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Rebecca Roberts: Good evening, everyone. It is the North Carolina Journal Assembly meeting on September 10th, 2025.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we're gonna begin with the fibbins. Thank you, Derek.

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Derrick Sudler: Thank you.

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Derrick Sudler: Rebecca.

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Derrick Sudler: Good evening, everyone. Good evening, Divin's decision.

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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private.

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Derrick Sudler: Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and post-inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.

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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.

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Derrick Sudler: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency?

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Derrick Sudler: Or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.

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Derrick Sudler: Is their response to the business decision for the first time.

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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private.

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Derrick Sudler: Bearing false witness. Misrepresentation and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.

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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.

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Derrick Sudler: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting?

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Derrick Sudler: That is a member or agent of any law enforcement agencies or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.

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Derrick Sudler: Is there a response to the business decision for the second time?

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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private.

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Derrick Sudler: Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.

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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.

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Derrick Sudler: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency

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Derrick Sudler: Or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.

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Derrick Sudler: Is their response to the business incident for the third time.

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Derrick Sudler: Anyone who's here under false pretenses.

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Derrick Sudler: Anyone who is working for a foreign

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Derrick Sudler: government, including the territorial United States, or municipal United States. Anyone who is being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence or purpose now.

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Derrick Sudler: Or leave the conference call.

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Derrick Sudler: If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.

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Derrick Sudler: Are you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the intelligence community?

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Derrick Sudler: Upon no response to this notice of the business decision, this meeting shall proceed.

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Derrick Sudler: I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you very much, Derek.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, if it's okay with everyone here, we'd like to begin with…

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Rebecca Roberts: a, well, I was gonna say the agenda for tonight, which is a teaching, and then a discussion.

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Rebecca Roberts: And also, those who are willing to step up, to be put into the jury pool will also be added to the list of what we have now, which is 6.

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Rebecca Roberts: Jurors.

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Rebecca Roberts: But let's begin with, in honor of our Creator, a moment of silence, and please let us imbue that with all that we wish to accomplish tonight.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that we've been endowed with, as far as our sovereignty and our abilities to stand as lawful,

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Rebecca Roberts: people on the land and soil of the United States.

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Rebecca Roberts: A moment of silence for our Creator.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's always a miracle that we can come together with like minds and like hearts, and strive towards what we're trying to do here.

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Rebecca Roberts: I'm always grateful.

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Rebecca Roberts: For that, and for all of you.

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Rebecca Roberts: Well, let's begin with, something that Anna wrote quite a while ago.

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Rebecca Roberts: about the juries, And she starts with where the forefathers began, and how… what they began upon.

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Rebecca Roberts: And they chose the system of common law, which was based on, these are Anna's words, on the Law of Moses, which is the Ten Commandments.

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Rebecca Roberts: As being the law of the land.

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Rebecca Roberts: And these forefathers of ours chose men to serve as judges from among themselves.

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Rebecca Roberts: In every county, state, and region.

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Rebecca Roberts: If we want to live under this system of law, we must also do the same thing.

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Rebecca Roberts: We must choose to live under common law.

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Rebecca Roberts: Which is to form a general assembly.

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Rebecca Roberts: We must elect

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Rebecca Roberts: Judges, we must step up to be juries, and we must fill all the vacant judicial offices and live accordingly.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is the way that this country was set up, and as far as Anna is concerned, she writes I, the way it is supposed to run is like that.

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Rebecca Roberts: If you do not agree, or want, or accept.

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Rebecca Roberts: This law on this land, you are literally, not just figuratively, but you are actually an outlaw.

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Rebecca Roberts: So those who do accept the common law are law-abiding. It's as simple as that.

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Rebecca Roberts: We are free to accept, Amend?

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Rebecca Roberts: and reject.

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Rebecca Roberts: laws, Within that system, as every jury sees fit.

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Rebecca Roberts: I'm gonna say that again, because that's very important.

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Rebecca Roberts: Listen to the verbs in this sentence. We are free to accept, amend?

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Rebecca Roberts: And reject laws.

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Rebecca Roberts: Written… Within that system, as every jury sees fit.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that is why we have jury nullification, and it is built into the process.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because the people rule, right? Anna didn't write that. I'm saying that.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, any law passed by any legislative body in the common law system can be nullified by a body of

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Rebecca Roberts: 12 honest Americans sitting as a jury. We're halfway there.

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Rebecca Roberts: Just a jury Such, sorry, such a jury can rewrite a law they find unfair or impractical

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Rebecca Roberts: Or, they can utterly reject one that they find To be unjust.

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Rebecca Roberts: vague, Or just… unworkable.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, jury nullification is something

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Rebecca Roberts: I'm stepping aside from the text right now, this is not Anna, this is me.

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Rebecca Roberts: Jury nullification is something that we can do and must do when we come together, and it is…

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Rebecca Roberts: built in to… a living law. Because if it is in stone.

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Rebecca Roberts: Like Moses' law. It is a basis only, but we make that living. So we bring it out

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Rebecca Roberts: of the etched stone and make it living. Therefore, it is

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Rebecca Roberts: constantly being looked at, is this continuing to be fair? Is this continuing to be just? Does this… is this clear enough for people to work with? So we need to look at every law that you find to be unjust, unfair, or unclear.

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Rebecca Roberts: and bring it So we can discuss it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because that is what we're gonna… that's a lot of what we're gonna do first, is do the jury nullification of all of the laws that we find

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Rebecca Roberts: don't fit. We don't want, and we have to have reasons why.

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Rebecca Roberts: So we would make a case.

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Rebecca Roberts: to one another and come to consensus decisions. And when we can, you know, when it's super clear and 12 men and women can come together and find a law to be

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Rebecca Roberts: Unfair or unjust, or unclear.

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Rebecca Roberts: then we make that law. Now, I go back to the text. This is Anna.

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Rebecca Roberts: So any law passed by any legislative body in the common law system can be nullified.

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Rebecca Roberts: Any law passed by any legislative body in the common law system, which is all of it, right, because it's the superior concurrent general jurisdiction.

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Rebecca Roberts: can be nullified by a body of 12 honest Americans sitting as a jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: Isn't that good news?

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Nancy Goldstein: Such a…

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Rebecca Roberts: Such a jury… such a jury, so 12, can rewrite a law they find unfair or impractical, or they can utterly reject it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Jury nullification is where the average people So, I'm average.

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Rebecca Roberts: And I'm assuming all of you are, although there are probably some…

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Rebecca Roberts: special people among us with special skills, but we're just going to step up as a jury of average people, our peers, we are the peers, and we're called to jury duty, which, you know, right now, we're calling ourselves to jury duty, because we're reconvening our government

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Rebecca Roberts: We get to enforce our will on the entire system.

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Rebecca Roberts: In common law, that is.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, also in common law, the judge serves the people, which I've been saying.

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Rebecca Roberts: And it's a whole new way of thinking. There's not a judge with a gavel sitting up higher than everybody else, with a bar between him and everyone else in his special box.

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Rebecca Roberts: But the judge actually serves the jury, and now we need to flip those, like we did the whole triangle of…

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Rebecca Roberts: you know, corporate government when we were learning what is an unincorporated government. We flipped that triangle and put the people at the top. Now we're gonna do that when we look at a courtroom.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we see what we've seen in our lives, and what our great-grandparents saw as well, and that is the judge sitting up here. Now the judge is down here, he's in… he or she is in service to the jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: To help them, to assist them.

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Rebecca Roberts: to guide them if they want it. Or they don't have to listen to their judge, but he or she is there in case.

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Rebecca Roberts: They need that help, so he's… he or she's administrative.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, here we are. The judge serves the people. Back to Anna. He does not tell them what to do.

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Rebecca Roberts: He does not, listen to this, interpret the law. The judge does not interpret the law, the jury does that.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's different than what we are used to.

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Rebecca Roberts: He listens to the arguments along with the jury and maintains fair rules of evidence and arguments.

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Rebecca Roberts: He or she may ask questions, but at the end of the day.

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Rebecca Roberts: It is not the judge, but it is the jury that makes their own decision, and all the judge does is execute

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Rebecca Roberts: the sentence The judgment, whatever is deemed necessary, by the Twelve.

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Rebecca Roberts: The 12, it's such a beautiful number, yeah?

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Rebecca Roberts: We know what the, value of 12 is, we all know that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Continuing to read, that is also why there is no appeal from a jury trial.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: Not continually bringing cases back for a jury trial, unless substantial new evidence would likely have changed their reasoning

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Rebecca Roberts: comes to light.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's a big deal.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because you've got 12 people agreeing on what's going to happen.

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Rebecca Roberts: There really is no room for an appeal, unless there really is some very important information that comes to light. That's why it's important for the jury to be unanimous in their decisions, and to ask all the questions, and to bring in as many specialists, and forensic scientists, and

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Rebecca Roberts: DNA specialists, and whatever the case might be, the jury commands… What is heard.

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Rebecca Roberts: Now, the jury interprets and… back to Ana. The jury interprets and speaks the law under common law.

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Rebecca Roberts: The jury interprets, and… Speaks the law under common law, and what they decide becomes the law

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Rebecca Roberts: And then Anna writes, no ifs, Ands or buts.

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Rebecca Roberts: Just get your butt in the seat. That was me.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, as a ju- as a jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: The judge is just a referee and servant of the court, and the clerk is just that. A clerk

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Rebecca Roberts: keeping good records of the proceedings and testimony, evidence, and filings. And whoever wishes to step up as court clerk can start with

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Rebecca Roberts: doing good records of these juroral assembly meetings until we actually have a case, and then they will go over to that, a superior, obviously, calling, and this is me talking now, not Anna, and then they'll do that. So, it's a very important job.

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Rebecca Roberts: So there are other marked characteristics of common law that you need to be aware of, and under common law, nobody can be summoned to a court without a presentment.

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Rebecca Roberts: We'll talk about what that is from a grand jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: So no one can be… brought…

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, someone… we don't like that word anymore. This is a 10-year-old, article.

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Rebecca Roberts: But it's still true.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, under common law, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. We've heard that.

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Rebecca Roberts: But, we really have to live that.

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Rebecca Roberts: So under common law, there has to be an actual identifiable injured party. Someone has to stand up and accuse you of harming them or their own property. The only exception is in the case of murder or disabling injury of a victim such that the injured party cannot bring suit for themselves.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so… Suit would be brought, and then under common law.

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Rebecca Roberts: This has… there has to be an identified injured party or property.

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Rebecca Roberts: And everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and they cannot be brought to a court without a presentment from a grand jury, okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: That's just going over it a little bit. And then, there's no such thing as a victimless crime under common law.

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Rebecca Roberts: So the judges in common law, or to use the proper name, justices, are not necessarily graduates of a law school, and they cannot be members of the Bar Association either. Rather, they are respected members of their community, who are trusted

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Rebecca Roberts: To make fair decisions about rules of evidence. So there are rules of evidence that they're gonna help the jury with, and then rules of argument, so back and forth.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then they oversee the courtroom proceedings so as to guarantee a fair trial. So think of the justice more as a referee, and to keep the proper order in the courtroom so that a fair trial is given.

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Rebecca Roberts: But those, of course, who are innocent.

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Rebecca Roberts: So that really is their only function, because remember, under common law, the people sitting on the jury make all the decisions, the justice is just there to organize things properly, and impose a level playing field for both sides to get a fair hearing of the issues.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is the system that we are heir to, once we clearly decide to adopt our birthright status as American state nationals. So, this is part of your inheritance, this court system and common law itself.

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Rebecca Roberts: But this is not the system we've been living under for umpteen years, because we've all been…

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Rebecca Roberts: Mistaken on purpose.

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Rebecca Roberts: Or had personage or barotry.

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Rebecca Roberts: committed against us. So, being so-called citizens of the United States Incorporated.

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Rebecca Roberts: So that phrase, citizen of the United States, means the word… means, in the words of the case, kitchen versus steel, S-T-E-E-L-E.

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Rebecca Roberts: a citizen of the federal government, and the federal government is defined as a corporation doing business as the United States. So such citizens live under international law of the sea.

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Rebecca Roberts: Maritime law, not common law.

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Rebecca Roberts: What do we live under?

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Dan Diescher: Seriously.

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Rebecca Roberts: I'm in.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you. Just seeing if you were awake. In their courts, the judge is all-powerful in maritime.

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Rebecca Roberts: There!

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Rebecca Roberts: They're fictional.

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Rebecca Roberts: characters. It's all just… Apples and oranges.

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Rebecca Roberts: In those courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: The judge is all-powerful.

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Rebecca Roberts: And there really are no juries, okay? Those aren't…

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Rebecca Roberts: kind of fake. They're just rubber-stamping what the judge says in the maritime courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: But differently, opposite in ours. So the judge interprets the law in these admiralty courts, says Anna, tells the jury what to think, and tells the jury what they may or may not consider as evidence.

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Rebecca Roberts: Jury gets to decide the evidence in common law, and the judge in maritime tells the jury everything

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Rebecca Roberts: Except an honest, good sense of humor, except how to wipe their noses.

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Rebecca Roberts: So there, let's always say their maritime courts operate just as everyone can see them operating as prejudicial military tribunals where everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

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Rebecca Roberts: And where no constitutional guarantees apply.

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Rebecca Roberts: Pirates. It's just pirates.

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Rebecca Roberts: And in their courts, there are endless codes and statutes and regulations, infractions, and abundant cases of victimless crimes.

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Rebecca Roberts: The majority of cases in such courts never present an actual injured party, and both plaintiffs and defendants are represented by attorneys to a turn for the dead.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's me speaking. Acting as third parties giving hearsay evidence that would be immediately thrown out of any common law court.

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Rebecca Roberts: We can't have attorneys coming into our common law courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: They only etern for the dead, and we're living, so yeah, it's not a match. So you all know, or should know, that you are supposed to be operating as people on the land and not as persons on the sea. The preamble of the Constitution doesn't read, we the persons.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's pretty… we all know that.

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Rebecca Roberts: So if you are going to live as free people, you also have to have cause to know that you have choices to make about your political status, people or person, common law or admiralty, or some other form of law entirely. And that, you are then also required then to know how your chosen system of law works.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, we know all about being mischaracterized as citizens… oh!

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Rebecca Roberts: Ex parte Milligan, which is what I brought on

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Rebecca Roberts: So, the Admiralty courts, which are the military tribunal courts, okay? So, we really need to get, as a part of our goal, the ex parte milligan, which I read to you.

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Rebecca Roberts: And so, revert, which is just our claim and also our provenance on who we are and why we're reverting back to what… the kinds of courts that living people need and are… is our inheritance.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're not throwing that away. We must follow it.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, in order… yeah, okay, so she's just talking about maritime admiralty there. So, these foreign international courts, which are doing so much damage to our property and our people, are merely opportunists filling a gap that we left open through our own ignorance.

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Rebecca Roberts: We must accept that we were. And our schools, our teachers, nobody knew, so we're all ignorant, so it's okay. Just accept that we are, and now we're going to change that to…

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Rebecca Roberts: So when our courts stand on this land, their courts, their maritime courts, I'll add that part, Admiralty courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: But when we allow our common law court system to stand vacant, which it is now.

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Rebecca Roberts: the rats will play because the cat is away, and we're the cat. No, we're not the cat, we're actually the person… the people. But that's what she, you know how Anna is, she's funny. The cat is away, and the cat… the rats will play.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, someone says… did someone say here, what do you mean our courts are vacant?

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Rebecca Roberts: How? When? Why? It's simple. Really, it happened through ignorance, and pen strokes, and greed.

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Rebecca Roberts: The moment you incorporate anything, it leaves the jurisdiction of the land and sets sail on the international jurisdiction of the sea.

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Rebecca Roberts: Is anyone here incorporated?

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Rebecca Roberts: Because if you are, you probably should have said something when we did our, opening statements there with our militia arms.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, it is the simple act of incorporating a county government changes its jurisdiction and its character and its law form.

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Rebecca Roberts: It is, in Anna's words, a simple, Of changing our jurisdiction, Back.

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Rebecca Roberts: Guys, this is not rocket science. I said that on the first meeting. We can do this! We do not have to have a background in law. We do not have to understand or comprehend all law. We do not have to know anything except

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Rebecca Roberts: What are the Ten Commandments, and do we accept those as our foundation?

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Rebecca Roberts: That is it, because every case is going to be so different. We get to do discovery and find out and bring in specialists on any case. Until we have enough information, we can take as long as we want, as a jury, to decide.

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Rebecca Roberts: And sometimes it takes a long time.

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Rebecca Roberts: Find the middle ground, and then that's… that's a skill. We also are ignorant to the ways of coming together with a consolidated

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Rebecca Roberts: True. We won't have many cases at all.

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Rebecca Roberts: Because we don't have victimless crimes. Exactly.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you for interjecting that, Nifi. Okay, so… going back to her… Article…

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, it never mattered if the federal government acted as a corporation because all of its duties assigned by the actual Constitution were international in nature.

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Rebecca Roberts: They were assigned and limited to international jurisdiction and under international law from the start.

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Rebecca Roberts: The state and county governments, on the other hand, are responsible We're operating a land jurisdiction.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that is why our states and counties are geographically defined, and the reason that they all have borders.

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Rebecca Roberts: But back in the 60s, all those organizations that were entrusted with running the state and county governments at that time were seduced by the lore of federal revenue sharing, and they got kickbacks from federal racketeering. And so, they incorporated and signed up

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Rebecca Roberts: Because of the kickbacks, as franchises of the federal government, and that is.

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Rebecca Roberts: Now, just because all those organizations took the bait and obligated themselves and incorporated themselves and agreed to active franchises, like Dairy Queen franchises, or we could say even To the Queen.

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Rebecca Roberts: of Great Britain, which is fake, but anyway, the corporation, does not mean that you cannot form your own unincorporated state and county governments. Notice that when we say this unincorporated state and county governments.

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Rebecca Roberts: They come together as the land and soil jurisdiction. You can't take the soil jurisdiction away from the land jurisdiction.

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Rebecca Roberts: And vice versa. They're intimately connected, and so those… this is just on an aside, those who…

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Rebecca Roberts: But we need a… our states stood up, too.

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Rebecca Roberts: one is useless without… useless, it's a strong word, that's just me, but we need one with the other. We need the state and counties to be stood up. And we… and Ana has suggested we do our states first, because it's the international jurisdiction.

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Rebecca Roberts: So the land and law… of the land and people are all part of the unincorporated body politic.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, you have to elect sheriffs to represent the land jurisdiction and to enforce the actual constitution and organic laws, because with the stroke of a pen in the 60s, the sheriff of the newly incorporated county became the law enforcement officer.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's what happened.

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Rebecca Roberts: In the 60s, our sheriffs sold out and started working as law enforcement officers for all of the federal kickbacks.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, yes, it had to do with greed and corruption.

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Rebecca Roberts: So that is concerned only with statutes, regulations, and code enforcements for U.S. citizens, which we all know all this part.

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Rebecca Roberts: He stopped working for you, the… you… I'm talking to everybody here who's a living man and a living woman.

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Rebecca Roberts: They stopped working for you back then and started working for the local, federal, Think Always Incorporated government franchise instead.

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Rebecca Roberts: So your common law court system, which has existed since the 1600s, disappeared, too. Why?

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? She says a little more about it, but you can read the article. If you want your common law court system back and functioning, and want to send these Foreign Admiralty courts packing.

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Rebecca Roberts: What do we have to do?

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Rebecca Roberts: Does anyone here not want to see the Foreign Admiralty Courts go packing? You know, the ones that make us all guilty.

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Rebecca Roberts: Before we've said anything.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so we put forward… Project came forward about its claim.

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Rebecca Roberts: So Anna wrote a really good article today, it just came out, at least I just got it, and…

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Rebecca Roberts: She's making it so clear right now what we're supposed to be doing.

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Rebecca Roberts: Corporate interlopers, we won't read that part.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, I'm just going to the end of this now.

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Rebecca Roberts: Some people think that we are offering to oppress them in some way, or establish an additional unwanted or improper authority over them by our wanting to pull… bring our common law courts back into session, but

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Rebecca Roberts: And the fact is, and on our response, because there were a few art… a few…

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Rebecca Roberts: They may choose their courts, because they're choosing, are you functioning as a person?

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Rebecca Roberts: Or as a people. So, again, it's so fair. If you really love those Admiralty courts that are…

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Rebecca Roberts: then go ahead! You can be a person in that core if you want! You have every… we have a free universe here. You can choose to be part of that system if you want. And then, like us, we are choosing…

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Rebecca Roberts: So we're simply choosing our traditional law form and organizing ourselves to provide our common law court services for the land jurisdiction of these United States, and thereby exercising a

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Rebecca Roberts: So, each one of us has the ability and responsibility to choose our political status and our form of law and act accordingly. And it would be just as wrong for us to force anyone to act as one of the people of these United States.

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Rebecca Roberts: As it would be wrong for them to force us to act as a person under international admiralty law.

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Rebecca Roberts: Now, that's the whole point.

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Rebecca Roberts: as people, been forced to act as persons under their international admacy law, and we object. And we are about to object properly, and stand our courts up over and above those, and put them out of business.

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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, we still need them because they're still going to be persons, and they're still going to be corporate.

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Rebecca Roberts: law that needs to be enforced, so there's a place for maritime, but it's not in our living world. I mean, occasionally it does cross, because we also have businesses, etc, but…

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Rebecca Roberts: Let's not get it complicated. So, they, the persons, are free to identify themselves as citizens of the United States with the United States Incorporated, defined as territories

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Rebecca Roberts: of and the District of Columbia. They can operate as persons if they want to.

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Rebecca Roberts: And by the same stroke, we can identify ourselves as member of the free, independent, and sovereign people of the United States. These United States of Wisconsin, North Carolina.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oregon, Texas, Florida, and so on, which are the actual organic states of the Union, and we can operate our lawful government owed to the land jurisdiction of this country and serve our needs.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, then she talks about National Liberty Alliance, which are not standing on the London soil, they are territorial. We'll just cut to the chase on that. So we, the people, are the living, actual, factual government of the people, for the people, and by the people. Doesn't that sound…

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Rebecca Roberts: It's a nice ring to it.

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Rebecca Roberts: There is no such government of the person, for the person and by the person, nope. And the fact that those who adopt personhood should consider carefully and well. So believe me, says Anna, our ancestors had no trouble recognizing how a common law court works.

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Rebecca Roberts: Versus how an Admiralty Court works. And we have to get to a point where all this is common knowledge now. This was 10 years ago Anna wrote this.

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Rebecca Roberts: She's very patient with us. So, in answer to our questions, once people decide to act as people and not as persons.

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Rebecca Roberts: And do you know what persons are defined as in Black's Law?

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Rebecca Roberts: as soon as we decide to act as free men and not slaves or monsters from the sea, they can also choose the form of law they live under and can operate that system as it is supposed to operate, but that's the end of the article, but in my humble opinion.

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Rebecca Roberts: they have no respect for themselves. Why should I respect them? I mean, I'll offer everybody the opportunity to learn and to become

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Rebecca Roberts: You know? But I think more we're in the place of the ignorance. We're in the place where we are met with everywhere we go, and we talk about who we are and what we do, and why we have our…

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Rebecca Roberts: we're met with a lot of, you know, deer in the headlights, we're met with a lot of, what do you mean? Like, that's not true, what are you talking about, three constitutions? We're met with a lot of,

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Rebecca Roberts: you know, it's not your job to break that down, but if you're asked, then sure, give the information, but all of us, I think, have been in situations where we're like, gosh.

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Rebecca Roberts: this is tough to explain this to people. You give them the website, and they never look at it, or you show them your 1779, and they're like, this is mumbo jumbo, what does this even mean? And, you know, it's like, okay.

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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, I love to teach, because I find empowering others is just… it brings me great joy.

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Rebecca Roberts: But honestly, I've come up against some situations which are just like, oh my god, why did I even open my big fat mouth, you know? Like, just like, my neighbor now hates me because I said there were 3 constitutions, and I'm like, like, I'm an American! He said, I'm like.

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Rebecca Roberts: well, do you have a birth certificate? Does it say U.S. citizen on it? He's like, yeah, of course it does! And I'm like.

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Rebecca Roberts: okay, well, can I explain what that means to you? To, you know, what it says in the law dictionary? What lawyers and attorneys and judges all know what that means? Can I…

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Rebecca Roberts: okay. So I explain it a little bit, you know, not to turn on his toes too hard. And he's like, that's BS! I'm not gonna… I don't believe anything you're saying. I don't know, you're just… you're not even…

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Rebecca Roberts: you haven't even lived in North Carolina longer than a few years, or whatever, you know, he's like.

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Rebecca Roberts: how long have you even lived here? And I'm like, well, that has nothing to do with it, as far as you're concerned. I'm talking about person versus people. And, you know, it's like that type of conversation, but it can be pretty frustrating.

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Rebecca Roberts: But Mike, you know, he's our amazing outreach, and he's so patient, and he gives such clear, good ways of explaining it all to our… to these, lost persons, you know? These are…

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Rebecca Roberts: he's like, he's like the lifeguard, throwing out the buoys, you know, like, go here, catch this! And, like, there's hundreds and thousands of people out in the water, and they're like.

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Rebecca Roberts: let me have the buoy, and some grab onto it, but they don't come aboard, and they don't come on shore, you know? They're just like, oh, okay, I'll just hold on here and float out here for a while, and it's like…

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Rebecca Roberts: Mike's just like, no, no, we gotta pull you in, come on, come on in, you know?

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Rebecca Roberts: I got one fish today, you know, and then you fish them out. Yeah, some people do love their slaves' lives. Yeah, you know what? I just wrote an article, I have a substat, you're welcome to follow, it's called American State National, and

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, I just… I just wrote about that. Look.

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Rebecca Roberts: You do you, you know? But here's what you could be claiming in your inheritance.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's phenomenal what we are all endowed with right now. It's such an exciting time to be alive. So…

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Rebecca Roberts: end the educational aspect, so we move into now, if anyone would like to make any comments, or bring more information, or ask any questions. If I don't know the answers, there's plenty here who do know the answers, and together we'll figure it out.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, I know that's a pretty basic article, but there's things in there that maybe some of you

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Rebecca Roberts: hadn't heard before, or didn't know, or it just made it clear. Again, you read it once, and it was back in your memory, and you… it jogged your memory. It's like, wow, the jury, the role of the jury. So I'm pressing upon us, like, what is the role of the jury? Because that's, like, our first step, you know?

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Rebecca Roberts: And then we can start… also, within the jury, we can start filling our positions.

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Rebecca Roberts: Which there are not that many, and we already have a couple filled.

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Rebecca Roberts: And, by the way, we're not just gonna have one justice. There'll be numerous justices, and there'll be a huge jury, hundreds in our jury pool eventually, and we'll be able, once we get our jury up, and we can

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Rebecca Roberts: notice our sheriffs, and we can get our sheriffs enforcing with us, for us. We have our jury working, nullifying all of these unfair.

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Rebecca Roberts: unclear, unjust laws, we're gonna be rocking and rolling, guys. And we're gonna be… have to be aware

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Rebecca Roberts: That we are in a highly honored position as part of a Jural assembly, making, and…

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Rebecca Roberts: Reviewing laws that have been made.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? So, at that, I'll stop, maybe look at the chat, and if anyone would like to interject.

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Rebecca Roberts: I'll… I'll try to load that article, or… I'm having such a hard time doing that, I don't know why.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, Joel, it's on my weekly meeting, work recording.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, and Dan was putting together a list of books.

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Rebecca Roberts: Can you have that for next week, Dan?

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Rebecca Roberts: Just give us one book next week.

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Dan Diescher: I will. I will get some things together. It's.

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Rebecca Roberts: Did you know the li- the list is… yeah, the list is good, but…

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Dan Diescher: I was gonna try to start somewhere small, you know, and you know, I know we're at Juro Assembly.

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Dan Diescher: But we always need to remember who we are and where we're standing in the first place, so I'd like to go over a couple things that I wrote down about that as we move together forward. I'd like everybody to remember, you know, that we're all a vibration, and we gotta match the vibration to move forward together.

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Dan Diescher: Thought is a vibration that leads to creation.

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Dan Diescher: I'm looking, hoping to forward, you know, move forward with authenticity, love, forgiveness, and teamwork. If you are in attendance or listening to

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Dan Diescher: this recording. In the name of our Creator, I ask that everyone gets involved. I hope you are the change you desire to see.

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Dan Diescher: We need attendance. We need attendance in all areas. We are looking for the people who can open their hearts, broaden their fields by raising their vibration and unify into something miraculous.

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Dan Diescher: Authenticity is measured at 852 Hz.

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Dan Diescher: The tone is believed to help a person return to their spiritual order and connect with their authentic self.

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Dan Diescher: Direct association with purpose.

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Dan Diescher: This process of spiritual realignment is seen as crucial for accessing one's deepest inner wisdom and authentic self. Once you reestablish spiritual order, you can better cut through illusions and see the truth in people and situations.

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Dan Diescher: Love 528Hz. There are so many benefits to carrying yourself in these fields.

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Dan Diescher: Just to list a few for love. Promotes relaxation, reduces stress and anxiety by lowering cortisol levels, balances nervous and endocrine systems.

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Dan Diescher: Some says boost cellular health, promoting DNA repair.

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Dan Diescher: And cellular re… excuse me, resilience, also enhancing emotional well-being, focus, and creativity.

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Dan Diescher: Forgiveness is considered to have two parts.

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Dan Diescher: The first vibration that is associated with forgiveness is 639 Hz. This frequency is linked to the heart chakra in harmonizing relationships. It has said to enhance communication, understanding, and compassion, which are all vital components for moving towards

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Dan Diescher: compassion. The second vibration… excuse me, forgiveness, moving towards forgiveness. The second vibration associated with forgiveness is 417 Hz, associated with undoing situations and facilitating change.

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Dan Diescher: It is believed to help relieve past trauma and clear away negative energy by letting go of the past.

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Dan Diescher: It supports the process of healing and forgiveness.

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Dan Diescher: Though it is not scientifically possible to measure teamwork on an individual scale, I know that if we move forward approaching this concept metaphorically by aligning the principles with the first three mentioned, it will create a solid framework for learning, discussing, and debating as we hold hands and hold each other accountable, knowing that we are all one.

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Dan Diescher: What's good… what's good is good for all, and what's bad is bad for all. With these vibrations as principles, we will stand.

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Dan Diescher: I also have some other things that I'd love to share out of this, Brent Winter.

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Rebecca Roberts: Of course, go ahead.

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Dan Diescher: common law.

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Dan Diescher: A big one.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, fat, but bigger than a brick.

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Dan Diescher: Oh, yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: Oh, yeah. And when you're highlighting and underlining and going to all the excerpts and the subsections, yeah, it's a long book.

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Dan Diescher: Natural law, common sense versus baseless logic. Law is the expression and the perfection of common sense.

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Dan Diescher: Understood as a biblical concept, the phrase natural law signifies standards of conduct inherent in relationships among men and women, discoverable

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Dan Diescher: by reason that rest on general revelation, knowledge of God's character and law through creation, or scripture, and guided by innate moral sense.

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Dan Diescher: Natural law signifies the inborn capability to sense right from wrong that lies dormant until enlivened by personal threat, indignation, or moral outrage.

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Dan Diescher: It is one's ability to know law's standard, once one stops and reflects.

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Dan Diescher: God has furnished men, quote, wrote John Locke, with faculties sufficient to direct them in the way they should take.

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Dan Diescher: If they will, but seriously employ them.

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Dan Diescher: I thought that was very important for our General Assembly. Maybe I'll read that again.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.

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Dan Diescher: for men?

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Dan Diescher: wrote John Locke, with facilities sufficient to direct them in the way they should take, if they will, but seriously employ them.

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Dan Diescher: By using his subjective nature, each man is capable of recognizing right from wrong, from observing objective nature, i.e. his surroundings. Common law and government is the outworking of natural law among a people.

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Dan Diescher: Through the phrase, natural law is not taken from Scripture, it is sometimes used with reference to Romans 2.14.15, as though these verses teach that everyone knows right from wrong. These verses, however, teach, rather.

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Dan Diescher: That each person, being of Adam's race, is endowed with the natural ability to discover and distinguish right from wrong. Natural law is not law that every person knows.

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Dan Diescher: But it is that law which each person is able to discover, learn, and know through his natural potential. Thus, the common law tradition claims for the courts the ability to find law by considering the evidence.

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Dan Diescher: Which is obviously what you've been covering.

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Dan Diescher: A quote from lawyer Joseph Hodges Coyote. Coyote is correct because according to Romans 2.14-15, the ability to discern right from wrong, law.

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Dan Diescher: Is a sense common to all.

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Dan Diescher: Toward the end of his patriotic life, Coyote summed up his convictions.

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Dan Diescher: Coyote said, To maintain and defend those inalignable rights of liberty, life, and property upon which the safety of society depends.

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Dan Diescher: To secure the oppressed, and to defend the innocent, to maintain constitutional rights against all violations, to rescue the scapegoat and restore him to his proper place in the world. All this seemed to me to furnish a field worthy of any man's ambition.

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Dan Diescher: I'll yield for a moment. Sure. I've got plenty more to read, but you guys just… any questions, or anybody have any comments?

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loria gathings: Gloria, may I?

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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead.

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Rebecca Roberts: Dan, I'd like to know that book that you're reading from.

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Dan Diescher: It… it is Excellence in Common Law by Brent Winters, and I don't even… most people… you better… most people probably want to find the… I think somebody's got the link to the digital copy, because I know the actual book itself is a few hundreds of dollars.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.

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loria gathings: And what's the name of the book?

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Rebecca Roberts: I wrote it in the chat for you.

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loria gathings: Okay, okay. And, and also, what is the presentment?

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loria gathings: Rebecca, what… what is that?

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loria gathings: What is it?

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Rebecca Roberts: Can you, can you explain the, bringing a presentment? It's like bringing a case to a court. You would present the facts that need to be looked at by a jury.

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loria gathings: Okay.

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Dan Diescher: Right, of course.

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Rebecca Roberts: the way.

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Dan Diescher: And of course… and of course, after due process, before you… after you approached the person yourself, and then went to the ombudsman, and then, of course, we would go to the jury if anything was actual…

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Dan Diescher: Crime.

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loria gathings: In other words, bringing… bringing evidence.

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loria gathings: Okay, thank you. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: And it actually…

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Rebecca Roberts: I mean, a soft yes to that bringing evidence, because you don't have to bring evidence, but you… you can bring

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Rebecca Roberts: a claim.

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Rebecca Roberts: In a presentment.

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Rebecca Roberts: and you can show pictures, and you can, you know, have an inquiry. There is a lot of ways of doing a presentment, but it's not bringing suit, for example, even though that is something we can do, too, that would have to do with our

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Rebecca Roberts: dual, the court being in a dual jurisdiction. But a presentment would be what you would bring if you think your neighbor maybe smacked your car.

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Rebecca Roberts: If you would talk to your neighbor.

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Rebecca Roberts: And maybe you got it on camera, like, maybe someone saw it, and they said no, and they don't want to talk to you, or whatever, and then you brought it to an ombudsman, or to an oversight, or some committee to hear it, and they refused to come, then you would make a presentment to the…

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Rebecca Roberts: To the court, and it would be looked at

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Rebecca Roberts: And then the jury would come to a decision, and assuming the neighbor hit your car, then it would have to do with that. But the presentment is presenting a case to the jury, basically.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's just a.

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loria gathings: Nope.

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Rebecca Roberts: Fancy word for… Telling the jury what happened. The court, I should say, what happened.

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loria gathings: Thank you. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Did anyone else like to have any questions or make any comments?

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Rebecca Roberts: That's great.

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Rebecca Roberts: So far.

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Dan Diescher: If everybody's not in a hurry, I've got some real interesting stuff, common law versus Republican forms, and it clearly states in the next couple chapters why we're not a republic, why we're not a democracy.

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Dan Diescher: And why we aren't literally just upholding common law. And so, it's also tough for me, because as I was watchin

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