The Real Matrix: The 278th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1927368440811008138

Dr. Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99CQVaOK0E

Rob Roos forcing truth from Pfizer: https://x.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593

Heather on killing your pathogens: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/kill-your-pathogens

Forrest Maready on polio (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wYUnQUESU

Goldsborough et al 2025. Rise and spread of a social tradition of interspecies abduction. Current Biology 35(10): R375-R376: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)00372-0

Bret on transhumanism: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1927043640813138102

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Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:22 Welcome
00:06:37 Sponsors: Brain.fm, Pique, and Jolie
00:14:36 Kennedy Announcement
00:26:13 Immunity for Respiratory Viruses: Injecting in Your Arm vs. Inhalation
00:37:04 Why did they choose the wrong mode?
00:42:44 How to Kill Your Pathogens
00:50:28 Redefining "Vaccine"
00:55:57 Bret's Experience with Howler Monkeys and Botflies
00:58:40 Male Monkeys Behaving as Female
01:05:23 Bret's Hypothesis
01:13:45 Gestation is Not About You
01:17:26 Are Human Personalities Really Similar to Wild Non-Human Primates?
01:19:58 Transhumanists are Uploading Us to the Cloud
01:42:55 The Flaw in The Matrix
01:44:59 Closing