A recap: War & Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11, 2001 (9/11)

War & Globalization: The Truth Behind September 11, 2001 (9/11) ~ by Michel Chossudovsky Nov 2, 2012

1:01:58 links between Saddam Hussein and alqaeda have been fabricated and ironically they're fabricated by the same people who actually use Al-Qaeda as an intelligence asset only one uh Israel kill um I think there was a messaging service in Israel where called boo where two people were reported to be worn two hours prior to the attack to uh I mean there uh there's I think Victor patoski was formerly in the Israeli intelligence uh mad and he said that that they have a history of uh getting people to attack their enemies by means of deception which was done in Libya when was induced to attack Libya after information was planted by the mustad I mean is this another angle that you taken any well that report that you're referring to this messaging um service is is uh is correct that there was uh
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there were email messages which confirmed that the that the attacks would take place several hours before the attacks took place and that's on record but there many other uh indications there's there's the inside trading on on on uh Airline stocks which took place on the 8th 9th 10th of September and which where financial institutions made billions of dollars in in in uh Short Selling what we call short selling the the stock of of airline companies or betting on collapse 1:03:49 uh uh this is in in for people who trade in options they know exactly it's a put option on on on the stock
1:03:58 uh now with regard to war to these killing people as a means to justify uh particular foreign policy initiatives this is nothing new there's a the the the most uh the well documented case of this is a secret blueprint of The Joint Chiefs of Staff which is called operation Northwoods. now operation Northwoods was a secret plan to blow up an airplane and to kill people in the Cuban community in Miami in Miami and then blame it on Fidel Castro as a pretext to invade Cuba okay it sounds you know you could make a movie out of

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In this lecture by Michel Chossudovsky, he blows away the smokescreen put up by the mainstream media, that 9/11 was an attack on America by "Islamic terrorists". Through meticulous research, he has uncovered a military-intelligence ploy behind the September 11 attacks, and the cover-up and complicity of key members of the Bush Administration.

According to Chossudovsky, the "war on terrorism" is a complete fabrication based on the illusion that one man, Osama bin Laden, outwitted the $40 billion-a-year American intelligence apparatus. The "war on terrorism" is a war of conquest. Globalisation is the final march to the "New World Order", dominated by Wall Street and the U.S. military-industrial complex.

September 11, 2001 provides a justification for waging a war without borders. Washington's agenda consists in extending the frontiers of the American Empire to facilitate complete U.S. corporate control, while installing within America the institutions of the Homeland Security State.

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TRANSCRIPT:

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I was in uh Hamilton 3 years ago in the same room this was just in the wake of the war in Yugoslavia and as you recall uh many people including people in Progressive organizations supported that war in part I think it had to do with a lack of understanding but again we we we were caught up in what was what we thought was a humanitarian War to liberate the the kovas from the dictatorship of uh of uh Slobodan mosovich but I think when we look at the history of this entire period starting in fact starting in the early 90s we understand that this is part of a war agenda and there are several stages in this war agenda
1:39 certainly Yugoslavia was one stage and Yugoslavia was very important as a stepstone into this particular into the Afghan as well as into the Iraqi War for political geopolitical economic strategic regions uh reasons we know also that the Balkans is is a is an important Corridor for pipelines for transportation it is the Gateway into the Middle East but if you if you look at National Security documents you realize that all these wars are part of the same the part of the same design 2:22 they're part of the same uh uh they emanate from the same military Doctrine and uh this is now abundantly clear
- when we look at what is called the project for The New American Century which is this blueprint of do of global domination uh which was published before the accession of bush to the White [Music] House it is essentially a blueprint it identifies the stages of this war
2:57 um if we look at National Security doc documents going back to the to the Clinton Administration we have evidence that the war on Iraq was already planned there Central Command documents uh which are part of the of military strategy which say very explicitly Iraq is first then Iran extending from the tip of Saudi Arabia up to the Caspian Sea basin you have a region which encompasses approximately 70% of the world's supplies of oil and natural gas Saudi Arabia, 26% Iraq 11% of total World reserves that is five times those of the United States and this ultimately is the objective of this war it is to secure access control and ownership over these reserves
it's 4:11 not the only objective but it it is certainly a key objective and this region is strategic and it's not only Iraq it's the it's the broader region now if you look at at this region you'll notice that it is heavily militarized in the sense that each of these little planes indicates a US military presence since the war in Yugoslavia specifically 1999 with the the outbreak of the of the
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air campaign uh NATO signed an agreement with several former Soviet republics
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which is called the Guam Georgia um Ukraine usbekistan aeran and
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malava explicitly this military agreement was
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to protect and secure oil pipelines from the caspan sea Basin back to uh to Mar
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to Western markets and in fact in very important to understand that these these
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pipeline routes they Transit well they Transit across uh uh the the caucuses
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and then they they also Transit across the Balkans which is also a pipeline
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project controlled by the same multinational uh multinational companies and and there you can see that that um
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the Civil War which broke out in Macedonia in in late 2001 was instigated
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actually by uh by uh by the CIA and by the US military using always using
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Al-Qaeda as uh as an instrument as an intelligence asset to create uh
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conditions of which ultimately lead to the destabilization of of these countries which and one group of
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countries which is very important is Macedonia Bulgarian and Albania and in the case of Macedonia we know now for a
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fact that not only had you senior military advises working with Islamic
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terrorists um with the which which were integrated into the into the K in other
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words there was a direct collaboration between uh between the US military on
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the one hand and the uh and the mujahadin financed by Al-Qaeda on the
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other and it is amply documented that this collaboration took place so we we
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see that and I I'll try to go through several of the of the of the stages of
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this of this process we see that on the one hand uh the War uh is based on
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securing oil it's based on securing um control over people and
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institutions it is uh also based there's also a rivalry between the
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anglo-american Coalition on the one hand and uh what the US media has called Old
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Europe which is the alliance essentially the alliance between France and Germany
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um and that confrontation is not in any way limited
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to the arena of diplomacy to the security Council of the United Nations it's a much deeper division which has to
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do with the fact that there's that the oil industry is split down the middle
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with the anglo-american conglomerates on on the one hand British Petroleum now is
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integrated into the US oil industry with the with the merger of British Petroleum
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and Amo uh and then you have the giant uh um
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uh Franco Belgian conglomerate total finina elf uh which uh is competing for
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markets in this region which is also supported by Germany you have the Russian oil conglomerates in other words
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what would what we are looking at is a big divide it's it's the confrontation between great powers in the areas of of
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uh of oil uh but not exclusively it is also in the in the military industrial
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complex where you have now uh an integration of British uh defense
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interests with those of the United States and this explains the the relationship between the two govern
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governments it it has nothing to do with Tony Blair or or George W okay it has to
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do with the fact that British Aerospace Systems is now part of the us uh defense
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procurement system okay it has exactly the same privileges as the big five Lo
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Martin boing and so on okay so essentially we're dealing with the big six so there's an integration at the
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level of Defense production there's an integration in the oil industry there's
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a there's consultations an integration at the level of of the military and the intelligence with the MI5 MI6
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collaborating with their counterparts and so on so that is what what creates
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this this military Coalition and very crucial it is also the confrontation
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between competing monetary systems namely the confrontation between the
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almighty US dollar uh on the one hand and uh the
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uh new Global Currency which is the Euro this
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confrontation uh for control over currency systems is something uh which
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is very important particularly in this region the United States wants to
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ensure that the Euro as a new Global Currency dominated by the large German
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banks the the Deutsche the the West Deutsche lanss Bank the Deutsche Bank
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the big French and Italian uh handful of European Banks essentially the the the
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the European Central Bank located in Frankfurt is is a project of the German
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Financial establishment and U uh so that you have
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a clash in the oil industry you have a clash in financial institutions it's
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very complex that lots of overlapping and crosscutting allegiances and then
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you have this split in the in the defense industry where you have British
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Aerospace Systems integrated with the big five uh defense contractors
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incidentally Canada's part of that through the the defense agreements and and production sharing Arrangements
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between the two countries and then you have in Europe uh uh what is called the
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European air defense system Corporation aades which is the which is the
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integration of aerospatial Matra uh the French um um the French
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conglomerate on the one hand and Deutsche Aerospace which is uh a
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subsidiary of of the powerful damler group and this has formed a very
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powerful competing uh uh defense conglomerate which does not have access to the US
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system of procurement and therefore there's also competition in the production of Weaponry so you have
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essentially I mean these are not the the all the sectors in which there's there's
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conflict between the two these two um economic blocks but defense industry oil
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and currency systems are the main ones and um and the this hidden war between
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particularly the hidden war between the United States and France is something which goes back uh to the early 90s it's
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certainly visible um although it's not reported in the media in central Africa
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in the Rwanda Civil War in the Congo but also in West Africa and it involves the
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confrontation of of the Old Colonial Powers particularly France in this case
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because Britain is allied with the United States and the United States which is establishing itself a colonial
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Empire in Africa um using again uh trigger during Civil Wars through
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through covert operations and so on all these things in have been documented and studied uh but they're not well
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understood and they're not discussed in the newspapers so that we are dealing with a
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blueprint for global economic political
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domination uh this region as I mentioned is is strategic Afghanistan has a border
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with with China Afghanistan is now heavily militarized several of the former Soviet republics bordering onto
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because it borders onto China China's western frontier similarly in recent
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years there's been a militarization of the CH South China Sea the ultimate uh
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Rogue enemies are China and Russia it's no secret to anybody in the military
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intelligence community in February of 2002
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the United States uh issued what was called its nuclear posture
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review and the nuclear posture review was a redefinition of its nuclear policy
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and it says we are now going to use nuclear weapons on a preemptive basis to
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protect ourselves against the Rogue enemies and they actually listed in in
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the in the statement of this nuclear poster review they listed of course the well-known Rogue enemies Rogue States uh
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Iran Iraq Syria uh North Korea uh Libya but they
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also they also included Russia and China okay as uh stating very clearly that
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that nuclear um that nuclear weapons are are directed uh nuclear warheads are
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directed to these uh uh to these countries which in principle are
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supposed to be friends of of of America at least officially now uh another important
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development another important development in in in this nuclear
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posture review uh happened on the on the 6th of
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August uh 2003 which happens to be Hiroshima day 58 years ago um uh secret
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meeting was held at the offood um Central Command base in
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Nebraska which is the really the you know the big sort of uh military base
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they invited representatives from the private sector Wall Street Etc to
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discuss the development of nuclear weapons for preemptive use and there's
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been a whole propaganda Campaign which has been launched already even before
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the war in Iraq uh and uh that nuclear
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that the new generation of tactical nuclear weapons the so-call mini nukes are harmless to civilians Etc because
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the explosion is underground Etc no discussion of radiation effects of these nuclear warheads the many nukes so they
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look they sound like harmless toys but they have they have an explosive
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capacity which varies between 1/3 to 6 times times a hosim ABB and they are to
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be used in theater Warfare okay alongside Conventional Weapons their
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delivery system is similar to to that of these so-called bunker Buster Bars and
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um it it's interesting if you read the Press carefully you will have noticed
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that barely a barely a couple of weeks before President Bush's
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famous uh State of the Union Address which was back in February of this year
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a White House spokesman said we do we will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons
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if we attack with weapons of mass destruction okay that was a official statement of the White House Now What's
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his name um the the the British um um Minister of Defense uh what's his
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name Hoon yes Hoon Hoon made the same statement made exactly the same
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statement to the House of Commons uh prior to the war in Iraq but his
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statement was much more explicit and and and even more more frightening because
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he said we will not hesitate to use our Trident nuclear weapons if we attacked
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with weapons of mass destruction knowing of course that the weapons of mass destruction were non-existent okay uh
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because after all that intelligence was known at the time and we knew it and everybody else knew it okay but the fact
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of the matter is that nuclear war is part of the is is a military assumption
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it is now being uh developed uh it uh it has this it is
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being developed with the private sector because there's money to be made in that of course um uh we we also have if you
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look at this uh at this broader region uh you you also come to realize that
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we're not strictly talking about uh the nuclear capabilities of of Britain or
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the United States which I which in in any event constitute the main threat but we're talking about
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Israel which for the record in fact is more advanced than Britain it's the
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fifth nuclear power in the world today not officially but in terms of scientific uh the scientific assessments
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of of their capabilities and and sophistication is that they're more advanced than Britain uh in in uh in
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their nuclear technology and all of the Israeli Warheads are pointed to cities
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in the Middle East as well as as well as Russia okay and so we have here a a
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situation where the the war well the war has extended from Afghanistan to Iraq
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and and now um one is H hinting that the next stage is Iran and already I mean
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it's already included in the blueprint of the pnac because the the the pnac
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says very explicitly the pn's objective is to quote fight and decisively win a
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multiple simultaneous theater Wars this as a means to achieve the objective of
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P's Americana the war agenda does not stop with Iraq uh it is part of a of a
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continuous process it is a project of world domination there's no question about it and it ultimately It ultimately
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targets uh China and Russia it also in a in a sense also
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targets the European Union at least it it it its objective is to gain uh
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economic and political dominance uh in relation to competing uh uh to competing World par
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so that I mean in history this kind of situation has emerges it's a
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confrontation between competing uh Empires and I think we have to
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understand it in that particular way uh and and that's why I I Tred to to look
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at it in terms of of the of the the various underlying objectives of this
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war which is petroleum uh it it's clear that anybody who gains control over 70%
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% of the world supplies of oil as a tremendous uh leverage in relation to
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any other competing economic power in the world okay and uh but and and that
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is certainly one of the of the objectives of of this war now this all these all this is
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happening at a period of at a at a very important juncture in
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in our history it's it's certainly the most severe economic
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political and social crises of the modern era there's no question about that uh it is it is accompanied by a
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major collapse in living standards all over the world a globalization of
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poverty which is not due to scarcity of resources lack of means precisely
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precisely the opposite it's it's expansion through destruction it's the displacement of of um National economies
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local economies uh through uh deregulation privatization and so on
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okay and now if for those of you who followed the Iraqi privatization program
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uh which has emerged from one day to the next I think it's very important to to stress that
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um everything is privatized with 100% ownership except oil okay except natural
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resour resources but that includes banking it includes Services Education Health Etc uh it is no
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longer uh something which is negotiated with the IMF okay we we might one day
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feel very nostalgic um in relation to the imf's
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deadly economic medicine which uh was imposed on countries negotiated and
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imposed on countries in a multilateral framework we're not dealing with that
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we're not dealing with a World Trade Organization we're dealing with uh a finance minister and a minister of trade
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of Iraq which emerged from one day to the next okay and who then go off to
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Dubai to a world Bank meeting and then the following week they off to the OPEC
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meetings representing Iraq when we know for a fact that these people are stoes
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of of of the United States and and the and the their the instruments of the
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United States Military Intelligence apparatus um and uh uh but on the other
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hand the the type of of arrangement which is now being put in place in Iraq
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is not a multilateral type of thing where you have creditors coming in with the World Bank and so on it is a
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colonial structure where where the the US government and the US Treasury will
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will will set the stage for how the economy is going to be revamped and in
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fact it's interesting in this particular context that uh a spokesman of for the
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British Chancellor of the Checker Gordon Brown uh actually said well they weren't
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even they weren't even informed of this privatization program until it was
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announced okay which suggests that that uh America is not Consulting its partner
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in the coalition uh which is technically U involved in
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this in this provisional uh in this Coalition provisional Authority the C
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the so-called CPA which is the body which administers Iraq and uh uh it it
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appears that Britain in this case was not uh was not
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informed an unfolding economic crisis
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uh within our own economies which is triggered by the massive redirection of
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resources to the military industrial complex and the war economy um we we can see it happening
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there's a run on the dollar uh we uh we
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we can see the tremendous shift from civilian SE from the civilian sectors
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into the military the the the implications of this of this uh War
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economy on social on Social Services is likely to be absolutely
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devastating uh we we can see also massive budget deficits accumulating due
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to the to due to the expansion of military budgets uh and uh
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contrary to the 1930s because I think we have to also
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start comparing ING with other comparing this situation with that of
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the 1930s in Germany okay this is a movement towards fascism it's a slide
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towards fascism it is supported on the it milit militarization on the outside
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internationally inside it is the establishment of the police
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State uh under the Patriot legislation uh this police state apparatus is
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unfolding um and uh in fact what you have is the militarization of Civilian
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institutions uh we brought out a very interesting study in the in the magazine which has to do with the fact that in
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the United States they're repealing legislation which prevents the military
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from entering into the Spheres of civilian police and Justice it's called the POS comatus act it goes back to the
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Civil War it's a very fundamental principle that the Pentagon that the military do not intervene in in in
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police functions or in uh in the judicial and what is happening is that
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this legislation is being repealed and we are now seeing the militarization of
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Civilian institutions so that de facto we have we have a military government in
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the United States let's face it because George is not the person who's pulling
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the strings his understanding of foreign policy is very
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limited I uh I don't know what the standards are at mcmas University
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but I I guess they're the same as they are at the uo but um well maybe higher
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but in any event uh George W would not have made uh his honors ba in in
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international Affairs at at any Canadian University with this kind of perspective that's the the the guy does not know
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where Afghanistan is okay and he is briefed on a daily basis by CIA director
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George tenant we talk about political puppets well we have we have these
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public relations puppets and and quite frankly I prefer George W to Wesley Clark okay I mean if if I had to choose
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if it ever came down to that because Wesley Clark is actually a very much more astute military man which who is
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responsible for war crimes in in in in the Balkans for having ordered the
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destruction of Civilian civilian infrastructure hospitals schools we we have it well documented that Westley
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Clark is is a war criminal and George W is just a puppet
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now how does all this
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relate to September 11 [Music]
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okay well it relates in a very direct way
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because in every political statement by the Bush
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Administration 911 is is the justification for waging these wars it's
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the it's the war on terror and the war on terror is part of
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the National Security Doctrine and the war on terror the
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campaign against the military campaign against Afghanistan was decided on the evening of 911 on September 11 at 11:00 at 9 night they had decided to wage war on Afghanistan and the justification and the pretext was that Al-Qaeda had attacked the World Trade Center.
30:17 If you go through the documents and and the chronology discussed in my book where I provide the review of the meetings which were held on that on that evening that decision was made it was probably made several years before because you don't simply improvise the war on Afghanistan from one month to the next.
okay but let's say the the that it was made public uh on September 11 or at least in the morning papers of September 12th and it was and the and the and the News dispatches were sent out mythical figure of uh oama Bin Laden - everybody says Al-Qaeda is Behind These terrorist 31:01 attacks and there's a lot of discussion as to whether Al-Qaeda is Behind These terrorist attacks, I won't necessarily get into that but I think what must be understood is that Al-Qaeda is not an outside enemy.
31:26 okay Al-Qaeda is a creation of US foreign policy and is what the CIA calls an intelligence asset the alqaeda which means the the base or the the origins of al-Qaeda go back to the Soviet Afghan war
31:58 it was a CIA initiative to recruit Islamic brigades setting up the madrasas the in other words the quranic schools the training camps in Afghanistan in the context of the Soviet Afghan war this was a cold war initiative it was launched under the presidency of Jimmy Carter for which he got the Nobel Prize
okay 32:29 okay now um you might say so in other words Jimmy Carter The Carter Administration launched a secret operation the National Security advisor was rinsky and they created Al-Qaeda they
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created the Islamic brigades and binski doesn't actually deny it I have an interview here he says uh he he says yes
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it was an excellent idea to to do that you know we we uh we funded the brigades
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we brought in the the the wahhabi uh sects from Saudi Arabia which set up the
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training camps and and then it was financed by drug money and so on so forth all this is documented actually
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nobody even within the CIA will actually deny it but the official story
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is he went against us we supported oama we supported
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Al-Qaeda it was for a worthy cause it was during the Cold War and in the
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post-war era alqaeda has turned on its sponsors an intelligence jargon that
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that is called the blowback it's when an intelligence asset goes against the the
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sponsors uh which in this case is the American intelligence apparatus so that essentially the CIA is the ill-fated
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victim of this with oama going against us okay and that is the that is the in a
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sense it's a missing link because it the blowback says yes it is an outside enemy
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we helped them initially he went against us they can't deny the the historical
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record but I can tell you that this is simply a big lie and it's not so much I
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mean the LIE this the LI has got got to be so big um it's not the question of
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whether there was for knowledge okay of the 9/11
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attacks um it has to do with the fact that
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alqaeda is a creature of the CIA and has remained a creature of the CIA right up
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until the present and that is simply not it's not a question again of saying yes maybe
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he it it is something which is so well documented from the from official
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sources now I'm going to read you a quote and I would like you to guess the
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source of this quote
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okay it refers to the Early to late to mid90s in Bosnia
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Herzegovina where as you know uh Al-Qaeda was active in supporting the
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Bosnian Muslim Army uh bringing in uh madin and uh weapons uh financed by this
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by uh various sources but essentially this was part of al-Qaeda and the the
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the report says the following the Clinton administration's handon involvement with Islamic Network's arms
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pipeline included inspection of missiles by US government officials the third
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world relief agency a sudan based phony humanitarian organization was a major
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Link in the arms pipeline to Bosnia tww is believed to be connected with Osama
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Bin Laden there you have the Clinton Administration collaborating with an organization which
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has links to Al-Qaeda this document was is a public document but it was not they decided to
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keep keep it uh you know more or less private to the themselves because they
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wanted to discredit Clinton uh for his affair with Monica Linsky okay and uh I
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know that there was discussion within the Republican party to trigger uh an
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oama gate a Bosnia Gate oama scandal
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which would then backlash and uh on the Clinton Administration and accuse
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Clinton of collab ating with Islamic terrorists okay A bit like the Iran Contra
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Scandal uh and it was decided within the Republican party not to pursue that
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particular course because that was their course that was their that was the continuity of foreign policy right from
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the beginning okay and it could backlash and it would destroy the continuity so
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they preferred to go for the easy mon Linsky Scandal which would uh which
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would uh denigrate and discredit the administration for something which is
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admittedly not as serious as as collaborating with with the terrorists
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okay but I mean we have I we have
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numerous uh evidence we have many points of evidence of collaboration between uh
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agencies of the US government the military and intelligence in particular on the one hand and uh um and the
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al-Qaeda network uh and uh uh these do not date back to a bygone
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era now what's the source of this document it's the Republican
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party in other words the Republican party it's a 97 do 1997 document in
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1997 the the Republican party was was a
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accusing the Clinton administration of collaborating with Al-Qaeda they go back
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to 2001 or 2000 at least the last firmly
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documented um joint military operation between Al-Qaeda and the and the
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Pentagon uh dates to August 2001 barely a month before the 9/11
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attacks uh where in in the context of the Civil War in Macedonia where you had
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within the same paramilitary formation terrorist paramilitary formation so-called National Liberation Army you
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had mujahadin sent in by Al-Qaeda with senior Military Officers detached by the
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Pentagon uh and um who were there under a contract with military Professional
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Resources a private mercenary company but they were US military okay and they were they were working together we have
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the photo photographs and we have statements by the Macedonian prime minister which actually accuses the
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United States of supporting uh of of supporting terrorism and and there's
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absolutely no doubt that these things took place and we have Congressional records and so on okay uh and in that
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process and that's very important uh it's outlined in the
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diagram there is a a longstanding historical relationship between Al-Qaeda
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and the Pakistan's Pakistan's inter Services
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intelligence the isi now the isi uh was essentially the
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goet uh in the in the operation launched uh in the early
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80s first under Carter then under rean several secret directors were issued
40:25
National Security decision directors were issued by under rean to provide support to the to the Islamic brigades
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and it was done through Pakistan's inter Services intelligence acting as a goet
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so that in a sense Pakistan's inter Services intelligence has always acted in a sense as a subsidiary of the
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CIA and uh that relationship incidentally was never severed the
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relationship between Pakistan's isi and the CIA has never been severed and on
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the other hand Pakistan's isi continues to this to this date to support Islamic
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terrorist organizations in different parts of the Middle East and and uh
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southeast Asia uh even in the in the western province of China and they are
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doing this on behalf of the of it of their counterparts in the CIA okay the
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isi is is leading these these cver operations terrorist organizations uh in
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favor of terrorist organizations and they're doing it uh while maintaining very close bilateral ties uh with their
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us counterparts uh in uh in Langley namely the CIA that background has to be
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understood now we have reason to
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believe that Pakistan's isi
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is part of the 911 conspiracy
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and this is not and at the same time Pakistan's isi has links to the CIA and
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to the Pentagon in late
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September 2001 there was an FBI report
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report to the fact that Pakistan that unnamed sources
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in Pakistan were financing the terrorists Al-Qaeda uh the relationship is
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documented by other sources including the Council of Foreign Relations but then those that statement
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by the FBI was then later confirmed that uh the money transfers
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which were sent out of Pakistan by the isi had been ordered by the head of the
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agency General Mahmud Ahmad in other words the FBI
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confirms that there was an undercover role
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whereby Pakistan's inter Services intelligence transferred money to the
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ring leader of the 9/11 attacks madata this came out in the Press
43:28
reports and it and the the report itself was commented on network
43:34
television and they speak in the FBI report of the money man The
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Mastermind the finance seers behind the
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terrorists and in a subsequent report the name of the the head of Pakistan's
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inter Services intelligence is actually mentioned as him having given the order
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to transfer this money to to the alleged terrorist of 911 the alleged money man
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was on an official visit to Washington at the time when when these
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attacks occurred so here you are uh this is um so
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please understand a little bit the linkages the FBI
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States has a report which suggests that
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Pakistan's isi and the head of Pakistan's isi is the institutional architect and
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finance here behind the terrorists okay yet the same individual which is
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identified in the in in in these reports and there were several other
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reports one of Indian intelligence is on an official visit to Washington in
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other words the money man behind the terrorist General mmud Ahmad which is
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head of Pakistan's inter Services intelligence an organization which has
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continued to support terrorist organizations for the last 20 or 30 years since the well since the early 80s
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is on an official visit to Washington from the 4th to the 13th of
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September on the 9th of September the leader of the Northern Alliance
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General sham mud is assassinated in a it's a kamaka assassination two days
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before uh uh 911 and the official statement of the Northern Alliance which
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was transmitted to the US government accuses the isi of having of having uh um instigated
45:52
this assassination it's interesting that all this of course is a very carefully
45:57
acknowledged by the by the US media in fact the Washington Post States very
46:04
clearly uh in uh in an editorial which came several months
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later um they they point to the fact that this
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General who was met at the very senior levels of the of the Bush Administration
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meeting two individuals in charge of who are now in charge of the inquiry Senator
46:30
Bob Graham and representative Porter Goss okay and it just so happens that on
46:36
the morning of 9/11 uh the two individuals who are now entrusted with that
46:42
investigation and who which have who have produced this this 800 or 900 page
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Report with 28 missing pages well these individuals were having breakfast with
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the money man on the morning of 911 the the US media gives us the
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evidence that the isi is behind it the Council of Foreign Relations has documented it but they don't connect the
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dots to the extent that they say how come this money man is received red carpet treatment in Washington and meets
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virtually everybody in in the you know in the Congress and the Bush Administration and so on so forth and
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then on the morning of the 12th when well actually on two successive meetings the 12th and
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the 13th he meets Colin paa Richard armatage and he's invited into the state
47:36
department on the 13th to discuss the terms of Pakistan's
47:43
cooperation in the war on terrorism okay so bear in mind you have this this money
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man behind 911 is invited into into Colin Pal's office and there they
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discuss how the money can help in going after terrorists it's a bit like asking
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Al Capon to help in going after organized crime it's the same I mean
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it's the same procedure but it it it in other words Pakistan's inter Services
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intelligence which is the institution Behind These terrorist organizations is
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also the organization which ultimately is going to serve the interests of the
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US government in going after the terrorists and and the conclusion one draws apart from
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all the other evidence which has accumulated the standown orders the the
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mystery surrounding the collapse of the World Trade Towers the the the collapse
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of wtc7 for instance which is shrouded in in in mystery the
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coverups um and so on so forth um all of this
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suggests that first of all that the for knowledge issue is an absolute is a red herring okay it's there to mislead
49:01
people because it what it does is it says oh yes well there were failures
49:06
intelligence lapses Etc uh the FBI didn't do its job or the CIA it was we
49:12
didn't know but we didn't know when they were going to hit us Etc of course they knew okay intelligence
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assets uh which collaborate with uh with the US intelligence uh apparatus are
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known to their sponsors uh this is not an outside enemy it is it is an inside
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enemy even if these groups have a certain degree of autonomy they are instruments of US foreign policy the
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instruments of the US Military Intelligence apparatus on the 10th of
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September Osama Bin Laden was admitted to the military
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Hospital in raal pendi
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Pakistan now anybody who's been to raal pindy knows that it's swarming with US
50:03
military advisers okay the whole place is it's the it's the base of the of the Pakistani military and and so
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on and nobody of that stature oama Bin
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Laden um would be able to enter into the hospital without some connections at the
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very senior levels of the military intelligence apparatus uh and of course you can always claim
50:29
the reward okay now that piece of news of course very very important because it
50:38
it refutes all the statements made by Donald ramsfeld who says well we don't know where he is it's like looking for a
50:45
needle in a stack of hay you've heard that several times right says well we don't know maybe he in Afghanistan we
50:51
don't know where he is well this is this report conf firms and I and I think it's
50:58
a reliable report because it's my favorite Anchor Man Dan Rather CBS
51:05
news reporting from raal pendi Pakistan now you see Dan ra again does
51:13
not draw the implications of of his reports he goes to the hospital
51:20
interviews the people sends back the images and so on we have the transcripts of this report and he says here danra
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reporting from raal pindy oama spent was hospitalized on the 10th and that was
51:33
only 24 hours before the 911 attacks and then they but he doesn't he doesn't
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connect the dots and say well Donald Rumsfeld is a big liar
51:46
okay because if Dan Rather says that he was there either Dan ra is a liar or Don
51:52
ramsel is a liar somebody is lying okay but if if he were if oama was there one
52:00
day before these attacks we could have gone in and arrested him at in his hospital bed in raal pendi and this
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would have saved a lot of time and energy and so on so forth but obviously
52:12
that was not part of the agenda which the US Military Intelligence
52:19
establishment want to achieve so what these what these incidents suggest
52:26
suggest is in effect that the
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whereabouts of oama Bin Laden this mythical figure are known to the
52:38
intelligence Community have always been known he could have been arrested on numerous
52:43
occasions the history suggests that Al-Qaeda is an organization which was
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created by the CIA and that those links have have been sustained ever since and
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it makes a tremendous difference in the way we understand these events we we
53:03
have to understand that this that the war on terrorism is fabricated it is a
53:09
complete fabrication but at the same time it is the doctrine uh which justifies all these
53:17
actions both internally and internationally the police state inside the the
53:23
militarization uh of the Middle East and Central Asia uh on the other hand uh
53:29
it's part of the National Security Doctrine it is a big lie and uh it's
53:36
perhaps the biggest lie in US history and it is absolutely essential that a
53:43
consistent anti-war movement reveal the LIE we can't simply go around saying and
53:50
that's why I say these the war and 9/11 have have have a have a Rel relationship
53:57
because 9/11 is the the basis which justifies the war on terrorism and this
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war of conquest and uh you you might find people even among Progressive
54:11
organizations in Canada who says well you know I I think I'm against the war
54:16
in Iraq but I think we should go after this guy Osama Bin Laden okay uh we have
54:22
to uh we have to weed out the terrorists I think that's a I support push on on the on the terrorist thing but I don't
54:28
think we should invade Iraq etc etc and bear in mind that throughout the
54:34
propaganda campaign was to try to establish links between between terrorists and the and their sponsors
54:40
namely the Iraqi authorities and and so that you had a very consistent propaganda Campaign which was which was
54:47
there day after day telling us that that America is under threat and so on so forth and in the last uh speech of bush
54:56
uh um in the in the general assembly and his previous speech that he made a few
55:02
weeks ago he is now using a new term which is called the Civilized World okay
55:07
we in the Civilized world uh so this I think uh uh is uh is
55:16
essential that we build this understanding that it be part of a consistent anti-war movement an anti-war
55:23
movement cannot be based on solely on anti-war
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rallies we have to consistently create an an organizational structure and
55:37
network of uh uh which spreads across the land uh of of Grassroots uh sens s
55:45
educate our our fellow citizens spread the word establish committees at the
55:52
local level perhaps a far less uh Dr atic way of building an anti-war
55:58
movement and uh because what happens with these big rallies they they they
56:04
take place and then subsequently people go home feel good that they've done
56:10
something but we need the organizational structures we have to question the
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legitimacy not of the main political and Military actors behind this war project
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yeah how do you see the next 5 years and onwards that competition developing I
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mean who who will ultimately win out do you think from your experience is a difficult
57:08
question the the United States
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has a superior military power in relation to any other
57:24
rival with very sophisticated Weaponry some of which are not really even known
57:29
to the public um we're talking about uh secret weapons
57:38
programs uh climatic uh environmental Warfare the HARP program new generation
57:45
of nuclear weapons uh Star Wars in fact I should say that Iraq was the first Star Wars
57:53
because 60% of the missiles were were sent using the the GPS the global
57:59
positioning system by satellite okay they were launched from from uh from
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aircraft from U they were were launched from um from uh various uh locations but
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they were te telu Guided by uh by the
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the satellites so we're dealing with a tremendous advance of the United States
58:25
in relation to any one of the other powers in the world today I think that that's the first uh
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uh issue the second is that the anglo-american oil companies in the wake
58:37
of this war whether whatever we whether we like it or not they have established
58:44
their control uh over 11% of the world's oil reserves and they
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also more or less they have control over 36% because that includes Saudi Arabia
58:58
and then if you add the Emirates to that it's it's even more but the the the
59:03
issue is the following now that oil is administered by the CPA the the
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Coalition provisional Authority okay it is not being privatized and I think it's
59:16
not being privatized for very precise reasons because the US military wants to
59:21
maintain control over those oil resources and they they can and hand it out to whoever they want but uh they uh
59:30
they are still maintaining the the the control over iraqi's oil wealth and uh
59:39
they have an upper Edge in relation to the other competing Global powers in the
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world today could you comment on what you think uh Saddam Hussein's role and all
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of this well first of all Saddam Hussein was initially
59:57
uh installed by the United States going back to the early periods he was he was
1:00:04
very much uh supported by the US the weapons of mass so-called weapons of
1:00:10
mass destruction were delivered by us and German corporations we've documented that in our magazine he received US
1:00:17
military aid in the context of the Iran Iraq war which preceded the the first
1:00:23
Gulf War the links between uh Saddam Hussein and 911 there there
1:00:29
are no links I mean uh
1:00:34
the the media the US media have attempted to create the illusion that
1:00:42
ama Bin Laden is working with Saddam and Saddam is protecting Bin Laden etc etc
1:00:48
there's absolutely no Foundation to those uh to those statements the on the
1:00:54
contrary there there's a lot of evidence as I've suggested here that the links are between AMA and the Bush
1:01:00
Administration okay if if there are links documented links we have links
1:01:06
between Colin Powell and Al-Qaeda very precise links okay I can get into that
1:01:13
we have links between the Bush family and the bin Laden family they Financial business ties we have links between U um
1:01:22
Thomas Kean the head of the 9911 commission and and AMA Bin Laden because
1:01:28
Thomas Keane who's who's the former Governor of New Jersey and who heads the 911 11 commission who's responsible for
1:01:35
shedding light on on Al-Qaeda happens to be a a former business partner of the
1:01:41
brother-in-law of Osama bin Laden okay and I can go on and on and on okay of of
1:01:47
these the links between members of the Bush Administration and the bin Laden
1:01:53
and and so on so forth both at in the the realm of financial relations but
also in the in the arena of of in of of these covert CIA operations uh so um the the 1:01:58 links between Saddam Hussein and alqaeda have been fabricated and ironically they're fabricated by the same people who actually use Al-Qaeda as an intelligence asset only one uh Israel kill um I think there was a messaging service in Israel where called boo where two people were reported to be worn two hours prior to the attack to uh I mean there uh there's I think Victor patoski was formerly in the Israeli intelligence uh mad and he said that that they have a history of uh getting people to attack their enemies by means of deception which was done in Libya when was induced to attack Libya after information was planted by the mustad I mean is this another angle that you taken any well that report that you're referring to this messaging um service is is uh is correct that there was uh
1:03:14
there were email messages which confirmed that the that the attacks would take place several hours before the attacks took place and that's on record but there many other uh indications there's there's the inside trading on on on uh Airline stocks which took place on the 8th 9th 10th of September and which where financial institutions made billions of dollars in in in uh Short Selling what we call short selling the the stock of of airline companies or betting on collapse 1:03:49 uh uh this is in in for people who trade in options they know exactly it's a put option on on on the stock
1:03:58 uh now with regard to war to these killing people as a means to justify uh particular foreign policy initiatives this is nothing new there's a the the the most uh the well documented case of this is a secret blueprint of The Joint Chiefs of Staff which is called operation Northwoods. now operation Northwoods was a secret plan to blow up an airplane and to kill people in the Cuban community in Miami in Miami and then blame it on Fidel Castro as a pretext to invade Cuba okay it sounds you know you could make a movie out of
1:04:41
it but it it is actually that those
1:04:46
documents have been Declassified they're available on our website and it and actually we published
1:04:53
an article in in the magazine in the first the magazine operation northw was
1:04:58
precisely that it was to it it was to create civilian casualties and as and I
1:05:05
quote from the document a useful wave of indignation would follow obviously France Germany Belgium
1:05:12
are not stupid they they know what's going on why does the EU insist on expanding
1:05:19
East like especially when Poland is over and over again referred to as America's trojan horse in the EU do they see
1:05:26
anything there do they think they can overcome America's influence over the Eastern European States or are they just
1:05:33
going into well you see there's there are two processes taking place simultaneously one is called European
1:05:40
enlargement which is the integration of new members into the European community and new associate members okay in which
1:05:48
the the the countries of the former Soviet block of Eastern Europe are candidates for for full membership in
1:05:55
the European union and there's another process which is called NATO enlargement
1:06:00
and NATO enlargement is to is to bring these countries into the orbit uh of the
1:06:07
of uh of NATO but mainly of the United States in in the form of military
1:06:12
agreements and so on and these two processes are in a sense competing with one another uh I I don't I still think
1:06:21
that Poland is really uh is really uh it's in the back door of of of of
1:06:27
Germany it's not it's not it won't it's not possible for the United States
1:06:32
necessarily to establish itself in Poland uh or let's say the Czech Republic or or SLO or or the Slovak
1:06:40
Republic for that matter the Balkans is is a is a different matter Croatia is in
1:06:48
the German German orbit Montenegro Serbia possibly in the orbit of Germany
1:06:54
Macedonia Bulgaria Albania are in the US orbit and that has
1:06:59
a lot to do with pipelines so there's a there's a struggle for territorial
1:07:04
control the euro is the currency in all those the the Euro has been used as a
1:07:11
proxy currency in in in the Balkans in Eastern Europe um it's not being used the the
1:07:18
dollar is being used in some of the former Soviet republics of the Caucasian region aaban Georgia
1:07:26
uh the tajik Republic and so on whereas if you look at the map that I put up
1:07:32
initially you'll see how how how the US military has expanded into that
1:07:38
region and I was wondering if you would make say a comparison uh
1:07:45
between what happened um in that week and the Nazis setting fire to the uh
1:07:53
German Parliament it's much more
1:07:58
sophisticated there's that that analogy has been made by many authors
1:08:05
uh and in fact that there have been other analogies we've also draw the
1:08:11
analogy between 911 and Pearl Harbor okay we we know it's documented
1:08:19
that the United States knew that Pearl haror would be attacked okay and they
1:08:26
let it happen it's it's somewhat different because it was still the Japanese Air Force that did the bombing
1:08:32
okay but they knew it and we have intelligence documents to prove it in
1:08:39
the case of 9/11 we have so much
1:08:44
information which the information doesn't necessarily tell us who did it
1:08:50
but the information refutes the official narrative in in in a in in in many ways
1:08:57
and it it shows that there was cover up and complicity of key members of the
1:09:03
Bush Administration I'll give you another example I I mentioned the role of the
1:09:09
general Mahmud Ahmad okay now if these guys didn't have
1:09:14
anything to hide how is it that when condis arise had her press conference
1:09:21
which was held just in the wake of you remember the the the May 16th pres knew
1:09:28
when the four knowledge issue hit the tabloids that was about a year a year and a half ago uh in May of 2002 she
1:09:36
gave a press conference and then there was an Indian journalist who asked the question he said Is it true that there
1:09:42
was a that the head of Pakistan's inter Services intelligence was in Washington at the time of the tax and had meetings
1:09:49
with you and other people etc etc important piece of information how
1:09:55
come that sentence was withdrawn from the
1:10:02
transcripts uh I went through the audio transcripts and the video transcripts
1:10:07
and then I went through the the the written transcripts and when they said Is it true that and then blank inaudible
1:10:16
was in Washington it says Dr Rice are you aware
1:10:22
of the reports at the time that in aable was in Washington on September 11 and
1:10:28
$100,000 was wired to Pakistan to this group here in this area okay the money
1:10:34
man behind 911 so that was inaudible and then there was another trans so the the I looked at
1:10:41
the CNN transcript and then I look at the White House transcript and they're both inaudible I then I went to the
1:10:47
original tapes and I listened to them and they're clearcut and I F checked with a third transcript the federal
1:10:54
document system they give the correct transcription so do what do they have to
1:11:01
hide why what why are they hiding this information why can you find these
1:11:07
documents if if I was behind a mastermind like this and wanting uh
1:11:12
preparing such a long time since the uh the Soviet Afghani War to get to a
1:11:19
solution at the end I wouldn't want you to find this information certainly the internet has provided us with
1:11:26
information which we couldn't we could never have dreamt of knowing about it 5 years ago mean we'd have to go and spend
1:11:33
a lifetime in libraries and doing interviews and you know and and so on it
1:11:38
would be impossible to get all this information and to patch it together and and uh and I I
1:11:45
mean but then the I think the reason is that most people who go on the internet
1:11:51
don't do this kind of work they go and you know it's for entertainment or whatever okay and uh uh they don't scan
1:12:00
2,000 newspapers okay I can tell you I scan I scan 2,000 newspapers to get this
1:12:07
kind of information I and I use Lexus which is a very sophisticated search engine which which most probably your
1:12:14
University library has and I I suggest you use that because the internet itself won't give you everything but you can
1:12:21
find this information it's there uh the thing is that the official the official
1:12:29
statements and the media tell you everything you need to know as long as you can cross it with other information
1:12:35
and you can scan through it uh the the problem with the media is that they
1:12:40
provide information and then they refute the information that they provide okay
1:12:46
in the same way as Dan rathera says oh I'm here and the in in Rael pendy and oama was here on the 10th he was
1:12:53
hospitalized for kidney condition but Dan Rather doesn't say oh don don
1:12:59
ramsfeld you're a liar or he he could have said it politely it seems that this information
1:13:06
refutes the statements of the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld who says that
1:13:11
you we can't find him it's like looking for a needle in a stack of hay but he
1:13:16
would lose his job if he said that what I understand is how could a
1:13:24
house of representatives in the US how could the Senate you know all these different systems that were created uh
1:13:31
by uh by the civil services in US hundreds of years ago which were I I
1:13:37
believe that was based on true democracy back then uh how could all these how
1:13:43
could all they ignore uh such evidence I mean youve managed to find them out
1:13:48
they're government officials they they they they on both sides of the spectrum
1:13:54
people in the US Congress on both sides of the house know the information that
1:14:00
that that I presented to you here some of them don't dismiss it or they they
1:14:06
haven't analyzed it but certainly the people who sit on the Committees they know they know the people who sit on the
1:14:14
intelligence committee the armed services committee they know about this the thing is that we're not strictly
1:14:22
dealing um we're dealing with the criminal ization of the state where the
1:14:28
the people who who are part of the state system the legislature the presidency
1:14:33
the various agencies are complicit in this consensus they and they also uh are
1:14:40
complicit also supportive of of the seat
1:14:45
of power within within that uh you know that system so that they support their
1:14:52
president in the same way as we support the Canadian government uh however I think that this
1:15:02
situation is possible because the information does
1:15:08
not trickle down to the broader public in a way
1:15:13
which would significantly change their their point of view I mean people in in the United
1:15:20
States are are are maybe are are very uneducated 60% of the of the population in America
1:15:28
believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 911 okay even though uh
1:15:34
the Press said otherwise okay so the propaganda apparatus is so strong that
1:15:41
it drowns this kind of information but I tell you who who is responsible and who
1:15:46
is complicit it's the media and it it's it's the CBC as well it's the you know
1:15:53
it's R Canada uh I know I know that from my own personal experience
1:15:59
because I've been approached by journalists and journalists are very often are very honest people and they
1:16:06
say oh yes I'd like to do an interview and then at and then two hours before they call up and say it's been
1:16:13
cancelled uh George Bush uh has has insinuated because they said that they
1:16:19
found some evidence of weapons of nuclear weapons being developed by Iran Etc ET which is also big
1:16:27
fabrication uh that they're going to invade Iran they have plans they have
1:16:33
plans already ongoing to invade Iran okay now whether they will actually do it or not that's another matter uh and
1:16:41
they're not in a very good situation right now to start on to open another Another War theater okay they also have
1:16:49
plans to to invade North Korea okay now maybe that those plans are on on
1:16:57
standby I'm not I'm not trying to suggest that this war is is is inevitable otherwise I wouldn't be here
1:17:04
okay the war is is an is is something we can reverse the
1:17:09
tide but and the only way to reverse the tide is is to is to question the
1:17:16
legitimacy of the of the system which of the project which is Behind These War
1:17:24
these War uh preparations and that's not simply Bush okay it's not bush bush is a
1:17:31
figurehead it's much more it's much more fundamental it has to do with the the whole economic political structures of
1:17:38
this system it has to do with capitalism as as we know it and I'm not saying that
1:17:44
in an ideological sense but you know who is behind the bush Administration the
1:17:50
big defense contractors building nuclear weapons uh the the big Banks Wall Street
1:17:56
uh City Group uh you know uh the big far pharmaceutical companies uh or the big
1:18:03
uh AGR bus companies which are also involved in in destroying agriculture all over the world through genetically
1:18:10
modified seeds and so on it it's it's much broader than that but again uh and
1:18:16
when you start looking at the state system it's not simply the criminalization I mean it's not simply a
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set of individuals the naoms it's a much broadest complicity which includes the
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Democrats okay it certainly includes the Democrats and they they on you know
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they're on these committees together they share the they their buddy buddy with the Republicans uh and uh uh the 911
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Commission is a joint uh Parliament a joint uh I'm I'm talking about the joint
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inquiry it's Porter go and Bob Graham Bob Graham is a rep is a Democrat the
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other guy is is a Republican and and that they're involved in a coverup
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operation so uh it's the legitimacy of the entire system which is at stake and
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uh we can't we we cannot simply reverse the tide uh by unseating one or other of
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these rulers it but it's the first step no doubt to undermine a propaganda
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campaign you have to have you have to have a a strategy
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of of uh sens you have to sensitize inform educate the broader
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public on these issues in other words and that is not simply done uh it's it's
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a it's it's something which has to be done at the Grassroots it has to be it
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has to be done through networking it it's the kind of work which is similar to what what we do when
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we have an election campaign we go door too we set up committees in our in our
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in our workplaces in our churches uh at the parish level in neighborhoods in in
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uh you know if we belong to a to a trade Union we do it in the trade Union if we
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uh if we belong to a to an NGO we try to raise it and and and and discuss it at
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that level there are many municipalities In America which are bringing these issues to the municip Council for
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instance so what I'm saying is that those initiatives have to emerge and
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they have to emerge in a cohesive way uh we have to also beware of
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organizations which appear to be Progressive and anti-war but which ultimately
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demobilize a meaningful anti-war agenda okay I mean you saw Michael Moore's
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statement I mean with all due respects I I I thought I think he's a great guy but
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when he says that that Wesley Clark is his uh you know is his hero I I mean
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there's something really wrong there okay because he said oh yeah Bush you you're a liar okay your time is over you
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remember his speech at the Academy Awards but now he's backing Wesley Clark
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okay and lots of people in America who believe in the anti-war movement they think that the Democrats is an
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alternative it's not so it's the entire system which has to be thrown out and
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