born alive, which is just another way of saying, doing your 928s or your Declaration of Status, but it's…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I think the, authentication, Rebecca, was what, Romley Stewart did in getting the actual creditor's birth certificate copy.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Which was the Bourne… was the, you know, live Bourne day.

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Rebecca Roberts: Hmm…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Certificate? I believe, I don't know, and I think that they did it in the beginning. I don't… I don't think anybody could even do it now, because they stopped making it possible for you to do it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because after so many people did it, they were just like, oh crap, you know, they're getting out, or whatever. And so, I'm not sure if that's what happened, but then I think that it's covered in the 928, but if… maybe we need to just look into it so that we can… since you're bringing this part up about reporting the birth certificate crime, that's all.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, I just, yeah, yeah, I think that's all good, and I think we, as an obligation to report crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: that puts us in one of those positions of responsibility with our rights, yeah? And so, perhaps…

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Rebecca Roberts: It's basically a bribe. And then what would that mean? Would that mean that we submit?

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Rebecca Roberts: To their law, that we give them delegating power, because now we've agreed, we've consented to pay their…

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Rebecca Roberts: Their booty price?

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Rebecca Roberts: like, pirates? To pass go, you know? And I think it… I think that is the issue.

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Rebecca Roberts: is no, of course we can't be doing that anymore. We can't be just saying, these crimes are okay, they're just sweep them under the rug, they're in the past. We have to report the crimes. And Anna's gone through a bunch of stuff, there's a huge file that…

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Rebecca Roberts: was a… I think it was a terabyte. I was, like, almost a teraby… no, not… it couldn't have been that big. But it was huge. It took, like, 15 minutes to download. This huge file that's got all these documents that Anna has filed,

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Rebecca Roberts: That are reporting the crime to all the different authorities and delegations that run the different offices, not… they're not proper del… you know, they're authorities, let's call them.

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Rebecca Roberts: In the government. And so, like, we can research that. I mean, I don't know everything. I'm only here as a facilitator, and I do bring some things that I learned so that can help you.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we are obliged to report the crimes, if there are any, which there are, and we're… we're witnesses to crimes, and

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Rebecca Roberts: Maybe we should consider how to address that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Since we're the inheritors, we're the priority creditors.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that's what we're claiming.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, well, if no one has anything else to add to today, let's just think about and stew on what crimes

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Rebecca Roberts: for next week. And then,

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Rebecca Roberts: I don't think that U.S. citizens realize, and these are, like, literally, like, I… I'm in a county where there's just me who has claimed their status. So I'm around people all the time who are U.S. citizens, and they actually…

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Rebecca Roberts: are… Employees of the subcontractors.

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Rebecca Roberts: There weren't…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: They're worse than that. They're slave labor to them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, they're slave.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, they're not… yeah, they're not being paid.

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Rebecca Roberts: They're paying… They're paying their subcontractors to have certain special

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Rebecca Roberts: And they don't own anything? They don't own their cars. We don't… none of us who have registered cars own them.

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Rebecca Roberts: We all know that, we talked about that. And we go, this is crime! We have to address the crime. What is the most important crime to address?

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Rebecca Roberts: Obviously, your life is the most important one, and that's why when a sovereign is harmed.

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Rebecca Roberts: That it should be of the greatest concern, and we must report it together.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Mayor?

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Reasons we need to get people out of prison for these victimless crimes.

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Rebecca Roberts: Exactly.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that's what we need. Okay, yeah, we can talk, I…

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Rebecca Roberts: So, Anna has written about the petite jury and the grand jury. One is a little smaller, it's like half the size, and then there's the grand, which is the 24. And then you need a few extras in case someone is… has to step out.

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Rebecca Roberts: To fill it so you don't have a ruined case, yeah?

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Rebecca Roberts: So… In order to have a petite jury, we need

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Rebecca Roberts: the 12, so actually usually they do end 3 and 3 more, so 15 in the jury, pool.

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Rebecca Roberts: But we need to comprehend the bit about

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Rebecca Roberts: Our status, our authority, our responsibility, Our obligation to report crime?

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Rebecca Roberts: We need to comprehend these basic things, which I think we do.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then, when we come to a case, as a jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: We have to have a whole official body of a court around us, and there's at least 5 positions that have to be

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Rebecca Roberts: taken, have been elected officers, so that would be a whole election one we would have to look into as well.

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Rebecca Roberts: And, we would have to have a way of ordering the proceedings.

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Rebecca Roberts: We would have a justice who would assist the jury in giving, A fair trial?

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Rebecca Roberts: And we would need to know how to run, how to meet, what to talk about, and you all know that in a jur… say, the petite jury would come together, and there would be a whole court around them that was elected officials in a proper election cycle.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're not ignorant of that, even though some people think we are. We're not. We comprehend what it takes to build a court, and if you want to join us, do, in goodwill and honor.

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Rebecca Roberts: Bring your paperwork to us so we know that you're interested.

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Rebecca Roberts: And put it in the four pillars, so we can have you be a citizen with us.

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Rebecca Roberts: Obviously a proper national… state national citizen.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, say we had a group of 12 jurors. The group of the 12 jurors would vote within them the

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Rebecca Roberts: Who is their speaker?

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Rebecca Roberts: Who would speak for the whole jury? In other words, come to the trial and speak the words that the whole jury wishes to say

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Rebecca Roberts: Ask. State.

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Rebecca Roberts: request… make demands. If we feel we need more information, we will…

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Rebecca Roberts: Make a demand to have a official Wherever forensic scientists come?

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Rebecca Roberts: or… whatever, accomplice to the crime that we were… became aware of. Or whoever we wanted.

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Rebecca Roberts: We would request what we needed in order to have all the information we would need

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Rebecca Roberts: In order to have a unanimous decision about the outcome.

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Rebecca Roberts: For this living man or living woman, who has come before us because of harm.

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Rebecca Roberts: Or I'm done.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, it's really not too difficult

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Rebecca Roberts: For us to be able to… Do this.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we will learn as we go.

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Rebecca Roberts: how to do this, what we would… Practice.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we would know how to run a real trial. And then the whole… so that's a whole other thing, we're not going to have very many of those. We're going to have more looking at the laws, and this is a question we have in… actively in to honor right now, which is, can we address laws that are not being

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Rebecca Roberts: Actively pursued in a… Active case.

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Rebecca Roberts: Like, say the case is closed, and the man is incarcerated.

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Rebecca Roberts: Can we still bring that case before a jury?

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Rebecca Roberts: As an unfair or unjust Law that we want to ab… abolish or nullify.

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Neeti.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Why is a case closed on someone who's in prison? You know what I mean? Like, seems like it would have to be open just for the fact that they're in the prison alive, and I yield with that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: Any other comments about that?

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Rebecca Roberts: Why would a case be closed when a man is imprisoned.

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Jeanne Scott: And how would you open it back up?

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Nathi.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: If we're actually operating our courts,

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And those guys are in prison.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: For… I mean, ugh.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I have to think about how I'm gonna phrase this question. I'm sorry, I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's okay, it's all good, we're learning together. I'm just gonna read down a list, and you're gonna tell me if you know of any of these crimes.

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Rebecca Roberts: Illegal occupation.

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Rebecca Roberts: Mercenary. Occupation.

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Rebecca Roberts: Destroying the national government.

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Rebecca Roberts: criminal organization.

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Rebecca Roberts: Fraud.

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Rebecca Roberts: Deceit.

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Rebecca Roberts: armed racketeering.

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Rebecca Roberts: War for profit.

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Rebecca Roberts: Inland privacy.

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Rebecca Roberts: Genocide.

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Rebecca Roberts: Human trafficking.

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Rebecca Roberts: Counterfeiting.

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Rebecca Roberts: Privateering.

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Rebecca Roberts: Press ganging.

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Rebecca Roberts: illegal conscription.

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Rebecca Roberts: Conspiracy against the Constitution.

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Rebecca Roberts: And unlawful conversion.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: Let that just sit on your soul for a minute.

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Rebecca Roberts: Do you have an obligation to report any of this? Yes.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we've got to figure out… How we're gonna do this?

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Rebecca Roberts: And who… Do we notice and report it to?

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Rebecca Roberts: Because we… what we have to have…

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Rebecca Roberts: Law that is fair and just.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that's our job, to make sure that that happens. Right now, we have so much crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we're… we're just doing this for the first time, figuring out how to address it.

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Rebecca Roberts: We don't know how!

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Rebecca Roberts: Anna's beginning, you know? Beginning to do it.

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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, she's been doing it a long time, but now she's really getting down to the nuts and bolts, and she's noticing and reporting, and…

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Rebecca Roberts: Doing all the paperwork that needs to be done to notice the crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: Report the crime, I should say.

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Rebecca Roberts: But we're all… I mean, I… It's kind of,

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Rebecca Roberts: It's kind of defeating to know that this much crime is happening, and we don't know how to report it. Yeah?

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Rebecca Roberts: But we can be defeated. Go ahead, Jean.

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Jeanne Scott: I'm sorry, I apologize. Are we…

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Jeanne Scott: only taking care of people that are sovereign? Because, of…

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Jeanne Scott: disagreements between sovereign people, and that's what we're taking care of? Or are we taking care of crimes that are a part of the, the other government?

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Jeanne Scott: Will you understand my question?

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Rebecca Roberts: Yes.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's a great question, it's a distinction. Because we have superior, concurrent and general jurisdiction over all of them, all of the…

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Rebecca Roberts: Land, air, water, maritime.

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Rebecca Roberts: Ecclesiastical law.

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Rebecca Roberts: We… No. There are living men and women, Who are in a status, That was… Forced upon them.

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Rebecca Roberts: By illegal conscription, privateering, There's human trafficking, Deceit, fraud, So, we have to… report the crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: For all the men and women.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: No, we're not just helping each other. We're helping all living beings, and we know very well that these are living beings, even though…

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Rebecca Roberts: We live in the Truman Show, and they are being represented as a piece of paper, and that they're dead. These U.S. citizens.

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Rebecca Roberts: We know that is not true.

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Rebecca Roberts: Some of our own brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers and children are in this situation.

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Rebecca Roberts: of being… Defrauded of their birthright status.

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Rebecca Roberts: through crime. So yeah, we back everyone. And we just have to ask them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Or we have to give them the opportunity to correct their status. If they wish not to.

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Rebecca Roberts: Ana just wrote about this in this last article today.

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Rebecca Roberts: They must choose to take on their status, their birthright status, in order for us to be able to

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Rebecca Roberts: Protect them. Otherwise, they consent.

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Rebecca Roberts: Even though it's a crime to consent to slavery.

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Rebecca Roberts: So you're… we're in a, like, a double…

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Rebecca Roberts: double crime. Like, the crime got committed against him, and then they're like, it's okay, the crime got committed.

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Rebecca Roberts: Which is… Insane.

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Rebecca Roberts: Right?

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Jeanne Scott: Yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's insane. But it doesn't… it doesn't… it doesn't mean that we don't…

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Rebecca Roberts: Go the middle path, you know? That place where it's like, what is the truth?

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Rebecca Roberts: I can see you have a heartbeat. I can see you have warm hands. I can see you're looking me in the eye, you're answering me. I can see you're a living man.

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Rebecca Roberts: But yet, I know you've been defrauded, and crimes have been committed against you, many of them, and your family, and your…

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Rebecca Roberts: lineage.

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Rebecca Roberts: That you're not willing to report.

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Rebecca Roberts: Even if I help you.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we have to educate those in prison. Yeah, yeah!

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Rebecca Roberts: You can't… so, there are people who actually got out of prison.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because they recognized what was happening, claimed their sovereign status in jail.

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Rebecca Roberts: And it had a big bearing on there.

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Rebecca Roberts: Cases.

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Rebecca Roberts: But they still spent years in jail.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we are… so Nathi writes, we're responsible to make all right… sorry, make right all crimes against humanity.

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Rebecca Roberts: She's saying if our funding comes and we just walk away, it will truly be criminal. Yeah, the funding is gonna help us, it's gonna definitely be easier, but it…

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Rebecca Roberts: Our responsibility to report crime is still there, you know? We can't just walk away from that. We have to… we definitely do, I agree, even though Neathi's not on the call, that we have to educate all of us.

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Rebecca Roberts: And hang the… yeah, they're… they're… the law of the West, Anna calls it. It's… it's pretty harsh. There's definitely,

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Rebecca Roberts: There's definitely some capital punishment in there. I don't even wanna… I… okay, I need to grow up and think about that. I don't want to kill anyone, like, I really have that in me, even if it is.

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