Sen. Murphy: It’s a Lie that the Nuclear Capacity of Iran Was Obliterated; ‘They Knew They Were Lying When They Said It’

Wallace: “Senator, I’ve been following your sort of real-time commentary, but let’s just start unpacking Hegseth. There’s something disturbing about watching him perform with Donald Trump over his shoulder. We’ll just start by trying to ascertain the facts. He did seem to confirm the DIA assessment, though, there, didn’t he?”

MURPHY: “Well, they’ve all essentially confirmed the DIA assessment. And, listen, the one thing that he’s right about is that, you know, there is always going to be low confidence in assessing a strike in a foreign country designed to destroy something underground. We don’t have cameras underneath there. We don’t know exactly what we hit or what we didn’t hit. But the initial assessment of DIA, of the photographic evidence is that they did not fundamentally destroy those assets. And what we also know is that the Iranians were successful in moving a lot of the enriched uranium out of Fordow, and that maybe is the most important fact. If we didn’t destroy the 60 percent enriched uranium, they frankly don’t need that many centrifuges in order to continue to enrich up to nuclear grade. So, listen, they’re mad. They’re furious. You can see it in their voice because they got caught in a lie. They got caught in a lie. They went out there and said that they — that the nuclear capacity of Iran was obliterated, that we’d set back the program at least a year. They knew they were lying when they said it. They got caught in the lie. That’s super embarrassing. And they’re trying to cover up that lie with this righteous indignation, blaming everybody but themselves for the fact that they did the really unforgivable sin of national security communication. They fudged intelligence about our national security. You can’t do that because, as we have seen over and over again over the course of our history, that’s what gets us into unnecessary wars of choice. That’s what gets not dozens or hundreds of Americans killed, but thousands of Americans killed They’re angry because they caught lying this weekend.”