‘He Could Be President’: Joe Rogan Says Hunter Biden’s ‘a Lot Smarter than People Give Him Credit For’

Rogan: “Bro, have you seen Hunter — I’m sorry — Have you seen Hunter Biden describing why crack is so good? It’s the greatest crack —”
DEROSA: “No.”
Rogan: “— advertisement of all time.”
DEROSA: “No.”
Rogan: “If — if crack wasn’t terrible for you — this guy makes me I want to try crack. I — I’m not going to — don’t do it — I’m not giving any advice, But I’m saying, this guy — like legitimately, this might be the best advertisement for crack of all time. I’m going to send it to you, Jamie. You — you you’re going to watch it. And you’re going to, ‘oh my God.’“
DEROSA: “I’m excited. I’m excited for this.”
Rogan: “’I want to try crack.’“
DEROSA: “He keeps — he’s the gift that keeps on giving. He is.”
Rogan: “Well he’s a lot smarter than people give him credit for.”
DEROSA: “Yeah.”
Rogan: “I’ll tell you that. Like he’s talking — and one of the things he was talking about was why smoking things are so addictive. Why smoking cigarettes are so addictive. Like the psychology behind it. He’s not dumb. But he’s just a guy who, you know, became an addict. And that fu*ks your whole life up.”
DEROSA: “Yeah.”
Rogan: “It fu*ks you. You become a subhuman.”
DEROSA: “Yeah.”
Rogan: “When you’re junkied out all the time and you’re — you’re that dude who’s like — what he was doing like making films and sh*t and driving on the gun. ‘Ah!’“
DEROSA: “Yeah.”
Rogan: “He was fu*king gone. He was out there, dude.”
DEROSA: “Well when you’re an addict with money —”
Rogan: “Yeah.”
DEROSA: “— it gets real wild.”
Rogan: “And your dad is one of the most famous people on the planet.”
DEROSA: “Yes.”
Rogan: “It’s so crazy. Listen to this.”
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H. NIDEN: “The only difference between crack cocaine and cocaine is sodium bicarbonate and — and water and heat, literally.”
CALLAGHAN: “That’s it?”
H. Biden: “That’s it.”
CALLAGHAN: “And those things are pretty much free if you go to like a science store.”
H. Biden: “This is free. You can go to your neighborhood convenience store and just get — anyway, I don’t want to tell people how to make — how to make crack cocaine, but it literally is a mayonnaise jar cocaine and baking soda.”
CALLAGHAN: “How different is the experience?”
H. Biden: “Oh, it’s vastly, vastly different. And — like for real. I — I — I feel really reluctant to kind of have some euphoric discussion — I know you’re not asking me to do that —”
CALLAGHAN: “Yeah.”
H. Biden: “— but to have some euphoric discussion about crack cocaine.”
CALLAGHAN: “I think this might be kind of the opposite here.”
H. Biden: “OK. No, I — it’s the exact opposite. I’m saying I don’t want to have the experience of some euphoric recall. That’s how powerful crack cocaine is. Does crack cocaine make you act any differently? No. Is it safer than alcohol? Probably people think of crack as being dirty. It’s the exact opposite. When you make crack what you’re doing is you’re burning off all the impurities so that it combines with the sodium bicarbonate which makes it smokeable. That’s all. You know all of these actors and you know people in the past that talked about they had a problem with cocaine and freebasing, they were smoking crack.”
CALLAGHAN: “So straw on the stove is the same thing?”
H.Biden: “Not exactly, but close to it. But, it’s a little bit different.”
CALLAGHAN: “OK.”
H. Biden: “But anyway, my point about it that — your point about it, which I think is is true is that there’s a thing about crack that is really insidious. And what it is, is that any time — you know, I think one of the reasons that they believe that smoking cigarettes is so addictive is because it combines three really important things. It’s habit forming. There is an oral fixation. And there is a ritual combined with it. And so the idea of hand to mouth is a habit and a fixation that we learn very early, even as children, with a pacifier, with a spoon, with your thumb, to even — to breastfeed, OK? So really. So I — and I don’t want to get into the psychology of it because I’m not — I’m no expert. But I do know this, is that you combine with that ignition, combustion, and then you combine the ritual. You have your cigarette in the morning, you have cigarette when you get out of the car, you have your cigarette with your coffee. Crack is that on steroids. It’s over and over. There’s ritual to it. There’s a ritualized part of it. The combination of all of those addictive behaviors together becomes like really powerful. And the drug in and of itself is a more immediate euphoric sensation connected to it than, in my experience, cocaine alone.”
CALLAGHAN: “Does it require more frequency to maintain the high?”
H. Biden: “Yes, yes. And the capacity to use more than you could otherwise with powder cocaine just physically to be able to ingest it.”
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Rogan: “OK.”
DEROSA: “Holly sh*t!”
Rogan: “We should give that guy credit. Who — who’s — who’s the dude who’s interviewing him?”
DEROSA: “Andrew Callaghan, Channel 5.”
Rogan: “Well, he nailed it.”
DEROSA: “He’s —”
Rogan: “He did a great job. That’s the best ad for Coke ever.”
DEROSA: “It’s the best —”
Rogan: “Best ad for crack ever.”
DEROSA: “Yeah.”
Rogan: “And he could be president.”
DEROSA: “Yeah.”
Rogan: “How about that?”
DEROSA: “That —”
Rogan: “How about that? How about that.”
DEROSA: “That kid, by the way — that guy — (Laughter)”
Rogan: “He could. Like, no bullsh*t. Hunter Biden after all he’d been through — look, we all — his dirty laundry’s all out there, we all see it. He — he was a freak.”
DEROSA: “He — speaking of which —”
Rogan: “He’s smart — smarter than his dad when his dad was young.”
DEROSA: “He is —”
Rogan: “And he was a crackhead.”
DEROSA: “He spoke so eloquently about crack just then.”