Van Jones: ‘If the Heterosexual World Was as Committed to Marriage and Family and Kids as the People I Know in the Gay World, All These Problems Would Go Away’

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PHILLIP: “Well, okay, so here‘s I want to since you brought it up, I mean, there was a piece in the Atlantic that kind of caused some commotion this week. It says a common narrative. The marriage effect is the title, a common narrative has it that commitment and motherhood make women unhappy. And new data suggests that the opposite is true. So maybe there‘s something to what you‘re saying. I‘m not sure that‘s an American thing, though, I think because, you know, the birth rates are going down in pretty much all developed countries right now. So but women do need to know that a, they can be happy and married and have kids, and b that they can do that and have careers if they want one and see that they can do that and not go broke.”

Jones: “I think that‘s true for women. It‘s true for men. The thing that bothers me about this report is that it blames same sex relationships and that, and that is wrong. Some of the best parents I know are lesbian couples or gay male couples who are doing an extraordinary job with kids and are having them and are adopting them. And, frankly, are caring. If the heterosexual world was as committed to marriage and family and kids as the people I know in the gay world, all these problems would go away. So I just don‘t like the anti-gay bias in the report.”

PHILLIP: “Anti surrogacy, anti I mean, in a way anti-gay adoption that again it seems counterintuitive to a strategy that is about how do we have more babies.”