The Gracious Two - LIVE Show 089 - Flat Earth Dave

The Gracious Two, Chad Gracey and John Rotolo discuss the perceived hypocrisy of the Democratic Party, specifically their support for illegal immigrants and their opposition to President Trump. It highlights the actions of Democratic politicians, such as their efforts to bring back an MS-13 member and their defense of radical policies. The conversation also touches on the COVID-19 pandemic, suggesting that it originated from a lab funded by Dr. Fauci, who has since been pardoned by former President Biden.

The podcast then discusses the alleged conspiracy surrounding the origin of COVID-19, suggesting it may have been leaked from a China lab to divert blame from the US. It also touches on the controversial figure of Dr. Fauci. The discussion then shifts to a weight loss product called AYDS, highlighting the timing of its release coinciding with the AIDS epidemic.

A flat Earth believer, Flat Earth Dave, argues that the Earth’s curvature is an illusion caused by perspective, and that evidence such as pilot accounts and sniper calculations are flawed. He dismisses claims of Coriolis effect and argue that all space agencies are controlled by NASA, using the space race as a facade for depopulation. Flat Earth Dave also questions the authenticity of Katy Perry’s space photos, suggesting they are part of a larger ritualistic agenda.

The conversation discusses the plausibility of space travel, specifically the Blue Origin spaceflight. Dave questions the authenticity of the footage, pointing out inconsistencies such as the lack of a smoke trail and the seemingly impossible landing. The discussion then shifts to the shape of the Earth, with the speaker presenting arguments for a flat Earth model, including the need for containment of large bodies of water and the elevation of Antarctica.

Dave argues that the Earth is flat, using examples of visible lights and objects at great distances, which they claim should be obscured by curvature. They propose that refraction is the only explanation for these observations, but find it implausible that light would refract perfectly to align with the horizon. Flat Earth Dave also questions the existence of Antarctica as a continent, suggesting it might be a wall or barrier preventing exploration beyond a certain point, and references historical maps and theories about additional landmasses beyond Antarctica.

A discussion about the shape of the Earth and the existence of Antarctica ensues. Dave presents supposed evidence suggesting Antarctica is a wall of ice, while the other JRo believes it is a continent. The conversation also touches on the use of drones, the accuracy of Google Earth, and the nature of gravity.

A discussion about Starlink and its functionality ensued. Dave questioned the practicality of Starlink, particularly its use on airplanes, arguing that it involves unnecessary signal transmission to and from satellites. Dave suggested that airplanes could directly connect to the internet without the need for satellites.

A discussion about the existence of Starlink satellites and the feasibility of seeing them at 350 miles up is presented. The conversation then shifts to the concept of gravity, with one person arguing that the Earth’s motion and speed should cause water to be pulled towards the center, while another believes in the existence of gravity.

Dave argues that the Earth’s rotation and gravity are incompatible, using centrifugal force and electrostatics as evidence. He demonstrates the power of electrostatics using balloons and a Van de Graaff generator, claiming it is 10^36 times stronger than gravity. Dave questions the existence of gravity and the heliocentric model, highlighting the vastness of space and the impossibility of seeing distant objects.

The conversation explores the impossibility of seeing distant stars like Polaris and Sirius with the naked eye, given their immense distances and the inverse square law of light. It also questions the heliocentric model, challenging how light from distant planets like Jupiter can be so bright and how the moon, supposedly reflecting sunlight, can have a dark side. The discussion further delves into the sun’s movement across the sky, its relationship to the tropics, and its impact on seasons.

Flat Earth Dave argues that the Earth is flat, citing evidence such as the inability to see curvature from airplanes and the existence of an impenetrable barrier at the Earth’s core. They question the existence of gravity and the spherical shape of other celestial bodies, suggesting that our perception of them as spheres is a result of our eyes’ limitations. The proponent also presents images of stars and nebulae, challenging the mainstream explanation of their formation and nature.

A discussion about the authenticity of NASA’s space footage and the existence of the space station is presented. JRo questions the plausibility of certain images and videos, suggesting they may be fake or manipulated. Dave highlights inconsistencies in lighting and shadows in some of the footage.

Flat Earth Dave argues that the moon’s light source and the Earth’s shape are inconsistent with scientific explanations. He believe the Earth is flat to control the population and hide resources. He also claims that the globe model is a lie perpetuated by NASA and other organizations to control people’s thoughts and emotions.

Dave argues that the Earth’s flatness is evident in various phenomena, such as the inability to see Mount Everest from everywhere and the consistent position of Polaris. He dismisses the idea of Earth’s curvature affecting snipers, rail guns, and sonar, asserting that these technologies would be hindered by mountains. Dave also questions the need for planes to cross the equator when traveling between airports in the Northern Hemisphere.

The conversation discusses the plausibility of air travel routes, particularly those that do not cross the equator. It highlights examples of flights that deviate from the shortest distance, such as those from New Zealand to Argentina, which take a longer route over the United States. The discussion also touches on emergency landings and the calculations pilots make for descent, suggesting that these scenarios are often used to cover up the flat Earth theory.

Dave argues that the Earth is flat, using the position of stars and the analemma as evidence. He believes the sun is within the firmament, possibly projected, and that the Earth is intelligently designed. Dave challenges round globe believers to take an app challenge and win 3 Bitcoins if they can prove the Earth is a globe.

Dave encouraged the audience to question the mainstream narrative and explore alternative perspectives. The Gracious Two discussed the interview, acknowledging Dave’s conviction while expressing their own skepticism about the flat Earth theory.

The show was active with many comments. They will have an Instagram show this week and a show with Jason Pierce from Our Lady Peace on Friday.

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