MAGA’s End-Times Fascism; RFK Jr’s War On Public Health w/ Naomi Klein, MarkAlain Déry

Emma is joined by writer, activist and professor Naomi Klein about her new essay The rise of end times fascism. Read it here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/apr/13/end-times-fascism-far-right-trump-musk

After that, infectious disease doctor MarkAlain Déry is here in studio to discuss the challenges facing public health under the Trump regime, especially from Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Jr.

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