How the CCP and Its Proxies Created a ‘World on Fire’: Col. John Mills

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This is the full version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with John Mills. The interview was released on Epoch TV on July 29, 2025.

“China is surpassing American strength, whether it be naval forces or nuclear forces,” says retired U.S. Army Col. John Mills.

His four-decade career has spanned key roles from the Cold War era to the War on Terror. At the Department of Defense, he directed cybersecurity policy.

“I was brought into cyber in 2007 when the threat really was Russian cyber adventurism, but by 2012, from that point onward, it was all China—wasn’t even close,” he says. “For every dollar Russia spent on misadventure, China spent 20.”

In this episode, Mills talks about the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP’s) influence globally and how it has created what Mills calls a “world on fire.”

“All the playing pieces are kind of in place for [CCP leader Xi Jinping] to make his move around the world, to establish China as the dominant nation state, and everything else, all other nations, would be tributary vassal states, including the U.S.,” Mills says.

“They are absolutely advancing a relentless onslaught of information warfare, through their media, through their wolf warriors, to advance a Chinese communist message that just drowns out everything else.”

CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:00 Introduction and Background of John Mills
0:00:35 The Rise of Chinese Communist Party Influence
0:03:16 Unrestricted Warfare and Biological Threats
0:05:12 Economic Warfare: Market Manipulation and Solar Panels
0:07:20 Chinese Influence in the Americas and Panama Canal
0:09:01 Organized Crime, Money Laundering, and Immigration Warfare
0:12:33 Middle East Conflicts: Iran, Israel, and Proxy Groups
0:18:27 China’s Role in the Ukraine Conflict and Global Alliances
0:21:18 Chinese Strategy for World Dominance
0:24:22 Information Warfare and Western Media Co-option
0:28:40 China’s Global Network: Allies and Belt and Road Initiative
0:31:12 Deep Water Ports and Strategic Infrastructure
0:33:41 The Value of Global Conflict for China
0:35:17 Chinese Military Growth and Nuclear Capabilities
0:38:25 Underground Command Centers and Military Strategy
0:39:12 John Mills’ Military and Cybersecurity Career
0:45:17 US Cyber Defense and Offensive Capabilities
0:50:47 Coordinated Cyber Campaigns: China, Russia, Iran, North Korea
0:52:40 Gamification of Chinese Cyber Operations
0:55:05 Countering Chinese Cyber Threats and Critical Infrastructure
0:59:36 The 2016 US Election, Intelligence Community, and Russian Narrative
1:05:06 Election Interference in South Korea and International Cartels
1:09:03 US Foreign Policy, Soft Power, and Support for Allies
1:13:37 Final Thoughts: America’s Role in a World on Fire