We Are Going to Have to Live Here With Each Other

This is an episode in two parts. First, my thoughts on Charlie Kirk’s murder, now that I’ve had a few days to process it, and to see the unfolding reactions and responses on both sides. Then a conversation with Ben Shapiro — one that was recorded shortly before Kirk’s assassination, but that has a different significance after it.

0:00 My reaction after Charlie Kirk's murder
11:37 Lions and Scavengers — and how we got here
25:48 Key moments in Obama's presidency that radicalized conservatives
42:36 Scavengers on the left and the right
1:11:23 Shapiro's view on Trump
1:21:17 Signs of Trump's executive overreach
1:28:16 Oh sh*t moment
1:41:46 Trump on immigration
1:47:48 Is Trump just the tip of the iceberg?
1:56:28 Book recommendations