Spec Operator: "I Wanted to Legally K* Someone" | Official Preview

In this deeply personal premiere episode in the new studio, Shawn Ryan sits down with his longtime friend Dave Rutherford — former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, motivational speaker, author, and founder of Frog Logic Concepts. The conversation spans decades of shared history, from their first CIA contract to family milestones, and dives into Rutherford’s remarkable life journey: his idyllic Florida upbringing, the challenges of his brother coming out in the 1980s, a winding athletic career, battles with insecurity, and his eventual call to service. With humor, vulnerability, and faith, Rutherford opens up about hardship, resilience, brotherhood, and the enduring hope he strives to pass on to others.

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