Douglas Murray Humiliates Himself In A Epic Meltdown

Douglas Murray Humiliates Himself In A Epic Meltdown

April 23, 2025

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“The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.” ~H.L. Mencken

Dave Smith is a comedian with his own podcast that contains a lot of varied political and cultural topics. Douglas Murray, is a British neoconservative political commentator, cultural critic, who is known for his support of U.S. and NATO invasion of countries around the world, and also Israel's genocide in Gaza. Their discussion has become somewhat emblematic of a tension between supporting free speech and the problems that come with our new technologies.

Watching Dave Smith and Douglas Murray on Joe Rogan’s podcast. Murray dismissed Smith, Rogan, and other podcasters for discussing history and current events without what he called, “experts.” Which experts? Why, the ones that Murray deems credible! As the author of Neoconservatism: Why We Need It, he thinks that the only ones qualified to speak on foreign policy are the ones who agree that rich European controlled countries have a duty to wage war for the sake of spreading "democracy."

Murray didn’t really point out what Smith gets wrong in his anti-war, libertarian view of the history of US military entanglements. He only resorted to logical fallacies like attacking strawmen, appealing to “experts,” and ad hominem. Rogan and Smith repeatedly pointed out these flaws in Murray’s arguments, trying to get at what Murray actually finds inaccurate or incomplete in Smith’s arguments (all of which were backed up by evidence and sound reasoning). But these attempts failed as Murray cyclically wriggled in and out by constructing and reconstructing strawmen and moving the goalposts.

One of the best examples of this is when Dave Smith brought up the Israeli blockades of Gaza, citing World Bank data indicating it resulted in a 40% drop in Gaza’s GDP. His point was that such actions exacerbated the poverty and desperation in the region, playing an important role in fomenting the disastrous conflict that continues today. His larger point was that there is shared responsibility for the current conflict.

Instead of addressing the substance of Smith’s point, Murray responded by making fun of the fact that a libertarian would cite the World Bank and by dismissing Smith’s entire argument because Smith hasn’t physically witnessed the crossing points into Gaza.

Instead of participating in a good faith debate over the arguments for and against particular wars, the state’s intellectuals quash the idea of a debate. If they do find themselves in one, they dismiss the other side for not being one of the officially recognized experts on the matter.

Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss Douglas Murray's, pro-military invasion position, and his support of Israel's atrocities.

https://mises.org/power-market/dave-smith-vs-douglas-murray-and-states-intellectuals

Kurt Metzger on Twitter: https://x.com/kurtmetzger
Kurt's website: http://www.KurtMetzgerComedy.com

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