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Bipolaroid Sam Seder hawks fake #DOGE polls
Don’t believe creepy old man Sam Seder’s fake DOGE polls OR (alternate title) "
Why you should ignore any polls Sam Seder promotes."
Recently, the creepy old man Sam Seder began hawking garbage can polls (the same inaccurate polls we saw the last 3 POTUS races, stay tuned) to “prove” https://archive.is/qygiC https://rumble.com/v6mqr49-219-doge-plummets-in-polls-letter-carriers-reject-deal-w-elizabeth-pancotti.html that DOGE is unpopular w/ Americans & we should continue spending until the dollar collapses. Those dang Republicans (a few of them at least) want to cut federal spending, Leviathan is being starved (not really https://rumble.com/playlists/IIv11M6lVOE) & the economy is going to collapse if we don’t keep spending. This is all B.S.
Here are the polls you should look at & I am going to include multi-candidate polls as well, to be as fair as possible. If you want, you can look at polls that only include the two major parties & the disparity is still there. https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/harris-vs-trump-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west-vs-oliver Trump outperformed polls by 1.1% https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/pennsylvania/trump-vs-biden This poll was allegedly accurate, but only because of voter fraud. https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/pennsylvania/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein Trump outperformed polls by 2.6%. (Pennsylvania)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/georgia/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/georgia/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/georgia/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson Trump outperformed the polls in 2024 by 0.8%, in 2020 Biden supposedly won & we all know that’s B.S. In 2016, the polls had the margin of victory pegged pretty accurately (Georgia)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/harris-vs-trump-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west-vs-oliver https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/michigan/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/michigan/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein In 2024 they had the winner wrong & Trump outperformed the polls by 2.9%. In 2020 Trump outperformed by 1.4% & in 2016 Trump outperformed by 3.7% & they got the winner wrong. Why do we consistently see Trump getting lowballed more than his competitors? Either the pollsters are biased & something insidious is going on or they’re just incompetent clowns. (Michigan)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/harris-vs-trump-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west-vs-oliver https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/wisconsin/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/wisconsin/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein In 2024, they’re off by 2 points & got the winner wrong. In the rig job that was 2020, they lowballed Trump’s performance by 6% & in 2016 they were off by 7.2% (margin of victory, not % of support) & the polls had Hillary winning Badger land. The polls were garbage, period! (Wisconsin)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/north-carolina/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/north-carolina/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/north-carolina/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson Same situation here, how come they don’t have Trump winning by 5% & the margin of victory at 3% or lower? Either the pollsters are biased, they’re incompetent or Trump supporters don’t trust them and/or they’re too busy to take polls for morons. Which is it? This is part of the reason I thought Trump would win in 2024, he usually outperforms the polls. We’ve seen this movie before. (North Carolina)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/nevada/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/nevada/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/nevada/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson These results are not as skewed against the polls, although they missed the boat in 2024. 2020 they actually got right (but how many votes in NV were fraudulent?) & in 2016 we actually see an example of a predicted Trump victory & Hillary won. They were off by >3%. (Nevada)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/arizona/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/arizona/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/arizona/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein This data isn’t as inaccurate as what we’ve previously seen (Arizona)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/texas/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/texas/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/texas/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein In 2024 & 2016 they had Trump winning big (>7%) & he won by more than that. That’s much better than predicting a close race & getting the winner wrong. In 2020 the pollsters predicted a close race in Texas (this was probably why Brian Tyler Cohen was “predicting”, I mean copying this B.S. & saying Trump might lose Texas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9KfIV_ZcFo ) & it was not close.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/iowa/trump-vs-harris https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/iowa/trump-vs-biden https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/iowa/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein All the polls seriously underestimated Trump’s margin of victory & you might remember that infamous Des Moines Register poll right before the 2024 POTUS elections that had Kamala winning Iowa. I knew this was B.S., but it was a biased poll meant to depress turnout, period. Their previous polling was more accurate, https://rumble.com/v53k2kv-if-donald-trump-is-up-by-14-in-iowa-then....html but that was while Biden was still in the race & the Democrats, I mean the pollsters were hoping to make up that ground by November. (Iowa)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/florida/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/florida/trump-vs-bidenhttps://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/florida/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/florida/trump-vs-harris In 2016, the polls were pretty accurate, had Trump winning a close rate & that he did. In 2020, Biden was supposed to win a close one, but Trump won by >3%, Trump outperformed the polls by 4.2% overall. There weren’t many multi-candidate polls in 2024, but the one in August (so take it w/ a grain of salt) was off by more than 8%, another poll that lowballed Trump’s performance. The polls that only contained Harris & Trump underestimated the latter’s margin of victory by >5%. (Florida)
Now for the national polls for the past 3 POTUS elections https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/trump-vs-biden-vs-jorgensen-vs-hawkins https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-clinton-vs-johnson-vs-stein They really missed the boat in 2024, but this data was why I was sure Trump would win, even though national polls mean nothing. If the popular vote is predicted to be a dead-heat, then Kamala Harris has no chance.
Nate Silver https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/ https://archive.is/wPs4p made it clear that if Trump has a chance in the popular vote, that was bad news for Kamala Harris. Even Silver himself figured Kamala Harris would win the popular vote by 3% & that was off by a massive margin.
Silver https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ https://archive.ph/czLNT ate a lot of crow in the 2016 election predictions.
Even with the 2020 stolen election/rig-job (https://archive.ph/9qkHK https://archive.ph/bEh4q), Biden didn’t have a margin of victory anywhere near what the polls “predicted.”
In 2016, Hillary Clinton was supposed to win the popular vote by >3%, which is why morons like David Pakman (and his speech impediment), Rachel Mandow, I mean Rachel Maddow et al “predicted” https://rumble.com/v2od7j0-flashback-funniest-trump-cant-win-compilation-enjoy-the-show.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zerWCVpXTr8 https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/pollsters-see-hint-of-landslide-in-trump-fade-741265987873 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoqodvILHtM a “landslide” Hillary Clinton victory. Note to David “Miss” Packrat: Your “analysis” was not your analysis, you were dutifully copying talking points that were fed to you.
Nate Silver himself called out these garbage can polls https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/us-news/election-guru-nate-silver-accuses-pollsters-of-putting-finger-on-the-scale-lying-to-keep-presidential-race-close/ as the 2024 election neared, they were doing this to suppress Donald Trump’s turnout, not because there was a swell of support for Willie Brown’s mistress.
Matt Taibbi https://www.racket.news/p/how-americas-accurate-election-polls noticed this too, it was all hands on deck to run interference for Kamala Harris. They came out w/ totally fake polls, they edited interviews to make Kamala look better & they refused to ask her tough questions because she isn’t very bright. “But it’s no mystery. The polling problem in America looks like good-old-fashioned lying, mixed with dollops of censorship and manipulation.”
However, it didn’t work. That said even these troglodytes at Ring of Fire, the obese Feral “Kissing” Cousins, I mean Farron Cousins, the bipolar Sam Seder – even these pukes know the polls were inaccurate, fake, silly, useless, etc. https://web.archive.org/web/20241120015455/https://www.trofire.com/2024/11/17/popular-election-pollsters-fail-to-get-it-right-over-over/ That makes me wonder why they continue to vomit forth garbage can polls, are they that stupid or do they think everyone else is?
This idiot Seder was citing garbage can polls https://rumble.com/v5971r6-731-harris-tied-with-trump-in-swing-states-scotus-reform.html https://archive.is/HidKG shortly after Biden was thrown under the bus, Harris was never tied w/ Trump, think garbage in, garbage out.
These idiots are fine w/ admitting the polls were garbage, after everyone found out they’re garbage.
I noticed Ring of Fire is struggling & had to revamp their website, all their inaccurate articles they used to autistically post all day & night without fail have gone the way of the Dodo.
In closing, don’t believe any polls that Sam Seder is parroting, they’re likely garbage & pollsters are using that as a narrative. Nobody trusts the old guard media anymore anyways, which is why MSLSD & CNN are struggling mightily, https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-dominates-2024-viewership-topping-cnn-msnbc-combined-during-unprecedented-year-news it won’t be long before Newsmax overtakes CNN in ratings.
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