26th April 2025 Bucolic Living Law Unincorporated Business Discussion

Join us at NOON on Saturdays to have the hard conversations required to UNLEARN the corporatocracy training and RELEARN Natural Logical and Reasonable thinking of how to operate your business unencumbered.

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Niti Bali: Welcome. Everybody today is April 26, th and thank you for joining us for this Saturday's lunch and learn

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Niti Bali: we, you know, this is for our unincorporated business meeting. And so I'm going to go ahead and start with the Bevins Declaration. This meeting is private bearing false witness, misrepresentation and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden, and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner to eliminate all conflict and false allegations. Is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting

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Niti Bali: that is, a member or agent of any law, enforcement, agency.

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Niti Bali: or public agency of the Federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present. Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the 1st time.

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Niti Bali: This meeting is private bearing, false witness, misrepresentation and posting inflammatory rhetoric and public forums is forbidden and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner to eliminate all conflict and false allegations. Is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law, enforcement, agency, or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present? Is there a response to the Bivens decision? For the second time.

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Niti Bali: This meeting is private, bearing, false witness, misrepresentation, and posting. Inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden, and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner to eliminate all conflict and false allegations. Is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law, enforcement, agency, or public agency of the Federal, State, County City township agencies present. Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the 3rd time?

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Niti Bali: Anyone who is here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including Territorial, United States or municipal United States.

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Niti Bali: Anyone who is being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the premises. If they subsequently show up as Federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.

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Niti Bali: Are you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the Intelligence community?

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Niti Bali: Hearing no response to this notice of the Bivens decision, this meeting shall now proceed.

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Niti Bali: Welcome, everybody! Welcome! This meeting is for declared living men. The basis of our conversations revolve around the fact that

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Niti Bali: all man-made laws are created to control other men, and are, in fact.

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Niti Bali: sorry. I'm letting people in at the same time

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Niti Bali: are, in fact, the creation of man, and can therefore not stand over any living men.

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Niti Bali: However, in order to exercise this freedom, you must 1st release yourself from the unconscionable birth certificate bond which enslaved you at birth.

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Niti Bali: So this requires you to know who you are and know where you're from, and you will need

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Niti Bali: 2 living men as witnesses to attest to this fact.

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Niti Bali: then you must declare yourself alive and not dead, and then honor the golden rule.

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Niti Bali: The key to releasing yourself from this bondage is declaring your nationality.

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Niti Bali: It's simple.

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Niti Bali: Where you were born is where you are from, and it is your birthright. Nationality.

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Niti Bali: If you do not declare yourself alive, and you do, in fact, have a birth certificate which bonds you as a corporate dead fictional entity. You are considered to be a dead man, walking

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Niti Bali: a literal zombie, so welcome to the zombie apocalypse.

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Niti Bali: This charade is pure evil.

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Niti Bali: Here in this meeting we rebuke evil.

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Niti Bali: I would like to share an excerpt with you guys from the book. The end of all evil.

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Niti Bali: and afterwards we'll open the floor for real talk discussions about any business related topics you have on your mind this afternoon. Please refrain from making like blanket statements. And like, especially negative blanket statements, we're here for practical solutions that we can implement today. Okay?

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Niti Bali: So I'll just read read this excerpt there.

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Niti Bali: Once people are conditioned to accept the notion of authority they normally obey without thinking.

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Niti Bali: The object of law is obedience, and the destruction of freedom is found in the blindness of this obedience.

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Niti Bali: The authority principle shows that even when a person would normally believe an action to be wrong if ordered by an authority, they will still perform it.

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Niti Bali: The establishment and exercise of authority over people is called the pattern of tyranny.

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Niti Bali: It is easy to follow this pattern through history. Adolf Hitler created an enemy in the Jews. Early on German culture was manipulated, and Jews were condemned as dirty and greedy to people a people odd because they keep to their own kind. Soon the culture was in place where people were chastised for defending Jews.

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Niti Bali: People who demonized them were championed. Speech was then controlled. Next, Adolf Hitler made Jews into a full-fledged enemy.

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Niti Bali: The Jews became responsible for all social and economic ills. The solution was to put Adolf Hitler in power to yield German liberties to him, so that he could save them from the enemy. Make no mistake. Hitler was not after the Jews. He was after the Germans, an evil man. He was simply willing to sacrifice millions of Jews to obtain power. Do not make the mistake of thinking Hitler was a racist. Follow the pattern

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Niti Bali: in short order. He ruled the entire nation and forced all Germans to serve him and his army. His true ambition was not racism, but total world domination.

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Niti Bali: Socialism and Communism create the enemy of greed in the same pattern. By controlling speech. Profit becomes a dirty word, even though it only means that you have labored to create a better life.

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Niti Bali: Money becomes evil, even though it simply represents your work, which is obviously moral.

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Niti Bali: They create the enemy, but it is not greed they are after. It is you. If they can convince you that money and your labors are the enemy, then you will yield those labors and your money to them. Authority is not designed to destroy the enemy. It is designed to enslave you.

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Niti Bali: Democracies create the enemy of anarchy in the same pattern. By controlling speech it becomes immoral

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Niti Bali: to suggest that one could break the law. It does not matter which law or what it says. Nobility is placed on the payment of taxes, no matter how much they demand of you. It is the highest form of cultural propriety to obey the law, regardless of what it says.

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Niti Bali: The enemy is the fictional anarchy wherein no individual is safe, because everyone is a tyrant. In order to save you from anarchy, you yield authority to the law, you obey.

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Niti Bali: Evil is not after the destruction of anarchy. It is after you.

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Niti Bali: If you can see the tyranny in a culture that demands that you obey, no matter what is asked of you, and no matter who writes the laws, then you are beginning to understand the nature of evil.

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Niti Bali: Everything that is evil teaches you that you have limited worth.

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Niti Bali: The rule of law is the single, most dangerous idea ever inflicted upon mankind. It has gone by countless

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Niti Bali: names throughout the ages of history. In more basic tribes it's known as respect for elders

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Niti Bali: in the tyranny of royalty. It is known as nobility, birthright, and divinity. In Communism it is known as supremacy of state. In dictatorships. It's known as the antidote to anarchy.

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Niti Bali: In theocracies. It's known as revelation.

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Niti Bali: The net teaching of this idea is that you are to obey the law, not because of its merits or its morality. You are to obey only because it is the law. It is assumed that even if the law is wrong, then it is right to follow, because it supports the system, and the system is more important than you.

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Niti Bali: In order for an intelligent person to choose what is right, they must know who is asking obedience of them.

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Niti Bali: they must consider why it is being asked

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Niti Bali: and what it is they are being asked to do.

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Niti Bali: Only then can they decide for themselves. If it is right.

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Niti Bali: This is not what authority wants.

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Niti Bali: Authority is not concerned with you doing what is right. It is only concerned with obedience.

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Niti Bali: Culture teaches that the natural nature of law, and what it asks you to do are irrelevant. Culture teaches that obedience is propriety.

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Niti Bali: Culture teaches that when law is created it becomes morality.

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Niti Bali: Law is a weapon. It is used by evil to attack its prey, whether in the name of duty to king, loyalty to state or rule of law. Law is the weapon used to extort and control.

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Niti Bali: Culture upholds the nobility of law. Culture teaches that law is proper and good.

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Niti Bali: It never questions who wrote, the law.

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Niti Bali: Tyrant and brother are the same.

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Niti Bali: Culture never questions whether or not the law is right. You are to obey, no matter what it says. In this fashion. Law is a powerful weapon to be used against you. All principalities create volumes of laws that take lifetimes to understand, and armies of lawyers to manipulate. All of these things are weapons in the hands of the powerful, which they will use at their expense

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Niti Bali: at your expense. Sorry law holds value only to those who create it.

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Niti Bali: and only because your culture demands that you obey it.

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Niti Bali: The purest invitation to tyranny is your commitment to obey law, regardless of what it says

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Niti Bali: against you, the law becomes the perfect weapon. Whomever controls the law controls you, your worth is measured by the extent of your obedience.

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Niti Bali: Welcome.

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Niti Bali: Welcome, everybody. So

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Niti Bali: what do we want? We want relief right? Everybody who's here is here because you're interested in some form of relief, and that relief is going to require you to take responsibility for yourself, including the responsibility of knowing that you have allowed somebody

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Niti Bali: 2 control you?

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Niti Bali: You know, by impressing laws, religion, all this corporatocracy upon you.

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Niti Bali: So we like to meet here on Saturdays, because the more that we have these conversations, the more you have to

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Niti Bali: you know, think about. There's more practice in actually being able to rebuke evil.

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Niti Bali: And so.

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Niti Bali: you know, I I wanna hear what questions everyone has today. My only requirement for anybody here is you know, it's always nice for you to just open your camera. One moment, wave Hello, and that's

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Niti Bali: that's about it. And then, outside of that, you know, I'm not interested in your blanket statements or anything negative that you have to say. If you have a legitimate situation that you want to have answers for. Then bring your questions and let's have a conversation. We're going to have real talk here.

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Niti Bali: and you you should know that I'm not going to lie to you.

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Niti Bali: And so I'm not also going to allow you to remain immersed in your false beliefs.

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Niti Bali: and so hopefully that you know. Hopefully, you realize that I'm not here to offend you. But you might get offended because we're not going to entertain false beliefs.

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Niti Bali: So with that. Who's got? Who's got something they want to talk about?

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Niti Bali: Yes, Derek, how are you.

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Derek Barr: Good? How are y'all.

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Niti Bali: Great

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Derek Barr: So I had a question about.

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Derek Barr: I'm learning about trust and trust law, and being able to see the necessary, the necessaryness of that

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Derek Barr: with starting a business unincorporated

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Derek Barr: basically dissolve my Llc. Because I wasn't doing anything with it for a while, and

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Derek Barr: pretty much when I start from

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Derek Barr: the ground up again. I want to do this, you know, in a sense, by my rule,

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Derek Barr: something that's not a part of anything except for what I create.

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Derek Barr: and having that handed down to my legacy when I pass, and just making sure that everything is protected in such a manner that you know I'm not involved in any jurisdiction.

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Derek Barr: So I'm looking for my question, being trust

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Derek Barr: setting up trusts, and putting the unincorporated under it.

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Derek Barr: Is that a good thing to look into, I yield.

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Niti Bali: Okay, Derek, so you're asking about trust trusts. Are they necessary? Anna says, no.

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Niti Bali: you don't need a trust. You are, you know, what is a trust like she'll tell you to think about what does trust even mean, you know. Like you're you're a man of honor, Derek, remember.

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Niti Bali: So if you're honorable, and you're asking someone to trust you.

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Niti Bali: Look.

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Niti Bali: we've already we already have trust created when they created our birth certificate, bonds, and all these different every time they assign us something. It's a different kind of trust we don't need to have a trust to operate in. I'm not operating in any kind of trust with my business. I just operate in honor, and I maintain honor, and I expect honorable people to come and work with me, and I don't do business with people who.

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Niti Bali: you know, are interested in operating, in trust, trusting each other. We're trusting each other. Living men and women can trust each other.

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Niti Bali: Is there some other specific reason that you feel like you need to have a trust

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Niti Bali: like a lot of times? People will put things in a trust like meaning, like an entire family, will put a whole bunch of things together. But our estate can be established, you know, in writing in our Bible.

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Niti Bali: so do you have.

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Derek Barr: Essentially, it being that, and more of us like a private trust, something that's not a part of.

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Derek Barr: you know a corporation, or is under the guises of the laws that

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Derek Barr: you know, I'd I'd basically be creating a a declaration of charter, you know, kind of using all those synonymously. And

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Derek Barr: it's in the setup.

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Niti Bali: Kind of breaking up.

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Derek Barr: Let's.

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Niti Bali: Sorry. You're just.

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Derek Barr: Ever been.

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Niti Bali: Okay, I just want to make sure I can hear you properly.

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Niti Bali: What I'm hearing from you. You said something funny at the beginning. When you asked the question, you said, I don't want to operate in any jurisdiction.

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Niti Bali: That's funny. You're always in a million jurisdictions. You're always in overlapping jurisdictions.

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Niti Bali: So what exactly

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Niti Bali: are you trying to articulate? Because I know you're trying to ask something specific, and you just don't maybe know what what language it is that you want to use

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Niti Bali: to express.

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Derek Barr: More or less just having some sort of protection when a jurisdiction comes over into my jurisdiction trying to claim rights on

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Derek Barr: what I've.

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Niti Bali: Pretty much gathered to be able to nobody.

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Derek Barr: Family.

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Niti Bali: But there is no other jurisdiction, Derek. So here's the thing you're declared. As a living man you're alive, right?

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Niti Bali: And so the only only thing that could try to come stand over you is another living man.

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Niti Bali: and they can't, because they.

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Derek Barr: Or a corporation that acts in fraudulence.

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Niti Bali: Well, corporations are man-made entities, and no creation of man can stand over a living man period.

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Niti Bali: but it does, but it doesn't not sure, like the does not.

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Derek Barr: Idea is correct, and yes, but the physicalness

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Derek Barr: is there. People are getting their stuff

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Derek Barr: stolen from them all the time because of not declaring their

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Derek Barr: their properties and themselves and their progenies

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Derek Barr: what is to be operated on, and and honor is being dishonored. So the difference of what is actually should be happening versus what's

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Derek Barr: actually in the here and now physically happening.

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Derek Barr: So.

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Niti Bali: Well, most of the people that are being violated don't know who they are, and they don't know where they're from, and they don't know what jurisdiction they are in at any given moment.

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Derek Barr: Right.

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Niti Bali: Okay. Well, if you don't know who you are and you don't know where you're from, and you can't protect yourself. How are you going to do that by entangling yourself further with the corporatocracy.

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Derek Barr: You're not.

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Derek Barr: I don't register my, what I'm I'm talking about a trust that, or a charter, or something that I declare something that I've created

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Derek Barr: is trespassed on because it gets trespassed upon like my property. If someone were to come up and claim their jurisdiction over mine, it's like, okay. This is not how this is going to work. This is not yours. This is not under anything that you're claiming.

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Derek Barr: Here's my notice of, you know, because that interaction is there? I shouldn't have to provide anything but to

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Derek Barr: to give an honor to the situation like, Okay, you're

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Derek Barr: you're misinformed. You're acting in your job, but don't know.

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Derek Barr: These are the.

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Niti Bali: You don't need to put your land in a but you don't need to put your land in a trust. So 1st of all.

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Niti Bali: you. You need to.

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Niti Bali: You need to rename your land, you know

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Niti Bali: you need to rename it so.

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Niti Bali: And and you you need. Well, do you own the land.

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Niti Bali: you know there's so many questions right now like, do you own the land?

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Niti Bali: That you're talking about? Do you have your meets and bounds survey.

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Niti Bali: you know, there's certain processes that you have to do. But having a trust is not the solution for us living men and women.

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Niti Bali: It's it's more about knowing how to protect and defend what you have.

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Niti Bali: So I see that you know Tk's putting this stuff in here. You guys in the chat about trust services. Do whatever you want to do. You guys are self-governing. Okay, what I'm saying to you is, once we have declared, we don't have to do that, not for our basic personal private property.

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Niti Bali: That's what you want to protect, Derek. If you're talking about it in some other fashion, like, you know.

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Niti Bali: there's a shared interest in a business or something else. If you're operating in commerce in some other different way, then that's a different scenario altogether. But to have a trust for your personal land. That's that's not. You don't need to have a trust for that.

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Niti Bali: What you need to do is readdress it, separate it.

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Niti Bali: You need to record it. Okay, you need to record it properly, and you need to do that separately from the municipal government.

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Niti Bali: All that they have is this, you know easement in front of the road. That's it. They just have the road easement. You own the rest of it.

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Niti Bali: So what is your part of it. You need to get the meets and bounds survey, and you need to rename it.

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Niti Bali: And you need to record that.

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Niti Bali: so that whenever they're addressing you, you have something to say to them, you can notice them back. You can respond to them in a testimony in the form of an affidavit, and say that you're misaddressing me, and you're misaddressing my land.

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Niti Bali: and you name it the way that they are to let them know what they're misaddressing, and then name it the way you have, and you know, then they can see that it has been recorded over. Their registration does not stand over your record

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Niti Bali: period. Our records stand over their registration.

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Niti Bali: Does that help.

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Derek Barr: It does I?

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Derek Barr: I just know that how they act

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Niti Bali: Well.

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Derek Barr: Never all happened.

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Niti Bali: They've honored all of my stuff. I've been very successful with them, honoring all the things you have to follow properly, and you have to know what jurisdiction you're in, and you need to know how to

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Niti Bali: that'd be.

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Niti Bali: They don't understand English, and we don't speak gibberish period.

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Niti Bali: It all has to be in writing. If they're not going to put it in writing. If they're not going to speak to you in writing, they're not going to speak to you in writing about this, Derek, because then you'd have evidence of them breaking the law.

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Niti Bali: So it's never going to come to you in writing

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Niti Bali: and everything they do give you in writing, you can rebut it.

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Niti Bali: and when you bring me a piece of paper that we can talk about, then we can talk about it and rebut it.

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Niti Bali: But currently, I don't think you have that in front of you. So okay, deed.

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Niti Bali: Tk, Europe, how are you.

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TK: Hi, my camera on.

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TK: Can you hear?

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Niti Bali: There you are. Yeah.

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TK: Welcome.

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TK: Yeah. Hi, how you doing? Oh, yeah, I was just responding, are you aware that global family bank actually providing trust services.

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Niti Bali: Yes.

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TK: Really.

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Niti Bali: Right?

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Niti Bali: They are okay. But look global serving people all over the world. We're here on America, and there are certain things that we can do on the you know, on our state that may not be applicable everywhere.

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Niti Bali: That's number one, right? Number 2. Like, I'm not gonna try to speak on. You know something that's happening in South Africa or terror australis, or something like that, because everything's different.

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Niti Bali: But we have the Declaration of Independence that we stand under here.

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TK: Hey? You do.

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Niti Bali: Right. So it gives us a lot more power in that way. And that's something that people need to really comprehend.

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TK: Well, okay. Yeah.

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Niti Bali: Where are you located? Tk.

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TK: Chico maui, more commonly known in New Zealand.

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Niti Bali: So I don't know everything about New Zealand, and

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Niti Bali: I know that the folks at the Gfg. Will know if you actually need a trust, or if there's any way, they can help you around that

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Niti Bali: in your area, you know. But I don't know that. But they would know.

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TK: Yeah.

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Niti Bali: 100%.

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TK: Yep.

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Niti Bali: Do you.

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TK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Niti Bali: Alright. Thank you. Tk, Caleb, you're up.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Hi! There!

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Niti Bali: Hi.

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caleb rockenbaugh: How are you?

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Niti Bali: I'm great. I hope you are.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Well, thank you. I am good to see you all. I had a question about affidavits. I've been in a a number of situations where I've utilized affidavits for a number of reasons, including traffic type things, and in my experience I send them in.

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caleb rockenbaugh: and I may or may not get something back, and the stuff that I do get back is just

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caleb rockenbaugh: literally kind of retarded, as if they didn't even read the affidavit in another scenario. I haven't heard anything at all, and I actually called the courthouse, and they acknowledged that they had my affidavit.

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caleb rockenbaugh: But they hadn't ruled on the matter. So it's just kind of sitting there.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Far as I know. I have a warrant out for my arrest, so I

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caleb rockenbaugh: I'm not traveling through a particular state anytime. Soon.

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Niti Bali: Well may I ask if you're declared?

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Niti Bali: Yes.

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TK: What's your nationality?

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caleb rockenbaugh: I'm on Ohio.

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Niti Bali: Ohioan. Okay? Well, so

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Niti Bali: 1st of all, I think that it's fascinating. There, you know, when we address the de facto.

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Niti Bali: they're never gonna be like. Oh, welcome, welcome, Caleb, you know, like.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yeah, I got you.

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Niti Bali: You know. Hey, friend, like cool.

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Niti Bali: they're not going to do that. So what they're going to do is constantly solicit you, and pressure you, and impress upon you

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Niti Bali: how much you must do what they say.

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Niti Bali: no matter what, till the very end. But you have to know exactly what it is that you are presenting them with and know how to enforce it. A. Did you give them just an affidavit? Because, declared living men don't do that. We do testimonies in the form of an affidavit? Did you do a testimony in the form of an affidavit, because we can only testify

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Niti Bali: because we speak English, or did you actually send them an affidavit.

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caleb rockenbaugh: I did send them an affidavit.

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Niti Bali: Okay? So that crossed the veil.

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Niti Bali: You are operating in law merchant.

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Niti Bali: which is their jurisdiction number one. But of course we stand over their jurisdiction. It's not that you can't operate in their jurisdiction, you can.

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Niti Bali: but if you do, you're 1st of all denigrating yourself

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Niti Bali: and lowering your status, so let me ask you a question.

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Niti Bali: If you're a king, which you are.

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caleb rockenbaugh: I am.

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Niti Bali: And you walk into an establishment.

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Niti Bali: Would you be asking permission for somebody to honor you with the Golden Rule?

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caleb rockenbaugh: No, I expect it.

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Niti Bali: Okay. So what you did was you lowered yourself

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Niti Bali: to, you know this peasant or something.

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Niti Bali: You see what I'm saying now you're operating.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Is it just a matter of calling it a testimony? Or how does that differ.

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Niti Bali: It is. It's it's it's it is. It's important for you to stay at the top.

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Niti Bali: you know. Testimony in the form of an affidavit number one.

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Niti Bali: then notice to agents is notice to principals.

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Niti Bali: That's the next next thing you want to make sure to say, and then you need to say who I am and who I am not.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yup, got that.

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Niti Bali: So I'm just.

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caleb rockenbaugh: I'm just missing the testimony. So that's cool.

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Niti Bali: Yeah, you gotta make it plain for them. And then you need to back it up

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Niti Bali: with your 1779 and your fee schedule.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yes. Yeah.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Schedule. I I.

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Niti Bali: Did you notice the Secretary of State

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Niti Bali: when you okay? So here's something. Let me start with step one step one.

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Niti Bali: We declare that we're alive, hey? I'm alive, right? We got our 2 witnesses that are testifying with us that they're saying, Yeah, this is this is actually niethy. Right?

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Niti Bali: So that happens, and then behind that

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Niti Bali: you have to tell the Secretary of State.

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Niti Bali: Hey?

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caleb rockenbaugh: I did do it in one instance.

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Niti Bali: Okay, if you only sent them the hey? I just want you to know that I have declared my political status. And here is my 1779, I will tell you that is really not as powerful as

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Niti Bali: sending them a testimony in the form of an affidavit.

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Niti Bali: Say who you are and who you're not. I. I highly recommend that you pull Anna's articles

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Niti Bali: 4, declared Americans. Only 1, 2, and 3. Do you remember those 3 articles.

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caleb rockenbaugh: I don't think I've seen them, but I can find them, though.

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Niti Bali: Okay, look up 4, declared Americans. Only one.

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Niti Bali: 4! Declared Americans. Only 2, 4! Declared Americans. Only 3. I think the 1st one might not say one. It might just say 4, declared Americans. Only, anyway, pull those 3. Okay.

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Niti Bali: she's handed you the testimony in the form of an affidavit that you should need. And if you comprehend anything about law and the language of law, then you can convert that into your affidavit. Okay.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Okay.

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Niti Bali: And you make it into your testimony in the form of an affidavit applicable to your specific whatever that situation was. Okay.

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Niti Bali: And it's not too late for you to do it, but I will tell you this when you send them your testimony in the form of an affidavit. Make sure that you

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Niti Bali: you know I mean, I would use postal power. I use postal power on everything I send them, because when you put your postmaster, you know when you you put a 2 cent stamp at the top left hand corner of the 1st page, and you put it at the bottom right hand corner of the last page, and you cancel it with your byline in red ink. Okay.

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Niti Bali: oracle.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Looking on the doc on the documents themselves.

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caleb rockenbaugh: So I put a 2 cent stamp.

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Niti Bali: And then you cancel it.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Just with the red mark across it.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Oh, boy!

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Niti Bali: You autograph it by Caleb, whatever Rockenborough rock and ball, right copyright symbol.

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Niti Bali: Do you know how to autograph your byline properly because a lot of people just don't.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Well, I I know the buy, and I usually use with without recourse and without prejudice, and then I.

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Niti Bali: Copyright it right? No, no, no, I just mean your autograph. Your autograph should always be by

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Niti Bali: curse if you ever did.

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caleb rockenbaugh: So my! My signature. Look.

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Niti Bali: More like a bunch of.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Herbals.

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Niti Bali: So then you're incompet. Then you're incompetent.

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Niti Bali: I mean, you really need to script it out properly.

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Derek Barr: Doctors right like that.

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Niti Bali: Yeah, the doctors write like that because they're full of shit. Right? You know. Pardon my French, but like you have to operate with competence.

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Niti Bali: competency, right? You. You know how to read and write, so make sure they know that.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Okay. Well, here, here's a here's another one that I'm dealing with. I've it's going on 2 years now I've been working through this I was

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caleb rockenbaugh: I had received an offer working as a contractor for the Department of Energy, and they came back, and they had me marked down as a Us. Citizen.

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caleb rockenbaugh: I, I replied to the email. I was like, Oh, by the way, I you know I'm not a Us. Citizen. I'm an American State National.

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caleb rockenbaugh: and I described it.

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caleb rockenbaugh: and then the next thing I knew that they declined my employment with the DOE. So I'm actually in a discrimination lawsuit.

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caleb rockenbaugh: To the administrative judge. Should I include in there, like I have the affidavits that I sent. But should I include a testimony

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caleb rockenbaugh: within that documentation.

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Niti Bali: I mean, I think the 1st thing that you want to really think about here is

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Niti Bali: when we're operating in business, and you're trying to do business with somebody like they can choose who they want to do business with or not. Right

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Niti Bali: like I'm running my business. Don't tell me how to run my business

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Niti Bali: like I don't care, you know, whatever it is that you want, I don't care. I have a responsibility to do the things I need to do. I only know how to do it this way, and I'm not going to learn your way because I'm doing this.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Well that we'll follow.

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Niti Bali: I mean, just hear what I'm saying right.

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Niti Bali: I just want you to hear this piece out like you can fight with whoever this is.

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Niti Bali: But I mean to what end?

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Niti Bali: What? What's going to happen in the end of this.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Well, hopefully, I get some compensation for losing a well paying job.

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Niti Bali: Right. And you're gonna you're gonna be right. But why listen to what I'm saying. I love you so much. I just want you to put your inner listen. I've asked all men to come forward, and I'm asking you guys to stand up for what's right and do the right thing. And you also need to be able to support yourselves and your families.

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Niti Bali: You have to be able to earn.

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Niti Bali: especially till our banks are up. Right. I'm not sitting over here trying to sell you some like airy fairy.

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Niti Bali: you know. Daydream over here we got. We have mouths to feed. We got things to do so

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Niti Bali: in reality. Right now, you're operating in a dual system.

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Niti Bali: It's actually a multifaceted system with multiple jurisdictions.

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Niti Bali: And we're having to work with all of these people and all of their false beliefs, and they don't know the truth.

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Niti Bali: Okay, so if you want to stand around and fight with them, I think that's fine. I mean, you're a grown man. I'll tell men to what to do, but in my experience I don't have the energy to fight with somebody about anything, because there's too much going on. I gotta go. I got to go make some money from wherever I'm gonna go, get my money. It's not gonna be here dealing with you, and I would caution you when you're working with folks. You know

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Niti Bali: all of these things American, state, national, you know, sovereign whatever all of these things to them sound like, you know. Oh, this guy, all these problems like, I don't need that right.

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Niti Bali: All you have to do is say I'm an Ohioan.

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Niti Bali: That is your nationality.

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Niti Bali: And just you know you just need to say, listen,

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Niti Bali: I mean, I encourage everybody. Number one. Make sure you have a passport. I don't care how many stars it is. Just get one, because if you have a passport, it is evidence of the fact that this is your home.

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Niti Bali: okay, and that you are an Ohioan.

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Niti Bali: and you can establish your nationality because our actual passports, the passport book is for Americans.

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Niti Bali: So number one, have a passport. Okay?

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yeah.

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Niti Bali: Number 2. You just emphasize to them. I'm an Ohioan, and I'm not a Us. Citizen. I'm actually a native to Ohio.

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Niti Bali: and so, therefore, you know, I actually have to let you know that I have a different nationality. Do you need my passport

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Niti Bali: and just ask them, you know, export.

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Niti Bali: Okay.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Probably would have been easier.

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Niti Bali: Right. Listen! You have to take the path of least resistance with these people who don't know how to do anything they're just like, oh, my God! It's some illegal alien. No, here's my passport calm down right.

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Niti Bali: I am a native of Ohio. I was born there.

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Niti Bali: I'm an Ohioan. Oh, so you're you're a Us. Citizen. No, I'm not. I don't serve in the government.

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Niti Bali: I am a native here on America, and I'm not a government employee.

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Niti Bali: and that's all. And then you just really just make it easy.

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caleb rockenbaugh: That's.

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Niti Bali: There's no reason to be fighting with these people about this, you know, but when they say that, say, Look, you're trying to perjure me.

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Niti Bali: or you're asking me to suborn myself by saying that I'm a u. Dot S. Dot citizen when I'm not. I'm a native American.

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Niti Bali: may I?

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Niti Bali: And they're gonna hang on, Michael. They're gonna try to be like, oh, you're an Indian native American, you know. No, I'm native to America. I was born here on north, on Ohio, on, you know, wherever you're from.

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Niti Bali: and and they can't. What are they going to do? How can they argue with you? And especially when you're showing them your passport.

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caleb rockenbaugh: I got you.

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Niti Bali: It's the one credential all working men need, I think.

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Niti Bali: just because it is the one thing I don't care if it has 0 stars or 5 stars. Nobody cares. Get a book. Make sure it's the passport book, so that you can autograph in it properly, you know, and put your thumb seal in there and everything. And that's what matters. All right. It matters how you autograph the book.

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Niti Bali: so just it's my encouragement for you.

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Niti Bali: Look, you gotta love them where they're at for their foolishness, they know not what they do. Okay, Caleb.

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Niti Bali: and move on to something. Better.

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Niti Bali: Get a better solution

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Niti Bali: and make sure you operate as a native. You know. American. You're a native of America. You're a native on Ohio.

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Niti Bali: right.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Perfect. Yeah, and I'm sorry to take up so much time, but just to follow up.

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Niti Bali: Don't, don't apologize, apologize. We're here for you and everybody's learning. Go ahead.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Okay, I just thought I'd be quicker.

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Niti Bali: It's it's fine.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Well, I'm I'm it's actually taken me about a year to get another job opportunity. And so I've been thinking about it. Should I go through the trouble of doing the W. 8 BEN, and all of that.

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Niti Bali: You don't have to, I mean, are they? Are they just giving you A. W. 4.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Well, they haven't yet, but I assume they'll be like, fill out this paperwork, and I've been. I've I've only been doing this for about 4 years now, so I'm still learning

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Niti Bali: Well, 1st of all, if you can be 1099, it's the easiest thing.

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Niti Bali: because because they know how to do it.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Right.

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Niti Bali: You. You're you are releasing them from any responsibility and liability, from anything. And.

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caleb rockenbaugh: And I. I offered that to him, but I just haven't heard back, and so we'll see.

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Niti Bali: Okay? Well, if they will allow you to work under 1099, you know, that's really the best.

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caleb rockenbaugh: My preference. Yeah.

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Niti Bali: Yeah, that's the best thing. I always say, Hey, cash under the table, whatever is easier for you. I always say that to whoever you know, and if they want it to be A. W. 4, then we can teach you how to exempt yourself out of that, because you can.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Okay, so don't don't mess with the W. 8 BEN. Then.

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Niti Bali: I think every time we fill out the contracting.

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Niti Bali: and the less that you do the better.

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Niti Bali: Yeah.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yeah, I got you, yeah.

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Niti Bali: Okay, Michael Mussbach, did you have something you want to contribute on this topic?

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Right for all of us that have been born on our State. That is our nationality. For example, I was born on New York. My nationality is a New Yorker. But what about for those who have transferred to another State and naturalized there? So, for my instance, if I got pulled over by an officer, and I followed through what you had described to us 5 min ago. Would I say I am a

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I would. Am IA national.

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Niti Bali: You're still a New Yorker, because that's where you were born. You have to know where you're from. I mean, you've naturalized here just like I did.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: So you're North Carolinian.

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Niti Bali: No, you say, your your nationality is New Yorker.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Okay.

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Niti Bali: Yeah, you've naturalized to become a North Carolinian.

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Niti Bali: you know, and you're here. But but we were born New Yorkers.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Okay.

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Niti Bali: Okay. My husband is an Indian he was born in on.

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Niti Bali: but he's naturalized here. So now he's a North Carolinian.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Okay. So if I got pulled over and showed my passport, and I say, I'm a i'm a.

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Niti Bali: Say all that. Why are you talking so much like the 1st thing you should say is, what is the emergency officer.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: True.

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Niti Bali: What's the emergency? Oh, there's not an emergency. Are you okay? Do you need help? Do you need help from me?

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Niti Bali: Are you okay? Oh, you're not okay. What's going on?

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Niti Bali: You know that less is more.

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Niti Bali: We reserve the right to be silent.

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Niti Bali: you know, like there's don't don't talk when you don't need to talk, but.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: That's the 5th Amendment, isn't it?

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Niti Bali: I mean also it is.

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Niti Bali: We operate in merchant law because we are on the land and soil. They operate in law merchant, which is the reflection of the land and soil in the water jurisdiction.

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Niti Bali: So 1st of all, they don't have any standing over us none.

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Niti Bali: They're in the wrong jurisdiction. Why is a water jurisdiction? Somebody trying to talk to me? I'm on the land and soil

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Niti Bali: like stop talking to me.

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Niti Bali: So we just want to make sure they're safe, that there's not an emergency.

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Niti Bali: If there isn't an emergency, am I free to go.

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Niti Bali: you know, and they can say which is mostly like, you know, you've been speeding, and then they'll just give you some kind of piece of paper. And you just say, Okay.

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Niti Bali: have a great day. I mean your entire goal is to just leave.

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Niti Bali: Okay. You don't need to have too much of a conversation with these people.

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Niti Bali: and they can't really comprehend what you're saying, anyway. So just be kind. Is there an emergency? There's not

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Niti Bali: because they will know who in the world you are after. They give you a piece of paper, and you serve them with a testimony in the form of an affidavit.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: Yep, that's it.

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Niti Bali: And then I guarantee that you give them one and maybe 2, and maybe 3, because they start coming after you because they're like, who is that? You know? And then they will never talk to you again.

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Niti Bali: So it actually works that way. That's been our experience for multiple people. But you have to know who you are, and you have to know where you're from. There's other people who are former military. I bet Robert Blakely has some stories. There's plenty of folks I know, who, especially former military. They comprehend jurisdiction very well.

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Niti Bali: and they can easily let you know that you are outside of your scope.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: So what if you're traveling interstate.

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Niti Bali: Okay, but wait a second, Michael. We were. We were just I wanna

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Niti Bali: finished Caleb's conversation. So, Caleb, are we? Did we answer your topic.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yeah. And just since you were talking, I was gonna ask, is it effective to

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caleb rockenbaugh: reserve your rights under Ucc one-three O, 8. Why would you put.

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Niti Bali: Yourself under Ucc. When you are a declared American in a game.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Okay.

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Niti Bali: You are a king.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Yeah. Well, this king got thrown in jail for 6 h. So

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Niti Bali: Okay. Well.

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caleb rockenbaugh: But I didn't ask if there was an emergency, though.

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Niti Bali: Listen, King.

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Niti Bali: Okay, all of our kings need training

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Niti Bali: because you haven't been a king for that long.

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Niti Bali: You don't.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Really know.

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Niti Bali: How to be one. Right? You're just a liquid love being who's just out there, you know, innocently

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Niti Bali: operating in love. You're not trying to cause any problems. And they're just constantly telling you you're a bad guy.

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Niti Bali: Do you see what I'm saying?

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caleb rockenbaugh: I gotcha.

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Niti Bali: You're a good guy, then just be a damn good guy and stop being a bad guy, right?

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Niti Bali: And so it's like.

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caleb rockenbaugh: All I did was I. All I did was swerved on the road after 9 and a half hour drive, so they.

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Niti Bali: Right. Well, I'm sorry. Are you okay? Did I cause any harm? Oh, my God! Did I hurt anybody? Oh, praise the Lord.

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caleb rockenbaugh: Remember that next time.

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Niti Bali: Yeah, your your entire move is. Oh, my goodness, is there an emergency? Did I harm someone? Did I hurt somebody? What happened? You know I'm so sorry. Did I miss something?

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Niti Bali: Is there an after party?

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Niti Bali: They'll they'll say, Oh, my gosh, you swerved, or something you could just say, oh, yeah, I'm so dumb like I dropped this thing and I was trying to pick it up. Or, oh, I've been driving so long, and my leg had a cramp in it, and I was just trying to get it out, or I don't know, you know, like, just be honest about it, and just say, oh, my gosh! I'm just a living man, you know, doing living man things I just messed up. I'm so sorry and hopefully I haven't heard anybody. I've caused no harm. Right? Okay, cool. Great. Thank you. So much for caring about me.

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Niti Bali: I'm okay. I got it. I'll be better, you know.

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caleb rockenbaugh: See you later. Yeah.

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Niti Bali: Yeah.

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caleb rockenbaugh: That's perfect. Thank you, Nitty. I'll I'll I'll

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caleb rockenbaugh: yield here. Thank you so much.

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Niti Bali: Thank you. Caleb.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: May I ask one more question?

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Niti Bali: Okay. Okay. Real. Quick.

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Niti Bali: Karen's turn.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: I'm sorry, all right.

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Mike Maasbach© North Carolina: What if traveling interstate like going from North Carolina to Florida? Do you? Do you notice the other states that you're traveling through their states or counties.

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Niti Bali: No. But then 99% of those people are really not trying to pull me over. Most folks don't want to pull people over outside as like they don't want to pull people from out of state unless there's a real reason like something is going on. And so it's not like they're really trying to do that. But if they're watching you do something, or you got super cop over there, or whatever you know, once again.

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Niti Bali: is there an emergency officer cause they gonna know who you are after you leave.

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Niti Bali: It's fine.

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Niti Bali: because the thing that's weird about these de facto people. It's not like. They're honorable, like the sheriffs were back in the day, you know, when you would cross jurisdictions, you would go find the person in charge, the man in charge. Who's the law around here? That's what they would do. They cross the line and be like, who's the law in these parts?

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